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Title: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: core on October 10, 2010, 11:10:39 PM
Greetings all,

   This thread will be based on the following website:

http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/powerconverter.html

 This device deserves further investigation.

 After viewing the information on the site you will also come to the conclusion that the author, despite referring to himself as ignorant, I don't know why, has a well rounded theory.

    Already on the website, that is dated from year 2000, is a wiring diagram and a theory of operation. The wiring diagram will be posted here. So in truth a large portion of the work is done. This thread will deal with attempting to build a 'working prototype of his device. He has two devices, an 'Electric field Transformer' and a 'Virtual Photon power converter'.

   This thread will deal with the 'Virtual photon power converter' that can also be called 'Aether power converter'. I ask all that are interested to please join in experimenting. I believe at the end of the day that the 'Virtual Photon power converter' is very similar to Tariel kapanadze device. and his 'Electric field transformer' is similar to SR193 device. Regardless both devices are strikingly simple.
   
   Here is all the data, if you give it a go please post pictures of your set-up and what modifications to the original wiring diagram you have made.

Respectfully,

Core




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The Data:

 ****** Summary ******

 Physics, in the field of quantum electrodynamics, hypothesizes the existence of virtual photons.  These are potential photons with an infinite amount of potential energy.  This virtual photon explanation is used to explain the amount of physical force that can occur for a relatively small amount of electrical work with Coulomb’s Law.
    This device is an attempt to convert the infinite power potential of a virtual photon into an actual electromagnetic power drive circuit – electrical energy.  The idea is an attempt to amplify electrical power through the use of a VPR (Virtual Photon Reference).

    The electrical approach is relatively simple.  A single circuit that provides both current and voltage energizes almost all electrical devices; voltage and current sources come from the same power supply.  This device has two separate power supply circuits; one provides the current, while the other provides the voltage.  Assuming AC is put in, one power supply provides the current – is the magnetic field driver – while the other circuit provides the voltage – is the electric field driver.  The phase between these two separate AC power supplies is adjustable.
    The device mixes a high voltage induced electric field with a high current induced magnetic field into a primary of a transformer and on a plate of a capacitor.  The device has two circuits mixing in a single transformer, one a current circuit – magnetic field related -- while the other is a voltage circuit – electric field related.  The voltage is induced into the coil through capacitance and this help keeps the circuits’ currents of the two power supplies isolated.
    The idea is for secondary of the transformer magnetically and electrically sees a high voltage and high current transformer primary winding – a high VA primary.  This lower voltage high current secondary feeds a power load (whatever that may be) according to the VA it ‘sees’.

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****** Major Components ******

Major Components
T1     VOLTAGE/ELECTRIC – DRIVE TRANSFORMER (for very high voltage applications this may be a Tesla wound coil)
T2     CURRENT/MAGNETIC -- DRIVE TRANSFORMER (shown as a 1:1 isolation transformer)
T3     MIXING TRANSFORMER (shown as a step down power transformer)
T4     CONVERTER TRANSFORMER (shown as a 1:1 isolation transformer)
C1a+b      MIXING CAPACITORS (should be relatively low impedance to frequency used)
   
1     VOLTAGE FIELD DRIVE TRANSFORMER PRIMARY -- T1
2     CURRENT CONTROL (can be one of innumerable circuits)
3     CURRENT DRIVE TRANSFORMER PRIMARY -- T2
4     CURRENT DRIVE TRANSFORMER SECONDARY -- T2
5     MIXING CAPACITOR INDUCTION PLATE --C1a & b
6     MIXING CAPACITOR VOLTAGE/CURRENT MIXING PLATE --C1a & b
7     MIXING TRANSFORMER PRIMARY --T3
8     MIXING TRANSFORMER SECONDARY – T3
9     VOLTAGE FIELD DRIVE TRANSFORMER SECONDARY -- T1
10     VOLTAGE FIELD CONTROL1
11     PHASE CONTROL (see footnote)
12     CONVERTER TRANSFORMER – T4
13     CURRENT SENSOR

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****** Explanation of Drawings ******

Magnetic Field Circuit
    A transformer (T2) is producing a current, using the plate of a capacitor (6) as a conductor, through the mixing transformer primary (T3 -- 7).  Within that primary the expanding and contracting magnetic fields will be in relationship to the current involved.  These magnetic fields induce the current  within the mixing transformer secondary T3 - 8  , which goes through the converter transformer (T4) and then to load.

