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Author Topic: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR  (Read 263653 times)

Offline norman6538

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2011, 03:14:33 PM »
I understand how the backemf makes higher voltage but how does
it make more amps or watts? It seems to me its just making the pie pieces (amps) smaller.

And then the air coil with the long bar magnet puzzles me too.
The air coil would have very low current out due to no core
flux concentration.


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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2011, 03:14:33 PM »

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2011, 04:03:20 PM »
I don't want to spoil the fun we have here, but applying GHz range oscillations with coils the size Ismael is showing in his video's seems a bit unrealistic to me.
Somebody at the Energitic Forum also mentioned that in one of the video's a co-rider of his car is joining a ride on his car and sits down right at the coil location. This would indeed influence the coil behaviour a lot if GHz range frequencies are applied. Will he cope with such alteration?

I want to be neutral here, but I wonder whether anybody else has similar observations.

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2011, 04:28:36 PM »
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2011, 12:42:15 AM »
RV is a teaching tool everyone needs to start somewhere. Here you learn that RF=RE as a simile where RF techniques are converted to Electrical Power engineering. Eventually it all comes down to RLC and tune tune and more tuning.  Here you will learn the importance of VARS where standing waves and power factor zero equate to an infinite VSWR. Within the TPU its a triple frequency stacked co-linear 3 phase solid state RV tuned to create infinite VSWR or PF zero or standing wave condition of immense VARS. This creates a partial singularity device which creates compressed gravity due to the singularity and time compression. For a 1000 watt device the VARS within the device will be around 10KVAR's

You also notice that the "gurus" of our history all most always start with looped motor/generator systems then later it becomes a solid state design. Kapanadze is a fine example of this. If you have a generator where a moving magnet or coil is just replaced with a stationary magnet and coil except now you just pulse it.  Then you find a way to extract the pulse without lugging. Several methods can be used  such as switching the pulse into a load cap then disconnecting the source. Or using bifilar windings to prevent self induced magnetic fields. This is kapandaze trick. Or short on coil pulse peaks creates harmonics of much higher frequency and of greater energy then the source pulse. By using a simple high pass filter you can literally syhon off the HF energy without disturbing the LF source frequency provides an anti-lugging generator. Magnacoaster technology works exactly the same except is using Bloch Wall modulation on carrier frequency and the excess harmonics are pulled off using High pass filter. Other methods include switching flux paths and isolating the source after pulsing creates excess energy from ferromagnetic resonance of the iron goes OU. This produces a MEG transformer typical COP is around 3.  Several people have done this from Bulgaria, Russians, Italians many people made this flux path switching MEGs and shown i/p about 1kw and providing about 3Kw o/p.

So here is the summary - there is nothing new under the sun its all basically what we already know but the tweaks are in the details. There is no need to work BLIND first accept that OU is real that takes most people about 10 years for the brain to activate. Then research the many methods and start building upon the things you know starting very small and make it bigger this is how Ismael made his electric car.

Classic TC method could use VARS, but load  in general is NOT resistor , its capacitor, which will not reduce huge Q factor of TC.
I mentioned this several times here but never had chance to replicate it.

we have TC Transm and TC Reciever.     TCT and TCR.

when TCR has resistor for load it lowers Q factor of TCR and also that way TCR affects TCT as load.

Why not using capacitor instead resistor, rectifier and capacitor. Voltage drop will be small on capacitor and Q factor will not be reduced much.  for example 10V 10F(just example) capacitor at the bottom of TCR in series to earth (using full rectifier), we can also use low turn coil instead.
This seems like perfect way of using reactive energy, of course charged cap must be disconnected before its energy we can use and replaced with empty cap.


Another well known crude way is after we increase  magnetic  field inside coil, we disconnect the coil from battery, and coil starts to natural LC oscilate, than we collect that energy by charging cap.


