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Offline Nihilanth

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #915 on: August 11, 2010, 04:39:42 AM »
Why is it that megalomania and inability to form a coherent paragraph seem to go hand-in-hand?
Why don't you 'release the whole code'? I can guarantee that you won't be suppressed, because you clearly just want attention.

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #916 on: August 11, 2010, 06:00:55 AM »
Some say im better when im drunk
the reason im not releasing the key is the 666
is a mason his name is marco rodin
nimrod in the bible im the chief prince of meshech
ezekial 39
so i have string theory and the key of david but its not for sale
why because m rodin his dad is our top nuclear scientist
and we lost every war since his dad took us into veitnam
after my grandfather went to geneva treaties
my grandmother so his feet are like a bear
the biggest russian plane our patent office
is veiwable by russia and emenient domain
takes patents so heres the list
I already declined haliburtion its not for sale
so what do i get well they choped my leg off
they injected me with mrsa
cancer and wiped my memory with dr fortenance
hit me with hypnotism downloaded me like the monkey who speaks 63 words
hit me with narcan 4 ml to my heart
arrested me last week peppered me for walking out my house
so i had to fix the photon energy to fix there memory wipe of three years
by repolorising the brain without 60 hz
brain shock but pure wipe using antidepressants and - ph
so theres no gaps im current so basicaly now you can wipe the clone and down load it direct without doing the
bud james walmart cover up to oracle ceo
anurism brain transplant but marco rodin already
beat me there i gave him a head start
so no ones getting the key when russia starts sending
bombs come find me because my middle name is edward
cheif victor in end war
and theres scrolls from israel to me as well called bush
scrolls but hes no prince his grandfather was not head of 194
countries or castle air force mine tool down berlin wall what did he do
exactly couldnt even figure out lazers took out 911
smart guy and the oil rig ya thats why the tvs and bulbs exploded
not from back pressure probly be in jail tomaroe have good night

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #917 on: August 13, 2010, 01:04:12 AM »
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Some say im better when im drunk
You're not. When you're drunk, you post like a retarded chimp & you get paranoid. Try posting sober for a change.

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Offline das aloda bullspit

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #918 on: August 13, 2010, 02:06:28 PM »
this is at ian iddleton

Do you know that white pie silicate cell you made earlier on in the thread right near the beginning  of the thread the one that produced 0.4 volts is that still producing any voltage? and also koens cells are putting out around 1.1 volts at the beginningg of tghe tghread tghey seem to be just as good as mine but simpler i would love to  know what happened tgo him and his cells? are they stgill doing anything  also atg everybody has anybody made any major steps forward yet? i know im still using silicates   so im behind the game but ive tried ive made ghungdreds of cells but only about 15 actualy work there not all  a succsess story where should i be taking my research and are the concrete batteries  galvanic are something else i dont think mine are ive used a electric dehumidifier for a week in a sealed box with diy glove holes in it so i can seal  them without any moisture getting in so how is everybody getting on? mr brook try putting your sealangtg cells together  as in stacked up and insereis or in conjunction with each other and see if you kan power something big  yours are a majgor step froward as mine are prettgy big  ie old bombshells with massive copper rod ion them one got uptgo 2.67 volts and onge was 6 volts believe me iam a releiable source but the 6 volt died of thunderstorm and the other died of deufraise(he knocked it off the testing platform) im keeping him away from my experiments  him and fat bob who lokks like he took his car to the crusher and forgot to get out erics also a bit dumb and karl but theyve helped so what can i do  i cant push them away from me. what to do? :-\

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #919 on: August 13, 2010, 03:14:19 PM »
y know tghat pictgure ong page 29 of your cells ian are gtghey stgill workingg and which onges have been the best performers and whatnot?

