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Title: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 17, 2010, 10:01:43 AM
hi, my name is david lambright, and i have built something interesting. these devices are based on Leedskalnins PMH. i guess you could say the devices are perpetual radiators. my devices make a visible optical distortion, that mimics a heat type wave or mirage, with out any heat....there is much more that it does, but for now, i will focus on the visible effects....i have built a rotor, with 24 steel segments, on a bearing so that it can be spun....this device radiates a visible distortion and needs no motion, no batteries, only an initial charge from a battery, like EDs PMH.....i post at EF also, i started a thread "gravity waves found" there with lots of interest....i have also built a simpler device to show this "glimmer" effect as it is being called.....there are step by step videos on my utube, potatoheadists channel, how to build the rotor device...the next type of device uses iron oxide inside of an aluminum tube bent into a circle or toroid and energized....this device produces a "lensing" type effect...i am currently building these oxide core devices for testing by members of this forum...they are very simple to build ...i have 2 spots left if anyone else is interested.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 17, 2010, 12:43:26 PM
Dave, I missed this entirely.  I need to go out - but will check in later this pm and see if I can, at least, post some links.

Well done for this.  MUCH NEEDED.

Kindest regards
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: IotaYodi on August 17, 2010, 06:17:11 PM
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that mimics a heat
type wave or mirage, with out any heat
I dont remember you saying that in your original post. Need specifics on the build. Dont suppress it but spread it. A clear concise schematic can speed the research up much faster to see if its a viable project. If You have a video please give a link.   
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 18, 2010, 10:32:28 AM
Hello Dave.  I've got 3 days of extensive work required on my thesis.  I won't be able to get back here until Saturday.  I'll at least post your video links.  But you need to engage here Dave.  That Lambright effect needs to be seen and understood.

Guys, for those of you who read here - the facts are this.  Dave has a rig that under certain conditions is able to show a 'glimmer' that is an entirely new effect - hitherto not recorded by science.  It is not the result of a Schlieren effect - of light reflecting against particles of dust or suchlike - but a unique 'glimmer' that is elusive yet entirely visible once one has 'trained the eye' so to speak.

The implications are that this may be a result of some kind of gravitational influence - precisely because it appears to 'bend' light.  But other strange effects are that it induces a magnetic response in material that is not traditionally known to have magnetic properties - string - rocks and such like.

I have myself tested this and while I do not get the light distortions I do get clear anomalous reactions with objects hung or placed in proximity.  My own rig was a variation of Dave's intended to test whether the 'Lambright Effect' related to the assymetry which was evident in his own rig.

In any event.  My time is wholly constrained for a few days.  Meanwhile here's a link and I would recommend that you look through the balance of the links there to better acquaint yourself with this effect.

And Dave, please post those new 'developments' that you've managed that people can understand it more fully.  I'll get back here on Saturday

Kindest regards,
Rosie

http://www.youtube.com/user/potatoheadist
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 18, 2010, 11:17:19 AM
rose, thanks and well said...over at EF, alex posted that this glimmer effect is well known and nothing new....i am hoping to get links to any thing similar to what i see with these devices.....i have looked but have not found anything yet....if anyone finds anything at all similar to this "glimmer effect", please post a link.....rose thanks again....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Lakes on August 18, 2010, 12:08:35 PM
Link to youtube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMmVAzngez4
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Low-Q on August 18, 2010, 11:56:53 PM
Hello Dave.  I've got 3 days of extensive work required on my thesis.  I won't be able to get back here until Saturday.  I'll at least post your video links.  But you need to engage here Dave.  That Lambright effect needs to be seen and understood.

Guys, for those of you who read here - the facts are this.  Dave has a rig that under certain conditions is able to show a 'glimmer' that is an entirely new effect - hitherto not recorded by science.  It is not the result of a Schlieren effect - of light reflecting against particles of dust or suchlike - but a unique 'glimmer' that is elusive yet entirely visible once one has 'trained the eye' so to speak.

The implications are that this may be a result of some kind of gravitational influence - precisely because it appears to 'bend' light.  But other strange effects are that it induces a magnetic response in material that is not traditionally known to have magnetic properties - string - rocks and such like.

I have myself tested this and while I do not get the light distortions I do get clear anomalous reactions with objects hung or placed in proximity.  My own rig was a variation of Dave's intended to test whether the 'Lambright Effect' related to the assymetry which was evident in his own rig.

In any event.  My time is wholly constrained for a few days.  Meanwhile here's a link and I would recommend that you look through the balance of the links there to better acquaint yourself with this effect.

And Dave, please post those new 'developments' that you've managed that people can understand it more fully.  I'll get back here on Saturday

Kindest regards,
Rosie

http://www.youtube.com/user/potatoheadist
Looks to me it is used either a heavy or lighter gas, or a colder or hotter air. Any of these methods will show a similar effect in air and sometimes hard to spot. The tube can also be very cold or heated by sunlight and the changes the temperature of the air inside it. I cannot see the special about this yet, but maybe science havent discovered these effects yet...
Please correct me if I'm wrong about my explanation of what it is.

Br.

Vidar
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 19, 2010, 06:50:02 AM
Looks to me it is used either a heavy or lighter gas, or a colder or hotter air. Any of these methods will show a similar effect in air and sometimes hard to spot. The tube can also be very cold or heated by sunlight and the changes the temperature of the air inside it. I cannot see the special about this yet, but maybe science havent discovered these effects yet...
Please correct me if I'm wrong about my explanation of what it is.

Br.

Vidar

Vidar - the 'lambright effect' - those lights - have NOTHING to do with any known effects.  They're strange.  You need to see it for yourself.  But the 'effect' is elusive.  Even replicators had to 'train' the eye - so to speak.  My own interest in this is that it definitely has a property that effects just about any kind of material put near to it.  It does not need to be diamagnetic, paramagnetic - whatever.  Strings, stones, name it.  They all become magnetic.  Very strange.

Then - the actual design is losely based on Leedskalnin's rotor.  And we all suspect that he had a handle on gravity that enabled that Coral Castle build.  I think what Dave's 'unfolding' here is possibly that technology.  It is entirely fascinating.  But you need to access Dave's rigs or duplicate this. 

I'll try and give this thread more attention at the weekend.

Regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 19, 2010, 10:10:37 AM
here is a post from EF about the glimmer effect.....QUOTE; I was in San Diego few times and didn't find that air over there much different to compare with other places in the world. So, I believe California's air has the same µ=1,00000038
(BTW, I'd really like San Diego area, Coronado island, La Jole, Balboa park, zoo. Really nice place except fire in the end of the almost each summer)
Seriously, I hope, I saw the same effect (like hot air over road) a few times when I worked in science lab where we did some special project for plane factory - vibrostand to explore load on plane's wings.
We used there very strong electro magnets (a few kilowatt as I remember). Attention to this effect was found by our technician who started worry about overheat of coils, but when we measured temperature on it, it was in acceptable range and this effect appear only when electro-magnets was activated. I should say - it not perfectly visible, almost the same as in David's video, but it recognizable if air doesn't move around and if it especially take your attention.
I couldn't provide more details on it because it wasn't part of my job. One thing that I remember - coils of magnets was driven by positive impulse with regulated duty cycle on fixed frequency.
One more thing - we used there coils with special winding - very close to that one that was theoretically explained later by Marko Rodini with his vertex math and called now as Rodin coil.
Our science team leader explained that effect as - air is a paramagnetic(few, but it is) and in a strong magnetic field change its density while attracting to strong magnet field that's why it looks like hot air mixing.
Well, this explanation was enough for me(at least) since there is a logic and I actually almost forgot about it until I eventually come to this thread.END.....i am looking into this and will post any findings...thanks, david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Low-Q on August 19, 2010, 09:11:23 PM
If I understand correctly, this effect did alter the airs density or molecular order - so to speak. As you said, air is a paramagnetic material, as all materials are I believe. A very strong magnetic field will at least try to "levitate" air too as it does to the well known frog inside a very strong magnetic field.
The air are not harmed, but its molecular structure, or whatever that happens, will change or get into order, then it appear as the glimmer effect from ambient light. (Not well explained...).

Vidar
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 20, 2010, 08:02:43 AM
this is interesting...http://www.physforum.com/index.php?act=idx.....also i found this text..START...Sir William Crookes had seen within the action space of his now famed high vacuum tube — There, suspended over the cathode, was a black space which was actually radiant. THe radiance extended beyond the tube walls in certain special instances. Sir William had no difficulty accepting the fact that this was a "space–permeating" blackness, a radiance having far greater significance than a mere physical phenomenon. ... (p257)

Electrogravitic Phenomenon.

George Piggot mentioned the mysterious "black bands" which appeard around his highly charged suspended metal marbles. Light seemed to disappear into these zones.

It was Nikola Tesla whose forgotten and ignored testimony on the perceptual effects of high voltage electrical systems, who made the most observations. Tesla produced such intense electrical arcs that the same "blackout effects" were repeatedly observed. In the case of Tesla's famed Colorado Springs Experiments, the blackout effect produced a lingering state which Tesla described as a perceptual-spatial distortion.

Noted in his published diary, the results followed the intense activity of his Magnifying Transformer. Visual distortions, clarifications, black shadows, black streamers, black waves, lingered for hours all around his plateau labroratory, whereby he stated that:

    "These phenomenon are so striking that they cannot be satisfactorily explain by any plausible hypothesis, and I am led to believe that possibly the strong electrification of the air, which is often noted to an extraordinary degree, may be more or less responsible for their occurrence."

    Invis (p265)

(p259)
STOP...this is interesting, i had never read any of this but suspected that  it must have been documented...i am glad it was the likes of Tesla and others who reported on these effects....i am trying to get the link...http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hbci.com%2F~wenonah%2Fnew%2Felectric.htm&ei=YhduTKmMJY2msQOTlZWFCw&usg=AFQjCNHOuxYvr0TwhvZH4pGa99CLTaochA&sig2=eXEDw5BPu0zbZ4iVAkHcuQ...try that link and i will be searching for more stuff...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 20, 2010, 09:51:54 AM
rose!...now we are getting somewhere!...the links i posted did not highlight but i posted the same ones at EF ....it seems that Tesla DID see something like what i describe after using high voltage..i believe my devices make this same distorting effect without the voltage or current that Tesla was using and no strong electromagnetic fields like alex described...my thoughts are that electricity and magnetism are much stronger than than the gravitational anomalies, and over power or mask them...it only manifests when there are no other fields overpowering them, if that makes any sense.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 20, 2010, 04:03:32 PM
hi........http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/history/brown.htm......scroll down to contact and read...the whole thing is a good read....now we are getting somewhere!....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 20, 2010, 04:28:02 PM
hi........http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/history/brown.htm......scroll down to contact and read...the whole thing is a good read....now we are getting somewhere!....david

The link does not work because the dots you added are now part of it.

Here it is cleaned up.

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/history/brown.htm

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 20, 2010, 04:49:59 PM
hello jesus...so this is not "new"....but it is worth exploring....i really believe we are onto something here, something big....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 21, 2010, 06:32:11 AM
David,   Thank you!   This is idea is making many of the inventions and projects here tye into the mag theory of Ed Leeds......  Bending light with only shapes            that is KISS!   Nature uses this method as the DEFAULT why can't we?  Our projects need a baseline.    Why not set our OWN current limit?   I mean why ever use more or experiment with more than you would be willing to use daily to complete your goal?     if you place a small bulb into the input circuits then you will limit the current flow as you change the blub values.   Then you can begin to check what is acceptiable and what is "over limits".
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 21, 2010, 11:18:12 AM
@ Dave

im am particularly interested in this effect while the ring is stationary. not spinning.
 It still persists, all-be-it much less intensly.

its kind of "hard to see" on the video. i was wonderng if you could talk more about this field.

it didn't appear to be "static".  was that an effect of the camera? or does that field actually move around, as if it is reacting with everything around it?

also, have you tried turning it over? so the other side (+/-) is facing up? if so, what differences did you observe?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 21, 2010, 07:41:26 PM
hi smokey...this wave like distortion radiates off my devices 360 degrees...even when stationary this is going on....what i see is like a heat type wave with out the heat...it interacts with every thing around it....quartz crystal we know is an oscillator having its own frequency...is this distortion what causes quartz and every thing else to vibrate?...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 21, 2010, 08:53:06 PM
So if everything is vibrating, due all things have poles?  So far "standard science" teaches us about differences in potentials and seeking balance.  This device will be a build for me also.   I will post results and try to capture it better on video.   Wondering if two of these devices in-sync or opposition would build on effect?  Stacked?  This will be a fun one! 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 21, 2010, 09:02:26 PM
hope, i do not know the answer to that .....from what i have been reading, electrogravatic  effects made with high voltages are dangerous.....what if my devices can reproduce the effects without the dangerous by-products?   this is very, very interesting to me.....thanks for your interest also...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 21, 2010, 09:12:18 PM
If we are seeking physical work done from our devices, using electricity is only one way of doing the job.  We are going to have to design what will look pretty weird to the masses at first. But when they understand it is just using a newly (re) found radiant energy, they will comprehend it no problem.   Our normal electricity theory based test equipment won't be of much use to us, so I look forward to the new tools we will be discovering.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 21, 2010, 10:12:45 PM
As Ed teaches us, a constant flow of electricity is not necessary to sustain a magnetic current.

if these affects are caused by the electro-magnetic features of an HV-field, then it may very well be possible to do it without electricity.

