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Author Topic: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR  (Read 259141 times)

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #135 on: May 23, 2011, 04:13:49 AM »
Hi All,
here are 4 new videos from Isamel.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rujb0T9jSng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXKN-aUAe6Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7C7YOetDY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKvR5OlLNDM



Ismael Aviso said, he was forced to make these video to answer all repeated question coming into his email everyday.

The last 3 videos will show you how & what is needed to accomplish the over-unity machine.

He gave 30% technical details & 95% basic principles on how to extract ambient energy..
Including what is inside the black box of his Ecar...

Sorry for the shaky amature hand video.

His original channel is here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ley858

I got permission from him to copy it to my Youtube channel as a backup.

Many thanks for Ismael to have come forward with the explanations how his great technology works.

He is a real genius.

Please support him.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #135 on: May 23, 2011, 04:13:49 AM »

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #136 on: May 23, 2011, 08:48:09 AM »
Not for to belittle, not for to vilify - just question:
Why so large batteries when current in milliamps  ???
Why not miniature cells series ::)
cheers,
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #137 on: May 23, 2011, 10:34:32 AM »
Hi All,
here are 4 new videos from Isamel.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rujb0T9jSng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXKN-aUAe6Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7C7YOetDY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKvR5OlLNDM



Ismael Aviso said, he was forced to make these video to answer all repeated question coming into his email everyday.

The last 3 videos will show you how & what is needed to accomplish the over-unity machine.

He gave 30% technical details & 95% basic principles on how to extract ambient energy..
Including what is inside the black box of his Ecar...

Sorry for the shaky amature hand video.

His original channel is here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ley858

I got permission from him to copy it to my Youtube channel as a backup.

Many thanks for Ismael to have come forward with the explanations how his great technology works.

He is a real genius.

Please support him.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.


nice radiant energy idea

powering low voltage power supply with low potential output
powering high voltage load output with high potential output


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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #137 on: May 23, 2011, 10:34:32 AM »
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #138 on: May 23, 2011, 01:26:06 PM »
Interesting stuff but he does not have OU yet.  If you listen to what he says he admits they are a long way from being finished and "needs MUCH more investor money" (alarm bells).  Anyone that has OU doesnt need money.

Few other things raised my eyebrows a bit, one of them being the amps consumption on the inverter.  That was 100% rubbish.  Those inverters are efficient but 'IDLE' (no load) at around 300Ma and he was trying to say on the video that it was only consuming 1Ma unloaded and around 5Ma when he shorted the cap??  No Way!

A custom built resonant circuit with the load fancily interwoven, YES you can get the current draw very low BUT he was showing a supposed direct connection from battery through amp meter to off the shelf inverter pulling 1Ma??

All he has at the moment is a tesla switch of sorts (which is what his black box does), this is how he attains the long run times with his electric car.  Remember folks...he is ALWAYS USING BATTERIES...lots of them.

TRUE OU YOU DON'T NEED THE BATTERY once the proccess is started.





 


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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #139 on: May 23, 2011, 03:53:10 PM »
Hi Stefan,

Thanks for the video updates, I have been following this ever since the start, and he does a pretty nice explanation of the coil shorting (in general). I haven't been on this particular thread lately but am curious to see if anyone addressed the following idea explaining why the coil shorting effect works.

I had thought about various scenarios that would allow power to be taken from a generator without creating a back-load on the armature (Lenz drag). It is the resulting current flow through the generator windings that is solely responsible for the amount of drag that is created in a generator (aside from magnetic attraction to the coil cores if they are metallic). One early idea I had was to simply wind the generator windings such that the output voltage would be very high, with a minimal current flow to help combat the induced drag force. However, the problem with this line of reasoning is that you must wind many turns of wire onto the coil in order to induce a high voltage output during generator operation. The added resistance of the winding reduces the efficiency of the power output, while the added number of turns creates a strong magnetic field, even with a much lower current flow. So in this scenario, the situation still appears to be of no benefit over low-impedance windings.

However, once introducing the coil shorting technique, one can immediately see some striking possibilities. For one, the coils used in this scenario are low-impedance coils as opposed to high impedance ones. When the coil is shorted at the peaks of the sine wave, high voltage spikes are created which can be AC coupled from the coil and rectified for use. What is striking about this is that even if the coil shorting operation itself does not yield excess power, it is a great technique to get a low impedance coil to ‘act’ like a high impedance one. So, if the current does, in fact, drop during the HV pulse transients, the current flow through the coil would be greatly minimized, and thus reducing (or even eliminating) the Lenz force all together.

