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Author Topic: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR  (Read 252778 times)

Offline markdansie

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #75 on: February 27, 2011, 09:37:17 PM »
@Chet
I applaud their efforts but have seen nothing that would warrent a trip at this stage. i will await for the test reports but find it strange the way they are conducted. Why not as Rossi did put it on a bench (no Dyno's) and close loop it.
At this stage I believe it is smoke and mirros.
I have seen other devices visited by government officials and even with independent engineering reports...that amount to nothing.
I however will see how this pans out, but hold little hope.
There is overunity and it is being developed...but nothing that appears in forums
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #76 on: February 28, 2011, 01:34:07 AM »
@Chet
I applaud their efforts but have seen nothing that would warrent a trip at this stage. i will await for the test reports but find it strange the way they are conducted. Why not as Rossi did put it on a bench (no Dyno's) and close loop it.
At this stage I believe it is smoke and mirros.
I have seen other devices visited by government officials and even with independent engineering reports...that amount to nothing.
I however will see how this pans out, but hold little hope.
There is overunity and it is being developed...but nothing that appears in forums
Mark

The test reports are already out there and thus there is nothing to wait for.  COP is 2.7 for the MEG and the car is 132% efficient  from battery power demand versus power hitting the wheels. Most of the losses are due to the DC motor is only about 66% efficient. 

Just because something amounts to nothing doesn't mean it can not or does not work. Its only politics and not technical that prevents the public gaining access. Ismael must have listened carefully to the thousands of emails sent in recent weeks to make the technology open as a power supply only which should provide access to DIY systems ranging from 100 watts to 1kw will make them very affordable and is taking the option to go open source very seriously. Industry and commercial projects requiring high power of 5kw+ i am sure will pay him directly to produce specific power plants with a good cash flow will ease all his credit problems.  The technology will find its way into electric cars and electric bikes automatically as a result.

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #77 on: February 28, 2011, 01:49:20 AM »
The test reports have not been released. Remeber they found the hidden batteries and had to do a 4th test. I will wait for the official report.
Why not just do a closed loop bench top test..why a car?
there are many inconsistancies to take this seriously at this stage
Mark

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2011, 02:41:25 AM »
Complete test reports have not been released.

Remeber they found the hidden batteries and had to do a 4th test.

And here's a direct quote:

http://pesn.com/2011/02/24/9501772_Philippine_DOE_Verifies_Aviso_Self-Charging_EV/

Quote from: Philippine DOE Verifies Aviso's Self-Charging EV
Subject: Testing figure

Testing DATA 5

Test 1
Meralco: 1,300watts/ 6.4amps./ 223 V Dyno: 291 Newton / 570 watts
Aviso tech: 308 watts/ 13amps / 23.74 v Dyno :210 Ntwn / 418 watts

Test 2
Meralco: 2000watts/ 9.5Amps / 227V V Dyno: 455 Newton / 931 watts
Aviso tech: 306 watts/ 13amps / 23.6V Dyno: 210 Newton / 402 watts

Test 3
Meralco: 2,300watts / 10.98amps / 229V Dyno: 507 Newton / 1,100 watts
Aviso tech: 306 watts/ 13amps/ 23.56 V Dyno: 200 Newton / 389 watts

We drove outside about 100 meters & back again to LAB & again some testing; inasmuch as they found two sets of batteries 7amps/12V in front of the car. I told them that it was a supply only for the fan and microcontroller; but they didn't believe me; so we test again for the 4th time & confirmed no connection powering the motor & drops of volts & increase of current draw. Very minute draw of current only either on or off of the motor.

Note: Actual Average time testing of AVISO tech 5 minutes. Two minutes running allocated for the DYNO computer setting up.

Testing of repelling force.

6 times Conventional way of lifting a 1kilo coil & using conventional small 12V DC low speed motor.

Height : 12 feet
Average Time to reach 12 feet : 0.9 (corrected to) 9.0 sec.
Average Current draw : 0.93 amps
Battery : 12V / 24AH

FYMEGM repelling force by AVISO TECHN. 1Kilo coil

3 times repelling Battery start at 12.48 V end up 12.29V

Average Height: 26 feet
" Time: 1 sec
Battery: 9 V + 1.5V AA + 1.5 AA = 12volts

Note: I am not satisfied re: the Height reached, but I don't have time to adjust to full power.

I told them, Once I receive enough funding, the next test will be 110 Kilometers per hour & until battery it run down.

Ismael

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #79 on: February 28, 2011, 03:01:11 AM »
Ismael recieved a lot of offer from a billionaire to Big company. Here's several offer & condition;

1. Most of offer want His LAb to be transfer outside Philippine. Rejected. His stand Philippines or no deal.
2. Wants contract all Alt energy technology will exclusive  excluding Healthy Water technology . Rejected. Ismael wants every power capacity will be with individual  clause of contract. It means 50Kiwatts contract diff from 1 megawatts. Ecar Sedan type diff from Heavy Truck.
3. E car Value SRP will be agreed after determining the cost of mass production.
4. Production will be in the Philippines
5. He is the Boss n mass production
6. there some details with less important

He's taking His time , since His desicion will be based on group decision. Final decision after three months.
Sterling is a moving force why Ismael considering about Open source.

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #80 on: February 28, 2011, 11:35:41 AM »

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #81 on: February 28, 2011, 05:41:06 PM »
Complete test reports have not been released.