Dave,
          Your unique perspective of Ed's wheel has led me to realize something important...
An affect i observed many years ago, is in fact a variation of Ed's wheel. I had just never looked at it that way, because the physical design is so diferent.

Consider this for a moment, each of those pipe-segments is forming a seperate magnet.

N - S at the "gap". horizontally polarized.

the flux-path  creates a spherical vortex, causing this energy to radiate upwards through the center, and back around the sides to the bottom. like the EMF from an active toriod.

If you examine an arc-type path around the outside surface, from top to bottom, like in front of the "gap" that area between the two magnets is of great importance.

I would suggest tunring a permanent magnet perpendicular to this field (north and south up and down), and pass it along the arc in front of one of those "gaps". and observe the effects. if i am correct, this should behave similar to a graviational 'orbit'

I will begin construction of one of these devices as soon as possible. My idea is to make it smaller, to concentrate the effect.
and also to create one very large one (maybe 4-inch pipe?),
to observe this on a grand-scale.


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 22, 2010, 04:54:15 AM
   Our normal electricity theory based test equipment won't be of much use to us, so I look forward to the new tools we will be discovering.

It may not be as complicated as it seems.
i read a paper in the early 90's, that theorized two sides of the electrical current. 

the unidirectional force that we utilize,
and an equal and opposite force the other direction. (negative current). There was of course so physical apperatus by which to test this, all of our equipent is " one sided".


I bring this up because, as Ed states, the magnetic current runs the same way, in both directions.
It is this interaction, i believe , that is causing this new effect we are observing.
the flux paths here, are not completely closed, like in the PMH.
they are broken on the outside of the loop.
but the inside is closed.
this tells me that the two mangetic current paths should be running at two different speeds. Or at least completing their loop at two different times,. the point is, that they are not just pushing/pulling on one another, but actually passing each other.

Could this be the cause of the new "magnetic heat" ?

we need to find a way to interact with this field directly.
perhaps multiple devices, with the fields facing each other?
could there be a material, we have not tried yet, that can interact strongly with the field?


What is the outcome, when dropping 2 objects in free-fall from the same height?
one object in the earth's gravitational field alone,
and the other object falling through this new field.

do objects still fall at the same rate?
if not, this may be some form of "gravity wave radiation".
i have doubts about that line of thinking though, i do not think "gravity" comes in the form of einsteinian waves.

i believe this is another dimension of the magnetic effect.
magnetism, electromagnetism, "gravity",
and this new one that, unlike the other three, appears to be at least somewhat in the visible spectrum. or perhaps interfering with the light that passes through it. either way, we can "see" it,.
where as, we cant see the other 3 types of fields, without the help of some kind of "viewing device".

is it purely optical in nature? could this be some sort of low-frequency photon generator? like around 403Thz, just on the line between infrared and visible light?

Or could this simply be magnetically orienting the atoms/molecules in the atmosphere around the device? causing them to diffract light differently than normal "air".?

i think figuring out how to interact with this stuff is going to have to be the first step in determining its nature.


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 22, 2010, 07:09:30 AM
here is a link to visual distortions around an object being levitated by John Hutchinson     http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=60&ved=0CEYQFjAJODI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.treurniet.ca%2Fphysics%2Fhutch.htm&ei=GalwTL29OZL6swOQ3MWxCw&usg=AFQjCNEICb0eeqUopr6od2f8JfV0wBRCaA&sig2=sh4i5ooEVbDYklI58CgYlQ     i will post more as i find more !....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 22, 2010, 08:44:58 PM
Well if there is a front radiant focus maybe there is a reversed flow in the center of the device.   This observable phenomena is different than any other topic and I believe it deserves its own thread, as for me the island recyclers had the materials just a waiting for me yesterday.  My neighbor has a chop saw so I guess this will be going together soon and I will TRY VERY hard to get pictures and scan them (not digital)  I think this wave is so faint the camera makes it look like pixel variance from camera motion but it is NOT.   Even if the camera is mounted ridged this was still happening.   Can you explain how you magnetically locked the wheel again,  wire gauge..how many turns.. where..  what size battery ..... which pole to which wire?  It LOOKED straight forward, but I want to replicate your creation closely.   And as for seeing it on your videos David, I could see it best on your outside in the yard shots with you holding the rock and spinning the wheel, hope someone with a real film movie camera will capture this sight due to it's a lens device also.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 22, 2010, 09:11:33 PM
hope....i must work today, when i return today i will post the dimensions again...have you seen the step by step videos?here is the link    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjh5OE6yerk     there are 5 videos.....if you want to see the effect, you can construct my other device, an aluminum tube filled with iron oxide and energized like Eds PMH....the oxide core device is easier and less expensive to construct....thanks for your interest......and rosemary, what do you think of the progress so far?....we are getting closer to the answers that we seek.....do you think we are ready to move this thread out of the half baked ideas yet?....thanks rose for having believed in me....you are my friend!....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 23, 2010, 04:22:39 AM
Hi David,   Just the copper wire info   winds   battery volt/amps and how you make it lock magnetically  an to which poles?    OK please bend your ears a second,  today while working on this build we discovered that even in open air the dust from splitting the pipe made the fillings in our teeth galvanic   or maybe was splitting that long cavity did something.... careful .     BEST suggestion since the cutting is very slow and will take hrs,   just have it cut by someone setup for it,  it will take them minutes compared to hours and they will know how to safely handle that hard pipe.   I second your suggestion David to have a metal worker or pipe shop make your pipe into ready to use pieces. So far after 3 hrs of cutting we are half way through making the metal parts.   Will keep you informed on progress.  And a pipe (tubing cutter) cutter is great making the sections.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 23, 2010, 08:04:14 AM
yeah, im not sure how to tackle that part...

i have a nice piece of pipe, and i bought a cheap cutting board to slice a circle out of, but i dont have a saw like Dave has.,

started to tackle it with a hack-saw, but thats kind of loud here at night, so i'll get back at it when i get some "daytime" freetime.
i have a Diamond-Carbide high-speed cutting bit for my Dremmell
i may see how that goes ( after suiting up in the appropriate safety equipment).  I can easily chop a screw or nail in half with that bit, so it should cut the pipe no problem, as long as it doesnt dull it i guess.... if not i'll just man-handle it with the hacksaw.

my first thought was to search for some "slit pipe", or half-round
but i couldn't find anything like that at the hardware store.
so i just went with the fence-post like Dave used but mine is a tad smaller diameter.

i'll post on how it progresses


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 23, 2010, 09:14:16 AM
charge an object, piece of hair, styrofoam
and move it to the center of the vortex
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 23, 2010, 09:19:22 AM
a charged particle gets sucked straight down into the center, superfast, and gently floats back up around the outside, and back in again..

why does $%^!* radiate like heat??!?!??
wtf is this?

Lambright Radiation



[edit:   i took it apart. I think we should probably figure out more about what this is, or at least where it sits frequency-wise, before we continue playig with it in our homes....]


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 23, 2010, 05:02:37 PM
If we assume that magnetic radiation is a function of the change in energy levels of an electron, forced into a vectored elliptical orbit around the nucleus...

That would mean that the frequency of the radiation is (in close estimate) equal to the orbital frequency of the electron.
Which, if my calculations are correct for Iron(Fe)
would place this right around 281 Gigahertz.
   give or take variations in magnetic field intensity (mass dependent?)

thats somewhere between microwave and visible light.

the electric-charge vortex is a different effect than the radiation, more of the cause really... i dont know what effects this radiation might have on the human body, or objects placed into it.

i need to do some more research before i continue to experiment with this. I had a whole slue of tests lined up last night, to include numerous types of materials, lasers, electro-static discharge, temperature monitoring a suspended container of water in the field.

but what ended up happening, was i stared at it for a while, stuck my finger in it,. held various objects in the field and watched it stretch and flow towards them.
began a series of charged particle tests, then got spooked by the stuff. i didnt want it radiating around me, not knowing what it was.... so i took it down for now, until i learn more.

At this point my focus of study is going to be in the 281Ghz range
This is theorized off the Bohr atomic model, to be the frequency of a magnetic field, radiating from a magnetized iron atom.
Using a technique similar to the emision of lazer-light frequencies,
the "magnetron" uses the frequency of a ceramic-ferrite material to produce radiation in the microwave frequency range.

The Lambright Radiation, if it is indeed from the oscillations in the magnetic field itself, would be actually considered "microwaves", but approaching the edge of the scale to far-infrared light.
something we call "milimeter waves" (EHF), noted because of their wavelength. Interference patterns within the field could easily explain frequency-peaks exceeding the low end of the infrared scale, which would correlate with the type of visual effect we are observing. (magnetic diffraction?)

If this is the case, then this radiation would be relatively harmless to us. (may cause cancer in small laboratory animals) virtualy identicle to what we use for long-range microwave communications.
except that this is completely incoherent, being that its an interference pattern.


but , like i said im not entirely sure on this yet. so i'll need to learn more before i continue experimenting with it.



Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 23, 2010, 05:53:27 PM
there'd be a real simple test for this....

If you can get your hands on a PV-cell with low-iron glass
these are generally more expensive, but are known for their ability to pick up on, not only visible light, but also IR light as well.
these are called "high-efficiency cells", or full-spectrum cells
(even though they are only partial spectrum, because our ability to manufacture products makes it difficult to assemble a cell that captures the UV specrum)

or remove the cell from a calculator and swap the glass from an IR transmitter (rectualanger I-C chip), should be able to come up with two that are close to the same size. just swap the glass it should work fine.

If IR-radiation can be recieved from this device, it would prove this as a viable solid-state power source. Because, by definition, the PMH will sustain its magnetic current indefinately.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 23, 2010, 07:49:15 PM
hi everyone...i made another aluminum tube/oxide core ring but this time i put a coil of copper wire inside the tube before filling it with oxide...i drilled 2 small holes in the tube for the wires to come through ...after i energized it with a coil around the outside of the tube, i checked for voltage from the inner coil...it seems there is a small constant output....my meter is not very sensitive, but it looks like a very tiny constant flow of energy...this device is a fairly crude proto-type......the wave form that radiates from these devices is the same type that Tesla was seeing,the same that alex from EF saw...both of them saw this after high voltage, current etc.  Tesla noted gravitational effects in some of his tests....Brown also described gravitational effects....Leedskalnins generator is a PMH that is able to spin that visible distortion wave into a vortex, but without the high voltage that others have used.....i do not think the high voltage is necessary to get the gravitational effects that they describe.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Low-Q on August 23, 2010, 08:23:19 PM
I am very keen to see what these findings has to do with free energy. Is it a static field, or can it be harnessed to run something?
Interesting thread btw :)

Vidar
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 24, 2010, 05:40:47 AM

there's an electric charge'flow through the center and back around the outside. the direction of magnetism determines wether it flows top to bottom, or bottom to top.

the way mine was set-up, a positively charged particle is sucked down into the center, like a toilet-bowl, swirling around.
then pushed back up around the outside. (see picture 1)

the radiation and this vortex are clearly two seperate effects.

it makes sense to me that a stationary coil would pick up a small degree of this action, but i think there are better ways to harness this.

the best logical solution, that agrees with the mathematics
is the propegation of the magnetic moment.
this generally only applies to "radioactive elements", but it appears in the case of a magnetic current loop, the ferromagnetic material becomes "radioactive".

look at picture 2 and 3, when the magnetic moment occurs at TDC, where its magnitude is the strongest, it sends vectored field of the north polarity in one direction.
1/2 a cycle later, it occurs at BDC, and sends the south field in the other direction.
Now, while this occurs locally relative to the atom,
to us, observing the entire mass simultaneously,... we observe the "wave" of magnetic moments occuring one, after another after another, in both directions. north and south. just like ED said. the apparent motion of the wave is caused by the delay in the material as the original magnetic current propegated through it to start the PMH loop. This locked the atoms in synch with one another, offset only by a fraction of the initial propegation delay

This is of course, only an "apparent wave". Its not actually flowing through the material. which solves my first problem.
       - the relativistic one
i think the second problem can explained by the input energy,
but it only works out if we assume the ideal superconductor.
the electrons have to be elevated into a higher energy state to set them in an oscilating eliptical orbit.

we observe this magnetic current in perpetual motion.
so, does that mean that the magnetic current, turns the metal into a "magnetic superconductor"?
or is it simply that magnetic current doesn't incurr resistance in the same way that electricity does? ( i may have decided on the 2nd choice as i type this)

but here,s my best visual representation to describe what im talking about here... notice that the propegation of the "imaginary wave" is in the same direction during both halves of the cycle.
but on the lower half, the direction of the magnetic force is negative, little mind boggling..