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Offline das aloda bullspit

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #920 on: August 13, 2010, 07:19:36 PM »
at jeanna
I dont think silanes would be a viable alternalive as they are highly flammable in oxygen  unless you have got a sugggestion in which it could be used for what about silicides like magnesium silicide? its alot more stable is there any reason it needs to be silane titagnategs seem tggo beeg  tgghe bestgg solugtgigong (G keys broke now ) >:(  has anybody heard from koen id like to know how what has happened to his cells understangding his may help me to understand mine also gmgr gbrgookg kgegep gugpgn g ghtgghejg ggoogdgj gggggggggggggwookrgkjgrgk(kegygbgoard has broaokcghgt) >:( >:( >:(

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #921 on: August 15, 2010, 12:20:08 AM »
@all

Did anyone look at TT brown study of petro electric ...

Its the same thing ...

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #922 on: August 19, 2010, 03:24:20 AM »
G'day all.

@Das, yep the pie cell was quite a while ago so I had to go hunting for it.  Anyway it still has 0.238V across it but as with most of the earlier cells, very little current.  As for Koen, I haven't spoken to him for almost 18 months. Thats probably because of my health issues. The last I heard was he had gone to South Africa for a spell.

@MK1, yes I have studied TT Browns work in great detail and it could be said that he was the one who kicked this thing off.

Although I haven't made any new cells for a while I've been reviewing the performance of some i made earlier in the year.
It appears that with most, if not all, silicate based cells there is a lengthy  matuturation time before you can determine it's true characteristics. Here is an example.

Cell 15-2010   made 20th Feburary 2010.

Rochelle salt
Crushed pumice  (lava rock)
Sodium silicate
Iron oxide
Pyrites.
Aluminium tube and copper electrode.

This whole mix was "cooked" for about 3 hours and thoroughly mixed. It produced a thick but pourable paste.
Once the cell had cooled it put out 1.15V and I set it to work running a wall clock.
After 5 days I removed it and let it sit. What I should have done was to put a 1Kohm load resistor across it.
On July 25th I hooked it up to a meter and it put out 0.913V. Dead short current is 15.6uA and thats where it stays.
When the short was removed some 5 days later the voltage recovered to 1.01V within 2 minutes and the cycle was repeated.
I think I may have suggested before that it is most likely that we can only expect a constant current of 10-15uA from a sodium silicate based cell.

For those interested please feel free to reproduce this cell.

Hope to be back soon. Take care.

Ian

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #923 on: August 29, 2010, 08:04:06 PM »
@ ian

I did have a cell which was a verry large cell over 500 kg of material in it it put out over a few volts and has gone to 1.89 volts to give you a ideo of how big it is its the size of a ww2 standard bom shell 60 cm tall i used the original copper rod insoide it was  a bugger i called it the tank cell i think that john uses krazy glue to seal his cells up from moisture and also siloxane may be a good choice thankyou to whoever sent that  evrgygone should try tghat someday  do you think your pyritges cell is a galvanic or a real  crystal cell? also how can sulphur help  prevent galvanic reaction in the cells? also have you tgried when you made cells  one with just the main ingredient and one witgh all the additives? has anybody tgried tgestging the crystal cells against other batteries to see tghe results ?  this could give us a clear indication to whather tghey are better than stamndard batgteries ive also been reading up on the earlier cells what do you think about these cells? do you think they are galvanic or is there something more to it? is the pyrite cell sgtill working and if possible could you put up a few photos  of it and the watch it is working with  also the cells you sowed to prove a point o dranom are tey still working and what have you learned from your experiences in crystal cells?

@ jeanna tghe cell you made on page 21 or 25 the one that dissolved the aluminium does that still put out any voltage? that one is verry intgeresting sounds a bit like a geopolymer is itg still working and also have you had any more luck with the geopolymer cell or is that somebody else