Than imagine simple coil like Tesla coil but not top capacity, just simple single layer solenoid. Every coil has its own LC natural frequency.

when voltage at the ends is maximum we short the ends of the coil and what we get ? we should get HF complex harmonics oscillation inside coil I presume, and only way to collect that energy is to have maybe center tap of coil, cause outer ends are shortened.

but this frequency should be EVEN higher than natural LC frequency of solenoid

Bolt please enlighten me :D

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2011, 12:53:20 AM »
Hi all my 2 cents

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5BxwkvCaIg
Good luck at all

Laurent

This is not natural LC coil oscillation shorting at its peak, its shorting of coil than with perm. magnet approaching affected. Shorting  such coil equals to opposite , it equals to free oscillation of coil when you open the coil. I dont think thats what the did, read my post above, but of course I am not sure, bolt will answer I hope. All in all it may harvest that effect in a way

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #50 on: February 24, 2011, 05:54:59 AM »
I've read through the posts here and there is confusion about that "large coil" he uses....

there are two different techs Ismael uses and is demonstrating in videos, and the "large coil" (1 kilo weight) seen in the videos where he blasts  blasts up in air with small battery 35ft high in under second is NOT the type or size of coil(s) he uses in his MEG (motionless electronic generator)

and the MEG is what he powers his car's DC forklift motor with and he doestn use the "repelling force/coil blasting" large type coil in his car.

he has old vidoe mabye two years old where he has car-motor he build that spins car wheel up in ari at 240VDC input from an invertor and input to invertor is 8 amps and 12V and the "output" from the pickupw winds is 15 amps and charging 12V battery - that motor he built has coils "similar" to the large coil-blasting video coils.

the many smaller size coils he uses in the MEG work very similar to HUBBARD method he tells me, and they are wound bifilar-style but with 6 wires  instead ... I think there are total of 200 coils in MEG  but not certain on that...he also has PICKUP/SECONDARY winds around the bifilar coils that pikcup and collect  the "ambient flux" from the large magnetic fields that envelope the resonate-frequency-chopped energized primary coils - pickup winds are actually inside and around the primaries.

In that large coil he blasts up in air with the repelling force, it is bifilar 22GA wires in primary, and 5 paralell 19GA wires on the scondary/pickup winds wrapped all around the primary - these pikcup winds are what give that coil its big size and weight


So he has many small coils in the MEG not one big one. in place of core, there is that inner coil and he says that at high frequencie this inner core works like  an iron core does at low frequencies

It doesnt really matter if someone sits near that anntenae obviously,  its sort of recent add-on feature and is NOT whre the power "comes from" it is jsut an additional thing he added on recently...he told me there are three Power supplies - there are
1)pikcup winds,
2)shorting of coils 5 times at peaks where the oscialltion peaks themselves get shorted - and this is how he gets the exponential power increase and this is the heart of the system..
3)also there is the backemf collection in radio invnterview he mentionn he combines the back emf with the shortingof coils to create a carrier wave and it become sdominate frequency and that is how the anntanae pulsl in power - its my meager opinon that the annatnae could not even be there and he would still be making the huge power he does from "Nothing" in the MEG using only the backemf and shotitng and pikcup winds but if he gets only 10W from anntane and his MEG has a gain of X1000 then that is 10W fiom anntenae so maybe it is some sort of prioming type of thing to feed his system...he hasnt discussed the anntane with me I dont know thatmuch about it but it worked fine when he didnt have one

also the discussion on mosfets not being fast enough I asked him about that awhile back and it is the mosfets are the initiators of the Rings via the shoritng of coils  at sinvewave peaks and it is the oscillations "created" that are the gigahertz speeds and the switches themselves do not have to go that fast....he has very advanced HF RF filters made for his homemade IGBTS
he callls them - filtered IGBTs - "FIGBTS" and without the filters his thing jstu wouldnt do what it does...he has team of topnotch computer chip guys build them for him...




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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #51 on: February 24, 2011, 06:01:15 AM »
correction - I meant to type 10,000W not 10W from the X1000 "gain" from his MEG if that anntanes sucks in 10W

figure it is putting out 5 to 6KW right now powering that car with the 60%eff forklift motor so the antennae maybe adds 20% increase?

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #52 on: February 24, 2011, 06:15:34 AM »
also tha video shown above of shorting coil with reed switch is good one, showing simply how to do it with genrator coils incuced by rotor of magnets (should be N-S magnets)...it is better to have FWBR AC LEGS across coil - and if making big power,also have AC cap in series from FWBR to work as high-bypass filter so no lugging at all of motor this way)
Also the power should go into cap wiht no resistance, then cap goes into load in 2 stage process - and cap is disconnected from coil when it hits the load - Ismael does it like this - his forklift motor has NO PLASMA AT ALL in the brushes because the pwoer feed to it is very very clean cl with no plasna/backemf problems burning up the brushes.

