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Pirate88179

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #600 on: December 26, 2008, 11:34:44 PM »
Troy Cory is the grandson of Nathan B. Stubblefield.
He is the secret keeper of WNBS which was Nathan B. Stubblefield's radio station
But now Troy Cory has his own TV talk show.
Watch the following 2 video's they explain it all.
Very interesting find.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uqNSCdJP2Og
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bbD8Y_n6VNM
It's quite a heart warming story.
Troy Cory was the first American talk show host to speak in China.

We talk about the Stubblefield earth battery but all should know he is the father of the Cell Phone.
He built the first wireless telephone even before radio was invented, imagine that!




AbbaRue:

I posted your video links over to my earth battery topic.  I also found a few more and added them.  We did a lot of background research on Stubblefield in the 2 earth battery topics and I learned a lot.  I only live about 2.5 hours from his old farm here in Kentucky.  great stuff.

Bill

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #601 on: January 06, 2009, 05:05:31 PM »
Hi,

I hope people are still making the baked batteries! IMO, this is extremely important research.

Just thought some people would be interested in my dead alkaline battery tests -->

http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/forum/index.php?topic=73.0


I've theorized that common batteries can only drain to a certain level, given the proper setup of course. All matter consists countless microscopic diodes. The bond between two different atoms forms a junction. Albeit, it could be a poor diode, but all diodes rectify to some degree *at all applied voltages.*   Semiconductor equations clearly shows that diodes must rectify at all applied AC voltages. This is known as the Diode Square Law. I and many others have confirmed this simple conventional law. I've applied AC voltages, microvolts, and my diodes still rectify. If you use common diodes, then you'll extremely sensitive equipment to verify this.

Anyhow, when you place thousands of such natural occurring microscopic diodes in-series, then the DC voltages aggregate. These DC voltages can be used to regard the dead battery. Therefore, it is theorized that ambient thermal energy recharges the dead battery. Theorizing beyond that is difficult, but IMO the test should consist of a continuous cycle of allowing the dead battery time to rest/recharge, following placing the dead battery under the appropriate resistive load, and repeating the cycle over and over.

Also, if you have a sensitive enough equipment, you could detect a slow drop in temperature in such a test. I have built such a circuit. If anyone is interested enough to build it, then let me know and I'll take the time to draw the circuit and post it.

PL

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #602 on: January 29, 2009, 06:48:10 PM »
Little update on my experiments here;
I have perfomed a number of experiments attempting to
bake artificial Tourmaline with a focus on the deep infrared
sensitive types. Obviously for use as pyroelectric material
in a type of Crystal Cell (polycrystalline ambient energy battery
if you like that name better ;)).

I have made powder-based mixes containing the exact right
ratios of several different elements (and subtle variations of course),
have baked some as simple moist powder sludge, some
after pressing them into a clay mold, some pressed in dry form
others pressed in moist form others plain wet like paint,
some slightly more acidic, others slightly more basic,
and all at temperatures ranging from 900 degrees C up
to 1200 degrees.
None of them were baked in a rarified or oxigen-poor environment,
none of them were baked at any other pressure than sea level norm.

So far I have been unsuccessful in producing pieces of artificial Tourmaline this way.

I am pretty sure this has to do with mostly the relatively low pressure,
and perhaps also a little bit with the presence of normal air inside the oven.

I think this will conclude my series of Tourmaline baking tests,
and am considering revisiting the artificial Tourmaline experiments
at a later date, when I have had the opportunity to modify a
pressure cooker for high pressure saturated solution experiments.
I'm just a little weary of self-adapted high pressure vessels that
need to go on high temperature with a high acidity solution in them...
Better also make sure there's some containment for when the thing blows. ;)
Actually, simply growing some in such a setup should not be too
difficult, but I'm planning to try some polarisation experiments at the
same time and that would need some kind of power feed into the
presure vessel... So if anyone has a good idea for doing that fairly
safely, I'm all ears. :)

Regards,
Koen

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #603 on: January 30, 2009, 04:52:29 PM »
Keep up the good work Koen!

