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dirt diggler

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Laws of Physics just local"bylaws"
« on: September 11, 2010, 03:38:41 PM »
http://www.physorg.com/news202921592.html

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http://www.gizmag.com/laws-of-physics-may-vary-throughout-the-universe/16329/

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“The implications for our current understanding of science are profound. If the laws of physics turn out to be merely 'local by-laws', it might be that whilst our observable part of the universe favours the existence of life and human beings, other far more distant regions may exist where different laws preclude the formation of life, at least as we know it,” Webb added. “If our results are correct, clearly we shall need new physical theories to satisfactorily describe them

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The discovery will force scientists to rethink their understanding of Nature's laws. "The fine structure constant, and other fundamental constants, are absolutely central to our current theory of physics. If they really do vary, we'll need a better, deeper theory," Dr Michael Murphy from Swinburne University said. "While a 'varying constant' would shake our understanding of the world around us extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. What we're finding is extraordinary, no doubt about that.”


Interesting stuff.

FatChance!!!

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Re: Laws of Physics just local"bylaws"
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2010, 04:53:14 PM »
When questioning the Laws of Physics I don't quite think they had overunity in mind.

dirt diggler

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Re: Laws of Physics just local"bylaws"
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2010, 04:56:49 PM »
Agreed, but the point is that if there is one exception to the "laws", then there is a very good chance there are more exceptions.

FatChance!!!

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Re: Laws of Physics just local"bylaws"
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2010, 05:15:45 PM »
Yes, we could always hope for this and nothing else would make me happier.
But I feel after all my time here at OU forum and my own research (not publicized) that this
won't help us achieve OU. Sometimes the laws are really the bonafied laws.

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Re: Laws of Physics just local"bylaws"
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2010, 10:54:47 AM »
Actually if there is just one exception, the law is falsificated - it's not real.

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Re: Laws of Physics just local"bylaws"
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2010, 03:03:42 PM »
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extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
this is a flawed argument. shame on sagan for ever even voicing it.

science doesn't require extraordinary evidence UNLESS it is an unpopular claim. in case of point, the big bang theory. arguably the most extraordinary claim ever!  'first there was nothing, then it exploded'. where is the extraordinary evidence for this? ::)

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Re: Laws of Physics just local"bylaws"
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2010, 05:19:29 AM »
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