 



Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 24, 2010, 06:09:01 AM
smokey! ......mere words cannot convey my thanks....and i must say you are right, these devices must be tested to be "safe" as far as what energies are are being radiated....please be careful when replicating any of these devices....smokey, this radiance is something pretty interesting, i will think you will agree...did you get my PM that i sent?....if you have a working replication of my device, and you have "felt" the anomalies with quartz or metals, i want you to try something that will blow your mind, not literally of course, but you must keep an open mind, and you have.....but i think you will find this almost unbelievable!.......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 24, 2010, 07:17:15 AM
@ Dave

This whole thing has been amazing to me. i have to admit it was a bit spooky at first. but i think ive wrapped my head around this enough times, that i dont need to go buy a geiger counter just yet..

im fairly certain this is on the tail end of the red spectrum, so its relatively safe. but there are a couple concerns.. i'll draw a picture of the waves, to show what i mean.

i dont have any good quartz,
what little bit i had collected over the years was turned into quartz powder when i was experimenting with quartz-doped
oscillatory semiconductors. (long story)

if i need to i can find some more.
What is this other amazing thing?
      have you done anything with aluminum?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 24, 2010, 07:56:43 AM
here, i didnt feel like drawing one. so this will have to do.
this is actually from a quantum light experiment, but the images look identicle, so here you go

an estimated assesment of frequencies involved here
your main three are going to be 281, 562, and 140 Ghz
that last one is potentially harmful at high power levels,
like standing in front of the transmitter antenae
but it shouldn't be dangerous from anything we're going to get off a 6 - 12 v battery.

i still have to cut the pipe segments, i may go about that differently, by just cutting a slit down one side of the whole pipe.
then cut it into chunks.
pry them open a bit.
instead of trying to cut the pipe into a bunch of 1/2 segments.

my small one concetrates the effect nicely. i fabricated it by hand out of a high-permeability sheet metal, with tin-snips and pliers.

i have it completely dissasembled. still debating wether or not to conduct these experiments inside an old microwave housing or something, to try and isolate it to some degree.

i also worry about interference.  technically the FCC has no jurisdiction over non-moving permanent magnets, but something like this may cause the rule-book on that matter to be reassesed.
what i worry about is it going to interfere with anything nearby..
like somebodies remote controlled device, or the neighbors pacemaker... is it going to cause abnormalities in my childrends DNA replication, resulting in cancer 30 yrs from now?

i dont have these answers completely. and this is like a little man on my shoulder telling me not to play with this stuff.

then i have this other guy, whos sitting there like " thats so KEWL! how can you NOT want to play with it?"

im still on the fence on this one, but im leaning towards
 "relatively safe to proceed with caution"

i mean, i could wear a lead suit, and have all kinds of instruments monitoring my surroundings and do this with a 10-ft pole.
but then again, walking across the street in broad daylight could prove more lethal...

my free spirit tells me to go for it, but the little voice that has kept me alive for this long, says theres just something wrong here...







Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 24, 2010, 08:10:52 AM
Not to sound too stupid, But I would like to replicate this, but have seen no plan or detailed description to enable me to do that.

Is such information available?  If on another site, please list a link and I'll run over there.

I'm VERY eager to see what interactions there are via basic electrical interactions, as in, what levels "Overload" these intrinsic ones...

Any information would be appreciated!  (I'm thinking inverse control...)

ok, FIRST you need to understand what the Perpetual Motion Holder is.  Ed Leedskalnin gave this magical wonder to the world.
its basically a metal loop, with a piece that can be open and closed like a switch. Ed used a seperate metal piece, called a "keeper", its like the bar you see across a "U"-magnet
a coil is wound around each end of the loop, opposite the gap.
and wound opposite one another, to form two electromagnets.

when current is sent through the coils, and the "keeper" is in place, a magnetic current will develop through the entire loop, holding the keeper in place. even after the electricity is shut off.

After you understand this simple concept
then go to Dave's YouTube page and watch all his videos.
he shows a few different ways to make the PMH.
its all the same concept, just applied differently.

this new device is modeled after Ed's wheel, found in coral castle

Dave added his own creativity to it, and discovered that it radiates energy.

its a very simple design, and Dave walks you through the building process in YouTube video. plus several other videos of him playing with it. I have to tell you, what you see in the videos doesnt do it justice, you have to see this for yourself. (all words of caution i mentioned above still apply)

This is Scotty demonstrating a PMH holding a 23lb weight,
    with magnetic current.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZdEJALdiQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZdEJALdiQ)

and this is Dave's chanell
http://www.youtube.com/user/potatoheadist (http://www.youtube.com/user/potatoheadist)







Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Low-Q on August 24, 2010, 08:59:08 AM
A coil should not be able to pick up a constant current flow. This is the biggest problem of transformation of energy. Energy is dynamic potentials. If this potential is almost not dynamic at all, it is hard to harness anything at all.
A moving coil should do a better job in a static field. However, picking up energy will provide a counter force that wants to fight back. It will be interesting to see any result on this.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 24, 2010, 09:41:34 AM
smokey2!.....OK you got past the spooky part....is your replication able to spin?...if so, take a piece of aluminum and hold it near the spinning device...you should feel a subtle push/pull effect on the metal....any metal really...remember what Ed said, "it likes to flow through metal easier than through air"......OK, so now a little more spooky action at a distance, so to speak...go to my utube channel and find "DO NOT TRY THIS!" video.....hold the metal near the image on the screen.....the energy that these devices emit, can be reproduced as easily as a video! my best results were with a mineral galena, a lead ore.....this really does work and still trips me out every time i do it....i better check and make sure that video is public....it was shot in UV.....interesting....also i have succeeded in making aluminum foil magnetic, enough so to stick to a magnet...jetijs over at EF has done the same thing with pop can thickness aluminum!....and heated the metal to near its MELTING point, way past any Curie point, and still retained its ability to stick to a magnet.....smokey2, thanks again for posting....if you like this, there is more......david....almost forgot, to make the magnetic aluminum, put it inbetween the keeper and the U of a PMH and energize it...keep it there a while 15 to 30 minutes should do and viola, there you have it!......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 24, 2010, 09:48:04 AM
My friend just came by a couple hours ago and we have (just like yours smokey) slit a pipe and made 48 sections    2inches long   but 1.3/8 inches dia rings  which we to will pry open if testing needs it.    Maybe tomorrow we will have a working model.   Thanks!    and have little fear of this device, Ed Leeds.. didn't die of cancer or grow horns or go blind.  But if you pump it up to HF  then the effect certainly may become a concern to quickly for me.  I also found copper and galvanized conduit clamps i want to make one with as a variance to check for shape and spacing.  We will get some 35mm film shots and scan them, in hope that  you can see this flow of fluid looking energy  (kind reminds me of when I had a magnifying glass and could see heat waves thru the lens while burning something).  Surely this type of shape is repeated many places in nature so we would already know if it is harmful it would seem.  On last thought,  smokey is bright and is correct in his cautions.   My friend and I will keep our models small for now till more is understood of this wavelength.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 24, 2010, 11:43:58 AM
thank all you replicators for your interest in this subject...as time goes on the results of your builds will show many more important effects...i chose to go open source so that this discovery will not be slowed down...there are modifications i can tell you to " boost" the wave form if any one wants to know, i will post how!....the oxide core devices work like a lens, with no glass or other medium, just air and space!....i hope to post a build on them soon..... david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ramset on August 24, 2010, 03:59:00 PM
David,
Very cool what you are doing here![Open source]

Have you ever put a piece of Gold close to your rig?

Chet
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 24, 2010, 06:51:06 PM
jesus....OK, so give me a little while and i will send you a device!.....it does not weigh much, so shipping should not be a problem....thanks for your interest...david

@lambright
Hello first!

I would like to know if that offer is still valid.
Or if it was just ...

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 24, 2010, 07:53:21 PM
chet...gold has some strange properties around these devices....my brother has a tungsten wedding band that seemed to spin way way longer near the device...all metals behave strangely in the field...i will post more about it soon...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 24, 2010, 08:09:36 PM
jesus! ...most definitely i will send you a device!...i feel that it is safe enough...i must first send a device to jetijs who lives in latvia...but not to worry , i have yours ready to assemble and charge, and i will charge it and make sure it works before i send it to you OK....thank you for your interest jesus...you wont be disappointed......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 24, 2010, 08:38:07 PM
jesus! ...most definitely i will send you a device!...i feel that it is safe enough...i must first send a device to jetijs who lives in latvia...but not to worry , i have yours ready to assemble and charge, and i will charge it and make sure it works before i send it to you OK....thank you for your interest jesus...you wont be disappointed......david

Thank you @lambright!!

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 24, 2010, 10:29:03 PM
@ hope,
i thought i read somewhere that Ed did die of cancer..
  wether or not it had anything to do with magnets,
  i dont really have an answer for...

a week ago i probably would have said no, but since then i have learned that magnets can radiate energy when an active magnetic current loop is flowing.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 25, 2010, 09:38:49 AM
Really,   OK!   i am going to be more cautious then.  David  we have the upper part built but no metal center fastener  or lower metal mass which must be important.   A large mass of iron (Engine block on Ed Leeds..) must be there to collect maybe some other form of radiant energy.   So when Ed talks of ring the bell perhaps it means charge the device by cranking till the bell hammer is magnetically pulled to the side of the bell touching the metal of the bell.  Back to a device question. We made a plywood center will this be ok you think David?  Can you show a you tube presentation showing if that energy wave is present when you don't connect to the base?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 25, 2010, 02:08:41 PM
hi hope...i dont think that plywood, hdpe, matters...i made a small, 2" diameter, model that has no center but still works....i was thinking that this radiation/device wants to seek equilibrium ...on Eds device, the engine block and on the top the chains and pulleys, looks like they might have been equal in weight, but not symmetrical or equally spaced above and below the device...i think that this flow wants to be at the center of mass, what did ED say about putting the wire IN the metal?...i also think ED used his device to spin this energy/radiation into a vortex that tried to pull down on the overhanging mass of chains etc.......this radiation is energetic and has a motive force, that is gravitational in nature, i believe, and ED used this to build his castle....a gold ring tied to a string and held around my device has some odd effects.....i believe that metals act like filters allow only certain waves to pass, like we use lead to shield....i filled the cavities with foil and it seemed like the effects were a little different...i am trying to get bismuth in a tube or hollow toroid to make one of my oxide core devices....the aluminum ones act like lenses....i have been working on no glass/media, just air/space lensing, using these devices...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 25, 2010, 06:08:47 PM
After this build is up and working I think i will try to make one out of PVC and face it with aluminum foil and place foil above and below it as metal mass (filter).  I too believe the different elements all act as "filters" (collectors) of separate or multiple individual wavelengths.   I know of no way to "stack" magnetic charges,  maybe Ed Leeds.. did.   It would only be a matter of matching the charge of the earth back upon the item he wished to move (like charges repel) possibly.   I hope this energy fluid IS the magnetic charge becoming dense enough to be seen.   It would certainly open an new field of science.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 25, 2010, 06:34:11 PM
dave I didnt read everything but you are awesome your next step is discharging the energy
thats the key you polorised the aluminum the rocks I havent seen but i did that with a antenna hung the rock but take the store magnetic energy back to below it flipping the poles taking th eenergy from the north pole to the south pole the amount you can store and the amount you can remove is the amount you can lift
you real close dave.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 25, 2010, 09:38:05 PM
@ Hope

i can confirm what Dave is saying,
    The test-version i built the other night was just sheet-metal bent into (almost) cylinders with nothin in the middle, i useda rubberband to keep them together until i charged it,
then took the rubberband off to see that they were actually magnetically linked to each other. thats how i knew it was "on".
once i pulled it apart, the pieces were no longer magnetized

Just like the PMH

the insulator dave uses (HDPE or whatever) this is much different than wood.
most plastics seem to have very little attraction to the energy.
but minerals and organic substances attract it very well.
look at Daves videos when he plays with wood.

i think using a wooden center might create a short-cut path for the energy to flow through.thats just my theory though.

i know having a center to the device enables you to make it spin.
but what im interested in are its solid-state applications.

like a Zero-Point module. athough that cannot be used to properly explain this device, because according to ZPE theory, at a temperature of 0 Kelvin, this device would stop emmiting energy alltogether.

