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Author Topic: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter  (Read 22387 times)

Offline dllabarre

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Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2010, 07:19:52 AM »
Anyone

When winding these Kapanadze type coils when is it better to use solid wire?
Or should I always use stranded wire?

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DonL

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Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2010, 05:36:08 AM »
DC electric fields may be causing the headache.  Fortunately, they can be shielded against (unlike magnetic).  Also, because their strength is inversely proportional to distance, moving away would definintely have an effect.
In addition with strong DC electric fields, the D'arsval (sp?) movement of the analog meter (and any metal around the device), being conductors, may be another example of a conductor being electrically polarized through induction.

Thanks Core
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Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2010, 06:07:30 AM »
DC electric fields may be causing the headache.  Fortunately, they can be shielded against (unlike magnetic).  Also, because their strength is inversely proportional to distance, moving away would definintely have an effect.
In addition with strong DC electric fields, the D'arsval (sp?) movement of the analog meter (and any metal around the device), being conductors, may be another example of a conductor being electrically polarized through induction.

Thanks Core
peace
stvnjsha

stvnjsha,

 I think you hit the nail on the head with the DC voltage. As soon as I step away the headaches stop as fast as they started.

I came across some round soft steel rod. I have some glass tubes I will cut to size, these tubes will slide over the steel perfectly. From there I will build two emitter plates to place on the glass tubes. The exposed part of the copper emitter will be covered in rubber. The steel will be bent in a horseshoe fashion.

The big key with high voltage, as I am learning, is bleed through. With my last test using rubber (1/8" thick) between the emitter and the steel road did nothing to stop the high voltage. Using glass should prevent this. Hopefully this week I will get some time to build this.

Also and welcome aboard!  :) There are a lot of people here that can learn from your knowledge. Thanks for the great web site.

Respectfully,

Core

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Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
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Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2010, 06:10:25 AM »
The bleed through may be due to dielectric leakage.  There is no such thing as a 'perfect insulator'.
Thanks Core.  And, I better introduce myself.

My name is Steven Joshua and it was from my website – i-am-a-i.org -- that Core got some of his ideas.  The primary intention of this communication is ‘to get the word out’.  (The I AM A I website itself is a spiritual/mystical how-to website and is presented as a ‘public service’ with no advertisements.)
My electronics background is an A.S. in analog electronics.  After college, I spent five years troubleshooting and repair of analog electronics on the component level – TV repairman amongst other things.  It was in college (both in electronics and physics) that I learned about the enigma around Coulomb's Law (http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/index.html).

Concerning the devices
The devices found in the “Science Geek” entries of i-am-a-i.org are attempts to work with some of this enigma.
•   The electric field transformer (http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/index.html) is an attempt to produce strong electric fields without arcing issues.  Thereby, making more accessible the physical forces present in Coulomb's Law.  It attempts this through a bi-polar electric field induction (using a very high voltage) into an electrically conductive core -- a closed system.  In an AC condition, the polar charge migration and the accumulation process at the core ‘poles’ is augmented by expanding and contracting magnetic fields.
•   Concerning the virtual photon power converter (http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/powerconverter.html), the short version is this device is an attempt to convert RF power to real power.  The long version is to use capacitor plates of an electric field circuit as conductors between two transformer windings that are excited through a separate magnetic field circuit.  The two fields mix in one of the transformer windings such that the current energizing that winding is coming into the coil from a high voltage source.

Both of these ideas are working off of the same concept, which is to excite (using magnetic and electric fields from separate sources) a closed conductive electrical system in such a way that the system begins to exhibit intrinsic characteristics of its own. 
The idea of electrically exciting a closed electric circuit to get intrinsic characteristics is not new when it comes to coils and capacitors.  For example, a length of conductor x feet long has intrinsic electric and magnetic characteristics.  Put that wire in a coil and the wire now (due to magnetic fields) has different characteristics; specially, when an AC frequency is involved. 
Another example is attach a capacitor across that coil – create a tank circuit -- and that combination exhibits intrinsic characteristics at a very specific frequency (due to electric and magnetic fields); this is a tuned circuit.

