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Author Topic: Parallel Path Magnet Motor  (Read 51118 times)

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #45 on: November 03, 2010, 10:12:59 AM »
Have you measured motor performance without using the magnets?

No, I left it for latter testing. I only run it to see that it runs. I will go back to it after doing a series of tests with the new magnets, see my above post.

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #46 on: November 03, 2010, 10:18:40 AM »
I removed big magnets from the stator and inserted small ones. Before one magnet was 2x2x3 cm, now it is a round one 1.5 x 2 cm only. This makes a huge difference, the motor can be run on 1 V and 0.1 A that makes 0.1 W.
SRSM6 motor runs from AAA battery. And, I need to hold the shaft very strong to stop it!

See yourself these two short videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3taHe7Fsxg (may be still converting)
http://www.youtube.com/scienculo#p/a/u/0/3sH2-I8jTng

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Parallel Path Magnet Motor works at 0.6 V
« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2010, 10:30:22 PM »
Well, it works even at 0.6 V :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj9EIEOVkNk

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Parallel Path Magnet Motor works at 0.6 V
« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2010, 10:30:22 PM »
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ver. 6 Parallel Path Magnet Motor update
« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2010, 10:34:49 AM »
To make it clear and avoid confusion (I deleted one file from youtube and editet the others), here again.
Parallel Path Magnet Motor version 6 (in Polish: Silnik Równoległych Ścieżek Magnetycznych SRSM6):
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powered by AAA battery 1.5 V drawing ~0.1 A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sH2-I8jTng
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how it works at input voltage from 1 V to 30 V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Png5o_Ft67c
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works at input voltage as low as 0.6 V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj9EIEOVkNk

Updated schematic I am using from version 6:
http://servilo.website.pl/laboratorio/esploroj/rownolegle_strumienie/SRSM2i3_sterowanie_rys1_2.png

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2010, 11:57:20 PM »
Hi scianto

take a look here

http://www.energeticambiente.it/prototipi-privati-di-veicoli-elettrici/14723137-mk12-motore-deviazione-di-flusso-magnetico.html

you will find a lot of info, and cut time on your project, these two university students have done a lot of R and D on it, plus they have a new patent on it, yes a new patent  but the all thing is open book, the tread is in Italian, use any of the web translator, i hope this helps you out

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« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2010, 11:57:20 PM »
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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2010, 01:24:29 PM »
Thank you. I did, a few weeks ago, went through the entire text with translation to English. But I didn't find any patent file. Also I didn't find schematic or other technical info that I can use to progress in my experiments. Maybe I missed it?
I would like to directly contact them and talk.

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2010, 01:08:13 AM »
Hi Scianto

you have to register on that forum to access pictures and files, check the first page they talk about  the patend.

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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2010, 08:43:05 PM »
Continuing my research  with PPMM (Parallel Path Magnet Motor) version 7. The difference is that this motor has ferrite magnets, as you suggested. They are much weaker compared to the previous ones, neodymium, but same dimensions.
What I can see is that the overall efficiency of the entire setup is higher. The rest you can imagine.
But I am not claiming OU, it still needs more research.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvo2y6J0Tks

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SRSM7 tests
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2010, 10:20:20 PM »
I just finished uploading and making English subtitles for the short videos. Please, see them here:

SRSM7_1
Parallel path magnet motor SRSM7 version 7 of nominal ~ 1 kW power -- a test how it works from 0.7 V to 30 V, when drawing power starting from 0.15 W. This version differs from the previous ones with magnets, now ferrite magnets are used, not neodymium ones.
http://www.youtube.com/scienculo#p/a/u/2/0dc-ZYejMV0


SRSM7_2
Parallel path magnet motor version SRSM7. The input is set up so as the entire system consumes 30 W. The energy recovery subsystem consumes 27 W, so the motor itself practically is using only 3 W.
http://www.youtube.com/scienculo#p/u/3/Nvo2y6J0Tks


SRSM7_3
Parallel path magnet motor version SRSM7 of nominl power ~ 1 kW, goes on a button battery from a calculator or a watch!!! :)
http://www.youtube.com/scienculo#p/u/1/2b7B8EHGkbI


SRSM7_4
Parallel path magnet motor version SRSM7 of nominal power ~1 kW, goes on AAA battery
http://www.youtube.com/scienculo#p/u/0/gW7qRb8pWTA

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SRSM7 tests
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new circuit
« Reply #54 on: December 25, 2010, 03:39:46 PM »
I am testing now a new circuit. The schematic is here:
http://servilo.website.pl/laboratorio/esploroj/rownolegle_strumienie/SRSM7_sterowanie_rys30.png
You can see that in this circuit almost all energy from the input power is used for the motor coils and there is almost no need to recover the inductive spike. There is some similarity with H bridge.

I think this should also work well with other pulse motors, for example, with SRM, but the timing would be much more critical.
Also, I am sure, it will work with one phase inductive motors, both without or with capacitor.

Or course, the circuit is nothing new, an old and well working solution used in electronics.

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Parallel Path Magnet Motor on unidirectional impulses
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2011, 01:07:21 PM »
Here is and example of how parallel path magnet motor can be run on unidirectional impulses. I never before saw it functioning like that, because normally it has to be powered by impulses of alternating direction.
Here is my new toy.
http://www.youtube.com/user/scienculo?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/_Ii6_mKO92Y

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Parallel Path Magnet Motor on unidirectional impulses
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Re: Parallel Path Magnet Motor
« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2011, 06:29:42 PM »
I am experimenting with PPMMs. They are build according to PPMT patented by J. Flynn.
Some of the tests are on my channel:
http://www.youtube.com/scienculo

Any suggestions, co-operation proposals etc. ?
Maybejovich you should speakowitch Englichova please? Nice machine you got there anyways :)

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Parallel Path Magnet Motor on unidirectional impulses
« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2011, 11:16:27 AM »
This example shows, as far as I understand the oscilloscope traces, that parallel path magnet motor can be run and function very well, when it is powered with only unidirectional impulses. So, no transistor H bridge or other circuit producing alternating direction current impulses are needed, as I have thought till now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxhJlKuZgfA

In this example you can see, that 50% of the cycle the motor winding are pulsed and the other 50% of the cycle they generate current. What is most important here is, that the generating current is powering the motor, so it created the other 50% of the cycle running the motor.

Theoretically it means that half of the power is needed to run the motor compared with circuits running it with alternating current impulses.

Note it down and use it with other motors. Now we know that DC motors, pulse motors and even 3 phase induction motors can be run using this kind of powering.

Now you can call it tuning and saving as much as possible but still run motors at that give same amount of power on shaft.

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Parallel Path Magnet Motor turning a bicycle wheel
« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2011, 09:04:54 AM »
Practical implementation.
Here is an example of a small parallel path magnet motor turning a bicycle wheel, that I did yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYzfF7aPacY

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« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2011, 09:56:39 AM »
I am using this circuit to drive parallel path magnet motors, also the one build in my bicycle:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10387

Please, try it with your motor, tell me how it works.

 

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