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Author Topic: My free energy experiment.  (Read 84681 times)

Offline shylo

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Re: My free energy experiment.
« Reply #90 on: October 23, 2010, 04:06:21 AM »
Hi Steve ...are you saying you added a 2nd cd motor ....doubiling the load ,....but hooked it to add to the 1st load???............shylo

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« Reply #91 on: October 23, 2010, 04:48:20 AM »
Yep two cd motors connected at the rotors, one cd spinning in between them, same batteries as in the schematic,two in series recharging three in parallel,all is same, wired both cd motors so they both spin the cd in the same direction, in effect both cd motors are connected/ wired to each other, much faster recharge this way it seems,,more test to do,,it may not run as long as before,,not sure yet,,just started this one some hours ago,,so its the first test,,I was just amazed at how fast it recharges,,numbers read 1353 already,,with one cd motor that takes almost 12 hours to get that high, or longer,,but like I said got more test to do,,feel free to do your own on it. Was kind of neat I thought so posted it.

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« Reply #92 on: October 23, 2010, 04:59:51 PM »
This is very interesting I think. So I restarted the test this morning at 5:40 am,,the reason being I could not get an estimate of full run time since the main batteries I started the experiment with were not fully recharged, I had been using them for a reed motor experiment before that. Anyway So everything is the same setup as I mentioned in the previous post. Still using two cd motors, one on top,,one on bottom with a cd between them, both motors have their shafts connected to the cd motor. It spinning fast as can be and batteries read so far now at 1371. This is not a misreading caused by some stray ac frequency throw off or high voltage, Knows how such can screw up a reading. I even disconnected the recharging batteries to take a reading to be sure and they held at 1364,,they always drop a little when taking the recharger off. So they are recharging far more higher in numbers then my one cd motor experiment did. I will of course repeat the experiment again,,and maybe more to try to figure it all out. I will admit the top motor wobbles a little as its not evenly connected to the cd motor as the motor on bottom is, just used hot glue stick glue to melt the plastic gear part to the rotor. But this seems to cause no overall loss of spin. The top motor just rest there as its wires are strung over and clipped to the top of one of my digital meters tops by a close pin lol. But it hold the motor stable enough so it remains fairly still and cant twist to much. Thats all I can say about it I guess so far,,just did another reading,,time 10:56 on the computer,,recharging bats at 1371 and also did a reading on the main bats,,they read 2.46 since I half to read them on the DCV 20v setting. I read the parallel three batteries as one battery since there all connected on the DCV 2000m setting, I do that so I can see a 4 digit display and can tell if charging is going up or down as its much harder to tell on the 20v setting. Well thats all for now I guess,,will post more after the next run no doubt when this run ends.

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Offline nievesoliveras

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« Reply #93 on: October 23, 2010, 07:58:21 PM »
Is it like this?

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« Reply #94 on: October 23, 2010, 09:13:26 PM »
The top and bottom part is right,,that side think is not, here is a jpg picture of it, it is not running in this pic. The time test ended on this around 2:00 pm,,so it runs less time then the one motor but recharges more, odd. Hope the pic is viewable,,it was on my camera. I would have got video but I got to get a firewire card it seems. I bought a dv cord, but thats for dv to usb,,my camera dont use that for video. Anyway Ill get a firewire card next month most likely. I have an older video camera that works, but video is not so grand on it.

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« Reply #95 on: October 23, 2010, 09:38:48 PM »
Ok I did something new,,the amp test with the digital meter, this is new to me as I usually dont do amp test. Like in the 1 cd motor, I know it works cause the readings are high on the rechargeable batteries and I can just swap the drained batteries with the recharged ones and repeat the experiment again,,and again several times. So I know it gets a real good recharge. I say Im using 1,5v batteries cause they look like them so I call them that. In truth Im using 1.2 volt batteries, they are BTY 2500 NI-MH batteries. I dont understand the amp hour readings here written on the battery but it says NH-AA HR 15/51 1.2V and below that it reads SIZE AA HR6 MIGON. Ok so I looked up how to do the amp test and doing an amp test on one of the batteries I just recharged in the 2 cd motor experiment on setting my meter on DCA 20m setting, with the red wire plugged into 10ADC it reads 2.28 and if I set the meter on 200m setting it reads 22.9 so what thet means I have no idea,,yes I still got things to learn lol. So I did do the big drain test on a recharged battery as well. What is the big drain test you may ask, I use a motor thats very big, it came from a very large remote control car,,one of those kind thats several feet big lol. The motor is like three inches long and 2 inches across, very heavy duty motor. It will drain a fully recharged battery from my plug in wall recharger in like 10 minutes,,yes the batteries get hot doing it this way to drain them. So like I said I did the big drain test on one battery I just recharged in the 2 cd motor experiment, started the drain test at 3:24 pm,,it ran the motor till 3:36 pm,,so it ran a good 11 minutes. Thats about average run time. Again the 2 cd motor experiment gives a better recharge then the 1 cd motor experiment, but I have no idea why!!

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« Reply #96 on: October 24, 2010, 04:33:48 PM »
Sorry if I did not read the complete thread due to so many other things on the bench. But I would like to ask one question. As the motor is turning is there any way to look inside the motor with a magnifying glass to see if there is any spark? Also, have you measured the mH of the motor?

Also, have you ever just taken one fully charged battery, put it on a non-modified motor to see how long it will run and feel the torque? Then one fully charged battery on the modified motor to see again how long it will run and feel the torque.

There is one form of energy that is not equated in this and that is momentum of the rotor. Since one commutator is removed, one of the coils will never be energized, so you are running it at half torque but using the momentum of the rotor to complete a rotation.

Sorry again if I butted in, but I like the simple idea of this.

