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Offline ian middleton

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #930 on: August 31, 2010, 07:25:59 AM »
G'day all,

Bill.  It did cross my mind about making a solar heated array from these cells. I've had the 19-2010 cell at a constant temperature of 58.5 oC ( 137.3F) for 24 hours now and it's output current hasn't budged from 442uA ( 0.44mA).  I will increase the temperature later today and see how it goes. To early to say with the few data points I have whether or not the current rise is linear with increasing temp.

The next step of course is to go back and look at all the past cells ( 428) to see if they have the same characteristics. That will be a job and a half.

Here is the listing for this cell:
0.25g copper oxide (black)
6.5g   pumice
6.5g   tourmaline
4.0g   iron pyrites
1.2g   iron oxide  (red)
15g    sodium carbonate

Crush everything to a fine powder (wear face mask). Add water to make a thin paste and then cook the crap out of it for 3 hours. Notice that no sodium silicate was used.
The chemical reaction during cooking produces the silicate.
Standard Al tube but used a 3mm silver brazing rod for the +ve.
This cell needed time to dry and set so be patient.

I'll be back soon with an update.
Cheers
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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #931 on: August 31, 2010, 11:39:42 AM »

any one see this Bloom box?  Sorry if off topic.   Was on 60 minutes sunday.

"Those two blocks can power the average high-consumption American home -- one block can power the average European home. At least that's the claim being made by K.R. Sridhar, founder of Bloom Energy, on 60 Minutes last night. The original technology comes from an oxygen generator meant for a scrapped NASA Mars program that's been converted, with the help of an estimated $400 million in private funding, into a fuel cell. Bloom's design feeds oxygen into one side of a cell while fuel (natural gas, bio gas from landfill waste, solar, etc) is supplied to the other side to provide the chemical reaction required for power. The cells themselves are inexpensive ceramic disks painted with a secret green "ink" on one side and a black "ink" on the other. The disks are separated by a cheap metal alloy, instead of more precious metals like platinum, and stacked into a cube of varying capabilities -- a stack of 64 can power a small business like Starbucks.

Now get this, skeptics: there are already several corporate customers using refrigerator-sized Bloom Boxes. The corporate-sized cells cost $700,000 to $800,000 and are installed at 20 customers you've already heard of including FedEx and Wal-mart -- Google was first to this green energy party, using its Bloom Boxes to power a data center for the last 18 months. Ebay has installed its boxes on the front lawn of its San Jose location. It estimates to receive almost 15% of its energy needs from Bloom, saving about $100,000 since installing its five boxes 9 months ago -- an estimate we assume doesn't factor in the millions Ebay paid for the boxes themselves. Bloom makes about one box a day at the moment and believes that within 5 to 10 years it can drive down the cost to about $3,000 to make it suitable for home use. Sounds awfully aggressive to us. Nevertheless, Bloom Energy will go public with details on Wednesday -- until then, check the 60 Minutes sneak peek after the break."


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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #932 on: August 31, 2010, 02:10:27 PM »
@all

you guys dont mind if i try some of the mixtures from earlier on in the thread ive found that some of them have uorked uell for me and  i uould like to try them for myself keep up all the good uork every body the gallium germanium rochelle salt pyrite and it variants sound interesting im going to try some like ians and jeannas and others as i have uorked toolong on just silicate cells and i feel i have reached thehighest point in those and not just that but id like a change from those cells i have over 50 cells that uork uell but they are massive and some small ones that are more pouerfull than the big ones and some that are small voltage uise but still uork they uere allmade in the same uay to get out as mutch moisture as possible i sealed them uhilst still in the dehumidifying box ith ater free solvents epoxies

@ian

have you tried holding one of your nrochelle silicate cells to a scource of static electricity ie a tv to see if it increases? has anything interesting happened uith the cell is it electrostaticlay pouered? uat types are there ie piezo'pyro'microuaves(mine) ect and uat are ue aiming forin our pouer cells uat should ue be looking out for?
   

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Offline das aloda bullspit

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #933 on: August 31, 2010, 02:13:59 PM »
I uonder uat happened to those other guys? they all just semmed to have stopped posting and uats the deal uith the raving madman on page 61-62 is he fo real?

