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Author Topic: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure  (Read 32863 times)

Offline iflewmyown

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2010, 01:51:00 PM »
Grumpy said'
"It appears that no one is interested in this device."

The whole world  is interested in your device if it exists.

I think there is no device. You have only an idea from someone else that might work if somebody builds it for you. I spent two weeks this summer and built a two axis solar collector 11' x 24' that supplies about 70% of my energy needs. I have spent 25 YEARS chasing free energy devices that are claimed to work by someone. You may come see my solar panels anytime. Where is your device ...
Garry

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Offline ramset

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2010, 04:06:32 PM »
Well, Well, Well,
Throwing stones at the messenger!
Only kidding,this is a frustrating endeavor FE
But I think that Turkish guy has a lot of attention right now,
and It seems like that would be easier [plus that one comes with "Carrots" ala "Cosmoslv"]

HOWEVER!!
Their is a guy that has a "device/thingy"
that has been tested between 400 % ------2700 % Over unity INDEPENDENTLY
Plus other big words like
INFINATE!!
and he is available for Input and replication here

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7833.new

Thane Heinz  the inventer
AKA
Boom , Boom, Cranky Pants, Man Zilla

He got real tuff skin fighting these last few years !!
AND HIS DAY HAS COME!
Chet

Offline sigma16

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2010, 04:14:03 PM »
Grumpy said'
"It appears that no one is interested in this device."

The whole world  is interested in your device if it exists.

I think there is no device. You have only an idea from someone else that might work if somebody builds it for you. I spent two weeks this summer and built a two axis solar collector 11' x 24' that supplies about 70% of my energy needs. I have spent 25 YEARS chasing free energy devices that are claimed to work by someone. You may come see my solar panels anytime. Where is your device ...
Garry

AND

+1  ;)

I don't give a shit what either of you think or do. 

Any competent person, that does not have his head up his ass, (which is quite rare) can figure it out.

So, you can either keep talking a bunch of smack, or you can get off your ass and roll the dice.  I rolled the dice.

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2010, 04:14:03 PM »
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Offline sigma16

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2010, 04:40:04 PM »
Well, Well, Well,
Throwing stones at the messenger!
Only kidding,this is a frustrating endeavor FE
But I think that Turkish guy has a lot of attention right now,
and It seems like that would be easier [plus that one comes with "Carrots" ala "Cosmoslv"]

HOWEVER!!
Their is a guy that has a "device/thingy"
that has been tested between 400 % ------2700 % Over unity INDEPENDENTLY
Plus other big words like
INFINATE!!
and he is available for Input and replication here

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7833.new

Thane Heinz  the inventer
AKA
Boom , Boom, Cranky Pants, Man Zilla

He got real tuff skin fighting these last few years !!
AND HIS DAY HAS COME!
Chet

What dumb asses do not see is that ALL free energy devices work on the same principles or they do not work.  No exceptions.

Offline FatBird

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2010, 04:51:49 PM »
@ sigma16
I appears that no one is interested in this device

====================================================

WRONG, WRONG.

There are hundreds of us that are interested, but most of us are BURNED OUT from chasing RABITT TRAIL IDEAS.  YEARS HAVE PASSED with NO RESULTS.

Now most of us want to see something that looks promising before we jump in with both feet and SPEND MORE MONEY & MORE YEARS for NOTHING.

Cheers.

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« Last Edit: October 21, 2010, 05:45:50 PM by FatBird »

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2010, 04:51:49 PM »
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Offline sigma16

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2010, 05:56:33 PM »
Most people are content to talk while everyone else does the work.  They have endless excuses, such the cost of materials and equipment, they have no time, and many others.  People don't even try, and they never have anything, and only themselves to blame.

It cost very little to read free materials to find knowledge.  It costs only a little more to try experiments.

Offline sigma16

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2010, 06:32:44 PM »

Grumpy

Your arrogance blinds you, and you don't realize there are many many competent person in that and other forums, who can figure it out, with true help. That document which you after  I don't know how many years shared, definitely valuable in some degree, but you cannot say it's complete, and enough to replicate that device. 

We all know here, you know nearly everything, and you figured it out long long time ago. But please think about the purpose of that forum,which is to help each other, share knowledge for a better future. Here you are, who knows how every OU device (I never saw ONE that worked) works, you supposedly built one which work, and rather than sharing your work, you share others work, and bash everyone how dumbass are, because they don't figure it out.

It's very nice from you, as always.  :-[

I am not arrogant.  I just don't care anymore.  There is a difference.

I have given you a great deal of help, what have you done with it?

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2010, 06:32:44 PM »
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Offline steeltpu

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2010, 07:01:19 PM »
I have seen this behavior since grade school.  One person knows something others do not know.  So they keep it just out of reach to make themselves feel smarter and special.  It's based in a need to feel better than everyone else.  This has been a roadblock of human nature that many researchers find themselves in when they discover something.  They get constant ego boost that no one else has figured it out while missing the bigger picture of how much good they could receive by giving it all to the universe.  Only a few seem to have the right mindset regarding this and unfortunately most of them have not yet stumbled on the right combination.