The benefits of this are far reaching because the low impedance design means low winding resistance. Fewer turns means that the meager current that is generated has a much smaller impact on the armature due to minimal drag MMF production.

The same principle should work for a SS system as well, since less induced magnetic field means less loading on the primary circuit.

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #140 on: May 23, 2011, 04:39:02 PM »
TRUE OU YOU DON'T NEED THE BATTERY once the proccess is started.
Thanx for wake up ;D

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #141 on: May 23, 2011, 08:48:01 PM »
I think his mA ampmeter is indeed showing Amps and not milliamps as he also shows in his newer 3 explanation videos, thus the big batteries.

Jason please describe it in more detail what you mean please.
Do you say the coil switching currents reduce the input current into thr system?

Many thanks.

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #142 on: May 24, 2011, 06:31:25 AM »
Hi Stefan,

Here's some more information on my perspective.

Consider the case of a generator; as the magnets pass by the windings, there is an AC voltage induced into the windings, whose magnitude generally follows the equation EMF = -N*dΦ/dt where,

EMF   = The induced voltage
N      = Number of coil turns
Φ      = Magnetic Flux Density

So in a standard generator, the induced voltage is directly proportional to number of coil turns and the speed at which the magnetic field is changing. While keeping these principles in mind, recall that Lenz Law is in effect here because the minus sign designates that the induced field is oriented such that it is in opposition to the inducing field. As mentioned before in my previous post, this opposing field only manifests when a current is allowed to flow through the windings.

However, there is one other aspect of this scenario that is not talked about nearly as much. That is the idea of mechanical impedance matching. For example, consider a simple experiment with a magnet sitting on top of a pulse coil. When a pulse is fired such that the fields repel eachother, the magnet jumps; the height of the jump is directly dependent on the amount of current flowing through the coil, and the length of time that the pulse is on.

It can be observed that if the pulse width is decreased, the amount of force, that the coil has on the magnet, mechanically is reduced. If the voltage is raised substantially while the pulse width is reduced substantially, the amount of power input to the system can have the same effect on the magnet, despite the fact that more energy is dissipated through the coil.

So in other words, if we put, say, a 50V pulse of 1 ms into the pulse coil, lets say that the magnet jumps six inches. If we want to increase the input votlage to the coil, but keep the jump height of the magnet the same, we simply reduce the pulse width. I have done many simple experiments along these lines and what you will find is that as you increase the voltage and decrease the pulse width, you need more power to make the magnet jump the same height. Which means that at higher voltages, the pulse applied force faster than the magnet could absorb it mechanically and react. Anyone can try this simple experiment and see it for themselves in action. It works particularly well if you use air-cored coils so the effects of core saturation don't complicate things.

This idea can, likewise, be applied to the generation case also. If, somehow, one could decrease the time in which the induced energy moves through the coil, the effects of Lenz’ Law could be substantially reduced because the mechanical impedance matching between the moving magnet and coil could be minimized. Meanwhile, a larger and larger amount of energy could be transferred through the coil while having the same effect on the magnet. This simple mechanism could very well be the secret of the coil shorting technique.

One other aspect of this, which could also substantially reduce the impact of the Lenz force, is the oscillations created during the shorting action. The following explanation will be illustrated using the attached figure at the bottom of this post.

When creating a series of coil shorts, the waveform is approximated as a high frequency sine wave oscillation superimposed onto the larger induced EMF from the generator magnets. If we assume that the rising edges of the high frequency oscillations represent negative MMFs (Magneto-Motive Forces), which drag against the motion of the generator, and the falling edges of the waveform represent positive MMFs which aid in the motion of the generator, we can see that these two MMF’s can actually cancel eachother out assuming that the respective magnitudes of the fields are about equal.

What this essentially means is that any of the High frequency oscillations, resulting from the coil shorts, would have little to no impact on the mechanical drag of the generator. This, coupled with the fast, HV nature of the spikes, creates a mechanical impedance matching condition whereby the rotor sees almost no loading from the generator coils, no matter how much power is drawn.

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #143 on: May 29, 2011, 07:03:56 AM »
Interesting stuff but he does not have OU yet. 

yes he does its already been tested by DOE and DOT engineers on the electric car. System has a COP of 2.7

If you listen to what he says he admits they are a long way from being finished and "needs MUCH more investor money" (alarm bells). 


There is always work and money required to complete projects. Free Energy is very expensive:)



Anyone that has OU doesnt need money.