Electric Field Circuit
    The exciting voltage in the primary of the high voltage transformer (T1) is produced by some ability to adjust the AC voltage phase (11) relative to the incoming current phase of (T2).  Keeping their phase relationship is a current sensor (13) feeding into 11.  There is a voltage control shown (10) before the primary as well.
    The high voltage secondary (9) is connected to a set of high voltage capacitor induction plates (C1a & b -- 5).  For very high voltage applications, T1 would be a Tesla wound coil.
    Each opposite plate of the high voltage capacitor plate mixing capacitor voltage/current mixing plate (C1a & b -- 6) is connected to the opposite ends of a coil (mixing transformer T3 primary – 7).  Said primary is positioned between (6) such that the induced high voltage across the capacitor demonstrates as a high voltage across the mixing transformer primary (T3 -- 7).
    Therefore, what the voltage circuit is; is a transformer attached to two capacitors connected in series with some kind of active impedance device in series between the two capacitors.  Typically, this type of circuit would draw very little current and be a low VA.  (depending on capacitor size or voltages used)
    This active impedance (see high voltage circuit diagram on pdf.) involves (depending on phase relationship) the secondary of the current drive transformer (T2 -- 4); which would actively facilitate the current transfer from C1a to C1b.  It would power drive (if you will) the migrating charge between C1a – 6 to C1b – 6.  In addition, this active impedance may involve the expanding and contracting magnetic fields of the mixing transformer primary (T3 – 7). 

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****** Electric Theory Operation ******

    Assume:

    • Suppose T3 is a 100 VA (Volts x Amperes)  power transformer
    • Suppose the primary of this 100 VA (Volts x Amperes) power transformer – (T3 -- 7) -- is fed 100 volts; the primary current, for the transformer’s rated capacity, is 1 ampere.
    • Suppose the secondary of the 100 VA (Volts x Amperes) power transformer (T3 – (eight)) – produces 10 volts; the secondary current, for the transformer’s rated capacity, is 10 amperes through the load.  This would make the load 1 ohm through the converter transformer (T4).

    The magnetic field circuit (T2) produces the current component of this AC power transformer (T3) at its rated VA.  In this example, it would drive (for the sake of argument) 1 ampere through (6 and 7).  In order to do this it would not have to reach 100 volts to drive that 1 ampere through the primary.  Let us say, for example, that (T2) needs 50 volts across its secondary (4) to drive one ampere through the mixing transformer primary (T3 -- 7).  This would mean 50 VA is entering the mixing transformer primary (T3 -- 7).
    As T2 is producing a 1 ampere current flow, the voltage across T3 primary (7) will be the usual out of phase voltage/current relationship of a coil.  This is where the electric field circuit comes in.  Another voltage is injected at this point across T3 – 7.

    The voltage of the electric field circuit (T1) can be much higher than the original input voltage produced by the current drive transformer (T2).  As the current in the magnetic field circuit enters the capacitor mixing plate (6) to the primary of the mixing transformer (T3 – 7), that current is now in a much stronger electric field than it originally was in.
    Let us say now that T3 – 7  has 100 volts (or 200, or 600, or 50,000) across it from T1.  The mixing coil secondary (T3 – (eight)) is going to be excited by a coil that has 100 volts (or ?) across it with the magnetic field current of 1 ampere.  In other words, the secondary would have a 100 VA capabilities.

    This is a device now that has 50+ VA going in (the +  being the low VA of the high voltage circuit); while, it is producing 100 VA at its output.  It is recognized that this is an apparent violation of the conservation of energy.  Please see Physics Theory Operation for an explanation.

    This unit can also be cascaded; meaning, the magnetic field circuits are connected in series while the electric field circuit is connected in parallel to the series connected magnetic field circuits

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****** Physics Theory Operation ******

    Again, as with the Electric Theory Operation, numerous assumptions must be made:

    Assuming: The current  physics theory of infinite potential energy of virtual photons is relatively accurate
    Assuming: That a Virtual Photon Reference (VPR) is a relatively accurate explanation for the physical forces present in Coulomb’s Law
    Given: Coulomb’s Law involves the physical force present in an electric field
    Then: Electric fields can – are able to – have a Virtual Photon Reference (VPR)

    Add on to this:

    Assuming: Electric fields can – is able to – have a Virtual Photon Reference (VPR)
    Given: Capacitors store energy through electric fields
    Then: Capacitors can – is able to – have a Virtual Photon Reference (VPR)

    Assuming that capacitors can have a VPR, then within this circuit, there would be three potential VPRs, C1a, C1b, and C1a – 5 to C1b – 5.  With the first two, C1a and C1b, each may have VPR involvement.  Two coils (7 and 4) with their closed circuit connect the two; and, with those coils are the expanding and contracting magnetic fields that go with them.  So, this would mean a VPR is connected to another VPR through some coils and/or changing magnetic fields.
    This is where the third VPR comes in.  The circuit across 5, that is C1a – 5 to C1b – 5 is another capacitor.  The previous VPR to coil to VPR is within another capacitor, VPR; two coils in a closed circuit (with their changing magnetic fields) have a VPR on each end and this assembly is in a capacitor – VPR.    
    The idea behind this is to put energy into a VPR system, tap into the infinite potential energy of a VPR, and bring some of this infinite potential energy into actuality with it as it comes out of the VPR system – a power amplifier.  This system is trying to do this by feeding the input power into a closed high voltage capacitance system.
    Going on the assumption that the stronger the electric fields the more the VPR involvement, as evidenced in Coulomb’s Law, then the higher the voltage across  C1a – 5 to C1b – 5 the more power this device should have.

