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Author Topic: Eric the free energy skeptic  (Read 32589 times)

Offline firlight

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Re: Eric the free energy skeptic
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2005, 12:34:31 AM »
Eric
    I have replicated Stan Meyers WFC ,and  claim >300% overunity,how does that grab you?
Also in the past looked at some of your examples of failed replications ,you have to be a joke.
You really don`t know your science.
Best Regards Dave L.

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Re: Eric the free energy skeptic
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2005, 08:49:37 AM »
@Dave L.
Can you please post a few pics and test results of your WFC ?
Thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

Offline Clara Listensprechen

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Re: Eric the free energy skeptic
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2006, 03:50:08 AM »
When most of us speak of 'FREE ENERGY' many are talking about getting energy from some previously uknown source such as Zero Point Energy or Ether Energy. Once the mechanics are known of how to use this energy then we'll quickly realize that it is free in the same sense oil is free energy. Also wind, sunlight, biomass, wood, coal, hydro, ocean waves, gravity, etc. are free energy sources.

For every energy harnessing devise there is an energy source. What's important is whether there needs to be a middle-man between the source and the end user. Other aspects are initial and on-going costs of production, along with dependability and availability.

An ideal device would be something that gains unending perpetual energy from a steady free source like ZPE or gravity.

Jim_Mich


I would prefer to introduce a more practical definition of what's "free" in "free energy"--making use of the chemical/mechanical actions that Mom Nature herself does all the time without our help or interference.  Mom Nature does what she does for you, you do a little bit yourself and voila, it's yours for the cost of your bothering to harness it.

For example:  when the sun shines, it heats up stuff.  Heat up water to vapor in the presence of iron and you WILL get hydrogen + rust.  No electrolysis involved.  Are you going to complain about the energy it takes to get iron?  It's still cheaper than drilling thru rock to get oil.

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Offline JackH

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Re: Eric the free energy skeptic
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2006, 07:12:32 AM »
Eric

Your $10,000.00 is not worth it.  When you read the rules you place on the inventer it is impossable.   Most inventers are small time, in other words they just do not have the money to build such a machine that you require for this prize.   I have no dought no one has collected it.  Your requirements are to great and your prize money is to small.

I really think you need to get a life.

Later,,,,JackH

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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2006, 07:04:56 PM »
When you read the rules you place on the inventer it is impossable. Most inventers are small time, in other words they just do not have the money to build such a machine that you require for this prize.

If an inventor can't build a device that will fit within Eric's size constraints, that will produce usable power, then the invention either isn't "free energy", or it isn't economically feasible.

It isn't sufficient to be able to display overunity - you also have to be able to make a device to harness this energy, that costs less than other commonly available alternative energy devices, such as windmills.

BTW, Eric, you have a few spelling mistakes on your free energy contest page - for example "I would love their to be FE" - should be "there", not "their".

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Offline Liberty

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Re: Eric the free energy skeptic
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2006, 08:39:48 PM »
I would say we won't have to be very concerned about Eric having to pay off on his offer.  With all of the protections on Eric's side and the requirements protecting Eric's side, and the carrot being offered so tiny, I don't think that Eric will ever see an overunity device even if it did meet his power output requirements. 

While it is easy to understand that Eric would want to protect himself from having to pay off to a scam (of which there are many, unfortunately), I think that he would be better off to 'scout out' or prescreen the device to see if it is real first, then hold out the carrot while relaxing his rigid regulations to allow for a real invention that may be on a smaller scale that just is not highly developed enough yet to be able to produce the power output requirement that is listed in his original rigid regulations.  Of course Eric would have to sign a non-disclosure agreement (without a time limit) to protect the inventor before seeing the device. 




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Re: Eric the free energy skeptic
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2006, 12:27:28 AM »



Eric Krieg you are nothing but a sad clown..

While you are at it ask that scumbag Randi what happened to the rabbitt that fell out of his hat.


Jack H is right, you really need to get a life. 

What a joke you are.

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Offline erickrieg

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Re: Eric the free energy skeptic
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2008, 03:38:14 PM »
truth is, I would love to be convinced any of this stuff is real and I would love to pay out my $10,000, because my net worth would then shoot up a lot more than 10k.  think about it, the vast majority of businesses (and all the ones I invest in) CONSUME energy, many would be instantly profitable if energy could be free.