How did you work that out? No one gives a hoot if you have 1 watt OU or 10,000 watts. The days of investors coming fast to support free energy devices has long gone. Even Steven Mark had problems with investors on his TPU back in the late 80's and early 90's



Few other things raised my eyebrows a bit, one of them being the amps consumption on the inverter.  That was 100% rubbish.  Those inverters are efficient but 'IDLE' (no load) at around 300Ma and he was trying to say on the video that it was only consuming 1Ma unloaded and around 5Ma when he shorted the cap??  No Way!

Amp meter in mA is now measuring AMPS across calibrated shunt



A custom built resonant circuit with the load fancily interwoven, YES you can get the current draw very low BUT he was showing a supposed direct connection from battery through amp meter to off the shelf inverter pulling 1Ma??

All he has at the moment is a tesla switch of sorts (which is what his black box does), this is how he attains the long run times with his electric car.  Remember folks...he is ALWAYS USING BATTERIES...lots of them.

TRUE OU YOU DON'T NEED THE BATTERY once the proccess is started.

Not true you can have a COP of 10 but mostly impedance matching and voltages offset prevents o/p returning to i/p to close the loop. The minimum you need to loop is COP >2 PLUS system losses

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #144 on: May 31, 2011, 04:52:52 AM »
Hi, BOLT

Looks to me U know all of Ismael doing. Can U technically describe how come Ismael pulse the 1 kilo Electromagnet up to 33 feet ? Don't forget he is using small battery. I want to know that. 


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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #145 on: May 31, 2011, 05:23:09 AM »
Hi, BOLT

Looks to me U know all of Ismael doing. Can U technically describe how come Ismael pulse the 1 kilo Electromagnet up to 33 feet ? Don't forget he is using small battery. I want to know that.

I believe it is called a "repulsion coil".  My guess is it is a combination of shorting the battery for a moment of time, and the consequential effect on aluminum within his coil...   ;)

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #146 on: May 31, 2011, 07:24:24 AM »


I helped Ismael do some demonstrations for some SAAB execs in Sweden two summers ago - we were doing that "repelling force" where he knocks a 1 kilo weight coil up in air about 33 feet up in air in under a second... do the math if any of you want to, how much horsepower or watts that would require.

Anyways, there is an aluminum tube that the coil shoots out of.

Any iron within a few feet of the repelling-force system will throw off the resonance!
So NO iron or ferrous steel or ferrite etc is involved or can be involved.

There are two coils: one faces up, and sits at bottom of the aluminum tube.
The other lays on top of it, and it gets shot up into air when the coils are both energized with bucking fields against one another (N against N or S against S dont know which)
Ismael has a very special "cascading DC" circuit where he fills up a 7500VDC cap in a few seconds from ONLY a small 9V battery (200ma) and also a couple 1.5V  AA batteries too, in series, since his system was designed for 12V, and going to 9V would throw off the resonance.

Ismael told me that there is a bifilar 22GA wire coil as the primary of the coil; the "insides" of it, and then there are 5 paralell strands of 19GA wire "pickup coil" wrapped all around the primary, and this large pickup wind is what gives the coil its large shape.

IT uses VERY LITTLE power to hit that coil up that high. Nobody else is even close to what he can do with the repelling force energy.

This is NOT the MEG tech - this is different thing, the "repelling force" tech.

With that small battery-pack, he can do the coil-blast 16 times, (sixteen!)and the 9V/twoAA batteries will drop in voltage from 12.4VDC at start, to 11.8VDC after those 16 repetitions....you can figure watts-consumed by the battery voltage-drop as a general estimate of the watts-input requrired to shoot that coil up in air 33ft 16 times.....I dont know how long the actual high=frequency pulsing to the coils lasts - maybe 1/10th of millisecond just guessing - dont know...

I think he uses coil-shorting to recycle the power from the pickup coil back into the cap but not really sure about that, just guessing on that too but I know he shorts "something" 5 times at the "peak period"

I asked him do you short the primary, or the pikcup/secondaries and he said it doesnt matter and laughed...(!?!) so go figure on that...

also he told that the pulse that drives that coil up in air is also "resonate chopped" in that it is a very high frequency chain of pulses - he gave me an analogy of if you want to shoot through some steel, and you fire one large bullet at it with huge gun, that one bullet probably wont make it through, but if you fire 10,000 very tiny bullets in a second with very small gun you will rip right through the steel.
Anyways if you do the math on how much electrical power is consumed and how much "mechanical" power is created in the force to drive that 1 kilo weight coil up in air its very much overunity (mabye 100 times?)  and obviously using this power to drive large flywheel with big generator on it is one way to produce kilowatts of power from practically nothing.