    With the idea of expanding and contracting magnetics fields of the coils between the VPRs, and with T3 – 7 especially, adds what may be another set of considerations to the electrical schematic.  Specifically, can the changing electric fields of the capacitors be linked to the changing magnetic field of T3 – 7 ==> T2 – 4 circuit such that together they form their own intrinsic photon?
    This may involve ‘playing’ with the magnetic field shape, polarity, and configuration.  In addition, this also may involve the spatial relationships between the capacitor-coil-capacitor combination along with a spatial relationship to frequency.
    Perhaps, for future study.


FOOT NOTE: 1, Both 10 and 11 can vary from a simple rheostat and a LC or RC network (in which case 13 would not be necessary), to a dedicated slave AC power supply with a variable
phase lock using 13.


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Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 11, 2010, 01:33:30 AM
Good luck!
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: exnihiloest on October 11, 2010, 01:20:58 PM
http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/powerconverter.html

We see that a voltage generator is capacitively coupled to a current generator to feed a T3 transformer (T1, T2 and T4 are just intermediate transformers with no role relative to the principle).

It doesn't a matter there is a voltage generator, or a current generator, or two of them. To provide a voltage V and current I to a load, a voltage generator must generate V and I follows, or a current generator must generate I and V follows. When both are in parallel, each one participates in providing I/E. The type of source makes no difference.
The setup is very conventional. There is no reason to invoke "virtual photons" or to expect for OU.

Title: Electric field Transformer / Virtual Photon power converter
Post by: core on October 14, 2010, 03:48:48 AM
   Electric Field Transformer is yet another device created by Steven Joshua. This device is also very interesting and much like his Virtual Photon converter rather brilliant I believe. On the topic of the Electric Field Transformer what is find interesting is how Steve is creating and 'electric field' and mixing it with a 'magnetic field'. I don't know of any other device that is doing this 'mixing' of electric ingredients. Because of this I believe it is worth experimenting with. This can be an interesting idea.

   To read the compete details of the device please visit Steven's site:

http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/index.html

   From some brief email conversations I had with Steve I can tell you the 'Electric Field Transformer' is about 25 - 30 years old. The 'Virtual Photon Converter' is his most recent work. Personally I like both idea's and will be working with both. Also experimenting here is important Both devices require timing circuits so what I use on one I may be using on the other. Also I would like to build a hybrid of both devices together.

    I will play with the concept of the 'Electric field transformer' as mentioned above I like the concept. In my case I will be trying different coil set-up. Since I tons of ferrite rings I will put them to good use.

    My first coil design of the transformer, and going forward I will just call it Mixing Transformer, will consist of ferrite rings glued together. Two windings will be wrapped around the ferrite. One will be fed a (+) and the over (-). The purpose of this will be to see if the rings can become polarized. A good High voltage source will be needed so I will be trying different types.

    Also I will try another core with copper rings on them, high voltage will be feed to the rings. Different core materials will be used. Hopefully within the next few days I will be able experiment with this core.

    Most important this is about having fun and experimenting.

Respectfully,

Core

Title: Re: Electric field Transformer / Virtual Photon power converter
Post by: core on October 15, 2010, 02:41:22 AM
 
    My first coil design of the transformer, and going forward I will just call it Mixing Transformer, will consist of ferrite rings glued together. Two windings will be wrapped around the ferrite. One will be fed a (+) and the over (-). The purpose of this will be to see if the rings can become polarized. A good High voltage source will be needed so I will be trying different types.
 
Respectfully,

Core

   I ran some test's today, excellent news!! It was very easy to polarize the ferrite rings!
I jammed two coils of copper wire, one on each end and brought them together and created a spark gap. This quick test showed that a one piece (ferrite) core can have a hard (+) end, and the other end a hard (-).

So basically I used an outside source to influence a solid core material of about 10 inches to polarize to a point that causes the ends to ark between them. Maybe not a big deal for some but it is a important ingredient for the mixing coil AKA Electric field transformer.
 
I do need to find a better power supply (Hi-voltage) for now I am using an 'electronic' oil burner transformer about 14kv @ 22khz.
 
  Also I used a 2000 volt neon transformer AC output. Got same results but less spark across ferrite tube. Unfortunately I made a stupid mistake by mishandling the rings and broke them. Tomorrow I will rebuild the coil and film the results.

  The 1st big step is Polarizing the core material. 

Respectfully,

Core
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: core on October 15, 2010, 02:54:31 AM
This is what happens when you don't glue the rings well.
Pinocchio was so disgusted he turned away.

Due to the rain in the NY area tomorrow I'll have time to rebuild the coil.