My own belief in such commutator motors is not to remove a commutator but to find ways to add an extra brush set that is located just right beside one of the existing brushes so that when a commutator leaves the feed brush, it enters this new "bleed" brush to unload its flyback. That is where the energy is wasted. We feed energy to energize one set of many motor coils, then take it off line so the feed then goes nowhere.

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« Reply #96 on: October 24, 2010, 04:33:48 PM »
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« Reply #97 on: October 24, 2010, 05:16:39 PM »
Sorry,,you have missed alot by not reading the forum. But I understand there is alot to read. Yes I am now using a regular unmodified cd motor now. To try to make it short and sweet,,from beginning of forum to most recent. I went from using the modified cd motor which worked wonders at recharging the batteries, and ran around 12 hours or more to do the recharge, to using just a regular cd motor which worked a little better and ran around the same time,, to now using two cd motors one on top of the other wired in parallel,,with less run time but more recharging taking place,,if not even somewhere around 90% if not even a full 100% recharge in some cases, and there are times I would swear its even over unity when I recharge three batteries with two batteries. But I dont claim to be the expert on such matters as unity, I just tell it how it is or works,,what my meters show and so forth. And leave the rest to other experimenters to come to their own conclusions. But its all pretty amazing if you ask me. As to is there a spark in the regular cd motor I dont think so,,but there could be a tiny one,,as most motors would at least have that,,even if it cant be seen. Feel free to ask anything else..

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« Reply #98 on: October 24, 2010, 05:24:02 PM »
The third thing on my schematic or drawing is a cd motor.
That was what I understood from your previous explanation.

Now we can see the magic of adding a photo to an explanation.

It was a real cd rom disk and I understood a cd motor.

Jesus

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« Reply #99 on: October 24, 2010, 05:27:26 PM »
By the way my present experiment,,just a test here,,is I am recharging 5 AA batteries with 2 AA batteries,,the test has been running since 10:07 am this morning, its now 11:23 am and my meter shows the batteries being recharged already at 1330,,this is the DCV 2000m setting,,as I like to watch a 4 digit display reading to have a better detail as to where my numbers are going,,as to up or down. All 5 AA batteries that I am recharging were completely drained on the big drain motor,,your have to read back to get what that is,, then they were crossed positive to negative for a time to remove any remaining charge in them,,as I do my batteries this way as they seem to take on a better recharge this way. I will post the results of this experiment later,,it may or may not be as good as say my 2 on 2 bat experiment or even the 2 on 3 bat experiment,,but then again it might turn out well,,as the numbers keep rising.

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« Reply #100 on: October 24, 2010, 06:23:59 PM »
OK, one major thing here and it is very important to know. You should not leave your volt meter on the device. You should run the device for x minutes, then take a "quick" manual measurement then remove the meter terminals and let run for more minutes, and so on. The simple fact that if you leave the volt meter on the device, at the small volt gains or part of the gains you are talking about, could be (not saying it is), caused by the volt meter itself. Quick measurements is the only way to ensure such is not the case.

Also in such cases you need a comparison standard. If you take a 1.5 volt battery fully charged from a real battery charger, measure the volts then put a 1.5 volt bulb on it to see how long it will last. Then write down that run time. Then with your charged battery from the device, do the same test. In many instances such device charged batteries will show it holds 1.5 volts but it does not have the amphour charge of a regular battery charger. The bulb test will show you if this is the case.

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« Reply #101 on: October 24, 2010, 06:36:22 PM »
Yep knows,,rarely leaves the meter connected for to long. Also on the one cd motor experiment,,using just a regular cd motor,,not the modified one. I can run it around 12 or so hours on 2 aa 1.2v bats and recharge 2 aa 1.2v bats. Then I can swap the main bats when they drain with the recharged ones and repeat it a few times, swapping like that. Eventually it does run down doing it that way as each recharge receives less energy from some energy loss from the motor. But its still neat,,and first recharge is always almost a full recharge. I have did an amp test some post back,,you will have to look to find it,,sorry. I also ran one recharged battery on what I call the main drain or big drain motor. It is a motor from a remote control car,,these cars are like several feet long,, big cars. The motor from it is like three inches long and around a little over 2 inches width. This motor can drain a fully recharged AA battery from my "wall recharger" in like 10 or so minutes. I ran the same test on a battery I recharged with my cd motor experiment and it ran 11 minutes if i recall correctly,,you can read back on that post. So they are recharging well,,Ive posted numbers and such also back in the post,,its all in there. Now using the two cd motor experiment I get a fuller if not complete recharge but it runs like 4 or so hours,,sorry its alot to read in the post..

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« Reply #102 on: October 24, 2010, 07:13:18 PM »
So heres an update on my recent post,,2 AA bats recharging 5 AA bats for those keeping up with the post. The reading is at 1340 as of 1:13 pm so Im starting to think these 5 will take on as good a recharge as the other experiments did,,even if they are lacking some in the end its still a nice run here. But seems to be doing well so far..will post more later.

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« Reply #103 on: October 24, 2010, 08:37:07 PM »
Another update, 1345 on all 5 bats as of 2:22 pm,, thats not bad at all,,this run is not over yet. So we have 2- 1.5v bats recharging 5- 1.2v bats,,using the two motor cd setup,,will post more later..

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« Reply #104 on: October 24, 2010, 10:09:08 PM »
Update,,time 4:04 pm batteries recharging reading at 1352,, This run is really amazing me,,I would get readings around this number after a full run with the 2 bat recharging 2 bat,,1 cd motor experiment. But I have 2 bats recharging 5 bats in a two cd motor setup,,in this experiment,,if thats not over unity maybe I dont know what is,,either way its a very neat experiment,,and this test run is not over yet.

 

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