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Author Topic: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!  (Read 185972 times)

Rosemary Ainslie

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Dark energy = unknown energy .

I will say that 5 types known , but what is causing those 5 recognized forces , i will postulate that the root of those are from the conversion from dark energies .

Is electricity an action or a reaction , first off as long as it works who cares , but now we are beyond that , some times a mirror is all that is needed to see a complete picture .

I saw this video http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/56623/Secret_UFO_Propulsion_System_Boyd_Bushman_Lockheed/

I sure would love talking with him .

Mark



 

Hi Mark.  That video was AMAZING.  And nice to see another whistle blower.  And really nice to see more acknowledgement of Dark Energy.  I spoke to a physicist about this on one of our campuses.  A full on Professor.  He told me, categorically, that Dark Energy is still not proven.  Amazing.  They don't even recognise the achievements of their own colleagues when it confronts new truths. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

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Guys, I finally took the trouble to look up cold electricity.  It's very ably described here by Stefan - for anyone who, like me, may not have understood the term. 

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Stiffler_Cold_Electricity_Circuit

Sorry if it's off topic - but I get STUCK if I don't understand a term.  And these new terms are absolutely not standard.  But I now get the concept.  Frankly I don't see a need for another term for this.  But there you go.  The result is still AMAZING.

Regards,
Rosemary

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Rose:

Just to clarify a few things.  I have built 2 Stubblefield coils and, as Iota says, my original "earth battery" which consists of magnesium and carbon rods.  So, if folks watch my videos, they should not mix the 2 devices as they are totally different.

I have no sand in my soil here, it is mostly clay, and when it dries out, it cracks.  If, as some say, the moisture in the ground was the ONLY thing, then why would my alignment make so much difference in the output?  The dip angles and the meridian alignments make all the difference, at least it did for me and a bunch of Russian experimenters that came before us.

Ignore Milehigh.  I have tried to communicate with him while he was here and not banned, it was of no use.  He "knows" what he thinks he knows and that is it.

That same tired argument of the cost of electricity of thousands of dollars to produce the magnesium and carbon rods does not hold up at all.  I have had similar retorts to my tube videos.  One guy even told me that it takes over $100 worth of electricity to make even one 2N3904 transistor so my JT set-ups are not efficient at all.  Really?  Think about this for one second.  I buy those transistors for like $.29 ea (US) so, if they really cost over $100 to produce then, someone is getting screwed!

This is the same as Milehigh's argument.  If he knew anything at all about business, he would know that to produce my magnesium block, if it took a hoover dam type project to do so then I believe I would have paid a little more than $30 for it.  If he is claiming that the energy (potential energy) is stored in these materials well, he is correct but then Einstein beat him to that idea many years ago.  Potential energy is inherent in ALL matter. E=mc squared and all that.

So, his protests are nothing new, sad to say.  when I used to ask him what he has built and experimented with his response was "I didn't have to, I know it does not work".  Very helpful and a great contribution to our joint energy research efforts.

So, while Lasersaber's rotor continues to turn, and my leds continue to light from my electrodes, pseudo intellects like Milehigh will continue to tell us why this will not ever work.

Oh well.

Bill

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Which brings me back to your post here Iota.  You must please forgive me.  I'm really not qualified to comment on any level at all other than our shared rights to express our doubts and our thoughts generally.  I've re-read my posts and there's very little to commend them other than a rather intolerant pendantry.  Since I'm accusing everyone else of this - then perhaps I should hold up that mirror that Mark proposed we use.  LOL

As I understand it ions are the basis of plasmas and yes, I also understand it that they're responsive to magnetic fields - which indicates a charge value - presumably based on it's valence condition.  But I think the assumption is made that there are such inside the materials - be it the iron, copper, water whatever.  And yes Laser used salt - so, presumably, he has found that the early removal of that galvanic crust to his wire also promotes the inductive principles that allow the rotor to turn.

Here's Wiki's definition of galvanised iron coatings - using zinc.

Zinc coatings prevent corrosion of the protected metal by forming a physical barrier, and by acting as a sacrificial anode if this barrier is damaged. When exposed to the atmosphere, zinc reacts with oxygen to form zinc oxide, which further reacts with water molecules in the air to form zinc hydroxide. Finally zinc hydroxide reacts with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to yield a thin, impermeable, tenacious and quite insoluble dull gray layer of zinc carbonate which adheres extremely well to the underlying zinc, so protecting it from further corrosion, in a way similar to the protection afforded to aluminium and stainless steels by their oxide layers.

I think what we must both recognise is that the only 'rusting' that laser has reported on is the rusing of that zinc coating.  But I'm open to correction.  If this is the case then the underlying iron is not rusting any further.  Again.  I'm open to correction.  Laser?  Anyone?