Respectfully,

Core
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: e2matrix on October 15, 2010, 04:59:29 AM
core I don't think it was your fault.  Look at Pinocchio.  He's not looking away because he's disgusted.  He just afraid to look you in the eye.  It's obvious from the previous pic he was getting ready to do a karate chop right in the middle of your coil.  :D

 BTW nice work.   I had said way back in the TK thread that I was sure ferrite rings were used in either SR's or TK's or both.  Good to see some on that path again. 

That I-AM-A-I web site is really interesting and he's got an amazing volume of info there that seems to tie the metaphysical with the physical and a lot more.  The EF Transformer seems of considerable interest also.  A million tons of force from 2 milliamps !  Quite a concept.  I haven't looked into much of it yet but will put it high on my list of must reads.  Thanks for bringing this to our awareness. 
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: core on October 16, 2010, 05:57:25 AM

That I-AM-A-I web site is really interesting and he's got an amazing volume of info there that seems to tie the metaphysical with the physical and a lot more.  The EF Transformer seems of considerable interest also.  A million tons of force from 2 milliamps !  Quite a concept.  I haven't looked into much of it yet but will put it high on my list of must reads.  Thanks for bringing this to our awareness.


He has excellent material on the web site.

Respectfully,

Core
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: core on October 16, 2010, 06:53:15 AM
  I quick update on some experimenting I did. I have to say I have much to learn. I have to re-run all my experiments due to the odd experiences I had. Some of the experiences appeared almost harmful and not in an electrical way. ???   

  I've included a picture of my test core, this one is ferrite I will make another one from steel pipe. The steel pipe core will be built with copper high voltage emitters. Rubber insulation will be used to separate the contact between emitter and core.

  The ferrite ring core I tested today had the following make-up. Electrical tape covered the entire core, then a layer of electrical rubber tape. The wire on the core is the HV emitters, it is 16 Gauge CSA wire.

  In the picture below you will see what appears to be a 'coil' in the core. Let me explain this so it is clear why I did this. My goal was to see If I could polarize the core material with HV. Since I can't meter this I figured the next best thing would be to place a small ring of wire, one on  each side, and bring them together like a spark gap.? Again I have a lot to learn here.
 
  My thinking was, if the core was heavily polarized (ferrite in this test) the opposite ends would be at two different energy levels. This difference in charge particles would cause a spark to jump. Well I can say that getting it to spark with AC and DC was very easy. I was under the impression it would require a much higher voltage field to create a small spark.

Note: I will include a link to a YouTube page I created. The video I put up was just a test video it is not perfect but its the only one I have now that gives you a better picture. Also note that I am not using a 'Spark Gap' power to the emitters is fed directly from transformers (6Kv DC and a 4Kv AC) In the video I am using a 'Electronic Ignition' Transformer (DC). This is 6Kv DC @ around 25 - 30Khz as per nameplate. The sound you hear is strange, it is the pulsating of the transformer passing through the electric field? ???

  Driving the coil with 4000 Vac gives me a 'crackling' sound at the wires. The impression I get is that both sides of the solid coil are at two different energy levels.

ODDITIES:
 
  Just for laughs I decided to see if I could somehow measure this electric field with a plain old electric meter. I used two types, one was a older (1978) analog meter that my father gave me and the other was a basic run of the mill digital. Sticking, and touching, the probe on the inside of the core and metering to ground yields nothing. Going from my antenna coil to ground yields 200 Volts AC? (this was with AC as high voltage) I am not putting any value in this reading I will approach it at a later time.

Now its gets Bizarre

 Ok let me make one point. I am a person who rarely gets headaches. As a fact I can count on one hand how many I had in the last 10 years. Testing with the AC HV was not a problem. Issues started to crop up when pumping the 6Kv DC voltage.

  I noticed that when I let it run within about one minute I start getting headaches? The headaches go away as fast as they come when I shut the DC off. This does not happen with the AC high voltage just DC. And it only happens when I am with 2 feet of the coil? If I step away the headache leaves. ???

  Also another weird thing happens with the High Voltage DC. My analog meter has nothing digital in it whatsoever. I have included a picture below. This meter is sitting about 2.5 feet from the coil. There are no meter leads connected to it but when I turn on the DC high voltage I see the needle 'move', shut off the DC and the needle goes back to zero. Turn on, needle deflects. What is causing this? Maybe it has to do with the headaches????

Anyway I need to spend more time with this core and build a steel one. Here is the Youtube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkXmlKHIZ88

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Pictures to show set-up.
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Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: core on October 16, 2010, 07:49:28 AM
Forgot to include this picture. This is a constant spark created with AC 4Kv about 20Khz (I think).


Respectfully,

Core
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Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: dllabarre on October 16, 2010, 10:29:15 PM
Core

Quote
"Also note that I am not using a 'Spark Gap' power to the emitters is fed directly from transformers (6Kv DC and a 4Kv AC) In the video I am using a 'Electronic Ignition' Transformer (DC). This is 6Kv DC @ around 25 - 30Khz as per nameplate. The sound you hear is strange, it is the pulsating of the transformer passing through the electric field? 