The closed systems involved with these devices here are:
•   In the transformer, the closed system is the conductive core, its shape, and the crystalline matrix that the core atoms are in.
•   The closed conductive system in the converter is the two transformer windings connected through the capacitors plates (the subsequent material matrices of their components and the transformer core material).  Also, there may be spatial considerations.
•   Core appears to be experimenting and may be taking this concept in another direction.

The point is; once some of the concepts that are being presented is understood, there is a multitude of directions to go.  Because the application of some of these ideas may even open up new fields, conceivably lifetimes of study may be involved.

When in college (in both in world history and the history of electronics), I learned an innovation occurs, is adapted, and then over time its use becomes crystallized – stuck in a rut; then, another innovation occurs, etc.   
This crystallization process has happened in the exploration of other electric and magnetic field applications.  A major variable in this current crystallization formation is the perception of return – what ‘pays’.

This communication is a call to “start thinking out of the box”.  What the above devices have in common is taking the old concept of field excitation of a closed conductive circuit – a closed system -- into other directions.
The beginning of this communication stated the primary intent is to get the ideas out there.  The more people playing with these ideas (or the concepts behind the ideas), the better.   
Myself, I am a religious. I’m more into/in God and don’t have the requisite passion or resources.

Sooo…this communication will end like this:

MAD SCIENTISTS NEEDED
The must want to play with the above concepts or their equivalent in their basement or garage.
(You too can amaze your friends, impress your neighbors, excite your lover, win a Nobel Prize, or maybe save a planet or three.)
  ;D

Thanks again Core

The Peace of God is with you; it never left.

stvnjsha

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Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2010, 07:35:57 PM »
stvnjsha,  Thanks for posting here.  You've got a very nice web site which I enjoy all aspects of including the spiritual.  Cheers

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Radio frequency and the skin effect
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2010, 10:07:18 PM »
I'm sorry, I should have picked up on the frequency thing earlier. :(

As one starts getting into radio frequencies (RF), the skin effect begins to happen.  The skin effect happens when the current in a conductor is changing direction faster than the conductor material – matrix -- can respond.   The result is the current travels on the surface of a conductor instead of in the conductor.  I don’t know the exact frequencies where the delineation of inside to outside conduction can occur.  I do know that 15Khz (TV HV flyback transformer) is considered RF.
This is why the Tesla coil has some of its peculiarities.  RF is why you can be attached to the HV output of a Tesla coil and not get zapped (as long as you don’t break the connection).  The current is traveling on your skin.   I’ve been zapped with 30kv RF, got instant pin size 3rd degree burns where it arced to my skin, and didn’t feel the electricity itself.
This is also why high power radio stations output coils are copper tubing.  The inside of the copper isn’t used while two surfaces of the tubing – inside and out -- are conducting.

The summary is one can make mistakes with HV RF and walk away.  HV low frequency and DC can knock your ass all the way to Damascus.

Why this is being mentioned is, if a HV AC source is used to induce fields in some kind of core material and that source is in the RF range (which 20Khz is), the current migration and possibly the induced charge itself will show up on the surface of the core material and not in the core material. 
In addition, RF can also travel on the surface of some insulators.

I really apologize for not catching this sooner.   :-[
When in you are experimenting in the 20Khz range, some of the effects you may be seeing may be due to RF and the skin effect.


Forgot to include this picture. This is a constant spark created with AC 4Kv about 20Khz (I think).


Respectfully,

Core
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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2010, 11:09:24 PM »
Don,
Right off I am ignorant of the Kapanadze coil construction.
All the coils I've worked with (motors to tuning coils) use solid wire.
The rule of thumb in electronics is if the wire is going to be subject to vibration, movement, or temperature, use stranded wire.  Solid wire does not react favorably to these conditions. 
If those conditions are not major variables, use solid.  As I understand it, stranded has a slightly higher resistance per linear distance. 