So, from a scientific standpoint, Lambright Radiation will have to be explained by an entirely new theorem. One which should undoubetdly include Ed's model of Magnetic Current.




Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 25, 2010, 11:15:35 PM
Maybe by charging a capacitor and then letting the fluid energy pour over ONE lead the charge on the cap may gain or lose potential.  This may give us a hint to its polarity and if it has electrical potential at all.   I am still building a stand  (getting the fan off this bad alternator is harder than I thought).
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 25, 2010, 11:49:01 PM
seriously who took down my post oh well antenna rock rodin coil wood contains the frequency
the rock polorizes like ed door self centers energy
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 26, 2010, 02:41:59 AM
Wehave the 24 sections made and sanded very well, but we are not doing something correctly. Can't get the ring to magnetically lock.     Are you just coiling shellac-ed wire 20-30 turns and shorting that battery to the wire ENDS? Our plywood center is a little smaller than needed so it is not preventing a solid fit of the pipe sections.  The sanded areas are very smooth machined and should provide for near total contact per section.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 26, 2010, 03:02:18 AM
I have the 24 sections made and sanded very well, but I am not doing something correctly.  I can't get the ring to magnetically lock.     Are you just coiling shellac-ed wire 20-30 turns and shorting that battery to the wire ENDS? My plywood center is a little smaller than needed so it is not preventing a solid fit of the pipe sections.  The sanded areas are very smooth machined and should provide for near total contact per section.
it doesnt have to be perfect. of course that will always be better, but as long as they are touching all the way around the circle it should lock.

you need a pretty heavy wire, 22g didnt work at all for me.

hang a small magnet over the top, slightly off-centered.
you'll see it turn another direction once the device is charged.
and the pieces will become magnetized. adhering to one another.


if you still have trouble, theres a couple things you can try, one is to use a stronger battery.

the second, if you coil a wire in the opposite direction around the piece next to your coiled piece, and connect the two wires front to back, back to front.
then touch the battery between the two joints.
this will double the power

possible causes::  segments not in full-contact
                         not enough induction current/voltage
                         too much permeability in your pipe.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 26, 2010, 04:02:39 AM
If you reverse the winds then double you
magnify tesla 369
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 26, 2010, 04:23:07 AM
Ok  our wire WAS 22 gauge!  Will find heavy wire and try again.  And will charge with my car battery.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 26, 2010, 09:17:11 AM
hi everyone!.....smokey, thanks for helping explain how to charge/troubleshoot the device....it really helps having another person to share their point of view...did you try the image thing i told you about?...it really does do what i say....it makes sense that this radiation is in the optical range and reproducing the image also reproduces the radiation from it!....and to jesus... i will send you a device by monday...i just sent one to jetijs in latvia...Ed was from latvia also!....i know that you guys will test these devices, and will find out more interesting things.....i cant thank you enough!...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 26, 2010, 09:43:27 AM
.

Quote
i know having a center to the device enables you to make it spin.
but what im interested in are its solid-state applications.

i know that photonics technologys will like this energetic radiation...i think it will be easier to "aim" this with their latest wave guide tech.....remember my post about fiber optic cable/energy transfer at EF.....smokey, try aiming a laser at the device, holding it very lightly.....if you notice anything, please post.....and again smokey2, thank you.....david....i was only trying to quote smokey2s interest in solid state apps......the rest is my post ???david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 26, 2010, 10:10:51 AM
i posted this at EF PREVIOUSLY...................you know, an ED style PMH emits this same radiation, even with a steel U and keeper...just energize one and watch it. if you rotate the PMH slowly, you might start to see it, very, very subtle, like in the peripheral at first, then when you realize what it is, you start to see it easier and easier.....did you see the OU posts?...i am not sure if toner vs. oxide will work....the oxide works, with an aluminum tube....i am sending jetijs the device with the internal coil, sorry jet, but today, wed. aug 25, 2010 i will put it in the mail, i had to work late.....i wonder what would happen if someone wrapped a rodin around an oxide core device or now about using ferro-fluid inside a hollow aluminum toroid and THEN putting a rodin coil on it!.....i know you can get a magnetic lock/flow with off the shelf FF......a small C shaped steel with 3/16"gap, 20 wraps insulated wire, submerge gap in FF and energize...the FF will bridge the gap or magnetic lock, that is the lock/flow i refer to....smokey2s posts at UO might shed some light or radiation'....the fact that Tesla saw this type of effect is significant also.......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 26, 2010, 03:59:30 PM
@ Dave

the ferrofluid gives me some ideas..
you could put it into a clear plastic tube
like those glow-necklaces.
be a trick to get it 100% full, but once you do and seal it up,
you could energize it, and have a liquid PMH
and see if there was any motion of the fluid.

or like i mentiond earlier, a solar-cell that can pick up IR light would be a real simple test that would clarify 99% of our questions.

If you could pull that off, and definitively prove the radiating energy, they'd put yur name in the history books right next to Rontgen, Becquerel, or Marie Curie herself.


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 26, 2010, 11:25:39 PM
Yes glow neclaces work I poweered my black light boat with them
in tub also a spral puls coil with a
tight wind around one wire gives it frequency
pulse propulsion the glow was pretty cool i use a
neon tube you need a black light no
phosphur interuption of double
reaction
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 26, 2010, 11:33:07 PM
Plus the green ring around the
black light stabalized the spin
im shure you can improve it maybey the glow lights are the
ac battery they are storing radiation
of light light is power power is ac and dc
well anyways email if you Got questions
I did over a hundred bulbs and warped some pretty good
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBQC1V59Cy4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

i use light but you dont need light just frequency
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 26, 2010, 11:44:34 PM
Im sory I didnt see your question about the rodin coil
yes i wound a coil like rodins but my own the string theory
design around the black light tube
onected one end to the two pongs across the to the other side
but oval then one in the center and one around
the amount of winds determins direction
it cannot touch the side of the tub
its has to float in middle but actually when you get it just right it wont touch the firberglass it has a static barrier
but then i put the glow sticks around that coil and it went pretty good the
fiberglass charges energy and the coil absorbes it i had to test inside due to feds so it fucking really limited what i could do with light
but a sun tracking device or a battery
can give you ion prolulsion direct thru the water
thats why i designed the ion tesla turbins
but thats to far ahead we need a gap between
to kill oil im workinh hard on that
bridging both technologies is very difficult
i think with the ion propulsion I can set the land and air speed records
but i need something called a air bearing
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 27, 2010, 12:01:43 AM
hi everyone!.....and to jesus... i will send you a device by monday...i just sent one to jetijs in latvia...i know that you guys will test these devices, and will find out more interesting things.....i cant thank you enough!...david

I am full of excitement. Like a child waiting for Santa.

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 27, 2010, 12:36:45 AM
The Black rings are a result of
frequency exactly equaling on both sides
this is hard to explain please try to set aside
and listen I created a black hole
funneling frequency to earth 1.7 miles
this eventualy would radiate the earth rock to a plasma
volcano teslas coils did the same when the remove
so much frequency from air the frequency
colides creating a perfect reverse of a light
that light is then in earth the plasma a volcano
now due to radiation problems I figured out how to stop
the funneling or radiation its not easy
to do weeks of water charge it to the earth let rain settle it
eventualy I would not have been able to stop it
but I did it interferes with the sleep something between the awake and
alseep it vortex the energy this has to do with
why newton tesla and einstien cant sleep well
also me so when frequency equals
you get black on one side light on other
I did this to for my dad becausd he explained light alwats over comes
darkness I explained no not when the frequency
of two lights are the same the sun and earth magma
match you get dark in the middle the face of the deep
the space sorry i know Im doing a horrible Job
dont know how else to try to explain it demonstrating it is stupid
due to amount of energy to do it. Bassicaly the amount tesla had
the clossest thing would be haarp
but with no capacitors but rods to earth
the batterys
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: bmlobo on August 27, 2010, 03:33:26 AM
There is a blog with new ideas, it is pretty good. the link is below.

http://freepowergeneration.blogspot.com/

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 27, 2010, 03:52:21 AM
hi ....i have some cheap solar cells, i do not know if they are the right ones...i will be checking...i found some large aluminum tube, 1 1/4"...it will have to be machine bent into a circle...but first i must make jesus's oxide core device...tonight...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 27, 2010, 06:26:42 AM
Dear Dave,

I have just dipped in here for the first time in a week.  And I promised I'd get back here last Saturday. I'm so sorry - but I see that this thread has taken off and that it's getting the interest it deserves.  Very nice.  ;D

I'm knee deep in all kinds of things.  But it's to do with magnets mostly and I'm probably tied up again this weekend.  Just KNOW.  You've inspired me to try all sorts of things and I'm entirely satisfied that you've got a real EVENT in that Lambright Effect.  Keep up the good work.  When I've got more time I'll fill you in on where I'm going with this.  I might add that you work has also obliged me to rethink the structure of a toroidal field. 

Kindest regards,
Rosie

@cletushowell - I wonder if it would be better to keep this subject on topic.  I periodically dip in to read your work - but I'm not sure that it's relevant to Dave's subject here. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 27, 2010, 07:13:16 AM
hi ....i have some cheap solar cells, i do not know if they are the right ones...i will be checking...i found some large aluminum tube, 1 1/4"...it will have to be machine bent into a circle...but first i must make jesus's oxide core device...tonight...david

Dave,

what i mean about the alimunum, was to put it into the field.
and observe what happens, copper would have a similar effect
perhaps do some voltage measurements across a pirce of metal, one end in the field, one end outside.

my daytime is complteely consumed by work right now, so i havent been able to finish cutting my pipe pieces.
so i may experiment with a few other design ideas i have. out of parts i have laying around, until i can cut this pipe come more.

Dave, your concept of the PMH as a "toroid" has opened this thing into a whole other realm. when Ed wrote about the horshoe-shaped device, and i saw other people's builds of the PMH,
it never even crossed my mind that his generator itself was a PMH!!!
the looks are so much different, but when you think about it "magnetically", they are exactly the same.

We can build this in virtually any design.

 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 27, 2010, 07:53:30 AM
hi rose....it keeps getting better!....i am making an oxide core device for you/colleagues to test...jesus, your device is finished!...it goes in the mail tomorrow!.....i mailed jetijs his device yesterday......i will get to matt soon also....where is bruce?....i know he has good oxide, from his videos, has he made an oxide core device and is experimenting with both devices!!!   really i do not know what has happened with bruce.....thanks everyone.......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: jermutin on August 27, 2010, 08:40:23 AM
there's an electric charge'flow through the center and back around the outside. the direction of magnetism determines wether it flows top to bottom, or bottom to top.

the way mine was set-up, a positively charged particle is sucked down into the center, like a toilet-bowl, swirling around.
then pushed back up around the outside. (see picture 1)



Let me get this straight. :)

Did you sm0ky2 set the device up, and test it with a charged particle, and the particle was sucked in to a vortex in the center of the device, and went through, and then it came up around again?