  Driving the coil with 4000 Vac gives me a 'crackling' sound at the wires. The impression I get is that both sides of the solid coil are at two different energy levels. "

Are you saying the Electronic Ignition transformer is producing a 4kV AC sine wave?
If so, please tell me what the brand and size is and any other information so I can get one at a local Automotive Store?

I need 4kV AC for my testing but don't want pulse DC.

Thanks for the post!

DonL
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: core on October 18, 2010, 02:50:10 AM
Forgot to include this picture. This is a constant spark created with AC 4Kv about 20Khz (I think).


Respectfully,

Core
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  I wanted to quote myself because the above picture from the experiment has me completely perplexed. Also it has me wondering if I stumbled onto something important. What confuses me is that I am able to get a constant current for very little input?

   Basically the way I see it I am pulling off the electric field or pulling (+) positive charges out and sparking them to ground or (-) side. This spark has current so I now wonder if I where to mix this current, that required very little to make, with another signal would it enhance the signal and increase output???

  This is where I just do not know enough to build a circuit to test it. I would imagine that a 'spark-gap- would still be needed. I will have to test this further.

Respectfully,

Core 
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: Trastos on October 18, 2010, 03:45:41 AM
Quote
Ok let me make one point. I am a person who rarely gets headaches. As a fact I can count on one hand how many I had in the last 10 years. Testing with the AC HV was not a problem. Issues started to crop up when pumping the 6Kv DC voltage.

  I noticed that when I let it run within about one minute I start getting headaches? The headaches go away as fast as they come when I shut the DC off. This does not happen with the AC high voltage just DC. And it only happens when I am with 2 feet of the coil? If I step away the headache leaves. ???

  Also another weird thing happens with the High Voltage DC. My analog meter has nothing digital in it whatsoever. I have included a picture below. This meter is sitting about 2.5 feet from the coil. There are no meter leads connected to it but when I turn on the DC high voltage I see the needle 'move', shut off the DC and the needle goes back to zero. Turn on, needle deflects. What is causing this? Maybe it has to do with the headaches????
 

World Health Organization link
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs299/en/index.html
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: core on October 18, 2010, 05:15:15 AM
World Health Organization link
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs299/en/index.html

Thank you for the link.

Respectfully,

Core
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: core on October 18, 2010, 05:26:05 AM
As always I have alot more questions then answers.

Today i started wondering about electric fields. Say you have a square metal plate. On top of the plate you have a strong (+) signal. Below the plate you have the (-) signal. Positive charges in the metal plate are attracted to the (-) copper plate, negative charges in the metal plate are attracted to the (+) copper plate (Just like a capacitor).

What effect does the electric field have on the magnetic domains? Does it change the alignment? A strong electric field does have a weak magnetic field. Is this magnetic field do to the movement of charge particles in a ferrous material?

Respectfully,

Core
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: dllabarre on October 19, 2010, 07:19:52 AM
Anyone

When winding these Kapanadze type coils when is it better to use solid wire?
Or should I always use stranded wire?

Thank you,
DonL
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: stvnjsha on October 21, 2010, 05:36:08 AM
DC electric fields may be causing the headache.  Fortunately, they can be shielded against (unlike magnetic).  Also, because their strength is inversely proportional to distance, moving away would definintely have an effect.
In addition with strong DC electric fields, the D'arsval (sp?) movement of the analog meter (and any metal around the device), being conductors, may be another example of a conductor being electrically polarized through induction.

Thanks Core
peace
stvnjsha
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: core on October 21, 2010, 06:07:30 AM
DC electric fields may be causing the headache.  Fortunately, they can be shielded against (unlike magnetic).  Also, because their strength is inversely proportional to distance, moving away would definintely have an effect.
In addition with strong DC electric fields, the D'arsval (sp?) movement of the analog meter (and any metal around the device), being conductors, may be another example of a conductor being electrically polarized through induction.

Thanks Core
peace
stvnjsha

stvnjsha,

 I think you hit the nail on the head with the DC voltage. As soon as I step away the headaches stop as fast as they started.

I came across some round soft steel rod. I have some glass tubes I will cut to size, these tubes will slide over the steel perfectly. From there I will build two emitter plates to place on the glass tubes. The exposed part of the copper emitter will be covered in rubber. The steel will be bent in a horseshoe fashion.

The big key with high voltage, as I am learning, is bleed through. With my last test using rubber (1/8" thick) between the emitter and the steel road did nothing to stop the high voltage. Using glass should prevent this. Hopefully this week I will get some time to build this.

Also and welcome aboard!  :) There are a lot of people here that can learn from your knowledge. Thanks for the great web site.

Respectfully,

Core
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: stvnjsha on October 23, 2010, 06:10:25 AM
The bleed through may be due to dielectric leakage.  There is no such thing as a 'perfect insulator'.
Thanks Core.  And, I better introduce myself.