Regarding ionic flow from electron flow?  Here I'm afraid you've lost me.  I don't think anyone assumes that the ions actually flow as an electric current.  I always understood it that the assumption is that there's either too many or two few electrons that cause a valence imbalance.  The electrons, as you then point out, are assumed to 'move' as current flow and they move to balance out any experienced valence condition.  This is not speculative.  These facts are known and proven.  But the point is this.  The actual rig that laser has - must also be allowing or inducing a current flow else the switches would not switch and the rotor would not turn.  That current flow - cannot comprise a 'flow' of electrons for many reasons which I've listed in that link I repeatedly add to my signature.  I'll risk it again.  My proposal is that the movement or the re-arrangement of the electrons within the structure is the result of current flow - NOT the movement of those electrons which is absolutely NOT debateable.  Electrons can and do move through standard chemical interactions.  But as Magneticist has pointed out - this may be a result of the flow of current - not the material of the current itself.  The effect, and not the cause.

Regarding this statement of yours


Standard term to differentiate ionic flow from electron flow. 2 separate flows that can produce electricity according to physics. The Ionic flow may be cold electricity.
Free to move not free electrons. Copper has 29 electrons. If one is forced out of its shell and into the next atom forcing that one into the next and so on making a flow of electrons. This is how Im perceiving it. If the electrons dont leave their shells then an explanation is in order for me to understand.
That process - the movement of one electron into the body of another atom would require the emission of a photon.  In effect, the wire carrying the flow of current would light up like lights on a christmas tree.  However, if one electron 'bumped up' against another but stayed put inside it's own atom - then one could definitely 'transfer' energy through a wire.  But that process would take some time to 'start'.  It would require about half an hour's delay on laser's rig alone - assuming he's got in excess of 2 meters of wiring- to start spinning the rotor.  Our scientists know the rate at which one electron will influence its neighbouring electron - so to speak. 

I did not realise that Bill is not using a coil.  But I'll check on this and get back to you.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
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Rose:

Check my previous post, you may have missed it.

Bill

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Pirate.  At last.  I've been hoping you'll get on line.  I know how MileHigh argues.  He's rather proud of his debating skills.  But I absolutely agree with your points and voiced them - but not with the same aplomb as you've managed here.

I'm with you Pirate.  These effects are really important to analyse.  I've tried to get a couple of chemists to comment.  But to no avail.  Meanwhile I'd still rather depend on my own poor logic than borrow anyone else's - at least until I find something that sits better than current mainstream concepts - (literally and figuratively).  LOL

 ;D

Kindest regards,
Rosie

Rose:

Just to clarify a few things.  I have built 2 Stubblefield coils and, as Iota says, my original "earth battery" which consists of magnesium and carbon rods.  So, if folks watch my videos, they should not mix the 2 devices as they are totally different.

I have no sand in my soil here, it is mostly clay, and when it dries out, it cracks.  If, as some say, the moisture in the ground was the ONLY thing, then why would my alignment make so much difference in the output?  The dip angles and the meridian alignments make all the difference, at least it did for me and a bunch of Russian experimenters that came before us.

Ignore Milehigh.  I have tried to communicate with him while he was here and not banned, it was of no use.  He "knows" what he thinks he knows and that is it.

That same tired argument of the cost of electricity of thousands of dollars to produce the magnesium and carbon rods does not hold up at all.  I have had similar retorts to my tube videos.  One guy even told me that it takes over $100 worth of electricity to make even one 2N3904 transistor so my JT set-ups are not efficient at all.  Really?  Think about this for one second.  I buy those transistors for like $.29 ea (US) so, if they really cost over $100 to produce then, someone is getting screwed!

This is the same as Milehigh's argument.  If he knew anything at all about business, he would know that to produce my magnesium block, if it took a hoover dam type project to do so then I believe I would have paid a little more than $30 for it.  If he is claiming that the energy (potential energy) is stored in these materials well, he is correct but then Einstein beat him to that idea many years ago.  Potential energy is inherent in ALL matter. E=mc squared and all that.

So, his protests are nothing new, sad to say.  when I used to ask him what he has built and experimented with his response was "I didn't have to, I know it does not work".  Very helpful and a great contribution to our joint energy research efforts.

So, while Lasersaber's rotor continues to turn, and my leds continue to light from my electrodes, pseudo intellects like Milehigh will continue to tell us why this will not ever work.

Oh well.

Bill

There.  I've done it.  LOL

Rosemary Ainslie

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Rose:

Check my previous post, you may have missed it.

Bill

Bill - our posts crossed.  "LIKE MINDS"  It must be synchronicity - one of Aaron Murakami's deep obsessions.  LOL. 

I'm trying to copy over your post into my own post.  Would be so grateful for more talent on these systems - or otherwise just way more grey matter than the Good Lord saw fit to give me. 

 ;D

Kindest as ever,
R

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I totally understand the significance of acknowledging the true nature of how the stubblefield is working, but technically the world is already aware of this type of technology and we have called them solar panels. The world seems to not care about specifics. At the end of the day any physicist is going to attribute all energy gain from the Sun.