And...the Kapanadze coil may work off of a peculiar form of self inductance that is present in stranded, I don't know.  Also, stranded allows for easier coil reconfiguration -- playing.
In addition (and to make things more confusing), the concept of resonant frequency keeps coming up with what I have read so far in relationship to the Kapanadze and that automatically implies some form of tuned circuit and possibly RF -- radio frequency.  All coil/capacitor tuned circuits I have worked with that are in the RF range (UHF to 15KHz) have been solid wire.
Hope this helps.
stvnjsha

Anyone

When winding these Kapanadze type coils when is it better to use solid wire?
Or should I always use stranded wire?

Thank you,
DonL

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Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2010, 12:20:30 AM »
thank you


stvnjsha,  Thanks for posting here.  You've got a very nice web site which I enjoy all aspects of including the spiritual.  Cheers

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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2010, 03:46:34 PM »
Don,
Right off I am ignorant of the Kapanadze coil construction.
All the coils I've worked with (motors to tuning coils) use solid wire.
The rule of thumb in electronics is if the wire is going to be subject to vibration, movement, or temperature, use stranded wire.  Solid wire does not react favorably to these conditions. 
If those conditions are not major variables, use solid.  As I understand it, stranded has a slightly higher resistance per linear distance. 

And...the Kapanadze coil may work off of a peculiar form of self inductance that is present in stranded, I don't know.  Also, stranded allows for easier coil reconfiguration -- playing.
In addition (and to make things more confusing), the concept of resonant frequency keeps coming up with what I have read so far in relationship to the Kapanadze and that automatically implies some form of tuned circuit and possibly RF -- radio frequency.  All coil/capacitor tuned circuits I have worked with that are in the RF range (UHF to 15KHz) have been solid wire.
Hope this helps.
stvnjsha

Thank you for your response.

I agree with Core, very nice and informative website.

DonL

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Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2010, 12:36:03 AM »
stvnjsha,

  Thanks for publishing your work. One thing I have come to realize is, when it comes to high voltage / high frequency it is nothing like low voltage. low voltage being 460v, 230, 110, and 24v, these are the voltages I work with most often. So I have a bit of learning to do. Thankfully the internet makes it easy.

  Exactly where I end up with experimenting is anybody's guess. I have a habit of starting in one direction, seeing something, then going in a different direction. As an example while looking at one of the pictures 'D' and 'E' of the 'electric field isolation capacitor/transformer' I started to wonder what would be the result if I rapidly oscillated the magnetic field, as you are showing. If a coil is placed in the center what would be the output?

  There is alot of good stuff to start experimenting with and education to be gained. I like the concepts and will be tinkering with them.

Respectfully,

Core

 

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Hey Core,
Thanks for your passion.  Here’s some thoughts about some concepts presented in the Unknowns area of the electric field transformer webpage.  There are two entries there, bringing the unit into resonance and threshold conditions.  They may be relevant to what you may want to do.

Resonance
A word about coil/capacitor – tank circuit – resonance is first.  Depending on the q of the circuit, a tank circuit at resonance frequency can have up to 100 times more current traveling between the coil and the capacitor than is initially used to excite the circuit. 
It is the physics concept of sympathetic resonance and the coil/capacitor tuned circuit that makes all non-microwave radio possible.  A series coil capacitor is the transmitter and a parallel coil capacitor is the receiver.
The core assembly of the EF transformer is electrically a capacitor.  Placing a high voltage transformer across it automatically creates a tank circuit with intrinsic characteristics at a specific frequency.  The Unknown is what would happen if this tank circuit is brought into resonance? 
?????????(Specially if, the Tesla coil is placed inside the coil (Option I Figure I).  In that scenario, the expanding and contracting magnetic fields of the coil will affect capacitance and the migration charge’s magnetic field, as the poles change polarity, will reflect back into the coil as inductance. )???????????
The idea is to see if the current at resonance frequency can improve the device’s performance. 
One thing that is most likely to happen is with the higher frequencies a skin affect occurs on the core with the migrating pole charge.  This, if not insulated against, may compromise the ‘closed system’ the core is suppose to be.  And…something like a threshold affect can also occur.