Anyways Ismels in his MEG has cap-diacharge that saturates his coils, and at the cap sarutation-point, that is when he hits it wiht the 5 shorts at "peak" which gives the expontnetial power increase AND with no reflecion back to the primary too

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #53 on: February 24, 2011, 06:58:03 AM »
here is scope shot in link below of air-cored coil being shorted at sinewave "peak-period"
this is from testing with a 1200rpm AC rotovertor motor spun generator-rotor of 6 large neodimium N-S magnets that makes the 60hz AC sinewave signal - note the "smears" of oscillations produced by the coil short.
Ismaels more advanced power producing method is he shorts those oscillation peaks themselves...also note the simple solid state circuits if any of you want to try some experiments:

http://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/shorting-coils-circuits

here is circuit I use in working motor-generator unit - note it doesnt have "2 stage" output - that AC cap in series working as "high bypass filter" made it non-reflective to motor draw all on its own:

http://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/upright-alternator-circuits



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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #54 on: February 24, 2011, 07:38:36 AM »
Hi, is there a peer review and journal for this prototype? Thanks.

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2011, 04:00:48 PM »
Ismael technology is NOT open source. He is able to generalise upon the technology but only to a point of retaining IP rights to protect investors. So while many many people of engineering background have visited his premises to see electric car and coil launching demos you will not see a full circuit diagram any time soon. Alike the TPU where general format of operation provided the details are missing. You need to fill in the blanks.

Basic principle of operation already shared as coil shorting technique. Only those with these attributes will take this a step further to developing a real OU device of substantial power. Ismael like others in this field have spent $100,000's in R & D and needs to recover this costs.

MONEY

FULL RF LAB setup

TIME

DETERMINATION

Probably requires RF/engineer trained with >20 years experience and strong understanding of OU/ZPE devices in general.

This means only perhaps a handful of people meet this attributes everyone else will have to wait.

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2011, 08:41:47 PM »
The Ismael radio show audio was very bad so i cleaned it up here on my site. Look on this page for the audio is much smaller and cleaner than original MP3 but its now open source OGG format. You may need VLC player to listen.

http://sites.google.com/site/silverfreeenergy/links

Bolt

Off-topic... so others please ignore.

Do you have the actual file for the simulator in this video out-2.ogv on your site?  A Spice file would be fine also if you have it.

Thanks
DonL


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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #57 on: February 24, 2011, 10:10:51 PM »
Bolt

Off-topic... so others please ignore.

Do you have the actual file for the simulator in this video out-2.ogv on your site?  A Spice file would be fine also if you have it.

Thanks
DonL

Yes, would be great,
if you could post the simulation files, so we could play
with oit ourself.
Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2011, 10:22:27 PM »
2 New emails from Ismael:

The  test Video result . The motor 11Kw powered by wall outlet or  conventional supply = 45% effeciency only & my Ecar technology  125%.

Repelling force Test. conventional lifting a kilo by means of ordinary low speed  motor up 33 feet & my repelling force 1:4 ratio. means if I consume 100 watts the conventional 400watts.

Video within few hours , but we made it in a fast forward mode. To see what happening inside the testing lab. 

heres  the link of my TV interview

http://gmanews.tv/video/74270/ub-filipino-inventor-nakadevelop-ng-self-charging


Aviso E car test result by DOE & DOST

   
Here's the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJW2On1E54


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Regards, Stefan.

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #59 on: February 25, 2011, 02:05:37 AM »
Bolt

Off-topic... so others please ignore.

Do you have the actual file for the simulator in this video out-2.ogv on your site?  A Spice file would be fine also if you have it.

Thanks
DonL

That circuit was originally uploaded for someone else during an Rotoverter discussion quite some time ago now. I just left it there as its my scratch pad site. So no i don't have the source files but you can copy it an reproduce it if you want to do that as long as i get credit for the circuit.  Someone made a SS version using 3 large 150 VA toroidal transformers and it he had it working to about COP >3 but had to stop it after the caps almost exploded over volts.  It design purpose is to run a 3 phase motor direct from DC supply using pure self resonance. The motor will run at its own pure optimal speed at extremely low power consumption.

If you want to play with the sim go here

 http://www.falstad.com/circuit/

Its a great tool and so easy to use. It can do a lot of basic circuit ideas but of course it can not SIM zero point energy or radiant energy....not yet anyway:)

 

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