Offline sigma16

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2010, 10:48:53 PM »
Don't act like you ever sent me anything privately to help me, however I am remembering a PM some two years ago, where you wrote me : "You are a hungarian gipsy." It was very helpful that time, and I want to thank you for that.  :P

You see, you tell us you are not arrogant,and there is difference, because you just don't care. Who not care, will not care to post anything to anyone, but you do exactly the opposite. It's not enough you post you are not arrogant, because you know there are competent peoples here, who dumbass enough to not figure it out, but they competent enough to see what game you are playing here. :P (of course they remain silent, you know why Grumpy, because they truly don't care:P )  After a lot of silence in your topics, you post something like that how dumb we are, to keep topic alive, and start again some endless loop, where most of the time you know, and you are right, but you cannot tell us exactly how it work, we have to find the truth by our selfs.

I used the term "dumb ass" in response to stupid comments made by you and another person.  Do not twist it around to make me sound arrogant or imply that I think everyone is stupid.

No amount of information will you help you to get something to work that you do not believe will work or that you are not willing to buiild in the first place.  Unless you are willing to do the work, then do not ask for the information.

I would never call you a "gypsy", though they are a discredited people, they are far above you.

I gave you good information on the Hendrshot device and I wasted my words.

I have given two sepearate methods of creating extra energy.  You don't try any experiments but keep asking for more information.  If you are not willing to help yourself, then how do you expect someone else to help you?

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2010, 10:48:53 PM »
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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2010, 12:19:32 AM »
Then ignore me.  Oh yeah, you can't do that.

Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2010, 03:45:57 AM »
I appears that no one is interested in this device.
why is that do you suppose? because of incomplete information? no working principles? milehigh didn't give his approval?

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2010, 03:45:57 AM »
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Offline MarkSnoswell

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2015, 01:13:56 AM »
Whose out there making progress?

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2015, 08:56:08 AM »
the first thing you have to understand when dealing with a resonant energy system,......
is resonance.

frequency, and phase.
how frequencies affects each other, and the relationship between phase shift and time.
two coherent phase signals can have exponentially increasing amplitudes- like Teslas Oscillator
two incoherent phase signals can destroy each other. - like soldiers breaking march on a bridge.

When an inductor operates in a resonant mode, its' reluctance drops to 0,
essentially turning it into a superinductor (the magnetic counterpart to a superconductor)
It is very important to learn and understand this relationship.

I hear things like " its not working, I did exactly like the build instructions said!!"
then when you ask a simple question like " what frequency is your circuit switching at?"
they don't even know.......   
like it never occurred to them that frequency could affect the performance of the device.

I guess what im trying to say is,.. if you happen to find yourself working on a resonant system,
and you have no clue what frequency or frequencies you are trying to resonate at or with....

please stop what you are doing, and take the time to study these concepts.

thank you,
               Sm0ky2

Offline pomodoro

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2015, 01:25:50 PM »
Nonsense like this is what makes people give up. A resonant coil does not become a superinductor or some other mystical component. Its resistance still remains although its reactance has been canceled. Where did you come up with this garbage.

Quote from: sm0ky2 link=topic=9749.msg469634#msg469634 date=1451 :D :) :) ;)202968
the first thing you have to understand when dealing with a resonant energy system,......
is resonance.

frequency, and phase.
how frequencies affects each other, and the relationship between phase shift and time.
two coherent phase signals can have exponentially increasing amplitudes- like Teslas Oscillator
two incoherent phase signals can destroy each other. - like soldiers breaking march on a bridge.

When an inductor operates in a resonant mode, its' reluctance drops to 0,
essentially turning it into a superinductor (the magnetic counterpart to a superconductor)
It is very important to learn and understand this relationship.

I hear things like " its not working, I did exactly like the build instructions said!!"
then when you ask a simple question like " what frequency is your circuit switching at?"
they don't even know.......   
like it never occurred to them that frequency could affect the performance of the device.

I guess what im trying to say is,.. if you happen to find yourself working on a resonant system,
and you have no clue what frequency or frequencies you are trying to resonate at or with....

please stop what you are doing, and take the time to study these concepts.

thank you,
               Sm0ky2

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure
« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2015, 07:41:01 AM »
Nonsense like this is what makes people give up. A resonant coil does not become a superinductor or some other mystical component. Its resistance still remains although its reactance has been canceled. Where did you come up with this garbage.

first of all, I didn't say resistance, I said reluctance, which is the magnetic equivalent. Electrical resistance is not changed, what is changed is the magnetic reluctance to change in the inductive field. No heat, almost no cancelling atomic magnetic moments, no back-spikes, etc.

When the core operates at its' self-resonant frequency, the inductive losses in the system are at a minimum. "nonsense" like this is available on the inductors' data sheet
for people that don't know what it means to ignore and think its just a random statistic posted there to waste their time......

Where I personally came up with this "garbage" was in an 11'th grade college-prep course in signal processing,
which was further reinforced with advanced physics that makes things like the computer you are typing on operate.....

There is nothing mystical here, or even anything that is not known.

if you design your inductor and coil to the frequency you want to operate at, it is the most efficient.

This was all shown to us by Joseph Henry in the 1820's when he invented the inductor and the coil...... 
It's the inverse of the Faraday equations, and the point when reluctance = 0

If you don not understand these principals, all you are doing is wrapping some wire around something and wasting energy.







 

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