My name is Steven Joshua and it was from my website – i-am-a-i.org (http://i-am-a-i.org) -- that Core got some of his ideas.  The primary intention of this communication is ‘to get the word out’.  (The I AM A I website itself is a spiritual/mystical how-to website and is presented as a ‘public service’ with no advertisements.)
My electronics background is an A.S. in analog electronics.  After college, I spent five years troubleshooting and repair of analog electronics on the component level – TV repairman amongst other things.  It was in college (both in electronics and physics) that I learned about the enigma around Coulomb's Law (http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/index.html (http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/index.html)).

Concerning the devices
The devices found in the “Science Geek” entries of i-am-a-i.org are attempts to work with some of this enigma.
•   The electric field transformer (http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/index.html (http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/index.html)) is an attempt to produce strong electric fields without arcing issues.  Thereby, making more accessible the physical forces present in Coulomb's Law.  It attempts this through a bi-polar electric field induction (using a very high voltage) into an electrically conductive core -- a closed system.  In an AC condition, the polar charge migration and the accumulation process at the core ‘poles’ is augmented by expanding and contracting magnetic fields.
•   Concerning the virtual photon power converter (http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/powerconverter.html (http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/powerconverter.html)), the short version is this device is an attempt to convert RF power to real power.  The long version is to use capacitor plates of an electric field circuit as conductors between two transformer windings that are excited through a separate magnetic field circuit.  The two fields mix in one of the transformer windings such that the current energizing that winding is coming into the coil from a high voltage source.

Both of these ideas are working off of the same concept, which is to excite (using magnetic and electric fields from separate sources) a closed conductive electrical system in such a way that the system begins to exhibit intrinsic characteristics of its own. 
The idea of electrically exciting a closed electric circuit to get intrinsic characteristics is not new when it comes to coils and capacitors.  For example, a length of conductor x feet long has intrinsic electric and magnetic characteristics.  Put that wire in a coil and the wire now (due to magnetic fields) has different characteristics; specially, when an AC frequency is involved. 
Another example is attach a capacitor across that coil – create a tank circuit -- and that combination exhibits intrinsic characteristics at a very specific frequency (due to electric and magnetic fields); this is a tuned circuit.

The closed systems involved with these devices here are:
•   In the transformer, the closed system is the conductive core, its shape, and the crystalline matrix that the core atoms are in.
•   The closed conductive system in the converter is the two transformer windings connected through the capacitors plates (the subsequent material matrices of their components and the transformer core material).  Also, there may be spatial considerations.
•   Core appears to be experimenting and may be taking this concept in another direction.

The point is; once some of the concepts that are being presented is understood, there is a multitude of directions to go.  Because the application of some of these ideas may even open up new fields, conceivably lifetimes of study may be involved.

When in college (in both in world history and the history of electronics), I learned an innovation occurs, is adapted, and then over time its use becomes crystallized – stuck in a rut; then, another innovation occurs, etc.   
This crystallization process has happened in the exploration of other electric and magnetic field applications.  A major variable in this current crystallization formation is the perception of return – what ‘pays’.

This communication is a call to “start thinking out of the box”.  What the above devices have in common is taking the old concept of field excitation of a closed conductive circuit – a closed system -- into other directions.
The beginning of this communication stated the primary intent is to get the ideas out there.  The more people playing with these ideas (or the concepts behind the ideas), the better.   
Myself, I am a religious. I’m more into/in God and don’t have the requisite passion or resources.

Sooo…this communication will end like this:

MAD SCIENTISTS NEEDED
The must want to play with the above concepts or their equivalent in their basement or garage.
(You too can amaze your friends, impress your neighbors, excite your lover, win a Nobel Prize, or maybe save a planet or three.)
  ;D

Thanks again Core

The Peace of God is with you; it never left.

stvnjsha
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: e2matrix on October 23, 2010, 07:35:57 PM
stvnjsha,  Thanks for posting here.  You've got a very nice web site which I enjoy all aspects of including the spiritual.  Cheers
Title: Radio frequency and the skin effect
Post by: stvnjsha on October 23, 2010, 10:07:18 PM
I'm sorry, I should have picked up on the frequency thing earlier. :(

As one starts getting into radio frequencies (RF), the skin effect begins to happen.  The skin effect happens when the current in a conductor is changing direction faster than the conductor material – matrix -- can respond.   The result is the current travels on the surface of a conductor instead of in the conductor.  I don’t know the exact frequencies where the delineation of inside to outside conduction can occur.  I do know that 15Khz (TV HV flyback transformer) is considered RF.
This is why the Tesla coil has some of its peculiarities.  RF is why you can be attached to the HV output of a Tesla coil and not get zapped (as long as you don’t break the connection).  The current is traveling on your skin.   I’ve been zapped with 30kv RF, got instant pin size 3rd degree burns where it arced to my skin, and didn’t feel the electricity itself.
This is also why high power radio stations output coils are copper tubing.  The inside of the copper isn’t used while two surfaces of the tubing – inside and out -- are conducting.

