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Offline mrbr00k5

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #945 on: November 16, 2010, 02:55:04 PM »
@Koen
Hi Koen, great to finally hear from you! So you've been off working on radioactive generators or something huh, sounds like a typical day at this forum! ;D Great to have you back on this thread!
@All
I've been needing to post an update on what's going on with my projects, but I've been so busy lately, and today is no exception, but I'll try to get an update posted within a day or so, hopefully sooner. ;)

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #945 on: November 16, 2010, 02:55:04 PM »

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #946 on: November 18, 2010, 11:48:28 PM »
G'Day all.

@Koen, good to see you back mate. The cell that looks to be working is 4-2009. Come the 9th of December it would have been running the digital watch for a year. I measured it's voltage in September and it was 1.149 volts and supplying 25uA to the watch.
I believe the watch has a lot to do with the longevity of this battery. It seems to be feeding back a 32Khz ripple across the cell, may even be stimulating it. Anyway I can't see this cell packing up anytime soon.

My health issues have returned unfortunately and that has slowed things right down but as you may have seen , there are some very cluey guys on here keeping things rolling along.

I have just measured the pyrite cell and that is 0.195v and the sulphur cell ( we all remember that one  ;D ;D) is at 0.275v . these cells are over 3 years old now.

Should I get back to building again I will be concentating on a Marcus Reid type doped semiconductor unit. I did have some success with zinc oxide as the dopant ( nice band gap).

Anyway thats it for now, good to hear from you again Koen. Keep in touch.
Regards  Ian.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #947 on: November 20, 2010, 11:40:32 PM »
@mscoffman
I just noticed in an older post that you were first to recommend calcium chloride, that was a good call, it works quite nicely in crystal cells. ;D

@All

Hello everyone, time for an update! First off, my little blue led box is still working quite nicely. And my crystal cell flashlight is still working quite well. I've included another picture of it.

I've been making some efforts to put several cells together into one. So I took apart a 6 volt lantern battery, and built crystal cells out of the 4 zinc cylinders inside. Then I put it all back together, and wired them in series. At first it was putting out 4 volts at 3 milli-amps, then it suddenly died, like overnight, bam, after all that work...  :'( I still believe this idea can work, I have some single cells I made from the interior cylinders from a lantern battery that are working just fine. So I must have messed something up with the cell formula for these 4. I've included some pics of the lantern battery and cells.

I've also included some pictures of a new heavy-duty rock crusher I built. Some of these crystals were starting to get the better of my wrist.  ;D I just went to a home improvement store and messed around with the steel plumbing pipes until I got it to fit together like you see. I just pour the crystals or rocks in, and start pounding! :D

My latest cells are sitting in my room, and I have them shorting out, to try and make sure that they are going to last, and not die suddenly. I'm planning on building another flashlight with another D size cell I made using the formula below, this light will be like the one I've already built, except it will be smaller and more compact.

I finally got some new materials to build with too, Yay! Based on the performance of the cells that I have made so far, then my best and most reliable mixture is as follows.

Ingredients: Barium Titanate, Green Tourmaline, Iron Oxide, Titanium Dioxide, Calcium Chloride, Alum (Potassium Aluminum Sulphate), Sodium Silicate.

The average output I get with this mixture is about 1.2 volts 1.1 Milli-Amps, that is with a zinc negative and carbon positive. I know my ingredients list does not have the amounts, I'm going to buy a small scale that will let me measure out the precise weight of ingredients, but I haven't yet.

Now naturally the big question is: Does this mixture produce a genuine, never going to quit, crystal cell?

Honestly, I don't know. All I can say is, it has lasted under constant load for days on end, and can be left on a dead short, but then cycles right back to it's original voltage once the short is removed. No matter how I've poked and prodded it thus far, this mixture has given me no reason to believe as of yet, that it is not a true crystal cell. However, I think the only thing that can tell you for sure is time. Which is why I'm going to put this cell in a flashlight, which will keep it under constant load, forever. And I'll be able to monitor how it's doing over time simply by flipping the light on. Because if that joule thief ever quits recharging the super-cap, with me using the light regularly, it's not going to be long before the light simply won't turn on.