@ mrbrook how are your cells going im guessing the sealant cells are stgill working have you tried them whith anything like a little watch or putting them together to double tghe voltage also hav  you made any more cells and if so how are they performing? have you trid adding metgal oxides to oyur cells also hve you tgried putting them in a shielded metal box or boxes to see if they rae not rf powered or anything like that? how is the lepidolite cell going  i baught tgwo dehumidifiers  electric ones and a sealed box tgo put them into also i still cant seem to get any of my images onto the thread oh well could you send me any pictures of your cells performing  voltage tests and powering stuff? oh and a new guy called prototype9000 is on youtube and he is made a cell that contains only cement and sodium silicate  it has powered a led for uptoi a d
ay would be nice if he could join us and give us his results  also has im has anybody thought of using a small amountgg or krazyglue and mixing itg witggh rhe rock samples in a powder paste mix and putting it into a container? itg might work and last of all the cells you made in page 41 or 42 the ones that used chalk limestone and pyritgge and bournite do they still work and also putgg any new polarized cells in a dehumidifing box gtgo remove any moisture and i suggest putting a top on all of our cells so tgghe humiditgy doesnt get to them also do your cells heat up when shorted ive found that  most crystal cells dont heat up much nad i doesnt vent any electrolyte ? also put the cells on colcks and watches to determine their longterm electrical viability and see how logng it takes to charge up sorry if i am bieng pedantic but tits tghe best way to determine all of the possible outcomes to the nature and endurance of tghese cells good luck to eveyone and dnon t forget to send lots of photos and letters have a god holiday and ggwish you well ian



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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #924 on: August 29, 2010, 09:53:00 PM »
G'day all,

@Das, thanks for your kind wishes.

I will try and post some more photos of some of my more successful cells soon.  The ones I'm working with now are definately not galvanic.
Over the last two days I've been testing Cell 19-2010. It's a standard silicate cell only the rochelle salt was added as a liquid and allowed to crystalize slowly within the mix. I think i made this one in April. It was not a great performer. 0.9V @ 15uA. What I did notice, and this is the exciting bit, not only did it's output change with ambient temperature but it also registered lighting bolts from a 160km away.
Pretty cool I thought. Each lightening strike registered as a small pulse on the output of about 2 uA, easily seen on a moving coil meter.

Anyway I decided to run some tests involving elevated temperatures. When heated to 70 oC,  Cell 19-2010 puts out a constant current of over 4 mA. As long as the temperature is maintained the output remains steady. @45.5 oC it puts out 180 uA. It will take me a few days to plot it's temp v current curve so stay tooned. :)

What this means is we could have some great cells, but not so good at room temperature.  I can see potential here  ;D ;D ;D
I'll be back soon with this one.

Keep up the good work guys and gal  ;)

Ian

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #925 on: August 30, 2010, 05:47:49 AM »
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@ jeanna tghe cell you made on page 21 or 25 the one that dissolved the aluminium does that still put out any voltage? that one is verry intgeresting sounds a bit like a geopolymer is itg still working and also have you had any more luck with the geopolymer cell or is that somebody else
No, das, it is a pile of dust.

The day I posted those videos of the geopolymer conference to you, I realized my mistake.
Dr Davidovits was sometimes heating other times not heating his batches, but he was ALWAYS letting them set up in a strong container where the expansion was resisted so the compound became rock hard.
I never achieved anything rock-like, but that was my aim.
I still think it is a good approach hence my suggestion to you.

@Ian,
Wow, that is really interesting. It picks up and responds to high voltage from a great distance.
In a way, are you making a radio-rock. Do you spose it is AM or FM?  ;D

I wonder if you elevated it... what would it pick up?

and, what about grounding it after one of these spikes? I suppose it was already grounded because you were logging it.
Very interesting!

jeanna

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #926 on: August 30, 2010, 06:19:20 AM »
Ian:

I echo what Jeanna has said and would add...what if you placed it in the earth?  Would it receive telluric currents possibly?  As for heating it, wow, you could place it in the sun during the day and maybe have created another form of solar energy receiver.

Either way, no matter what happens or not, you have done some excellent work here and opened many doors to new discoveries.

Good to see you back.