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #934 on: September 01, 2010, 05:44:52 PM »
uat about your cement plaster of paris cells are they still uorking and are they a real crystal battery or galvanic uat does the analysis sho up against normal batteries uat do you think is happening ie petro electric reactions ect ect in those particular types of battery? can u give me some tips to louer galvanuc reactions in these batteries and also uat materials can you use to louer galvanic effects in these cells

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #935 on: September 01, 2010, 08:56:33 PM »
@das,
Please keep doing your work and posting your results.

I have noticed many people have left this forum in all threads, so never mind.

I remember the plaster of paris was a good one, but needs more. I think it lost power after a while, but I am sure it shouldn't and just needs more work.

I am watching what you are doing. I think it is very interesting.

Please continue,

jeanna

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #936 on: September 02, 2010, 11:55:10 PM »
@ Everyone

Hi everybody, I haven't quit coming to the thread. I've just been really busy lately. And my piggy bank is a bit on the empty side to say the least. :-\ As soon as I can get some more supplies I plan to keep trying to improve my cells. Here is an update on some old ones. First, my sealant cells are unchanged, I really do not expect them to ever stop, but they are pretty low power. Usually around 300 milli-volts. I'm going to try and make some more powerful sealant cells, once I get more ingredients.

My chalk cells, are a mixed bag of results. Some are still working, but most have dropped quite a bit. I don't think that they are a very good mixture. I would avoid using calcium carbonate as the main ingredient in crystal cells. I haven't noticed any corrosion or crystals developing on any other cells besides one of my sealant cells and my Lepidolite cell.

My lepidolite cell, as I said before corroded through the zinc container, and white crystals formed on the exterior of it. But I just checked it, and surprisingly it's still outputting 200 Milli-volts. The amperage though has dropped below usable levels.

The lepidolite cell is the one I was using in my little blue L.E.D. box. Since it stopped working, I've replaced it with a AA size cell using calcium chloride. It's been working well for over a month. The duration is about 5 seconds, if I hold the button down, the blue L.E.D. comes on brightly, then gradually dims, over about 5 seconds, finally going out completely. Then, I let the button go, and count to 10, and I can repeat the 5 seconds of light, over and over.

I've included a picture of the hole in the zinc on the Lepidolite cell, and a picture of the type of sealant I use.

Finally, the very best news that I have, is that the flashlight I built is still working. I've left it on to drain the super cap a few times, then turned it off, to make sure it's really charging. An overnight recharge is sufficient for the L.E.D. to be pretty bright, but I would say about 36 hours is needed for a full charge.

Das, you were asking about do any of the cells get hot when shorted. And no, mine never do, I've never noticed a crystal cell get hot, no matter what I did to them. I find it really interesting that the cells respond to lightning strikes, like Ian mentioned. That cell that you hit with 4 million volts sounded really interesting too Das. What I'm interested in is that it seemed to draw energy from other crystal cells.

In T. Townsend Brown's notebooks, which can be found on rex research and qualight systems, In Volume 4 he has an entry titled, Re-Emmision of radiant energy by masses. It mentions a theory he had that rocks were connected somehow, and could absorb and re-emit energy, from one another. Maybe you could check that out and see if any of it sounds interesting, or applicable to what you're doing.

Oh, and just a quick suggestion, has anyone tried powering a S.E.C. Exciter with a crystal cell? Perhaps in the near infinity light system configuration, which needs very little power. I would like to see what would happen.