You can find some info on the cell that is powering my current flashlight, on page 59 of this thread. It was made on May 31, 2010. At first I had it running a joule thief, then I got the idea for this flashlight. So all together it has been actually powering something, day and night for roughly 5 months. So it looks pretty encouraging to me that this is the real deal, just like Ian's cell that has been running that watch.

Oh, and one little oddity I noticed, I don't know if it means anything but, I included a picture. When I add crushed emerald to the mixture above, it gets all frothy...and just kinda strange looking, I don't think it affected it's output any, but I just found this odd.  ???

Anyway, get well soon Ian, and take care everyone! ;D

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #947 on: November 20, 2010, 11:40:32 PM »
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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #948 on: November 21, 2010, 09:18:34 PM »

@mscoffman
I just noticed in an older post that you were first to recommend calcium chloride, that was a good call, it works quite nicely in crystal cells. ;D


I did? - calcium chloride is a "salt" used for de-icing. Which is ok, as it probably
has a nice crystalline structure...but it is also readily soluble in water and humidity
is water, so it would make the cell hygroscopic...so one would want to make sure
that no water gets into the cell via that route. Don't forget the carbon rods are
porous too.

One way to keep that from happening is to use a plastic coating, immediately
after a bake-out. I always thought this one looked interesting:

http://www.plastidip.com/home_solutions/Plasti_Dip

One could pour a little in the top, let it harden and then dip the cell top and
carbon rod connection. This should keep the water out for sure.

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Other than that, your voltages and currents are still high and sweet. Lets hope
they don't go away when atmosphere is excluded from the cell. Thank you for
your recipe information too.


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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #949 on: January 01, 2011, 11:29:41 PM »
Hi everybody! Wowsers, what's all this activity about?
Last time I was here it was just me and one or two others...

hi Koen

good to see you back on the forum again

you were kind enough to comment on some of my work, a couple of years back, with my switched charge experiments

i've built on the previous work now with the addition of knowledge gained over the last couple of years on capacitor self-charge, galvanic action and thermal generation of electricity

i've also tried to incorporate some ideas suggested by your paper: 'The Secrets of Classical Electrodynamics'

specifically, i've attempted to create a section of convergent/divergent current in a pulsed-power circuit in conjunction with a stored charge reservoir (in my system, a battery)


i can see that there are some similarities between my recent experiments and the cells in this thread, although it's clear that i've followed a slightly more conventional dissimilar-metal, galvanic, route for producing voltage cells

it appears that after a few days 'burn-in' at ambient+10 degC my latest system is able not only to self-sustain lightly-loaded operation with a LED flasher circuit, but also to gradually increase the stored charge in the cell whilst on load

the on-load terminal voltage of the cell has gradually increased from an initial value of 1.6V, on Dec 8th, to its present value of 1.9V (whilst varying a few % with the daily ambient temperature cycle)

my interpretation is that the system is now converting thermal energy into electricity, in the voltage cell, if not also the main buffer capacitor

i'd be interested to hear your thoughts, if you have time to look at the experiment info at this thread:

  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10174.msg269055#new


many thanks - and all the best with the hush-hush stuff!
sandy


« Last Edit: January 02, 2011, 12:26:40 AM by nul-points »

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #950 on: January 04, 2011, 12:16:21 PM »
G'day all.

Just a quick update.  On the 9th of December 2010 cell 2009-4 had been running a watch for a whole year. Happy birthday cell 2009-4  ;D ;D
I measured the terminal voltage in July and it was 1.147V. In December the voltage was slightly higher at 1.154V.
I am confident that this cell will see it's 2nd birthday.

@mrbr00k5   Wow! good work mate.

All the best for the New Year
Regards Ian

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #951 on: January 04, 2011, 07:58:02 PM »

Hi Ian, thank you for the update!

@All

Interesting Article here;
Web Link to an article on the unusual Romanian Karpen’s Pile Battery;

“Karpen's perpetual motion machine now sits secured right in the director's office. It
has been called "the uniform-temperature thermoelectric pile," and the first prototype
was built in the 1950s. Although it should have stopped working decades ago, it
didn't.”