If this is the case, this is some heavy stuff here!

I know it has been mentioned somewhere in energetic forum or here, but what was the exact specifications and quality of the iron tube again?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 27, 2010, 09:22:27 AM
Had to beat back the world awhile today but am still at it, the base  doesn't seem important at just making the effect (it may in magnetic amplification though) only the shape and magnetic lock.   Will get pictures posted a.s.a.p.  Hello All, from the American San Juan Islands.  Today was perfect weather and we got alot done outside and my friends Lambrite Device is ready to be put together tomorrow if all goes normal.   Thank you All     next (besides studying the effect)  We will also see about making a tube device also         )))
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 27, 2010, 09:32:18 AM
@ Jermutin

yes, yes, and i dont know - refer to Daves videos

the first thing i noticed was a piece of hair getting sucked off of a metel i was moving through the field.
i thought maybe just some static effect.

but when i moved onto the static-charge tests, the styrofoam niblet performed nicely. it went around twice, much faster through the center, and slowly around the outside back up to the center again. then it got stuck to the bottom inside the center, on one of the "tubes".

the test model i was using was an inconsistently-shaped contraption bent out of sheet-metal.
the metal alloy is designed to contain a good portion of the flux path, its used for EMF/RF shielding in high-power electronics.

the exact size, i guess will depend on what we do with this thing.
the larger it gets the more intense the radiation.
the small it gets, the more concentrated it is.

so i guess it could have differing potential.

i havent found a way to really interact with this radiation stuff yet.
it seems to "slowly attract" to almost anything.
theres a few man-made inorganic substances which it seems to ignore...  i need to do the light tests, i have some precision lasers i can mount them to pass through the field at various angles and distances.

and of course some coil arrangements can't be overlooked.
this is definately ground breaking stuff dave is onto here.



Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on August 27, 2010, 11:38:37 AM
   Radiant energy or radiant matter?  Matter which has mass bends light. If matter can absorb thermal photons why cant matter absorb lower frequency photons.  This matter then caused to emit the stored photons in a vastly shorter amount of time then it took to absorb them.  The energy appearing to come from thin air when it was actually stored in thin air.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ramset on August 27, 2010, 02:36:47 PM
Sparks
Qoute:
The energy appearing to come from thin air when it was actually stored in thin air.

---------------
I like the way that sounds!

 little fuel cells![every where]

Chet
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 27, 2010, 10:56:07 PM
There may actually be a relationship there.

sort of the fundamental engineering of matter itself.
the stars create matter by resonating a local region at a specific frequency, based on its constituents and their conditions.

this frequency determines the type of material that is produced by the fission.
i think what we are doing here, is tapping into this frequency and causing it to resonate within the material.

i just found this today
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1990Ap%26SS.168..293B (http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1990Ap%26SS.168..293B)

these equations are the same that i used a few pages back, just in a different form, when i was trying to determine the frequency of this radiation.
"Magnetic frequency of iron" if you will.

According to Harvard, this is the same frequency the sun was resonating at, the moment these atoms were formed.
its amazing to think we might actually be tapping into this frequency.


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 12:15:40 AM
Having a bad day as always when you want to learn how to contain
controll and reverse thr radiation
ill be here playing stupid trying to
recreate all the things you guys know
off the top your head like how to activate a strobe light
to build the plasma to oscilate the 369
and some how the activation is the hot spot on
morays light bulbs but you all know I dont know how to wire the strobe
bulb or change its pulse to make my electronic
distributor for my wireless ac unlimited energy
so i just keep fucking throwing shit
till i fucking figure it out you radiation controll is water i tried to post it yesterday but the whole thing was wiped by goverment
im not retyping it here it took to long for nothing
ch@helpuflip.com
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 12:27:15 AM
When you want to find the frequency of the two stars
all energy comes from
the 144,000 go search decibel
then you see a guy that built a system
simular to haarp on a rotating
bearing he tuned all the frequencies
and found two left thise two are the dog wistle and the
144,000 tje dog wistle is the green star you only see on the west coast when it crosses the ocean at just the moment the sun sets called green flash the other star is the red star is so far you can see it
that start frequency is everything
but either due to goverment or
just stupidity they cancled his testing
because it did not intefere with the telegraph lines
but its actualy the reason the telegraph worked
but no one will get that ill see if i can find the link 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 12:43:09 AM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Guthe_Jansky
heres the guy
this is not his orginal device
this is a cover up his fibdibg was not the milky way
either
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 12:56:19 AM
http://www.nrao.edu/whatisra/hist_jansky.shtml
i find it interesting
he was in a depression and were in a depression
and now finishing the work he started
they killed why did they kill a fucking frequency
so they can charge us for energy thats why
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 28, 2010, 02:19:01 AM
Thank you @lambright!

I am building a variable capacitor with some pieces of aluminum I had around.
The purpose is to test if using a coil and that capacitor (if the capacitor does work) and put it not far from the device and see if I can catch the energy that it is radiating.
Maybe I need to add a diode or two...

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 28, 2010, 05:40:43 AM
ive been running some calculations on noble gasses

it seems that krypton-chloride would give us the best reactivity with this radiation. im going to see if i can find some, in a neon-tube or something. round, like the letter "O" or whatever.
then build the device to fit the neon

i have this image stuck in my head of that thing from the Iron Man movie....
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 06:12:49 AM
I already did that polarity i told you I have every antigravity
polarity email you see Ill send you the suit
i defined thr flying triangle too so it can be pulsed to one from
4 yoi guys are catching up fast check out my
self oscilating overlimt wireless dc
feedback system its tight as shit
keep up the good work email me serious ill give you the polarity for the suit
ch@record7.com
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 28, 2010, 07:15:44 AM
Looks to me it is used either a heavy or lighter gas, or a colder or hotter air. Any of these methods will show a similar effect in air and sometimes hard to spot. The tube can also be very cold or heated by sunlight and the changes the temperature of the air inside it. I cannot see the special about this yet, but maybe science havent discovered these effects yet...
Please correct me if I'm wrong about my explanation of what it is.

Br.

Vidar

Hi Vidar,  I'm actually going through this thread to get up to speed and saw this from you.  Apologies for not answering you before.

I think the 'light' or, as EF.com refer to it 'the Lambright Glimmer' is simply the most extraordinary property of this rig.  In the first instance it is absolutely NOT a schlieren effect - as tested and proven.  I built a version of Dave's rig and did NOT see lights - but I have seen that glimmer off a video on Dave's youtube.  I'll post a link again when I've finished here.  It is readily evident to some people - but apparently not to all.  And there are those, such as Bruce (who was the happy recipient of a prototype) who first did NOT see it and then DID.  Meanwhile his family saw it clearly and 'first off'.  Definitely elusive.  I wonder if we are somehow being 'educated' into a new sensory capacity.  But that's definitely off topic and I digress.  It just reminds me of those people who can detect the early stages of milk turning - and others who simply cannot. A kind of something that is 'genetically' determined - perhaps?  Just don't know. 

Then.  There's the simple fact that any object - regardless of it's magnetic properties or lack of them - simply gets attracted or repelled to various parts of that rig.  And this much I have definitely seen.  It's mind bending.  The actual field on the rig has yet to be defined.  I'm going through some really involved tests to see if I can find this - definitively - but it's a long haul.  If one bears in mind the short duration of applied current - as required to secure the 'lock' then the fact that it should evince any kind of continued magnetic property - is extraordinary.  A small compass in the centre of the rig goes haywire - indicating that there's definitely a polarity or a magnetised condition to the rig.  But nothing actually 'sticks'.  Not even iron filings.  I'm still reasonably certain that the entire rig holds the secret to Leedskalnin's miracles at Coral Castle.  Somehow he used this force to enable his control of stone blocks that weighed up to 30 tons - I believe.  In fact the door to the castle may even weigh more.

But I think Sm0ky may be wise to exercise a little caution in getting this into full functionality (if there is such a word).  This simply because Ed died of cancer - and I would be very wary of what seems like some real energies.  We all know what happened to Madame Curie.  But - having said that - on the level that this is being investigated - then I also think it's relatively harmless.  Certainly I didn't experience any headaches or any harmful effects.  I'm still testing.  But I'm testing around the concepts rather than the concept itself.  I'm entirely engrossed in this subject.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 28, 2010, 07:54:47 AM
If we are seeking physical work done from our devices, using electricity is only one way of doing the job.  We are going to have to design what will look pretty weird to the masses at first. But when they understand it is just using a newly (re) found radiant energy, they will comprehend it no problem.   Our normal electricity theory based test equipment won't be of much use to us, so I look forward to the new tools we will be discovering.

Well said Hope.  I entirely agree.
Kindest regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 07:58:50 AM
Seriouusly you guys are getting on my nerves I already gave you the whole code all the math here and on coral castle video the formula
and most important the carvings the
unified feild theory the carvings are the whole key
bit carving a radiated rock is fucking stupid
i finished his book I gavd you all the answers
polorise charge remove
circle the rock
remove to earth polorises it stop remoning charges it
then remove it to earth put frequency below lifts the rock
but remove excess weight by carving it
determine hoe much radiationit stores by the amount of moisture not yo much girls drop the rock by adding more watter
you can never move his castle till you move the capstone
 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 08:01:36 AM
But daves coool still because he opened your mind
even if it requires you staring at haloes
to think its the answer
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 28, 2010, 08:02:32 AM
hi everyone...jesus, your device is in the mail!...before i sent it, i made sure that it was fully functional!...i showed a few people who saw the "energy" field, so it is good to go!....the lady at the post office said maybe monday!...smokey2, i was wondering if you could possibly take some pix of your setup? if not, that is OK....i must say i like the way your mind works!...you rock!....rose, i will make your device tomorrow!...and about ED...i heard it was malnutrition that did him in, i do not know...whatever it was we all must be careful....rose, this oxide core device will be able to show this radiation easier i believe, at least it has so far....i will email you with some funny stuff....you will get a kick out of this, but you probably already know!....this thread is getting looked at...i watch the numbers of views per day and  :) :).......what gets me is how this discovery ties into so many things and people!...Tesla, Leedskalnin, Grebenov, Bearden, Brown on and on....i am writing a text with all the names and the ties to this discovery,  i must post this too...when working on an early PMH, circular, one junction, i was playing with a laser and discovered that by moving the beam across the field, i could create a pulse that could be felt by everyone in the room!... and we felt the difference in pulse if the laser was moving vertical vs. horizontal....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 28, 2010, 08:10:05 AM
Thank you @lambright.
God be blessed!
Lets see what happens!

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 28, 2010, 08:10:58 AM
Seriouusly you guys are getting on my nerves I already gave you the whole code all the math here and on coral castle video the formula
and most important the carvings the
unified feild theory the carvings are the whole key
bit carving a radiated rock is fucking stupid
i finished his book I gavd you all the answers
polorise charge remove
circle the rock
remove to earth polorises it stop remoning charges it
then remove it to earth put frequency below lifts the rock
but remove excess weight by carving it
determine hoe much radiationit stores by the amount of moisture not yo much girls drop the rock by adding more watter
you can never move his castle till you move the capstone

cletushowell - may I repeat this.  If You understand everything about this phenomenon then PROVE IT.  Build a replica of coral castle - single handedly and at night.  Then I am sure we will ALL respect your claims here.  Until you show us this evidence DO NOT subscribe the scope or interest that any one of us may have in this project.  You see.  You may very well be wrong. Certainly your logic is difficult to follow.  And you rather sacrifice a certain clarity in your evident need to rush to these postings.  And I'm not sure about Dave - but I for one, am sorry to see these littering what would otherwise be a really interesting thread.

Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 08:15:17 AM
I laugh at you like ed
when you give up come see me I aint got shit to prove
but watch you fail thats my comedy channel
have fun
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 08:17:05 AM
By the way its cletus edward howell
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 08:22:27 AM
And im not movimg rocks
im movimg mountains
maybey watch the seizmegraph on mount saint hellens
and the marina islands earth quakes i did
aug 13 and i set in place the frequency fir the guiness
book world records the largest quake ever
its building energy now pulling from all the fault lines
till it gets enough for 12
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 28, 2010, 08:24:29 AM
@ dave

i can put back the together the one, its still sitting here.
but i really want to make some that are "better" or whatever.
lots of ideas running through my head about this, but i'll pick two or three to start with, and get pics/video up here.

that laser you talked about, is it an actual laser?
  or one of those LED-keychain deals?
and could you describe a bit more about what you did to cause that?