On my forum I've been posting periodic updates on a long term 12V n-size battery that has been shorted for months. The tiny 12V was considered mostly dead from start of the tests. Anyhow, the goal was to see if my theory was correct that a battery shorted for a certain period of time will hit a bottom level. Once the battery is at the bottom level, ambient thermal energy (that exists in all matter all the time) can maintain the battery by cycling the battery. What is meant by cycling the battery is that the battery will be used (loaded) for a period of time, then allowed to rest (unloaded) for a period of time. Over time, while cycling the battery, the average battery temperature will be lower than room temperature.

PL

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #604 on: January 30, 2009, 04:55:07 PM »
Oh, I forgot to say that it appears (although unconfirmed yet) that my 12V n-size battery has hit the bottom level. Over the past ~ 20 days it's remained unchanging in DC current, which is around 2 to 4 nA DC. The DC voltage is a bit higher than 100mV DC.

PL

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #605 on: January 30, 2009, 04:58:42 PM »
It would interesting to get about 12 of my dead n-type batteries, place them in-series, connect that to an LED. It would be so cool to see the LED never go out. Then do some data logging on the light level to see if there are any patterns in the light level over the months.

Even more important experiment would be to monitor the batteries temperature relative to room temperature. Buried somewhere on my other computer is a circuit that measures down to at least 1e-5 Kelvin!  If anyone would build this circuit then I would find the circuit and post it.

PL

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #606 on: April 12, 2009, 02:43:39 PM »
Gday all,
yep I'm still around.
3 months of crap in my life has slowed things up a bit, but I'll have something to report soon.

Hi to jeanna, koen and bill.

Be back soon

Ian

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #607 on: June 16, 2009, 07:09:39 PM »
I everyone. I spend the last few weeks reading stuffs on these Crystal Power Cells and I'm really interested to take part in those Open Sources Researches.

I'm preparing an ingeniering degre.

I can't find the last "correct" ingredients and "potocole" you used to create your cells.
(with 60 pages it's too complicated to find the correct one again)

Can anyone help me?
I hope we'll do great job togerther  :)

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #608 on: August 31, 2009, 11:30:35 PM »
It's a bit sad to see the work on the crystal batteries slow down so much. My diode research has now drifted into Crystal research because it's believed to be caused by the same effect. Most diodes are made with monocrystalline or polycrystalline silicon, both crystals. A EE, by profession, has successfully replicated my diode research, and during his research discovered that piezo elements also produce DC power. The experiments are conducted in heavy metal shielding. Measures were taken with an electrometer. His piezo produced over 3 volts, and up to 0.4 uA. That's not much current, but then again it's a wafer thin element. Also, I believe there are a lot better materials than piezo's.

Another commonality with piezo's and diodes, besides both being made with crystal materials, is there's a built in electric field. In diodes it's caused by the contact of two different types of materials at the junction. In piezo's it's due to the polarized ferroelectric material, which is often quartz. What's interesting, perhaps coincidence, is that the best piezo so far has produced ~ 10 tens DC voltage as the best diode, and the piezo electric field remanence is ~ 10 times higher than the diode. This electric field is not referring the any voltage one might apply on the piezo. It's the built in electric field due to permanent polarized dipoles in the polarized crystal.

All ferroelectric materials has coercivity, and thus an electric remanence. A permanent electric magnet if you will. That's what an Electret is. My recommendation is to use material that has the strongest electric field remanence as possible. Some key words to google search on would be -->

* ferroelectric
* hysteresis
* remanence
 * Ec
* electret

To learn more about this try WikiPedia, which actually describes a very simple way of making an Electret. The key is applying the electric field while the material is melted.

Here's part of an email I sent to someone who has worked on the Crystal batteries, and with Marcus Reid -->

http://globalfreeenergy.info/2009/08/31/crystal-battery-email-exchange/

Please contact me if you find any good materials with high electric remanence. My email is found at my above blog site. IMO, it's not much longer before someone finds material that will produce over a watt of continuous DC power. Marcus Reid crystal batteries have been producing ~ a milli watt for ages. Maybe his newest batteries produce a lot more. Lets hope.