“The 'Karpen's Pile' has one of its electrodes made of gold, the other of platinum,
and the electrolyte (the liquid that the two electrodes are immersed in), is high-
purity sulfuric acid."

http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/20101227/karpen-039pilebattery-produces-energy-continuously-since-1950-exists-romanian-museum.htm

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Sounds a little bit like the organic acid batteries where the electrolyte
is not powerful enough to adversely affect the electrodes. While the
electrolyte is powerful H2SO4 in this case, it is still apparently no match
for the anticorrosion properties of the two metals used in the electrodes.


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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #951 on: January 04, 2011, 07:58:02 PM »
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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #952 on: January 31, 2011, 05:12:33 PM »
@ Ian:'G'day mate! :) Sorry to hear you're having health problems again (or still). Perhaps you should try some Ormus, easily made from sea water... Some people claim it really has beneficial effects.
But it is good to hear you're still tinkering with the Cells a little. :)

@ mrbr00k5: Very nice looking cells there! I also like the way you try different combinations and mixes of
ingredients, your reasoning at least seems to go a long way in the right direction. :)
I'm not entirely sure about a few of your ingredients, since for example calcium chloride is typically very
hydroscopic and will absorb and retain a lot of water (from the air moisture alone even)... and I have the
idea that we want to try and keep the cell free of water to make sure there's no common galvanic/electro-
chemical reactions taking place, since that would render it another chemical battery.
Oh, LOL I just noticed that MScoffman said the same thing about calcium chloride :)
Still, you're clearly quite actively experimenting with Cell compositions and in my opinion that is really good.
Keep it up and let's hope you find a mixture that produces huge output forever! :)

@ null-points: Thanks! and I shall certainly check out your thread to read up on your work. The switched
charge stuff was interesting so I'll see what you've worked out in the mean time. :)

@ MScoffman: I noticed the Karpen Battery popping up recently too. Indeed, it seems like the sulfuric acid
is electrochemically active enough to act as a battery electrolyte, but not reactive enough to actually corrode
the gold and platinum electrodes. Now it just so happens that gold is indeed not corroded by sulfuric acid, nor by
hydrochloric, nor by nitric acid. These are typically the strongest acids around, and they tend to corrode other
metals easily. To corrode gold, a special mixture of hydrochloric and nitric acid is required. The Platinum metals,
on the other hand, tend to corrode easier, and they easily corrode in those other acids. Seems to me that the
Platinum might corrode, but the gold will not, in the Karpen sulfuric acid. So there can be no galvanic reaction
taking place between the gold and the electrolyte... Which I suspect results in a surface reaction with the Platinum, that "wants to" give up its electrons and surface atoms, and while the thermally active electrolyte
is eager to take up the electrons (which can be shared and distributed throughout the medium by thermal excitation and brownian movement), the atoms that might come loose from the platinum surface probably
"fall" back to it. I suspect those act as tiny oscillating charge-carriers on the boundary surface, never really
"coming loose" from the platinum surface. And I suspect the entire thing is driven by thermal energy contained
in (and absorbed from the environment by) the acid solution.
That's just a rough preliminary guesstimate though.
Since the device apparently needs the tiny motor to continuously make and break the connections to each
of the two seperate cells in the Karpen setup, and since mention is made of the required "break" time to recharge
the cell between discharges, there also appears to be much similarity with Electrets.
After all, an electret also builds up a charge, which can be collected by connecting the electret to a capacitor or
something alike, and after that the best option is to disconnect the electret again and allow it to build up its
charge again, before taking it off again. In that respect, the Karpen setup could actually be an electrostatic
battery... And since I cannot find any mention in any of the sources of the output being a continuous DC, I am
starting to suspect it indeed is a static charge source and not a current source.

Oh right,
@everybody: I may be slow to reply in the forum as I don't have much time at the moment, but if anyone wants to discuss or ask anything you are always welcome to send me a PM here. Those always get forwarded to my email account so I will certainly get them, and will reply if possible.

All the best to all you guys (and gals), and
Keep up the good work! :) Free Energy Revolution!