And here's a direct quote:

http://pesn.com/2011/02/24/9501772_Philippine_DOE_Verifies_Aviso_Self-Charging_EV/

They were just being thorough but those two little 7 amp batteries (like are used for backup in alarm systems etc.) wouldn't stand a chance of turning that big forklift motor with a normal hookup let alone moving the car more than a second or two.  They were just being used for the electronics of the 'box'. 

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #82 on: February 28, 2011, 08:49:01 PM »
So instead of opening the coil at the peak ala bedini to get a spike we short it?
Then maybe this is an idea
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #83 on: March 01, 2011, 02:12:34 PM »
I will add only, this what Ismael calls: the Repelling Force, is nothing other as tachyons (free gravitons) power, same effect as Biefeld-Brown. Only the technic is new, much more progressive and lighter. With this, he is only a step to make own electrogravity disc. I think Ismael knows about, but why he don^t wants to speak anything?:-)

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #84 on: March 01, 2011, 06:34:22 PM »
I will add only, this what Ismael calls: the Repelling Force, is nothing other as tachyons (free gravitons) power, same effect as Biefeld-Brown. Only the technic is new, much more progressive and lighter. With this, he is only a step to make own electrogravity disc. I think Ismael knows about, but why he don^t wants to speak anything?:-)

Actually Ismael will apply a Patent soon for a complete car that will levitate ,, Once He run the Car w/o Discharging

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #85 on: March 02, 2011, 02:23:59 PM »
Ismael technology is NOT open source. He is able to generalise upon the technology but only to a point of retaining IP rights to protect investors. ............

Exactly! and because he is going down the same path as all the rest, he will fail with out a doubt. Albert Einstein "Insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

The ONLY way free energy can be obtained by the people of the world is to NOT patent it, it is to NOT to seek millions of dollars....... Open source is the only way!

Don't get me wrong..... I would absolutely love for this to get out......... hell, even if Ismael patents it and charges $100k for it, I would gladly pay.... but unfortunately it will never get to this point...... history is the best teacher here.

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #86 on: March 02, 2011, 03:15:15 PM »
Last result he tested his MEG
MEG testing result 
Duration: Total of 4 hours 
Load: 800watts Resistive Bulb [estimate] 
Input: 12.8V 
Battery capacity: 6,000 watt-h. 
Battery remain: 12.7V 
Volts drop: After 4 hours =0.1 volts

I think reamined volt was not enough clalified. He could show the remained amp-hour of battery. Becase when battery is drained volt will decreased a little.

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #87 on: March 02, 2011, 09:00:25 PM »
Poit! What i remember You were against free energy, and now such a turn?;-]  When Ismael shows anything or makes it open source, he will be most silly man on this planet (or even in Universe;-)). I would like to pay him for this work done 500 mlns EUR in gold, cos it is a bargain simply said.:-)

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #88 on: March 03, 2011, 02:57:16 AM »
Poit! What i remember You were against free energy, and now such a turn?;-]  When Ismael shows anything or makes it open source, he will be most silly man on this planet (or even in Universe;-)). I would like to pay him for this work done 500 mlns EUR in gold, cos it is a bargain simply said.:-)

Ismeal open to serious offers now for quite some time. Not too many people come along with real serious cash but investors so far small project funds mostly from family and friends all need some money back now in difficult economic times. One or two billionaires  made offers but they never just want to hand over cash for technology advancement as its not about the money to them its about control. There are always painful strings attached.  What you end up with is something far worse than a Dragons Den offer!!

 As he said before offered to relocate to another country, retain only 20% shareholding, do whatever they want with the technology including shelf it or use on secret projects. Prevent any disclosure for least 15 years, sell your soul to the devil and lend out your daughters at weekends!

If you can handle these type of deals then sure you can be very rich indeed and the rest of the world will never see the MEG again.


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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #89 on: March 03, 2011, 02:22:03 PM »
Here are some more emails from Ismael:

2:30pm I check again the running MEG , but the brightness of the bulb a little bit dim. I check the batteries, I found the battery from 265v down to 254v . I check individual voltage of the 21 batteries. I found out Two Battery that was used to power my controller & other sensor down to 7.8v & the other one down to 6.2v. but the rest still  in the good level of voltage.

Replace it three times the 75AH capacity compared to the other 19 batteries24 AH. To accomodate the Microcontrollers & sensor drain. After the replacement back again to 261V &  back again to the MARATHON Testing of the household power genset of the future the MEG.

Ismael




We just bought a new tester.

Here's exactly my MEG set up. temporarily I have series of batteries up to 265V/ 24AH.( total of 21set of 12V batteries ) Since yesterday testing 4 hours same batteries.

I supply it to  the MEG resonator & my MEG output connected to a load of  2,000watts bulbs.

Today Since 10:15 am up to 1:40pm = 3 & 25 minutes running untill now. The voltage drop from 265v down to  260v.

This measurement of voltage while the MEG is running. Not when is power off.

The measurement between the power Off & On condition with 2 volts difference. from 265V at off condition & it will down 263 v if the MEG start.

If you will measure from off condition,, totally you will not notice the voltage difference & sometimes it goes higher to 270V.

The load not a exactly 2,000watts, but only 800watts since the volts accross the load only vary from 85v - 92v.

ismael



 batteries is 12V 24H Motolite AGM type. Bulbs 100watts 220V incandescent GE.

I swicth off my MEG at 5:45pm, I need to go for church activity. As well to ask more guidance & Blessing for humanity. Start from 10:15am,interrupted for 15 minutes & run again up to 5:45pm , Battery drops to 251v. So far so good I think I am more than 197% already. I will try to increase tomorrow, if give the chance.

Ismael

OK Guy's you can post now the video

Thanks

Ismael

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f36lPtGeybM


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