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Re: Eric the free energy skeptic
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2008, 07:25:44 PM »
Eric,

     Just assume for a minute that free energy devices are real and that you developed one. Would you try to take it to market or sit on it for yourself and you family? Now if you tried to take it to market; think about the powerful people that you would be hurting. Consider Exxon, BP as some energy companies. You would also be killing entire country's economies which are based on energy export. You would also be hurting a large source of government revenue which is tacked on to your energy bills. You would also be putting thousands or millions of people out of work till they can find a new purpose. Do you think they (all these factions) would just stand by and play by the rules to slow you down? Do you think you can slip under their radar screens? Have you read about how big corporate espionage is? Do you have any idea about the size of the intelligence divisions in these corporations? Think about the politicians which are bought off. There are a thousand ways to put a stop to you that don't even include violence. My point is this. Don't be so quick to make the assumption that there is no such thing as a free energy device that is in operation right now because they haven't come to collect your prize money or any other prizes out there. Think about what they could be sacrificing to share these ideas for several thousand dollars. Doesn't sound like a fair trade when I can imagine the ways I could be gotten to.

Chad

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Offline Bessler007

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Re: Eric the free energy skeptic
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2008, 10:44:42 PM »
Hello Eric,

I've always considered your offer as gimmicky as the free energy believers you're challenging.  You have the initially offer:
win over $10,000 for real proof of free energy (or a $2000 commission for referring me to a winner)

Then in the fine print you mention:
the device must put out at least 1.5kW of electrical produced resistive heat energy at least 90% of a 24-hour window of time. Eric shall provide the resistive loads and power measuring.


A continuous energy density of ? watt/mile3 could provide real proof of free power, but regardless of the density your prize for the proof wouldn't give you license (as you've suggested in this thread) to use it to increase your net worth.

Bessler, mib


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truth is, I would love to be convinced any of this stuff is real and I would love to pay out my $10,000, because my net worth would then shoot up a lot more than 10k.  think about it, the vast majority of businesses (and all the ones I invest in) CONSUME energy, many would be instantly profitable if energy could be free

think about it.

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Re: Eric the free energy skeptic
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2008, 10:59:33 PM »
I don't mean it to be a gimmick, I mean to put my money where my mouth is.  I am willing to negotiate a lower power level.  I'm even open to a no money validation of a self runner.  I tried to sign up to be a Steorn witness (as more time goes by, I think it more likely the whole thing is a lie and that there probably are no witnesses).   I am well aware that there is a lot of solar energy all around us and have always recommended taking advantage of that.  I don't expect anyone ever to win the prize - certainly not over balanced wheels.   But I do hold out hope that break throughs in real science and real engineering can one day allow us to wean ourselves off the poison fuel that has us giving trillions to countries that hate us for poison that kills us and over heats the planet.

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Offline Bessler007

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Re: Eric the free energy skeptic
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2008, 11:42:27 PM »
Hello Eric,

I'm not sure what real science or real engineering is but I think a real scientist looks for answers where they are and isn't satisfied with any answer.  I try to find the most exact answerI can in hopes it matches reality as well as it can.  A perfect fit is only possible when you challenge the religious dogma both sides have.

If there is any electrical phenomena we could call free energy then I think an analysis of it would describe the method to engineer a mechanical equivalent using gravity.  I think the converse is equally true.

I'm very certain if the idea of ?free energy? exists where I'm looking for it, chapters of physics texts will have to be rewritten.  A lot of people would be surprised but I wouldn't.  My opinion:

There exists a model within creation of creation.

... is purely philosophical.  That's what drives my search.

Thank you for your answer.

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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2008, 08:02:44 AM »
I don't know why anyone speaks of FREE ENERGY.

There is no such thing, there never will be. As proof I furnish a submission to the Czeck government in 1925 talking about taxes on waterwheels according to the amount of horsepower produced. As far as I know the bill was passed. Fact is there was such a tax in place.

Sorry the document is in German.

http://www.senat.cz/zajimavosti/tisky/2vo/tisky/T0014_01.htm

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Re: Eric the free energy skeptic
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2008, 04:08:12 PM »
... I don't expect anyone ever to win the prize -
Eric, you are a time wasting bigot. you are not committed to
discovering truth, but to confirm your comfortable version of
it.
Get a life.

Offline Bessler007

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Re: Eric the free energy skeptic
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2008, 07:12:14 AM »
We all have biases.

Eric,

Hans makes an excellent point:

I don't know why anyone speaks of FREE ENERGY.

and Clara Listensprechen touched on it earlier.  Any form of energy has a cause external to the system that captures it.  There are no examples otherwise as far as I know.

The fundamental principle of any attempt to create energy has to begin with an understanding of the cause.  Once the cause is realized the question becomes, 'how can you manage the cause to create energy?'

If you would be willing, Eric, I would like to hold you to the emboldened parts of your quote.

I'm no Tesla but I'll end with a story from him.  He explained an idea to a professor and the professor explained to Tesla "it's impossible."  Tesla went on to get several patents on the idea and today we power our houses with it. 

The moral is that sometimes the student becomes the teacher.

Bessler
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. . .
  I am willing to negotiate a lower power level.  . . .
  I don't expect anyone ever to win the prize - certainly not over balanced wheels.   . . .

 

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