Threshold effects
By threshold effect it is meant that under a specific set of conditions a closed system exhibits different properties.  An excellent example is a transistor.  A silicon crystal – an insulator – becomes a conductor under specific electric conditions (.6v between base and emitter).  A threshold condition is reached
I saw, when I was putting the EFT together in my head, the possibility of a threshold condition occurring.  The skin effect may become an element in this threshold condition.  At this point one of the ‘thresholds’ involved was crossing over into the realm of ignorance, mine.
One potential I saw was that the device could start to act like the virtual photon power converter.  If this occurs before the core’s electric fields are physically useful, this would mean the transformer is not working as it was intended (at that specific magnetic/electric fields phase relationship).

If there is a potential for a threshold in one direction, then there may be a potential  for a threshold in another way that I can’t see.????????? :-\

You are not the only one who doesn’t know.   Recognition of ignorance is the beginning of wisdom.
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Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2010, 05:34:00 AM »
Please forgive me for not responding sooner. 
If this is a conventional setup, please show me another device that uses a capacitor plate of one circuit as a conductor in another circuit -- please. (a patent search by an attorney has not found anything equivalent to this device despite its apparent fundamental simplicity)
In terms of the xformers, T4 was put in as an after thought.  It was put in as a buffer -- an isolation xformer.  It is there to protect the mixing transformer (T3) from capacitance or inductive load phase variations.
In terms of T2, it is the secondary of T2 -- through the capacitor plates -- with the primary of T3 that forms a closed conductive system that is to be excited by the seperate fields.
Please look at this a little closer. you may be surprised.

peace
stvnjsha 



http://www.i-am-a-i.org/free-energy/powerconverter.html

We see that a voltage generator is capacitively coupled to a current generator to feed a T3 transformer (T1, T2 and T4 are just intermediate transformers with no role relative to the principle).

It doesn't a matter there is a voltage generator, or a current generator, or two of them. To provide a voltage V and current I to a load, a voltage generator must generate V and I follows, or a current generator must generate I and V follows. When both are in parallel, each one participates in providing I/E. The type of source makes no difference.
The setup is very conventional. There is no reason to invoke "virtual photons" or to expect for OU.

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A possible VPPC mixing capacitor (C1) construction
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2010, 05:40:16 AM »
Here is a possible construction of the VPPC’s mixing capacitor.  Be advised that this is “seat of the pants” engineering and no numbers have been crunched.  This is what I would make and hopefully it could take up to 30-40kv.  The dimensions are just something I figured would help serve voltage isolation.
Peace

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Re: A possible VPPC mixing capacitor (C1) construction
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2010, 01:56:13 AM »
Here is a possible construction of the VPPC’s mixing capacitor.  Be advised that this is “seat of the pants” engineering and no numbers have been crunched.  This is what I would make and hopefully it could take up to 30-40kv.  The dimensions are just something I figured would help serve voltage isolation.
Peace

Nice concept should not be to difficult to build when I get there.

Respectfully,

Core

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Re: Aether power converter / Virtual photon power converter
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2010, 02:15:15 AM »
   Been busy with work and have not had much time to experiment. I have had some time to read and organize my idea's. One thing that has been on my mind for a long time has been a 'suitable High Voltage' supply.  I know alot of people are using neon sign transformers, microwave xfr, car induction coils etc... but i really want something different.

   I've done some reading on Tesla and I finally found my direction. For me it's difficult to 'change course' when my heart and mind move me in a certain direction. With the little time I've had I started building my HV power supply. It's actually a 'Impulse Generator'. I've included a wiring diagram. The diagram is not 100% correct I still have some work to do on it but I believe I am moving in the right direction because I have yet to see another of the same type.

  Some values on the diagram are not filled in as I have not figured the correct value. Ultimately I will be sending sharp impulses into a primary coil. A half-wave will be split, or abruptly cut, so I get a rise from 0 volts to max. Alot of work still needs to be completed on the power supply but when done should be a handy unit for other experiments also.

  Here is my preliminary wiring diagram its not 100% perfect yet but it will get there.

Respectfully,

Core


   

 

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