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Offline Oxygon

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Water Wheel
« on: April 23, 2006, 04:01:48 AM »

Overbalanced water wheel...

Earthday PMM...

please respond...

looking for feedback!

In case the page goes down... here is an attached image...

and desciption

"Basically its a filled water wheel with simple bellows along its outer rim and the water excess outside the wheel causes an imbalance of lets say 56Lbs of weight onto an 8lb lower bellow... 7 to 1 ratio... or something like that... (I am no technical wiz)

you could even rotate the guide to suit the wanted imbalance...

 The water being incompressible doesn't compress... as one bellow is compressed the one on top is filled... the belows to the right of the image are compressed and kept that way by the guide...

ALL the mass inside the circle remains the same... "0% bearing on imbalance..." its just the bottom bellow and top that exchange mass... the open bellows cause the imbalance... more weight on one side... Soo many pounds on one side... none on the other...... rotation... "

Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: Water Wheel
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2006, 09:44:13 AM »
build one and we will see
« Last Edit: April 19, 2007, 12:00:13 PM by FreeEnergy »

Offline Gregory

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Re: Water Wheel
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2006, 02:13:12 PM »
Not a bad idea, but like others has some problems:

1. If the whole wheel filled with water, this makes it too heavy, and gravity act in every point of the wheel where water is inside.
Replace the water filled circle with a water filled ring with the correct thickness. (not too thick)

2. Use greater pockets if it's possible, but don't forget when the lower pocket is closing the upper pocket is opening, and in this way this procedure works against gravity, the water has weight, so you need energy to raise the water to the upper pocket, it's never rise for free, and the right side of the wheel also has a number of friction, and always takes energy to close the pockets. If the right side of the ring goes closer to the axle and becomes an ellipse, it's probably better if it doesn't take much more energy.

3. It is not too easy to make one.

I think it doesn't work on the way you designed.
I believe it's possible somehow, but believe is not for science, and not for experiments. We need facts and conclusions.
Just build one and study it. It can be useful to study one, doesn't matter it works or not.

To create an operational wheel of this overbalanced type is not as easy as many people believe. This is the reason why others never achieve it after Orffyreus.

But hey... Maybe it's not impossible!  ;)

Good luck!


Offline lancaIV

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Re: Water Wheel
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2006, 03:16:56 PM »
Probably it will be easier to build a bypass water wheel system,
wheel + a kind of hydraulic-ram-pump.
About the use of a functional Water-wheel-system:
the invention from Friedrich Koenn(Germany,DE4304312)has been realized for a coal mine(Revier Aachen).