The summary is one can make mistakes with HV RF and walk away.  HV low frequency and DC can knock your ass all the way to Damascus.

Why this is being mentioned is, if a HV AC source is used to induce fields in some kind of core material and that source is in the RF range (which 20Khz is), the current migration and possibly the induced charge itself will show up on the surface of the core material and not in the core material. 
In addition, RF can also travel on the surface of some insulators.

I really apologize for not catching this sooner.   :-[
When in you are experimenting in the 20Khz range, some of the effects you may be seeing may be due to RF and the skin effect.


Forgot to include this picture. This is a constant spark created with AC 4Kv about 20Khz (I think).


Respectfully,

Core
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Title: wire
Post by: stvnjsha on October 23, 2010, 11:09:24 PM
Don,
Right off I am ignorant of the Kapanadze coil construction.
All the coils I've worked with (motors to tuning coils) use solid wire.
The rule of thumb in electronics is if the wire is going to be subject to vibration, movement, or temperature, use stranded wire.  Solid wire does not react favorably to these conditions. 
If those conditions are not major variables, use solid.  As I understand it, stranded has a slightly higher resistance per linear distance. 

And...the Kapanadze coil may work off of a peculiar form of self inductance that is present in stranded, I don't know.  Also, stranded allows for easier coil reconfiguration -- playing.
In addition (and to make things more confusing), the concept of resonant frequency keeps coming up with what I have read so far in relationship to the Kapanadze and that automatically implies some form of tuned circuit and possibly RF -- radio frequency.  All coil/capacitor tuned circuits I have worked with that are in the RF range (UHF to 15KHz) have been solid wire.
Hope this helps.
stvnjsha

Anyone

When winding these Kapanadze type coils when is it better to use solid wire?
Or should I always use stranded wire?

Thank you,
DonL
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: stvnjsha on October 24, 2010, 12:20:30 AM
thank you


stvnjsha,  Thanks for posting here.  You've got a very nice web site which I enjoy all aspects of including the spiritual.  Cheers
Title: Re: wire
Post by: dllabarre on October 25, 2010, 03:46:34 PM
Don,
Right off I am ignorant of the Kapanadze coil construction.
All the coils I've worked with (motors to tuning coils) use solid wire.
The rule of thumb in electronics is if the wire is going to be subject to vibration, movement, or temperature, use stranded wire.  Solid wire does not react favorably to these conditions. 
If those conditions are not major variables, use solid.  As I understand it, stranded has a slightly higher resistance per linear distance. 

And...the Kapanadze coil may work off of a peculiar form of self inductance that is present in stranded, I don't know.  Also, stranded allows for easier coil reconfiguration -- playing.
In addition (and to make things more confusing), the concept of resonant frequency keeps coming up with what I have read so far in relationship to the Kapanadze and that automatically implies some form of tuned circuit and possibly RF -- radio frequency.  All coil/capacitor tuned circuits I have worked with that are in the RF range (UHF to 15KHz) have been solid wire.
Hope this helps.
stvnjsha

Thank you for your response.

I agree with Core, very nice and informative website.

DonL
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: core on October 28, 2010, 12:36:03 AM
stvnjsha,

  Thanks for publishing your work. One thing I have come to realize is, when it comes to high voltage / high frequency it is nothing like low voltage. low voltage being 460v, 230, 110, and 24v, these are the voltages I work with most often. So I have a bit of learning to do. Thankfully the internet makes it easy.

  Exactly where I end up with experimenting is anybody's guess. I have a habit of starting in one direction, seeing something, then going in a different direction. As an example while looking at one of the pictures 'D' and 'E' of the 'electric field isolation capacitor/transformer' I started to wonder what would be the result if I rapidly oscillated the magnetic field, as you are showing. If a coil is placed in the center what would be the output?

  There is alot of good stuff to start experimenting with and education to be gained. I like the concepts and will be tinkering with them.

Respectfully,

Core

 
Title: EF transformer: resonance and threshold conditions (or…sharing the ignorance)
Post by: stvnjsha on November 06, 2010, 05:08:29 AM
Hey Core,
Thanks for your passion.  Here’s some thoughts about some concepts presented in the Unknowns area of the electric field transformer webpage.  There are two entries there, bringing the unit into resonance and threshold conditions.  They may be relevant to what you may want to do.

Resonance
A word about coil/capacitor – tank circuit – resonance is first.  Depending on the q of the circuit, a tank circuit at resonance frequency can have up to 100 times more current traveling between the coil and the capacitor than is initially used to excite the circuit. 
It is the physics concept of sympathetic resonance and the coil/capacitor tuned circuit that makes all non-microwave radio possible.  A series coil capacitor is the transmitter and a parallel coil capacitor is the receiver.
The core assembly of the EF transformer is electrically a capacitor.  Placing a high voltage transformer across it automatically creates a tank circuit with intrinsic characteristics at a specific frequency.  The Unknown is what would happen if this tank circuit is brought into resonance? 
?????????(Specially if, the Tesla coil is placed inside the coil (Option I Figure I).  In that scenario, the expanding and contracting magnetic fields of the coil will affect capacitance and the migration charge’s magnetic field, as the poles change polarity, will reflect back into the coil as inductance. )???????????
The idea is to see if the current at resonance frequency can improve the device’s performance. 
One thing that is most likely to happen is with the higher frequencies a skin affect occurs on the core with the migrating pole charge.  This, if not insulated against, may compromise the ‘closed system’ the core is suppose to be.  And…something like a threshold affect can also occur.