Regards,
Paul

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #609 on: September 01, 2009, 01:40:07 AM »

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #610 on: September 01, 2009, 03:17:01 AM »
What kind of heat is required to jump in on this project and finally what is used to do this heating ...

I am curious...

Ok so melt and let set for 3 weeks that is a start surely but...

What are some examples of hardware used to make these batteries the heating of the material (device used)

Container what is a good container and how do we contain the material.

Finally a basic design over all less the material of the battery enclosure would be nice.

Links to places we can purchase all of the battery casing parts would be excellent!

Anyone care to really make this a project and add this information for testing ...

This is what is lacking a basic structure of everything I guess for now it don't matter if it is flour that is powering the battery but we need to know the battery case makeup as well as how and what to use to melt the material!

Last but not least when do we charge how do we charge and with how much voltage and current?

Thank You

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #611 on: September 01, 2009, 05:16:00 AM »
There are some videos at youtube making Electrets. Only mistake he makes is he supposed to melt the stuff and then apply the electric field. He makes the simple Electret type as described at wikipedia,

"Bulk electrets can be prepared by cooling a suitable dielectric material within a strong electric field, after heating it above its melting temperature. The field repositions the charge carriers or aligns the dipoles within the material. When the material cools, solidification freezes them in position. Materials used for electrets are usually waxes, polymers or resins. One of the earliest recipes consists of 45% carnauba wax, 45% white rosin, and 10% white beeswax, melted, mixed together, and left to cool in a static electric field of several kilovolts/cm. The thermo-dielectric effect, related to this process, was first described by the Brazilian researcher Joaquim Costa Ribeiro."

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #612 on: September 01, 2009, 05:29:27 AM »
@Paul L
Thanks for the recipe. I had not seen that before.
I wonder if I could pulse the high voltage with better results
Oh dear, I see the winter is approaching and I may be setting up more crystal pots!  :D

@infringer,
I used cut down aluminum soda cans. I was using an aluminum base and it seemed to work (except I was also using the alkaline sodium carbonate which released the H2 and  could have dissolved my soda can . but only a little!)

Ian's best performer was made in a cigar tube. He is from AU and the cigar tube might have been AL also, but it is in the records here. It is not in my head still.

jeanna

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #613 on: September 01, 2009, 03:23:39 PM »
Hi jeanna,

Pulsing will work, but just as long as there's also DC. I don't know if the extra AC (pulse) will help or not. It might help. Also, I don't know if there needs to be actual electrical current flowing through the mixture or if the electric field from two surrounding plates is sufficient. I'm guessing that the several kili volts / cm is an electric field, not from current because the mixtures resistance at high temperatures is probably low resistance, so in order to maintain actual 4KV across a 2 cm wide substance would probably produce over 100000 watts. Although, maybe a few amps of DC current would help.

A scientist I'm working with has asked a University for help in making ultra high Pr & Ec Electrets. So we'll find out. My best guess is to use only DC electric field with perhaps a small amount of AC, and maybe a small amount of electrical DC current.

If you guys want a great voltage meter with ultra high input resistance then look into the AM-240. New it costs ~ $40.  Although the goal here is probably to get a battery with low resistance. It's still unknown if high Rz is a key to high DC power in these batteries.

Regards,
Paul

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #614 on: September 01, 2009, 04:59:39 PM »
It might be interesting to try to form an electret
by applying a high voltage field to the Castolite
Lucite plastic casting polymer while it is hardening.
I have always unsuccessfully tried to find purchasable
electrets for experimenting, independent of audio
devices and air filters. It's as if the common audio
devices like microphones and earphones have suppressed
the availability of stand-alone electrets. I mean
one wouldn't want to have an overunity device
actually in use, you know.


>Also, I don't know if there needs to be actual electrical current
>flowing through the mixture or if the electric field from two
>surrounding plates is sufficient.

No, I think it's the pure electrostatic field that aligns the
domains, like in a capacitor. It essentially a "frozen"
charged capacitor.

:MarkSCoffman