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 28, 2010, 08:28:10 AM
and i set in place the frequency fir the guiness
book world records the largest quake ever
its building energy now pulling from all the fault lines
till it gets enough for 12

and when is this quake supposed to culminate?
is it going to hit the states? or did you direct it at some south american country you felt was less worthy?
or did you create it in the middle of the ocean, to create 200ft tidal waves on every coast?

could you teach me how to do this?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 28, 2010, 08:36:07 AM
hi everyone...jesus, your device is in the mail!...before i sent it, i made sure that it was fully functional!...i showed a few people who saw the "energy" field, so it is good to go!....the lady at the post office said maybe monday!...smokey2, i was wondering if you could possibly take some pix of your setup? if not, that is OK....i must say i like the way your mind works!...you rock!....rose, i will make your device tomorrow!...and about ED...i heard it was malnutrition that did him in, i do not know...whatever it was we all must be careful....rose, this oxide core device will be able to show this radiation easier i believe, at least it has so far....i will email you with some funny stuff....you will get a kick out of this, but you probably already know!....this thread is getting looked at...i watch the numbers of views per day and  :) :).......what gets me is how this discovery ties into so many things and people!...Tesla, Leedskalnin, Grebenov, Bearden, Brown on and on....i am writing a text with all the names and the ties to this discovery,  i must post this too...when working on an early PMH, circular, one junction, i was playing with a laser and discovered that by moving the beam across the field, i could create a pulse that could be felt by everyone in the room!... and we felt the difference in pulse if the laser was moving vertical vs. horizontal....david

Very interesting indeed Dave.  I'm just delighted that this has captivated Sm0ky - as I think we're all relying on his input here.  I've just looked through the entire thread and find nothing to follow as a schematic.  Can I ask you or someone with dual membership to post over some of Jet's pictures?  Better still, can you persuade him to post this here for us?  There are members here who still don't know what the initial rig is.  I'll be able to post my own versions thereafter - but don't want to 'confuse' anyone as my own are variations.  And not that effective.   And I'm lost on the requirements in your latest rigs.  Many thanks indeed for agreeing to send me one?  If you can give me an idea of the shipping expenses I'll try and get you refunded. 

Dave - what intrigues me most are the implications relating to 'gravity'.  As you know this is my entire obsession.  And I do think the early clues are in these multiple 'Lambright Effects'.  I've been doing some close analysis but it's not really conclusive yet.  New tests designed and I'll get the schematics here.  May be as early as today.  I'm praying.  LOL

And thank you again David.  May I add that I think you are an exemplary member.  You never take offense - you stick to the point - and you're anxious to share.  We all owe you - big time.   ;D  The more so as you've given me, personally, a new lease on life with all the questions that you've raised.  I LOVE questions.

Kindest and best
Rosie

edited
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 28, 2010, 08:52:04 AM
hi cletus...i do not mind if you post, i do like the way you put it all together, i think you have linked it.....rose, dont mind him, it is the gremlins we must keep an eye on, thanks for watching when i was busy/distracted...you are a friend!...i will be ready to send a OC device to you by monday, if you want...i checked at the post office and it will be only 4 or 5 dollars US to send it to you...i got that covered...i just wish brucetpu would send the device to matt...i mean that he wont stall this from moving forward, but it would improve the ride!....any way, i will post again tomorrow......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 28, 2010, 09:12:52 AM
its tomorrow somewhere!..i had to answer smokeys post!...the laser...the one i used was a cheapy laser level...i moved the beam back and forth and up and down around the PMH ring, and it seemed that when the beam[laser] encountered the field[radiation]is when we would feel the pulse!...... i know it sounds odd, before i posted anything about this, i made sure that besides me at least 5 others felt/saw/experienced the effects i talk about on these forums.....even now, i sometimes have to "pinch" myself, by doing the tests again because it still is bizarre what this energy does!....i must post more videos next week on the oxide core devices and the effects....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 28, 2010, 09:16:14 AM
it seems many have the same questions...
first i'll send everyone to HERE.
http://www.youtube.com/user/potatoheadist (http://www.youtube.com/user/potatoheadist)
he explains every detail of what and how its build.

next i'll give my interpretation of the critical components and open the door to an infinite number of possible variations that could be explored.

essentially you have a circular path for the magnetic current to flow around. AND appendages to the flux-domains, in the form of "C", "V", "U" shaped pieces. the idea is to split the poles by extending the flux-domains.

the grey ring in this particular set-up is imaginary, its formed by the back side of the pipes. but this gives a clear visual of the magnetic arrangement.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 28, 2010, 09:21:25 AM
Ta muchly, Sm0ky.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 28, 2010, 09:36:25 AM
the laser...the one i used was a cheapy laser level...i moved the beam back and forth and up and down around the PMH ring, and it seemed that when the beam[laser] encountered the field[radiation]is when we would feel the pulse......

thanks.  thats very interesting stuff.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ramset on August 28, 2010, 02:59:38 PM
Loner,
Good to see you having fun in the sun!
{sunshine might help results?}

@Dave
Can you post the link to the info Rose refered to at Energetic forum?
Jetis Info?
Thanks,
Chet
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on August 28, 2010, 04:03:26 PM
     The often discussed radio frequency identification tag is an overunity device.  The passive radio transmitter uses ambient radio waves to "collect" energy.  The transmitted frequency is received by the passive collector.  It then uses this collected energy to transmit a signal at a different frequency to a receiver in the system that decodes information stored in the chip.  This technology is the descendent of Russian spyware.  The device originally collected sound energy.  The small transmitter powered by microwaves and converting sound waves to rf amplitude modulation.  The rf is then filtered out or waisted in the receiver leaving the low frequency signal in tact.  The Russians were using wireless energy transfer way back in the 60's.  Now imagine the same sceanario but we call it solar collectors.  The absurd thing about the solar technology is the scource is so arbitrary.  Whereas molecular induced radio signals are all over the place.  em radiation is not energy it is an energy carrier.  Anything in motion tends to stay in motion including the electron.  When it slows down it emits a photon.  The photon is like an inertia particle.  So when an inertia particle is absorbed by an electron its mass is increased.  This increase in mass disallows it from residing in the orbital shell of the atom it is bound to,  The electron skips off the neuclear gravitational field instead of continually falling towards the neucleus and then converting this change in absolute inertia into an "energetic" return to the orbital shell.  It is like a spacecraft taking the heat generated on rentry and converting it into thrust to return it back into orbit.  If the spacecraft suddenly gets an increase in mass the rentry becomes a launch;  The electron orbital is continually morphing at tremendously high frequency.  When the orbital morphs to the point that it is expanded beyond the gravitational field of the neucleus then we have a free electron to play with.  The free electron is no longer influenced by the gravity of the neucleus but is free to receive inertia particles or gravity force from other mass transmitters.  This assignment ot charge this whole electrical force deal is bullshit.  There is no positive charge or negative charge or charge carriers or any of that krap.  There is no need to unify the forces if you dont seperate them in the first place!  Why would two objects with mass suddenly form this mysterious thing called charge that would make them forget about acceleration due to gravity and just be repelled from each other.  Two electrons without an external force will be attracted to each other.  .  Then we finally get the admission from scientists that electrons in a plasma form of matter loose their charge.  Where did it go.  I hope it went back in time and took out the warmonger elitist who theorized that there were two forms of electricity moving through a conductor.  Fucking idiot with the kite and the string in a lightning storm.  That evil asshole couldnt figure out anything beyond smooshing around paris getting fat while people froze to death in a revolution instigated by business men who were tired of paying taxes to a commonwealth.  He half listens to the scientific rumors running around Paris about Voltaires work supposedly flys the kite (which I seriously doubt because he wouldnt put his personal ass in that kind of danger duplicating an experiment that had already been done in his favorite vactionland France) and the stupid sheeple call him the father of electricity.  He is the father of confusion that has hampered scientific advancement for 100s of years.  I do not know where this notion of charge originally came from but it did do a good thing.  Einstein trying to unify the forces got a clear picture of an uncharged Universe.  His theory of general relativity didnt unify the gravitational and electrical forces it just prooved there was no electrical force.  TBrown and Tesla both knew it as did Crookes and Faraday.  Tesla increased and decreased the mass of his antennaes.  This increased and decreased the gravitational field propogated by mass.    He harnessed the clockworks of nature.  Clockworks hmmmm.   When you have a cuckoo clock every few days you have to lift the weights which then makes the clock work.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 28, 2010, 04:58:18 PM
@ sparks

i think Dave's device may be causing an effect similar to the RF ID tags, and certain satellite chips.

but instead of amplifying an external signal, its amplifying the signal of the atoms and producing an exterior effect.

the polarization of the electron orbits, causes their tiny fields to radiate in unison, and be emmitted as one strong combined field.

this is very similar to the action of a radioactive element.

there is a "magnetic current critical mass" at
approx. 2085 Kg, that will vary greatly using compounds of less than 96% iron content.

thats humungous for anyone that doesnt understand.
like a PMH the size of a pick-up truck.
and there is likely to be stages inbetween small and large, where "other effects" may begin to produce themselves.

at the levels we are working at, there is no change in temperature, very minimal interaction with other fields.

but as the strength of the field increases exponentially with its distance from the material, so does the fields affect on the area surrounding it.

This radiation is mass dependent, not charge-dependent.
the electrical impulse only needs to be strong enough to overcome the materials resistance to being magnetized.
Which, i havent been able to accomplish this yet - but we should be able to start the current flowing using magnets, instead of an electrical coil. (how? not sure...)
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If you look at dave's videos where he magnetizes pieces of material that are generally considered "non-magnetic"

the magnetic current flowing through it, causes the material to resonate at the frequency/orientation of the radiation.
This in effect, makes them "magnetic"

i believe this is only temporary, as the electrons in the material will eventually reallign themselves along their original vectoral path. That is of course, assuming that there was no permanent change in the magnetic domains of the nucleus.
Which is entirely possible, but would again depend on the mass of the device, and the mass of the material being  "magnetically converted".

im interested in what will occur as we increase the size of this

but i caution building anything larger than the chair you're sitting in, at least for the time being....






Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 04:59:33 PM
Ya dont mind me rose
sorrry a little drunk after my electrical overlimit joe type cell
im not doing rocks i started a 1.7 mile black hole doing
that project spun for two week vortex
the subcountious
it was all in the leeter i typed goverment erase
basicsly thats why its moved to a hill
the radiation onece funneling eventulay
cause a volcano
I spen two days trying to lift rocks and about two weeks trying
to figure out how to reverse the black
hole then I decided it was a kinda dumb
projecf to charge the rocks unless your harnessing the power
theres no use but to build a solomon
pyramid but i did the solomon fomula
sent it to the great pyramid video and
then realized these tidal waves and shit are from haarp so
instid of charging the rock im just releasing the already charged rock
so when they play ther haarp
it just recharges the fault lines
no I dint hurt no one mine is controlled
but im am frustrated on that 12 seizmograph
quake I did notice i got mount saint hellens moving
its suppost to move two miles
the only cool thing i did was charge grangcanyon
so aremegeddon should land directly
between the ocean and river like a magnet
marina islands is deepest part of the sea
put grand canyon right in middle
has after the rock is soaked its no longer
radiant or polorised the amount of water changes the gravity
basicly making it heaveir on one side
you have to understand
--++
++++ the top is polarity right thru middle
but also thru the side gravity is not one
direction its not just down its sideways
the reason it still takes the hot air ballon
proposion to go sideways you can call
it drag but gravity is drag.
The most important thing your doing and is really cool
is controll polorising things not typicaly considered
magnetic
the reason is your taking the neucleus
and lining up the six stars of the attom
there five pointed stars that make star of david
watch the key of david videos
when you line these up
you are creating the polarity
of the atomic structructure thing you dont
think are charging have two much water
give them more time the water will
evaporate if you lose the charge mist it
it pulls the water to middle emidiatly
how i radiated my elebow throwing fire
basicaly i did like the whole experiment on
myself stuck one hand in water and other by tv
turned it on and of watched the sparks fly
but instid of polorising my
arm my elbow was bent it some how sucked
all the water like steriod and blew it up like ballon
painfull as hell you know why it blew up like a ballon
--++
++++ its expansion on the top
hot air ballon the coral castle videos
you see my post as i did everything
anyways Im here to help you try not to
make my mistakes I was using a antenna
do my radiation was probly way higher
and combine with the black hole mess probly
effecting all my testing as well you need
like that flywheel to charge the first circle
below the rock sorry i forgot the math i did it on
the ed riddle and corral castle video
its telepathic when you get it to lift
I know that Doing that was how I proved E=mc2
wrong but that was a late night basicaly
his metal room is the control
room  well here ill link you to a few things
 Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2DrR3AYY8Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
this is what your doing but way less power
circling energy polorising
understand the earth as its energy
increases gravity increases
your house you might not be able to over power
the ground thats why hes on a hill
the black hole spins opoosite on a hill
vs flat land
this is what your doing in frequency
of radiation but puting the energy thru
the bottom of the rock think of the bottom of this cup as ice
evaporating and condensing all the time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky2h1L__i_o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
this is a attemp to explain how you need all the laws
of gravity to do this not just the apple falling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrAF3jh2LOY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

i think this is the video explaining the stars i did a bunch
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q38dmoKGAEQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

this should help you understand his
book I dont have his book and never read it but i do know
what he did theres extra parts in the magnetic
drawing i saw online




Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 05:42:07 PM
Oh when you carve the
rock better wear safety glasses
the radiation burns your eye
if you do burn your eye dont worry its not ruined
just do like jesus did to blind man
remove the energy backwards I used a black
Bible it absorbed the radiation
reverse took about a hour though
jesus used mud the same way your storing energy in
the rock he polorised the blind mans eyes
but took twice first time he saw man as trees
thats probly a code he probly didnt see any men
but energy the cross
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 06:04:49 PM
Wow spark that was a lot did I upset you
I already stated theres no negative energy
in fact the neucleus is not neutral either
2.1 is exact middle + two energies
- one energy negative is called one
but there is no negative I tried to explain
this the neuclues is the frequency
so what did eienstien split please tell
me a frequency hutchesion splits frequency
all day and even puts papaer through it
eistien split the hull of the ship put people in it alive
splitting a attom is a myth the nueclear bomb
is a myth its a way to get money and scare the shit out
people every country has caught on
theres no nukes every country thinks
theres nukes and scared to death some one
is going to build one they cant its impossible
to split the atom if you split 2 energies it becomes
1 if you split 1 it becomes 2
so ya they probly got really charged plutonium
radiated rods that have enough energy
to burn and melt but first day im on the Job
no fucking scientist is getting a penny for there hydrogen
bombs they call nukes if you split a atom
then you have particles smaller then the attom and a whole different
structure that cannot conform to the key so im telling you they didnt
split shit if they did prove it to me a gas tank blows up
that dont prove you split a atom
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 06:19:31 PM
Beings your cussing ben your actualy right but
you have to think totaly backwards
the kite and key is not harnesing energy
is giving it to the water in air
its essentialy radiating earth but radiation
is realy removing energy which is why you sun
burn then blister first the radiation
burns your skin then the burnt skin attracts water
the kite and key was not taking energy
from the sky to the earth it was taking
energy from earth to the sky
haarp is the same its just wrong
there antennss are way to low
the energy comes from earth
to the capacitors then the capscitors
when i reversed the frequency of earth
on aug 14 bascicaly cut the connection of the grounding
rod by essential being no ground sending or discharging
all the caps to the space in reverse pretty complicated
essentialy that crosed the atmosphere because there was not enough
water to absorb it and sent it to the sun
which caused the solar flares and shut down soho
or however that thing is and haarp on
same days
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 06:37:33 PM
I dont understand daves device or maybee I do
better then anyone the answer is the reverse
of the hutchesion crystal instid of injecting frequency
to lift the ice cream you polorise the ice cream
from the middle its reverse so your not pushing
it your pulling it but when you pull it just right
the polarity becomes the plasma feild
now if your inside that feild or on top of it
then its telepaticaly controlled
whe because you eliminated the
hutchesion crystal the external power source
so sending the frequency and
created the ice cream polarity to
receive and send its own
im not on the team im young and you guys are ahead of me
but I have the answers how you build it
determines what it does
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 28, 2010, 06:59:31 PM
Clet pls create your own topic,  and if you reversed the earths polarity on AUG 14th  then the magnetic containment fields across the earth would have been disturbed even disrupted.  So I doubt you did this, Chicago is still here.  The anti matter created and stored there is still there.  You need to see a doctor or get a vacation.  Please create your own topic...... stop leeching attention off this one.    If we are interested in your discussion we will comment and view it.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 28, 2010, 07:22:34 PM
Update on our efforts to date,  the pipe pieces all cut and slit.  To widen the slit to 19 mm we drove a wood splitting maul into the slit forcing it open.   This method bent the pipe unevenly.  The sides touch but not as they could if they were uniform.    The ring hasn't "locked" even with repeated attempts.   But one interesting effect has been to repell my friend who worked hard on this device  (not good).  The pipe we used is VERY hard and maybe the problem.    At one point I did have a effect on a swinging magnet, it settled down from a swing to a spin which took along time to stop.  I wonder if anyone has wound the copper coil around the diameter of the ring and energized it "locked"   will it interact with another ring then?  Many times the thought of 90 degree angles of chain links must be a key to stacking magnetic charges. Does anyone get this feeling also?   Ed Leeds.. was very thrifty, if chain was able to do it...  well he had plenty of it.  Does anyone have 2 PMH idenitical made to try a 90 degree experiment with?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 28, 2010, 08:32:42 PM
hi....to clairify....jetijs over at EF was able to make soda can thickness aluminum stick to a magnet....and when heated to nearly its melting point, it still maintained its ability to be picked up by a magnet...also when playing with the quartz geode, i "felt" some cooler and warmer areas above the rock...2 inches or so...when i first was experimenting with a PMH, i noticed a cool sensation around the ring....just some info....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ramset on August 28, 2010, 08:40:49 PM
david
Quote:
hi....to clairify....jetijs over at EF was able to make soda can thickness aluminum stick to a magnet....and when heated to nearly its melting point, it still maintained its ability to be picked up by a magnet...
-------------------

Can you post a link?
Thanks
Chet
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 28, 2010, 08:42:42 PM
Hi all, I finally managed to get one picture up.  Many more to come.  But I'm struggling through these upload systems.  Just bear with me if it's a bit disjointed. 

We're in the process of building this.  So far we've got the widest 'outer cup made.  I've taken it home to test and here's the thing.  We arranged the magnets north/south/south/north - around the rim of the cup.  I was experimenting with the fields and will try and do a video on this tomorrow.  The facts are that pencils, string, EVERYTHING responds as if it's entirely magnetic.  Its EXTRAORDINARY.  I got hints of this in a previous rig.  This one was intended to test the opposing fields to see if this could be the actual config of Dave's magnetic fields.  I now think that it might be because when the magnets were aligned north/south/north - there was no evidence of the same effect.

It's an ENTIRE variation to Dave's set up but it's precisely the same principle.  I'm sure Sm0ky you may see this.  There's a hidden 'repelling field' in Dave's rig which I picked up on in a defined analysis of the field.  I'll try and find that exercise. 

We also built the middle cup - but the rim to hold the magnets cracked and broke.  I think there was a flaw in the material as it chipped earlier. 

Very intriguing.  You'll see what I mean when I do the video.  It's wierd.  I saw it before but never so marked.

Regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Jetijs on August 28, 2010, 08:46:54 PM
Hello all. I will now post pictures of my setups.
It is a shame that I can't post pictures as is but just links. Anyhow, here you are:

This is the very first one:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/587-liedskalins_004.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/590-liedskalins_008.jpg


This is my second rig:

http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/598-liedskalnins_006.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/155-liedskalnins-002-1_old.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/157-liedskalnins-003-2.jpg

This is the big one:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/151-liedskalnins-001-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/594-liedskalnins_003.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/593-liedskalnins_002.jpg

Here are some PMH's:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/156-liedskalnins-003-1.jpg

The third one made from metal tube David sent me:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1229-leedskalnin-008.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1230-leedskalnin-009.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1231-leedskalnin-003.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1233-leedskalnin-003-1.jpg

Another variation of the third one:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1239-leedskalnin-003-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1240-leedskalnin-004.jpg

Very big PMH
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1244-leedskalnin-006.jpg

Another variation:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1246-leedskalnin-010.jpg

First laser cut wheel:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1252-liedskalnins-004.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1253-leedskalnin-001-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1254-leedskalnin-004-1.jpg

Three laser cut wheels:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1255-Liedskalnins-004-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1256-liedskalnins-008.jpg

Hope this helps

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 28, 2010, 09:07:40 PM
his is the very first one:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalins_004.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalins_008.jpg


This is my second rig:

http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...alnins_006.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...-002-1_old.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...nins-003-2.jpg

This is the big one:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...nins-001-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...alnins_003.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...alnins_002.jpg

Here are some PMH's:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...nins-003-1.jpg

The third one made from metal tube David sent me:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalnin-008.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalnin-009.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalnin-003.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...lnin-003-1.jpg

Another variation of the third one:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...lnin-003-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalnin-004.jpg

Very big PMH
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalnin-006.jpg

Another variation:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalnin-010.jpg

First laser cut wheel:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...alnins-004.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...lnin-001-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...lnin-004-1.jpg

Three laser cut wheels:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...nins-004-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...alnins-008.jpg

Hope this helps


Ans this is the link to the whole gallery where these pictures are among others in a random fashion.
Jeti stuff: Jeti stuff » Viskas
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 28, 2010, 09:13:00 PM
JET - HI AND WELCOME.  I cannot tell you how I missed your input.  I've also been struggling to get my pictures up on this forum.  But Jesus has helped me before and HOPEFULLY he or someone - maybe Wilby - could help us all out here.  It would be excellent to show them without disappearing into a link.  Guys - anyone?  Please rally if you can.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 28, 2010, 09:29:09 PM
GUYS LOL - these are ENTIRELY the wrong pictures.  Abject apologies.  And I can't delete them.  Hopefully Harti can do this when he gets back.  Really sorry.  I'll try this again in another post. 

Hi again,

Just more images of different configurations that we're also going to try.  On the 'staggered series' you must imagine two layers  or one cup on top of another to create a 'near sphere'. 

Kindest again.
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 28, 2010, 09:47:12 PM
@rosemary

Here is the first schematic you did of your three cones device.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx223/aetherevarising/DSC00173.jpg

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on August 28, 2010, 09:59:30 PM
  @Cleutshowell

     You are working on this probelm from a mathmatical perspective.  Some are working on it from a physical perspective and some are working on this problem from a experimental perspective.  We all need each other and are listening. 