So anyway, that's about all that's going on with me right now. I hope I'll have something more interesting to report soon. Keep up the good work everyone. ;D

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #937 on: September 04, 2010, 03:45:46 PM »
good to see that nearly all cells are uorking the best voltage i ever got from a cell as not 4 volts as that uas a measurement erro it uas 0.4 volts uell .4 volts i had one that did the 6h volts it gave off a static uen you touched the cell it attracted alot of dust but it then uent to normal in half a yer but the most pouerfull cell ever i made uas 2.55 volts and 23 micro ampres or close to that but here is the bad side it uas as big as a small uorlduar 2 bomb because it uas i had that hooked up to a calculator not lcd but a led 70s one and it ran for a hole ueek before it ran out and can still do so today. these uere large prototype cells i got an update about hutches cell so far he hasnt found a investor but one firm uas realy interested in them a small green company and i think he is going to hand the crystal cells over completely to his pupils and let them get on uith it i have seen some materials uat he uses but i havent got a clue uat they are he uoldnt tell me  id ont live near him its all found out  through online chats and his research group is grouing quite rapidly but its a private research team apparently but from uat i sa in one cell it looks similar to some of ours also uen polarizing have you thought of using a hotplate uith a alu plate ontop and uilst its still hot connecting the alu plate to the positive or uaterver and uraping the rod in alu foil and attaching to the negative or uater that could uork i guess  hope to hear more about your neu cells as soon as they get built remeber sent some photos and to all ive said it befor and ill say it again good uark and keep it up

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #938 on: September 04, 2010, 03:57:53 PM »
the rversed cell uas really interesting the crystals uere grouing outf the container it almost seemed to suck the energy out of everything and you couldnt even realy red it on a voltmeter it also one three occasions managed to destabilize the matrix in these cells enogh to stop tem from making any energy i polarized thet cell in an accidentally strange uay that caused it to go like that ive tried to get one like that and guess uat no matter hou  and uat i do i simply cannot replicate it and nou it lost in a scrapyard or a rubbish tip better uatch for the neuse mysterious electrical shortages comming from a battery if crystal batteries ever uent global and mainstream this cell uold be like like cyanide to the cells verry feu bounce back after bieng near it this could be a terrorists dream disarming systems uithout bombs and thy ouldnt be able to trace it back at all

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #939 on: September 13, 2010, 04:21:58 PM »
@all

Hello Has there been any updates in your cells,and could u send photos

@ian

are you feeling any better? those sulphur cells... hou does the sulphur help to stop gakvanics and could you give me the mixes that used sulpur?

@mrbrook
hope your alrite heard about mone crisis hope your doing ok keep me updated on your cells asuell as the sealant cells im comparing yours to mine and the results are similar have any of you tried taking a piece of basalt or granite and connecting it to a voltmeter and reading to see if there is any vltage? i did uith some koolau basalt and lanzaroti gabbro the basalt had a rerading of 0.4 volts and 1 micro amp i can be sure that it uasnt piezoelectric or pyroelectriccos uen i heated it uith a hair dryer to get ri of any moisture i put it in a moisture  free box and connected the leads to the rock via a metal strip glues to the outside of the bx and the electrodes on the basalt uere both copper i notaced it uas ramadam as deufraise told me and i notaced through these dsay and nealy a ueek the basalt has been fluctuating specialy at night i connected a loda and it ran stilland the voltage had only gone doun by a millivolt do you think taht these lumps of rock could be like  natural crystal battery also ive noticed some thing that others havent it reacts to static electricity and it sometimes pulses at 1mghtz or something like that i think its 1 mghtz its a uierd effect

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #940 on: September 13, 2010, 07:54:18 PM »
@ Das Aloda Bullspit

Hi Das, I have tried poking different rocks with a meter. I don't have any granite, but I can get a small reading on a piece of pyrite. I've got a C battery size cell in the freezer right now, I scraped together some pyrite and stuff I still had laying around and made another cell. I also made another sealant cell, I was truing to get more power out of it than my other sealant cells, which I did, but it's still rather low, at first it was over a volt, then it dropped slowly to about 400 milli-volts. My other sealant cells all hover around 300-350 milli-volts, so I guess it's something to do with the sealant that I'm using. This new cell puts out about 120 micro-amps, which is better than my previous sealant cells. Also, something interesting has happened. I have a little joule thief in my bedroom, which is being powered by a crystal cell I made back in May, if I remember right, but I've had it hooked to this joule thief for about 2 month's now. A 47 Micro-farad capacitor is in parallel with the cell, it fills then discharges, which makes the L.E.D. Blink. Just recently the blinking speed has tripled, which means the crystal cell is putting out more power obviously. It has continued blinking faster for about three days now, and is still going strong. It does seem that crystal cells get better with time! So anyway, Keep up the good work! ;D