Best regards,
Koen

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #953 on: January 31, 2011, 11:59:11 PM »

My supsicion is that the Karpen cell is actually a cross between an
acid/metal storage battery and and Infared Pickup Sensor that is
charged up during the day by solar infrared energy coming through
the roof of the building and which it is stored in the weak battery
rather then a continous Maxwell's Demon operating from statistical
mechanical heat energy. The gold/platinum would make a weak
electrolyte battery - even if the electrolyte is chemically relatively
strong, while the metals themselves are similar to metals pairs found
in IR cells. It seems like that would work.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #953 on: January 31, 2011, 11:59:11 PM »
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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #954 on: February 16, 2011, 03:38:26 PM »
G'day all,

Bill.  It did cross my mind about making a solar heated array from these cells. I've had the 19-2010 cell at a constant temperature of 58.5 oC ( 137.3F) for 24 hours now and it's output current hasn't budged from 442uA ( 0.44mA).  I will increase the temperature later today and see how it goes. To early to say with the few data points I have whether or not the current rise is linear with increasing temp.

The next step of course is to go back and look at all the past cells ( 428) to see if they have the same characteristics. That will be a job and a half.

Here is the listing for this cell:
0.25g copper oxide (black)
6.5g   pumice
6.5g   tourmaline
4.0g   iron pyrites
1.2g   iron oxide  (red)
15g    sodium carbonate

Crush everything to a fine powder (wear face mask). Add water to make a thin paste and then cook the crap out of it for 3 hours. Notice that no sodium silicate was used.
The chemical reaction during cooking produces the silicate.
Standard Al tube but used a 3mm silver brazing rod for the +ve.
This cell needed time to dry and set so be patient.

I'll be back soon with an update.
Cheers
Ian

For those of you working hard on crystal battery, John Bedini  has opened a new door
with his mg/carbon/alum crystal battery
All the ingedients to this stack of cookies is ready to go.
It is too soon to know exactly what form the tiny crystals will grow in the moist clothe
between the graphite and the magnesium. Even though his initial voltage is .75V per cell
and getting 17V output and able to run a super bright. The cell will go decrease.
replication does not require guess work. i believe the molecular hex magnesium structure
will influence the tiny alum crystals and the moist but not wet clothe along with the outer
plastic casing keeping out CO2 is the equation to this new pile.

see bedini earthlight light on nrgetic 4um page 1 video 6

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #955 on: February 24, 2011, 07:56:04 AM »
John Bedini's Cement Crystal Battery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgeK02lN7hs

"In this video I explain how we made the Cement Battery and the chemicals used to dope it. We have done some things different in the way we made the copper electrode. The materials we used are:
Portland Cement 85%
Tin Oxide 2%
Zinc sulphide 2%
Carborundum 10%
The Battery after drying all night in a controlled Magnetic oven
is holding at 1.5 volts at over 100Ma continuous current. When the battery
depletes it self you just let it sit and it comes right back and runs the oscillator again."

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #956 on: April 21, 2011, 01:35:57 PM »
I may find out how john H made his crystal battery.I am the only person selling barium titanate on ebay right now.My nick on ebay is slowrowboat i have 141 pounds of barium titanate left to sell.John H is near me and is buying some of my barium titanate today and i hope he will tell me how he made his cells.I know that one of the parts he used is zeolite.this is used in oxygen generators.More to come.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #957 on: April 22, 2011, 12:28:51 AM »
fisheye;
I appreciate that you make available the materials for the crystal batteries.
It would be nice if JH would contribute to the cause with intellectual assets .
It is my experience that by releasing information that more information flows.
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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #958 on: June 23, 2011, 07:08:22 PM »


                                           === ATTENTION EVERYONE ===

John Hutchison has given out the information of what is in the cristal power cell


Step by step instructions on how to build a crystal power cell, developed by John Hutchison. FREE ENERGY. Hutchison is in the process of open sourcing ALL his technologies.

PLEASE PLEASE CONTACT ALL ON THE FORUM AND CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO LINK.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #959 on: June 23, 2011, 07:19:18 PM »
Thank you.

Bill

 

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