Being able to construct a small coil that kicks out inductive spikes for the use of small motoring is definitely interesting, but it seems the industry has chosen to invest in these solar gathering panels instead, which in all reality work much more efficiently.

I know in my heart the electron is a mistake..
Having a theory seemingly fit all the pieces together is hardly a basis to lay a foundation we call facts. Its a great theory but not a fact.
I have had plenty of personal experiences with these types of circuits where i felt i had gained a solid conclusion about something, that seems to be tried and true, until one day i try something else and all that goes out the window..

the explanation of hot air rising with force is even a bunch of BS to me..


As far as determining whether the coil is a battery or not, i suppose Lasersaber is doing the best that he can, by publicly displaying its long term usage.. Eventually there will be an answer.
I would think that after several months, if the overall output has decreased we would know.

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I didnt know Bill had a ns coil up yet so I must apologize. Going to have to check his videos out again.

That process - the movement of one electron into the body of another atom would require the emission of a photon.
 That I didnt know. I knew if a photon was absorbed by a metal surface that an electron was ejected. Now you have me thinking photons moving electrons like in photo-electrics. You just put an overload on my 7 brain cells. lol!
Seeing how there are photons that are not visible I wonder if these types are present in the process. 

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I think what we must both recognise is that the only 'rusting' that laser has reported on is the rusing of that zinc coating.
I havent seen that. If its white corrosion it would be the zinc. If its brown its probably rust from the iron. May be a combination of both. Ant pictures available. Didnt see anything on utube.
 


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Iota:

Correction, I do not think I had my video camera at the time of my NS coil experiments but, I did document all of my tests over on the Stubblefield topic with photos.

I only built 2 of them and only one had 2 layers of windings, the first one was a single layer.  None of them had a secondary.  I never got that far. Sorry for my bad memory.

Bill




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the explanation of hot air rising with force is even a bunch of BS to me..



That is just a simple example of gravity at work.  The cold air, which is more dense and therefore heavier sinks which displaces the warmer or hot air and forces it up.

Bill

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Hi Iota.  The 'drift' of electrons in a typical electrolytic interaction - is usually associated with the separation or 'joining up' (don't know the technical term) of atoms in a molecule.  There is no 'isolation' of an actual electron to move in it's own preferred direction.  It moves within the atomic structure towards wherever it is that it can compensate for it's own valence imbalance - is how I understand it.  But I'm so much a beginner in this that I really should not comment at all.  And nor would I if we could get some chemist to enlighten us.  Those that I have asked have not given me any kind of answer - and, latterly, I see they don't even post anymore on EF.com.  So I'm stuck.  I wish there was a qualified chemist on this forum who would engage.

Meanwhile - I also need to know if Laser's wire is galvanised with 'zinc'.  I'm not even sure of that.  Laser?  Please, if you read here, could you advise us.  I'd also be very glad if you could give us the diameter of your coil - at first winding - and then, if possible, the number of 'layers'.  Maybe we can find out the resistive values from the length.  I'd like to give it a go.  The hope is to get to some kind of numbers that we can at least roughly estimate the wattage dissipated.  If you've already given us this - then apologies for asking for it again.  If anyone has picked up on these values, please post them.  Or just point me to where I should be able to find this.

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I only built 2 of them and only one had 2 layers of windings, the first one was a single layer.  None of them had a secondary.  I never got that far. Sorry for my bad memory.
Your memory has to be better than mine. lol!
I guess its safe to say the bulk of power is in your mag block and carbon rod.

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Meanwhile - I also need to know if Laser's wire is galvanised with 'zinc'.
If he said galvanized Im quite sure its zinc. Im curious on the iron carbon content which he probably doesnt know. Ive never seen those specs on galvanized wire for fencing.

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Iota:

I don't know what Lasersaber did but when I went shopping for wire I took a neo mag. with me.  I tried many types of "iron" wire and settled on a non-galvanized wire that was really attracted to the neo.  I did the same with my core.  As it turned out, a galvanized spike had very great attraction to the mag. way more than any other type of rebar or anything else I could find.  So, that is what I used on both coils.

Bill

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As it turned out, a galvanized spike had very great attraction to the mag. way more than any other type of rebar or anything else I could find.  So, that is what I used on both coils.
Thanks Bill! From previous research on rebar I found its mainly made from scraps and has a higher carbon content thats probably not suited for electromagnets. There are different grades but Ive seen it stated the chemistry is not uniform also. 1018 steel is still the cheapest lower carbon high iron Ive found. I still believe this is what NS had in his bolt.
 You can check the remanence of your spike or other metal by holding it close to a monitor. You dont really have to put it directly on. Even with a magnet Ive tried on my old monitor it creates a pattern that stayed. When I turn the monitor off and back on its gone. This is a regular crt and not lcd. All you need to do is put a magnet on the metal then take it off and check it. To de-polarize use the opposite pole of the magnet and put it on about the same amount of time as you did the original pole. Ive taken laminated electrical steel cores from motors and there is no remanence at all. Impressive stuff.