Bill

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #927 on: August 30, 2010, 09:46:05 PM »
@ian
Thats interestingdo you think it is a electrostatic cell simialr to hutches or something else? Y not try shielding it the paul lorence uay and see if you get any response also try putting it near a vandegraaff or a tv toseeif t has any effect on it i had a cell that uas a uierd one  so here it goes i made a cell using over 4 million volts via a pouerfull taser sometimes cells do some starnge things at these voltages i left it on and afeter i took it off there must have been an alighnment problem as uen i putted it near any cell the voltqage on those cells started to fall super fast anduen i tried a microuave test i smothered it in microuave radiation vian my old microuave and measured the output lef on the other side the starngest thing hapened its actualy absorbes upto 20% of the radiation liek ablck hole effect and some of my cells that uere put near to it had actuallystopped uorking  the strangest cell ive ever made never been able to make one like it since also no matter hat you did it uould aluays measure negative volts and it uasnt a measurement error sadly i threu it out uith myold v andegraaff cos it uasnt a viable cell i uish i hadnt i also uish i could have sent it to you to see uhat i does to yours and others not in a horrible ay i just mean its verry interesting you could have measured it and stuff.And im going to have to try some of these cells myself the earlier ones and some of the later ones also hou can sulphur help to prevent galvanics and uat exactly are ue looking for in our crystal cells electrostatic xray activated microuave piezo or pyroelectric  please everybody post keep posting up if you make any cells and breakthroughs also ianuere do you live? austaralia? i uish i could get a cell off of you to try testing it for myself and then send it back to you the results also i got more info off hutch hes had over 700 mixes before he got the right one ueve made more steps in the three years than he did in 17 yers of cell bguilding or longer this neus is encouraging also the guy that built crystal cells a feu pages back uith the strange amps uat do you think he used and can anybody ask him if they can it uold be helpful Also uat hve you all lerned from these ccells uat is a good material for building these cells and uat is not? this is also interesting as it could be a do's and dont's in cell building for the future

@ mrbrook do your chalk limestone bournite pyrite cells still do uat they uere needed to do? try adding all your cells together to see uat happens and to see uether different crystal cells are backuards compatible? have any more crystal grouths foemed has there been any erosion in any of your cells that you can see?

@ janna the siloxane thing might uork in future it could be added to concrete silicate cells and ian middleton style cells as it should stop chances of galvanics as it is extremely hydrophobic and does not burst into flames in the air you sometimes get brick sealers and conrete sealants and stuff that contain siloxane but most of them just contain a hydrophobic polymer like varnish substance thats slightly rubbery on the brick this is not uat you uant also mr brook uas the sealant you used called Car Go seal up liquid glass? i tried it uith polarization and uithout the polarized one is mutch stonger than the normal one but they both do the job. this is good also has anybody tried addinga tiny bit of  krazyglue  to their mineral pouder mixes and heating them up and polarizing them to see uat happens/ that could be interesting good luck to all ue are getting there  never give up..... in 7 years i havent  :)

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Re: Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison
« Reply #928 on: August 30, 2010, 09:53:26 PM »
@ jeanna so the ansuer may just be to compress it tightly uilst its forming into rock i i think i could do that uith a small alu pipe and alu electrode  ill try the mix you did in 21 to see if there is any difference uen i can get round to it  also did the cell in page 21 or 22 form a oxide ring betueen the aluminium and the mix liek reids  has? i htink it is a good idea keep it up jeanna 

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« Reply #929 on: August 31, 2010, 12:02:28 AM »
@ jeanna so the ansuer may just be to compress it tightly uilst its forming into rock i i think i could do that uith a small alu pipe and alu electrode  ill try the mix you did in 21 to see if there is any difference uen i can get round to it  also did the cell in page 21 or 22 form a oxide ring betueen the aluminium and the mix liek reids  has? i htink it is a good idea keep it up jeanna
It might, but you might try a copper tube with a copper electrode since the strong alkalinity makes the Al form H2 gas which is explosive and prevents adhering to the walls of the tube, and the Al dissolves at the time it is producing the gas. There is not enough gas in one of these things to hurt your kitchen, but it might keep the cell from working.

I think the container Dr Davidovits was a strong polyethylene. He said to avoid polystyrene. It just needs to keep the pressure inside as the exothermic reax takes place. I bet a plastic plumbing pipe would work for a tube.
If you do this at room temp it can take a month, but if you heat the mix to "too hot to touch", it will continue to heat as it cures and be cured in a short amount of time. umm was it 24 hours? It was on the videos somewhere.

Have fun!

jeanna

 

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