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scianto

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Parallel Path Magnet Motor running bicycle 2
« Reply #60 on: February 22, 2011, 08:59:06 AM »
This is another test in which a small parallel path magnet motor turns bicycle wheel in my work shop:
YouTube - scienculo's Channel
I am still using unidirectional impulses (circuit above) to run the motor.

Kator01

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #61 on: February 24, 2011, 01:51:21 PM »
Hi scianto,

very good and serious work. I really would love to understand what you a takling about in your vids. But unfortunately most of us do not understand your language, so do I. Is it possible to just make one basic video-demo in english ?
Are you willing to machine and sell such generator for other members here in the forum?

I would appreciate if you contact me via pm if you do not like to answer me here in the public sectionof the  forum

Regards

Kator01

scianto

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #62 on: February 24, 2011, 09:06:56 PM »
Kator01

>> But unfortunately most of us do not understand your language
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I've been working in communication field and I know how much suffering is the mankind because of misunderstandings. That is why I am supporting the neutral auxiliary language Esperanto that I also speak :)


>> so do I. Is it possible to just make one basic video-demo in english ?
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My spoken English pronunciation may be difficult to understand and I will not be able to say all that I want to say when it comes to my mind.


>> Are you willing to machine and sell such generator for other members here in the forum?
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This one was made for me by my friend, I don't have any workshop / tools to make this kind of stuff. So, no, sorry.

scianto

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small Parallel Path Magnet Motor on a bicycle
« Reply #63 on: February 26, 2011, 10:08:11 PM »
These are my last 3 short films showing a small parallel path magnet motor installed on a bicycle. Short indoor tests.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejf50kenDkc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eja7W9t5RHQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ9_b9vYWMk

Kator01

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #64 on: February 27, 2011, 06:28:06 PM »
Hi scianto,

very sad... if you have been working in the communicating field I really wonder why you leave us people here with videos we do not understand. . No one here speaks Esperanto. What do you want to demonstrate - whom do you want to reach ? This forum here is a platform for open source-ideas and for me it does only make sense if these ideas can be clearly communicated in a way, most of us understand.
For example: in your videos about the bicycle I do not understand the function of the front-accumulator-setup with the halogen-light-sticks. What is the purpose of this setup ?

Have you ever tried to present  just one of videos in english ?  Do not lay too many restrictions upon yourself in being absolutely perfect in what you want  to present.

I definitely get the impression of some very good work presentred by you, but again : I really want to understand what you are doing with this bicycle-setup

Best Regards

Kator01

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #65 on: February 27, 2011, 07:01:40 PM »
What I can never understand, is why people use car batteries or any kind of batteries, plenty of wire etc. when trying to proove they have found a way to make free energy. If these motors REALLY can produce excess electricity, there is no need to proove that the setup can charge a battery with more power than it consumes.
Remove the battery and proove that it really IS excess energy - by just looping the setup for a perpetuall motion WHITHOUT batteries. It is as simple as that. If it doesn't work without the battery there, there is no excess energy.

Vidar

scianto

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #66 on: February 27, 2011, 08:15:36 PM »
>> why you leave us people here with videos we do not understand.
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I am explaining as much as I can in written texts. I am ready to answer your questions and I do it with pleasure, being happy that I can help you.

On the other hand I do not see high value in what I have presented, just simple experiments, may be some people are interested, but there is no OU or things like that. So I am just sharing some of the tests I am doing, just in case there might be people interested in doing something similar.


>> No one here speaks Esperanto.
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Not sure. One man wrote to me in Esperanto on my yt channel :)


>> I do not understand the function of the front-accumulator-setup with the halogen-light-sticks.
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The purpose of this setup is to collect energy that is recovered from the motor coils, store it and use it later to power the system, after the two battery sets are swapped.
After the "front-accumulator-setup" (I call it Bd) is charged, I put it in place of the Uzm (batteries that were powering the system), and, of course, Uzm goes to the "front-accumulator-setup".
This, actually, is nothing new, it is like you do when experimenting with Bedini motor setups.

The light on the "front-accumulator-setup" are just to protect the batteries against exploding. The charging current is so high, that they start to almost boil within seconds, the voltage increases to 60 V. So to protect them, not to destroy them, I am discharging them fast enough.

Actually, this is only temporary bad solution. Final solution is that the recovered energy entirely goes directly to the powering batteries. I still need to find a solution that is enough efficient.


>> Have you ever tried to present  just one of videos in english ?
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No, I am not so confident about my spoken English. I suppose that not every body will understand it. Sorry.


>> I really want to understand what you are doing with this bicycle-setup.
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Do not hesitate to ask whatever you like to know concerning my experiments.

scianto

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #67 on: February 27, 2011, 08:18:36 PM »
>> Remove the battery and proove that it really IS excess energy - by just looping the setup for a perpetuall motion WHITHOUT batteries.
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As I said, there is no OU, so, no excess energy in this setup. At least I don't find it. The main goal of these experiments with the bicycle was to prove to myself that a small PPMM can run a bicycle.

gotoluc

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #68 on: May 25, 2011, 10:14:38 PM »

Question asked: "I do not understand the function of the front-accumulator-setup with the halogen-light-sticks"

Your answer: "The light on the "front-accumulator-setup" are just to protect the batteries against exploding. The charging current is so high, that they start to almost boil within seconds, the voltage increases to 60 V. So to protect them, not to destroy them, I am discharging them fast enough"

Do not hesitate to ask whatever you like to know concerning my experiments.

Ok, this is what I was finding so interesting and don't quite understand.

If your recovery batteries are getting overcharged if you don't have resistors (halogen bulbs) then to me it seems you have more energy coming out then going in.

Can you please replace the bulbs with 2 of 10 Ohm 50 watts resistors and measure the voltage across them and post your findings.

Can you also post your input voltage and current at the same time.

Thank you for sharing your work

Luc

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #69 on: May 26, 2011, 12:04:13 PM »
gotoluc
I disassembled everything some time ago, did not continue the experiments because other work had to be done since it was more important.

According to my experience I suppose the charged batts didn't receive more energy than was put in the setup from running bats.
Before the bicycles I did experiments with similar electric setup (different PPMMotors) and the maximum efficiency I got was 98,6% or so.

gotoluc

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #70 on: May 26, 2011, 03:55:17 PM »
Okay scianto

thanks for the reply

One thing I wanted to ask you. It looks like you were mostly sending pulses of 50% duty cycle. Did you try it with less?

Thanks for sharing

Luc

scianto

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #71 on: May 26, 2011, 09:19:00 PM »
Luc
When testing I tried form almost zero to 100% duty cycle. As far as I remember at heavy loads around 50% gave best efficiency. Every motor at every optical sensor position and at every voltage had its own set of other parameters to work its best efficiency. So most of the game was about tuning and tuning it. Quite tedious work :)

gotoluc

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #72 on: May 27, 2011, 05:46:28 AM »
Thanks scianto for your reply.

I feel there is something we are missing in these Parallel Path Magnet Motor. Maybe the core stays magnetized for too long?

Anyways, thanks for taking the time to share your research

Luc