Hello geotron;

I added some text to what you had as some additional explanation
of what is going on that would be of interest to one designing
this circuit or wanted to optimise it. I wouldn't call the 'C' a cathode
but a collector, equiv. to the positive side of a switch.

As long as you understand what's going on you can use whatever text
you want to explain it's operations. The extended explanation helps
explains the anomalies associated with this circuit in overunity mode.


Current Theory
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The MPS8099 NPN bipolar power transistor momentarily conducts when
it receives energy from the trigger coil, turning ‘on’ the collector electrode
from the power coil to ground. The coil will receive a current from the 9vdc
battery, as well as set the trigger coil to the opposite polarity.  The differing
flux pole causes the wheel to turn by magnetic propulsion. This Bedini motor
is called a monopole because the rotor magnets are either attracted to or
repelled by the coil, but not both. The trigger coil is a trade-off set to create
enough voltage and current to trigger the power transistor to saturation, but
not so much as to waste power in the transistor’s base circuit.
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The coil windings are duplexed on the Bedini iron core field coil. This means
they function as a transformer. The windings of the transformer will be 1:1:1 or
1:1 in which all windings will see the same peak-to-peak ac voltage on each,
but each has dc isolation from one another. This means the v. spike is seen
as a bidirectional pulse on the bridge rectifier.
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The differences between the two circuits shown;

The bottom circuit only charges the charge-battery on the peak of
the spike, when the spikes voltage is more positive then the sum of
of the run + charge battery voltages.

The bottom circuit diagram charges a photoflash capacitor whenever a voltage
of the the coil is |above| the instantaneous voltage on the capacitor. The
mechanical gearing ratio of the pulleys then causes the high voltage on the
capacitor to fire into and to charge the battery with a pulse pattern at
specific intervals set independently, but generally longer then, the base
frequency of the Bedini driver coil.
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Note: this the conventional explanation of the base operation of the circuit
but needs to be 'extended' for overunity energy application.

:S:MarkSCoffman

I've gone through a few different versions of how to properly
collect the flow of back-emf into the battery. The following diagram
will show what I ended up with - fairly straightfoward if I'm
understanding it correctly.

The second 9v battery is shown to collect foward-emf, so I'm thinking
if another rectifier and capacitor were connected in the same fashion
to the anode side only facing in the opposite direction, it would
serve the purpose of even further saturating the battery with energy
from the secondary coil.

I'm not fully certain, but couldn't the 1st 9v battery be sustained
from discharging by this method utilizing both the power and trigger
coil's bEMF energy, launching the overunity effect?

I'm guessing that the energy released from the coil as bEMF is
mostly voltage then, and the capacitor is used to condense it into
having a greater current?

My new diagram is shown below with the addition of a capacitor,
although I'm uncertain as to how to determine the correct value
that it would have to be.  My best guess would be to add a lot
of resistance and then begin slowly lifting it while metering
the result on the capacitor.

Here I've drawn another version - the zener diode facing towards
the capacitor.  Correct?

The reason I ask is, my understanding of diodes is not excellent and
at first thought it seems as though gapping over a blocking diode from a
capacitor would burn it out, although having it face the other direction
wouldn't make a whole lot of sense would it?

Using the back-EMF to supplement the batteries aside, I'm curious about
the capability of the N-Pole Motor Design herein to sustain the batteries
and work as an overunity device.  There are a few discussions going
around concerning difficulties being encountered in pursuit of building
units able to supply this effect.

I truly believe that it is possible to generate energy with this device,
although before spending copious amounts of resources in pursuit of
building it, solid facts must be known.

Previously my endeavors were to build a Gray's Tube Circuit in order
to power a Newman's coil motor, which is now set in storage until I'm
able to rebuild it in the correct fashion.

In the meantime, this N-Pole Motor is what my attention has grabbed
hold on, as it seems like a device worthy of being scaled to massive
proportions; able to supply clean energy for fueling cars, homes,
production of food, etc.

The silicon P-N junction is only activated when a potential of
16v is directed into it from the correct side, then the entire
current is allowed to soak into the 9v battery with an added
force great enough to overcome the opposing potential and then
becomes added to the storage medium. Impressive!

I've been using a RadioShack analog multimeter for a while now
as my first electronics instrument of such a type, and have
found that when using it to determine the flow of a diode, it
only shows continiuty when the (+) color lead is connected to
its cathode output side.

This has given me a lot of confusion, and I'll be repositioning
them into the correct color-polarity from now on.

mscoffman,
The concepts you're bringing across aren't wholly understandable to
me at this point, although I thank you for your help.  Eventually
when my knowledge reaches a certain point I'll likely have a more
valuable response; in the meantime though I think I'm able to grasp
the essence of what you're getting at, except for when you refer in
your note to an 'emitter coupled transistor circuit' - I'm not really
able to picture such a thing in my mind.

I've gone ahead and transformed my printout of Daftman's bifilar
motor diagram into a schematic form, and will be studying it a bit
as I have done with the one drawn by Bedini.

Due to my previous confusion with using my radioshk meter to help
explain which direction energy flows through a diode VS their outter
markings, it may be that I've thrown in an error or two.  My
interpretation of how the coils are labeled with "ST" & "SR"
indicated to me that these mark the beginning of the wind, so this
is how I have drawn it -

@geotron

There is a mistake on the storage battery diode direction. The cathode goes to the positive and is pointing away.

Also there is a mistake on the transistor diode. The cathode should point to the base and is pointing away.

Jesus

Agree.

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a) the diode attached to the base is to *keep* the trigger coil from driving
the base to a negative voltage. This is because electron "charge storage"
will build up on the base's (parasitic) capacitance. That would make the
transistor slow down when switching. The line on the diode is the line
the arrrow points to in the symbol. It means positive current flows the
way of the arrow. DVM Ohmeter leads are sometimes reversed polarity
because of an age-old convention. Use a battery powered LED to be
certain about the polarity.

b) The little waveform on the first schematic is what the collector voltage
looks like on a scope. There is no negative voltage so because the free
end of the battery is stacked up -  only when the spike goes above
24VDC will the "charge" battery be active. (again only on the AB coil
connection is there any negative voltage) Because a transformer
does not set DC bias or DC base voltage - a transformer only speaks AC
(except for DC saturation current flowing through it which we are not
using here) What you have to see is that there is no negative voltage
available to the "charge" battery. So it's really the positive spike (both
up and back down) that the "charge" battery intercepts. The charge
battery can't supply any power through it's diode.

:S:MarkSCoffman