Threshold effects
By threshold effect it is meant that under a specific set of conditions a closed system exhibits different properties.  An excellent example is a transistor.  A silicon crystal – an insulator – becomes a conductor under specific electric conditions (.6v between base and emitter).  A threshold condition is reached
I saw, when I was putting the EFT together in my head, the possibility of a threshold condition occurring.  The skin effect may become an element in this threshold condition.  At this point one of the ‘thresholds’ involved was crossing over into the realm of ignorance, mine.
One potential I saw was that the device could start to act like the virtual photon power converter.  If this occurs before the core’s electric fields are physically useful, this would mean the transformer is not working as it was intended (at that specific magnetic/electric fields phase relationship).

If there is a potential for a threshold in one direction, then there may be a potential  for a threshold in another way that I can’t see.????????? :-\

You are not the only one who doesn’t know.   Recognition of ignorance is the beginning of wisdom.
Peace
steve
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: stvnjsha on November 06, 2010, 05:34:00 AM
Please forgive me for not responding sooner. 
If this is a conventional setup, please show me another device that uses a capacitor plate of one circuit as a conductor in another circuit -- please. (a patent search by an attorney has not found anything equivalent to this device despite its apparent fundamental simplicity)
In terms of the xformers, T4 was put in as an after thought.  It was put in as a buffer -- an isolation xformer.  It is there to protect the mixing transformer (T3) from capacitance or inductive load phase variations.
In terms of T2, it is the secondary of T2 -- through the capacitor plates -- with the primary of T3 that forms a closed conductive system that is to be excited by the seperate fields.
Please look at this a little closer. you may be surprised.

peace
stvnjsha 



http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/powerconverter.html

We see that a voltage generator is capacitively coupled to a current generator to feed a T3 transformer (T1, T2 and T4 are just intermediate transformers with no role relative to the principle).

It doesn't a matter there is a voltage generator, or a current generator, or two of them. To provide a voltage V and current I to a load, a voltage generator must generate V and I follows, or a current generator must generate I and V follows. When both are in parallel, each one participates in providing I/E. The type of source makes no difference.
The setup is very conventional. There is no reason to invoke "virtual photons" or to expect for OU.
Title: A possible VPPC mixing capacitor (C1) construction
Post by: stvnjsha on November 06, 2010, 05:40:16 AM
Here is a possible construction of the VPPC’s mixing capacitor.  Be advised that this is “seat of the pants” engineering and no numbers have been crunched.  This is what I would make and hopefully it could take up to 30-40kv.  The dimensions are just something I figured would help serve voltage isolation.
Peace
Title: Re: A possible VPPC mixing capacitor (C1) construction
Post by: core on November 14, 2010, 01:56:13 AM
Here is a possible construction of the VPPC’s mixing capacitor.  Be advised that this is “seat of the pants” engineering and no numbers have been crunched.  This is what I would make and hopefully it could take up to 30-40kv.  The dimensions are just something I figured would help serve voltage isolation.
Peace

Nice concept should not be to difficult to build when I get there.

Respectfully,

Core
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: core on November 14, 2010, 02:15:15 AM
   Been busy with work and have not had much time to experiment. I have had some time to read and organize my idea's. One thing that has been on my mind for a long time has been a 'suitable High Voltage' supply.  I know alot of people are using neon sign transformers, microwave xfr, car induction coils etc... but i really want something different.

   I've done some reading on Tesla and I finally found my direction. For me it's difficult to 'change course' when my heart and mind move me in a certain direction. With the little time I've had I started building my HV power supply. It's actually a 'Impulse Generator'. I've included a wiring diagram. The diagram is not 100% correct I still have some work to do on it but I believe I am moving in the right direction because I have yet to see another of the same type.

  Some values on the diagram are not filled in as I have not figured the correct value. Ultimately I will be sending sharp impulses into a primary coil. A half-wave will be split, or abruptly cut, so I get a rise from 0 volts to max. Alot of work still needs to be completed on the power supply but when done should be a handy unit for other experiments also.

  Here is my preliminary wiring diagram its not 100% perfect yet but it will get there.

Respectfully,

Core


   
Title: Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
Post by: core on November 15, 2010, 12:15:09 AM
 Found a interesting program this afternoon. Not sure if it has been posted on this forum but worth downloading.

http://www.yenka.com/

There is a version that is FREE to download for personal use. Give it a try.

Respectfully,

Core