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Author Topic: My free energy experiment.  (Read 84672 times)

Offline stevensrd1

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Re: My free energy experiment.
« Reply #135 on: October 31, 2010, 02:10:19 AM »
No,,your design is breaking the series side which lowers the overall energy between the series and parallel, two batteries in series is stronger then two batteries in parallel. Thats what makes it all work in the first place,,its like a game of tug of war between the two positives, and the series positive is stronger, no matter how many batteries you have in parallel. The parallel batteries always add up to the same voltage, because all their positives are connected and all their negatives are connected, so they add up to just one battery, the batteries in series increase more and more with each added battery in series.

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« Reply #136 on: November 01, 2010, 01:00:36 AM »
I got a new experiment going, since some wondered if it would work on larger batteries or using higher voltages, Im using the one cd motor in this as well. Its the same design as posted back. Since I dont have 12 volt batteries to use, the next largest batteries I do have is the batteries in an old laptop battery. In a laptop battery depending on what kind, there are usually several batteries inside the one battery. In my old laptop battery it had 9 Li-ion cells of size 18650 which are 3.7v each.
So I took 4 AA batteries and am recharging 3- 3.7volt 18650 cells with them. 4 AA batteries total around 6 volts, where as 3 18650 cells total around 9 to 10 volts total. So like in the previous one cd motor experiment, I have the 4 AA batteries in series and the 3 18650 3.7v cells in parallel. I started out using the DCV 200m setting on the digital meter to check these 18650 cells as they recharged, but now since their voltages have risen to 3.47 volts I can no longer use the 200m setting on the meter, as I half to use the 20 setting now because they have risen in voltage so much. The experiment started around 3 pm earlier today and its around 8 pm now. The experiment is running well,,the cd motor is spinning the cd so fast its hard to tell its even spinning, by looking at it, yes its well balanced now, thats fast. Of course if you touch it, it will fling your finger off its spinning so fast lol. And as I said the three recharging 18650 cells are reading 3.47 volts,,thats a piece. So its going well, will write more on this later.

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« Reply #137 on: November 01, 2010, 07:02:09 PM »
Well it worked,,not as good as I had hoped however. But considering I was using old lap top batteries, that would not hold a recharge in the first place, this test will have to be redone at a later time.

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« Reply #137 on: November 01, 2010, 07:02:09 PM »
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Re: My free energy experiment.
« Reply #138 on: November 03, 2010, 09:56:48 PM »
Any updates on this Steve?
I saw a video on tube and i thought to post it here in case you didn't watch it.Looks like a similar concept.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01NCrEmodqs&feature=related

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« Reply #139 on: November 03, 2010, 11:05:01 PM »
Haven't really been messing around much lately with this, been doing other things. I still ordered a firewire card for my camera so I may redo some of these experiments sometime later and make some good video of it. As to the last experiment done on this forum topic, using lower voltage batteries to recharge higher voltage batteries, there are no updates. This part I reedited>> I could have used lower powered batteries such as 2 AA batteries to recharge a 12 volt lead acid battery, from what I read some years ago. The way this is done is pulse the 2 AA batteries through a transformer primary, while the secondary is hooked to the 12 volt lead acid battery through a diode to prevent back flow of electrons. You see it works by using high voltage yet low current, and such will recharge larger batteries, such as say a 12 volt lead acid battery, but it only works with lead acid batteries, from what Ive read! And it takes quite some time to trickle recharge the batteries that way, but it works and will recharge them fully. There is a bit of mystery as to the theory of how it works, but since it only works with lead acid batteries, Im sure it has something to do with how the lead and acid react with high voltage, even at low current. All that is nothing new by the way, tho few have heard of it.   
« Last Edit: November 03, 2010, 11:42:42 PM by stevensrd1 »

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« Reply #140 on: November 06, 2010, 12:57:39 PM »
I found another experiment Ive done recently interesting, Im going to mention it here,,then this will be the last one for this topic, since its already 10 pages long mixed with several experiments. Ill prob put this last one under another topic,,different name, eventually. So I bought a 12 volt to 110 volt inverter, it only handles 5 watts max, small thing all things considering. Anyway I powered it with 4 AA batteries and recharged a 9 volt battery with it. I used a rectifier on the 110 AC output side of the inverter, then the pos and neg of the rectifier went to the 9 volt battery. It recharged the 9 volt battery well in around 12 hours. So I thought it was neat and would mention it as the last thing for this ten pages..When or if I put this one under a new topic Ill add some pics and and stuff..