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #941 on: September 21, 2010, 03:13:47 PM »
@ mr brook uat is the cell that is pouering the jou.e thief uith the 47 cap made from is it the same as your sealant cells or is it something else? also the neu sealant cell youve made uat have you added to it is it the same as the others or is it using a different sealant? is there any neu mixes you uold advise? and finaly the cell that flashes the blue led for 5 seconds is that still uorking? try stacing up the sealant cells to see if the voltage goes up and also try to measure resistance do ue kno uat the ideal resistance for these cells is? thankyou

@ian
could yopu post some photos of the best performing cells running loads ie clock or something else and some individual pics of some of the cells that uere shoun on page 28 please and also i heard youve made some neu cells hou are they holding out are tey any good and your cement button cells do they still uork also they could be used just like a uatch battery if you did it right en ue find the right mix these could replace the kinetic uatch and the atmos uatches i have a feub cells that are just basalt and granite uith similar electrodes soldered on to them ie copper + and copper- these produce about 0.2-.04 volts around a bombshell size if only there uas a efficient voltage amplification system to triple the voltage as its neraly luays stable exept near the vernal equinox they start to do uierd things the basalt cells they get mutch ueaker maybe that is uat moray used or something..oh and also the r salt and sodium s cell hve you tried some of those experiments i said does it have a linear increase in pouer to temperature ratio?
 
@all keep posting results on your cells and pictures and information ue can only realy improve on things uen ue share ideas amirite?

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #942 on: September 25, 2010, 03:02:18 PM »
@Das Aloda Bullspit

Hi Das, the cell that is powering the joule thief is made of three AA size battery containers, which are zinc and they have a carbon rod. I wired them all in series, and taped them together. Here are the ingredients: Pyrite, Bornite, Bixbyite, Concrete, Plaster of Paris, Black Tourmaline, water. Just add enough water to make them concrete and plaster harden. I have observed the voltage output going up while this cell is under load, so I'm hopeful that this is a real crystal cell, I leave it powering that joule thief day and night.
I tried connecting two sealant cells like you said, and the voltage did go up.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #943 on: September 30, 2010, 02:41:59 PM »
G'day all.

Not much to report at the moment. The series of heat tests on cell 17-2010 finally killed it.  Although it still puts out 10uA at room temp but barely gets to 90uA when heated to 70 oC. I think thats because rochelle salt doesn't work if it is melted too many times.

When I get back to building again I'll be working on a 2 component cell, that is only 2 ingredients. I've had a lot of time to think about this and I'm sure I'll get some good results. I'll keep you all posted.

@mrbr00k5 and Das,  keep it going guys.

catch you later.

Ian

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #944 on: November 16, 2010, 02:41:47 PM »
Hi everybody! Wowsers, what's all this activity about?
Last time I was here it was just me and one or two others...

Hey, and Ian is back too! :) Hi Ian!

So, what's been happening since I popped my head in the door last time? ;)

Has anyone else managed to produce a working "crystal cell" yet?

Mine are still in storage but when I last tested a few they were still working.

Sorry to have been out of sight for so long, but there was all kinds of stuff going on.
And for a while I couldn't really surface as I was involved with development of a
device that needed to be kept hush-hush. you know, legal issues and all. Sorry to
say I cannot divulge any more about that one, aside from the fact that it did work
but is not going to solve our global energy crisis just yet.
Recently have been involved in a small and secretive group working on Tritium-based
power supplies, some very nice output there. But of course our national and inter-
national governments will not allow private persons to experiment with such stuff,
so that will most likely not see the marketplace for another decade or two at least.
(Not that it is really very dangerous at all, nor very difficult to handle such material
properly. But Tritium is "radioactive" so govts tend to get a hissing fit when they hear
about it. Sad, really, because it's actually a very good and clean power source...)

But back on topic, how's the Crystal Cell replications coming along people? :)

Kind regards,
Koen

 

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