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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #147 on: May 31, 2011, 07:33:39 AM »
Hi, BOLT

Looks to me U know all of Ismael doing. Can U technically describe how come Ismael pulse the 1 kilo Electromagnet up to 33 feet ? Don't forget he is using small battery. I want to know that. 


see:

http://science.net84.net/magnetic-generators/magnetLauncher.WMV

from

http://science.net84.net/magnetic-generators/generatorY.html

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #148 on: July 09, 2011, 12:03:26 PM »

I think he uses coil-shorting to recycle the power from the pickup coil back into the cap but not really sure about that, just guessing on that too but I know he shorts "something" 5 times at the "peak period"

I asked him do you short the primary, or the pikcup/secondaries and he said it doesnt matter and laughed...(!?!) so go figure on that...


When producing primary pulses on resonance state.. shorting secondary on peaks (spark discharge on HV) would be answer to question why it does not need so much power do work. Right Pulse on Right Time is the answer to everything... :)

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Re: FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR
« Reply #149 on: July 31, 2011, 04:22:21 PM »
I hate to be a downer here but I cannot see anything special about any of this.

The repelling power is simple. he takes a low voltage, 6-12 volts, inverts it to a high voltage. stores this in a capacitor, (actually a bank of capacitors) and then releases all that energy in a very short period of time. this then propels the weight skyward.

If I could see a demonstration of him doing it with a AAA battery then I'd be impressed. but I am guessing the AAA claim is a case of 'chinese whispers'

If you want to see another fun example of the sort of force you can generate with this very very simple setup, look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiIlQIe5Qs8

One other claim in the series of claims is that "shorting of coils at peak amplitude (top of sine wave)" One statement was that this and a capacitor is blocking Lenz's law. Sorry but that is dreadfully wrong. it is BECAUSE OF lenz's law you get the very high voltage spike.

Here is a video which shows the basic operation, it was linked earlier in this thread. watch it and then come back...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRyKVU6YzYw

In the video the presenter admits he has no clue as to where the voltage spike comes from. that's an admission he doesn't know what he is talking about.

The answer is simple and if he showed you the accurate timing of the closing and opening of the reed switch you would see that the high voltage spike occurs not when it is closed but when the reed switch opens.

So what is happening?
The rotating magnets induced a voltage in the coil. we see that when he runs it without the reed switch connect. some 2 or so volts. this is normal it is a generator. nothing special there.

Now he connects the reed switch.

Now what happens is he shorts the coil at the 'peak' remember at this time the coil is generating about 2 volts. What happens is that voltage drives current through the coil. It has to go somewhere and the only place is into itself. this builds up a magnetic field around the coil, IN ADDITION to the one provided by the magnet. In fact if the reed was left closed it would stop or slow down the rotation of the magnet in line with Lenz's law. (The extra flux actually opposes the flux from the magnet, but as the overall result is the same and its more confusing to describe it that way I will describe it as if it is additional, OK?)

But that's not what happens. What happens is the reed switch opens. Remember the reed switch also shorted out the neon. Its impossible for the 90 or so volts to be generated across the neon while the reed shorts it out, when the reed is closed. Anyway, as the reed opens the current in the coil stops flowing. This current was supporting the 'extra' flux around the coil. Well it can't flow anymore because the reed switch is now open, So the flux starts to collapse, and in line with Lenz's law a voltage is induced to try to prevent the collapse of that flux. But because of the open circuit no current can flow. Therefore the voltage rises, and dramatically. until the neon breaks down and starts to glow.

Now the neon doesn't glow very bright, why is that? well he mentions the reason. Because the reed switch is burnt! Its burnt because the extreme voltages cause the air between the contacts to ionise. Thus current flows and that current burns the points. Reed switches are only designed for low current, low voltage applications ( I am sure there are exceptions), they can't hack the punishment given it by this very simple example of back emf generation.


Lastly how much power does this method produce? Well in the last part of the video it becomes clear. Go back to it when you finish reading this. The presenter does not draw attention to it because I am sure he is totally unaware of it.

A voltmeter, particularly a digital voltmeter has a very high input impedance. Which is to say it draws an extremely small amount of power. If it didn't it could not accurately gauge the correct voltage. in the last part of the video it shows the 20 or so volts across the capacitor discharge very rapidly. you can watch it drop in seconds. Why is that? because the cap contains very little energy. don't forget the diode prevents that energy leaking back into the coil so it is dissipating through the voltmeter (and a little through the diode). He used a totally wrong cap as well and may have stuffed it.

This is very elementary to anyone who understands electronics. there is absolutely nothing new here. Certainly nothing extraordinary.


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