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« Reply #141 on: November 07, 2010, 12:00:28 AM »
So I tried it all without the cd motor, I just replaced the cd motor with 5 diodes in parallel, directing the electron flow away from the parallel batteries, and it all works the same, or better without the small drain from the cd motor. So its not the cd motor that makes it all work, its just the combination of series against parallel.. Kind of neat!

This thread is very interesting, thank you for all the posts and explanations.

The 5 diodes in parallel replacing the dc-motor is like the zenith of your experiments.

I would like to know how long the charging of the three batteries took in the circuit with the 5 diodes in parallel?

With the dc-motor (or the two dc-motors) the charging took many hours? Was it minutes with the diodes, or also hours?

I guess the charging stops once:

(Voltage over the two batteries in series) = (Voltage over the 3 batteries in parallel) + 0.8 Volt

0.8 Volt being the estimated Voltage drop over the diodes.

Greetings, Conrad




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Offline stevensrd1

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Re: My free energy experiment.
« Reply #142 on: November 07, 2010, 01:13:14 AM »
All the recharging took many hours, more like a trickle recharge I think. You can get faster recharge times using higher voltages, or should I say with higher current, as any AC battery recharger can do, but the methods I used for those experiments were of equal or even lesser voltages, which takes alot of time for trickle recharging, ranges vary depending on type of batteries,,and different setups used, as there seems to be alot of ways to do such. Sometimes up to 12 hours or a little more. Personally I like the last experiment, which to me worked very well and did recharge my 9v battery up fully, which I had previously drained completely. That was using the 4 AA batteries powering the 12v to 110v inverter.

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« Reply #143 on: November 07, 2010, 09:49:43 AM »
use supercapacitors...

no?

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Re: My free energy experiment.
« Reply #144 on: November 07, 2010, 08:27:43 PM »
I found another experiment Ive done recently interesting, Im going to mention it here,,then this will be the last one for this topic, since its already 10 pages long mixed with several experiments. Ill prob put this last one under another topic,,different name, eventually. So I bought a 12 volt to 110 volt inverter, it only handles 5 watts max, small thing all things considering. Anyway I powered it with 4 AA batteries and recharged a 9 volt battery with it. I used a rectifier on the 110 AC output side of the inverter, then the pos and neg of the rectifier went to the 9 volt battery. It recharged the 9 volt battery well in around 12 hours. So I thought it was neat and would mention it as the last thing for this ten pages..When or if I put this one under a new topic Ill add some pics and and stuff..

@stevensrd1

Did you happen to measure the voltage you were applying to the nine volt battery?
This may depend on the failsoft startup mode of the inverter and you may want to
take precautions with any other inverter. Most inverters will not start up on 4 AA
batteries = 6VDC, as they don't want to discharge a 12VDC automobile starting
battery too low.

:S:MarkSCoffman

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« Reply #145 on: November 07, 2010, 09:11:03 PM »
Yep,,it recharged the battery to 9.73volts and I redid it again today just for kicks, I took the battery off the inverter just to test the voltage and it now reads at 9.83volts,,and connected to the inverter, since its still recharging,,it reads at 10.00volts
I did completely drain the 9v battery on a small motor before this test until it ran no more, then I left it connected to that motor for some hours till I could not even get a tingle on my tongue from the battery. The 12volt inverter works at 6volts with 4 AA batteries. And fully recharges my 9volt rechargeable batteries. I did mention it is a small 12v to 110v inverter,,max 5watt, its small,the kind that fits in palm of your hand, plugs in a car lighter. While its working you can see its red light on dimly, and if you accidentally touch the ac output of the inverter as I have lol it will shock the crap out of you...

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Re: My free energy experiment.
« Reply #146 on: November 07, 2010, 11:25:12 PM »
Can you post a schematic of your charger configuration using an inverter?

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« Reply #147 on: November 07, 2010, 11:43:24 PM »
OH my,,Im not sure I can, I will post a few pictures, as to the schematic,,im not looking up the resistor colors and the the transformer has no markings on it, the board itself does have markings on it,,it says HYS-CA01 ZHONGMAOWEN. There is 13 components on the board, and I bought it on ebay. On the outside of the case it says car charging power converter Output 100v-240v limited for DC 12v car only, Ill post a pic of the front and back shortly.

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« Reply #148 on: November 07, 2010, 11:49:14 PM »
Here is a pic of the front of the 12v to 110v inverter.

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« Reply #149 on: November 07, 2010, 11:50:08 PM »
Here is a pic of the back of the 12v to 110v inverter.

 

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