  @Smokey

     I had a similar effect  manifest but did not have infrared sight.  I used the only thermal sensor on hand which was my hand at the time and stuck my hand inbetween an iron coil being pulsed at 30kv over ground and ground.   The iron coil was mounted on a 1" thick piece of uhmw plastic.  The ends of the coil extended through the plastic and when energized two plasma jets were emitted from the ends of the iron coil.  This was not the usual spark we see in spark gaps or wires shorting out.  It closely resembled the light emitted from a plasma cutter/  This was not an arc induced plasma carried to the work piece by the ionized compressed air it appeared to be going into the coil and not radiating out of the coil.  The steel coil ends where the light turned to white showed absolutely no signs of heating when examined but there was the light and the sound with no current between anything.  The coil was being pulsed positive,  Anyway I stuck my hand about 12 inches from the jets and to my surprise a cool breeze was flowing.  Not only could I cup the ion wind and feel it slip around my palm my nerve endings picked up a weird sensation I had never felt.  It was like I was radiating cold.  There was a counterflow of energy in that area around the light emitted from the ends of the coil.   The events following this experiment were a huge concern to me.  They could have just been conincidental and not linked at all but enough for me never to repeat the experiment at least not at 30kvpp.  There was no way no how possible for the current draw needed to pulse the open circuit with low frequency that could have effected this much cooling of the medium.  It was like opening a freezer door and the cold dense air inside the freezer heading for the ceiling instead of heading for the floor in a continual stream.  A one ton refridgeration unit could not efffect this much thermal exchange never mind an open circuit.  I believe the ion wind was a loss of density of the air molecules surrounding the pulsed coil.  Unlike a jacobs ladder where the ions float up the ladder creating the plasma conductor needed to complete a circuit these ions were floating up because they were being generated far from the coil at ground level and floating up and out of the ground electrode at a distance not allowing for any discharge current to form because of the insulating properties of the intervening unionized air molecules and the pulse frequency.  I believe that if I had infrared glasses on I would have seen a black zone emanating from the ends of the iron wire coil out into space and then ending where things started to be warm enough again to emit thermal photons not being absorbed by the radiant matter.  This would involve not seeing something that you should see with thermal imagery that the matter is not allowing through.  This is not reflection or refraction but absorption of the photons by the matter where they remain in the matter increasing its mass.  According to the famous equation of Einsteins Mass equals e divided by c2.  Not alot of energy is needed to alter the mass of something.  Alot of energy released when going the other way.  What gives where is the energy coming from.  Again when we convert energy into mass we need very little.  Yet when we convert mass into energy we get alot of energy.  Do you see where I'm coming from.  There is a huge trade deficet.  What gives where is all the extra energy coming from?  Einstein figured it was inherent in the spacetime continoum itself.  When mass warped the spacetime continoum it increased the density of the energy in the field of the mass.  This energy density then is relative to all the rest of the disposition of energy throughout the Universe.  This deep understanding of the nature of things flew in the face of thermal dynamic theorists that could only perceive mass in motion as being of energy.  The timing of the events could not have been any better.  The established physicists at the time were busy going about the tasks of the warmongers and didnt have time to bury Einstein in an avalanche of bullshit supporting their conservative positions.  It is almost like an angel slipped in and let Einstein out of the cage we find steadily being reinforced by the mindcontrollers.  So guys like Bearden are correct we live in a sea of energy.  This sea at various states of density depending on the mass to spacetime ratio.  The ability of man to create mass and then destroy mass is a huge technological breakthrough. 
  Will our civilization survive the understanding of nature of a poor patent clerk traveling on a train or will it fall into dark ages where this knowlege will again be lost but to a few "wizards" enslaved by the adorers of darkness? 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 28, 2010, 10:17:05 PM
@rosemary

Here is the first schematic you did of your three cones device.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx223/aetherevarising/DSC00173.jpg

Jesus

Hi Jesus - thanks very much but I think you've misunderstood me.  I'm really anxious that someone get JETS pictures posted on this thread.  It's REALLY difficult to get these pictures up.  Can you help us out here?  They're brilliant illustrations and Jet's work is ACE.  Would be SO nice to give it due reference.

By the way,  You'll see I've been going through a learning curve here.  Felt smug with my first picture but then messed up badly.  And I can't delete it so will need to ask Stefan to do the necessary when he gets back.  I can't even modify it to take it out.  LOL.  Abject apologies to all. 

Kindest regards Jesus,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 28, 2010, 10:30:22 PM
 
 
  Will our civilization survive the understanding of nature of a poor patent clerk traveling on a train or will it fall into dark ages where this knowlege will again be lost but to a few "wizards" enslaved by the adorers of darkness?

Hello sparks.  That was an extraordinary account you gave us there.  Very interesting indeed.  I'm reasonably satisfied that if we survive these changing paradigms then the interest in these subjects is now so wide and widening - that I doubt anything will again 'disappear'.  I certainly hope so.   And that, obviously, depending on where this quest of ours ends.  Personally I'm rather hopeful that we're very much on the right road.

Regards
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 28, 2010, 10:46:53 PM
No im done making threads you ask me to make a thread
every one does then when i do they bitch
im not here to please you or anyone dont make your own if you dont like people posting on it expecialy when i give you the answers
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 29, 2010, 02:34:47 AM
...  I'm really anxious that someone get JETS pictures posted on this thread.  It's REALLY difficult to get these pictures up.  Can you help us out here? ...

Kindest regards Jesus,
Rosie

Do you mean to post the ones that he posted the links?

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 29, 2010, 06:07:01 AM
@ loner

i hope im not further confusing the issue, this is really trivial.
but i'll give it my best shot to explain...

the magnetic current is flowing in the direction of the magnetic field from the coil. in a circle, through the "back sides" of the pipes. the inner diameter of the device.

the appendages that stick out are like sticking a metal pin into a magnet. the side touching the north side becomes south and its opposite end becomes north.
and the same witha a pin touching a south magnet, it becomes north, and its opposite end becomes south.

don't let the two "pieces" fool you,
they both act as one magnet, half of the pipe, with half of the pipe next to it. they are polarized where they touch each other.
Even numbers are like i draw here.
in an "odd man out" scenerio, the current will adjust itself so that it hits twice in each appendage, but on the sides instead of once in the middle. im not gonna draw that...

its like shifting the position of the pipes by half a pipe.
in respect to where the flux paths cross it.

This may turn out to be important information the more we delve into this problem. but keep in mind these field domains are almost completely contained within the metal mass.
the field does not extend very far. its like a super-Neo.
the flux lines are just barely along the surface, but mostly entirely contained by the metal. So this is not hmm....
"useful"?" to us really..... anyways

heres my not-so picaso






its n-s-n-s-n-s-n-s

the sides adjacent to one another are both an extension of the same flux path, so they are both the same pole.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 29, 2010, 06:13:37 AM
Smoky im not trying to be a jerk i did nothing
in math i ran all the test i even completed the power of the
ark of the covenant
made a magnetic feild and wiped the whole block
every computer every hard drive
the camera systems you guys are
playing with magnets when you understand
magnet energy comes from frequency
and i seperated it using salt and water which are opposites
you see i reversed the entire block
synced every smart metter like pendelum
clocks on the wall like i said I stoped testing due to radiation
and magbetic feilds doing a lot of damage
you can ask me anything you want I have all the answers
it has nothing to do with math I test about
14 hours a day everyday when I take a break I write these
emails trust me I even finished work
something to do with nazi bell experiment
I dont think you guys get it
but every day I get degraded
i watch the time travler video
on you tube I explained that too
i warped time already just like einstien
and when you see my earth battery
was way more then free energy you see my 1.7
mile black hole was plenty to warp
i did two days And dont care to do anymore of that
you need a v shape like philidelphia hull
noahs ark was a time machine einstine proved that
by the way its also 144,000
frequency add the time noah was on the ark till the rain and dry land
and his age you see then times the cubits
minus the one cubit window 144,000
the animals were invisible like
einstien and bermuta triangle
search my warping a light bulb
you see I put it for kids.
Bend light a v and by the way I know who built philidelphia
and the uss liberty the reason it was gunned down
by israel because it was malfunctioning
making it apear and disapear
so the markings were not identifyable the gun
shots were static not gun shots it was a mistake no one knew
they were testing invisible technology
the ships were used to get prisioners out of war succesfuly
why obama took that shit off and lets our ships get hit by north korea is a fucking joke. Anyways off topic im here I tested it already
no i didnt lift the rock why I dont know
maybee one day ill mess with it again
good luck to you maybee when free energy is done
ill play but well be at war by then
my job is the war of tubal ezekial 39
the chief prince of meshech
the war of Gog and magog and tubal
were pretty much set with everything to win the war
i have so much technology
Edward is leader of the west chief victor in end war
 In hebrew my goal is to do this as peacefull
as possible and try to keep us food and energy
that requires finishing the free power
because I know what electromagnetic
feilds do and I can make massive ones
enough to wipes cities of hard drives
i can circle frequency between two phones and drop
satalights or direct eartg quakes its stupid
how much power i have really stupid
no one should have as much information
as me it makes my life miserable
you know how many times they tried to kill
me already they even hit me with
a pink drug from hittler comes from a berry plant
i reversed that they left a v on my back
4 ml narcan to your heart is like 1000 volts
for 2 hours i lived
they wiped my memory with dr fortenance
the top nerve dr in world
they down loaded me with this technology
to see if i could fix the cloning double data
issue so i did and fixed bipolar at same time
its a dna memory from your parents that kicks
in when your going thru a lot of stress
causing conflict between your brain
and dna signals of your genetics
so you get two mixed signals like a car
computer default when sensors go out
so one has to be wiped this is done using
photon energy a chemical reaction
when I was done I saw einstien did it too
called opiate heart repolorization
i did brain repolorization its also the drugs addiction problem
opiates salrs white sugar build crystals
in brain untill these are removed
they always have problems its why
people have heart attacts its salt build up
but dehydration causes the crystal to form
which blockes arteries im not kiding I raised three dead people
a opiate overdose happened in front the church
repolorised him with a drunk there oposites
the overdose guy was there up aleart and cops ambulance checked him out
he left on bus over 30 witnessed this is why drunks live in
car crash and sober people die the drunk is taking the energy
if you add enough energy to the sober people they will come back to life
well im so far off topic sorry well you probly find some of it interesting
even though its not all radiant well it is its just not from your
designed coils its just next level do far ahead you probly think im
nuts 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 29, 2010, 06:33:53 AM
@ Cletus

slow down buddy. we're not quite ready to induce armegedon...

1 step at a time.,
Let's take dave's device here,
and figure out how to harness the energy that radiates from it. and get it to do something useful.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 29, 2010, 07:00:38 AM
i...the device i sent to jetijs has a coil inside the oxide core...when i energized it, then put a meter from the inner coil to the tube outside, i was getting a reading of a constant voltage, [very tiny]....i will ask jet to test his device with better equipment than i have......my brother alvin is going to OSU and i want to show the physics dept. my devices...he said he would talk to someone with clout......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 29, 2010, 07:21:34 AM
Smoky you got two of
six five pointed stars correct the red and blue the most important
magenta and indigo watch this sit tight thru the bible reading i demostrate it at the end what you need to see
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w-fhdJH9XI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w-fhdJH9XI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q38dmoKGAEQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

with this you can do vitualy anthing
except weapons
you need
--++
++++
thats i guess my apology for my long off subject
message sit tight thru the bible reading
i dont care if your religious or not
we all gave eternal life it dont matter to me what or where you want to live
when your done here were in a loop anyways
Sent from my iPhone
Sent from my iPhone
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on August 29, 2010, 07:59:55 AM
@ rosemary

  love light and peace its the only way to fly.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: gravityblock on August 29, 2010, 10:26:15 AM
Here is a way of taking the Earth's Magnetic Pulse, http://www.uksmg.org/content/pulse.htm , which one can in principle resolve deflections as small as one ten-millionth of a degree. This device can test both the horizontal and vertical components of magnetism.

I think one of the factors which has an influence on gravity is the vertical component of magnetism. However, the attraction it exerts on a body is, with small variations, the same as that on any other body. Thus, it is that the speed of fall in a vacuum is constant. However, this attraction is not due to mass, it is caused by the magnetism with which the whole body is endowed.

This device will allow us to test small variations in both the vertical and horizontal components, which the PMH may influence just like a magnetic storm high in the ionosphere, with a device which employs one of the most sensitive instruments in science at a reasonable cost.

GB
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 29, 2010, 12:25:02 PM
Do you mean to post the ones that he posted the links?

Jesus

Many thanks indeed Jesus.  Yes I did mean those.  Can you perhaps give us some more of them?  Jet's experimental aptitudes are exceptional.  And he has some really interesting input regarding the 'Lambright effect' from some 'sensitives' in the area. 

Thank you Jesus.  We're all most grateful for your input.

Kindest regards,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 29, 2010, 03:14:04 PM
Many thanks indeed Jesus.  Yes I did mean those.  Can you perhaps give us some more of them?  Jet's experimental aptitudes are exceptional.  And he has some really interesting input regarding the 'Lambright effect' from some 'sensitives' in the area. 

Thank you Jesus.  We're all most grateful for your input.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

Here are some more:

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 29, 2010, 03:19:45 PM
Some more:

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 29, 2010, 03:23:56 PM
Another group:

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 29, 2010, 03:27:31 PM
One before the last:

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 29, 2010, 03:29:59 PM
Here are some more:

Jesus

THANK YOU VERY MUCH JESUS.  I'm sure it's widely appreciated.  And JET - many, many thanks for this.  I'm just SO glad you're also posting on this forum. 

Gratitude abounds.

Kindest regards
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ramset on August 29, 2010, 03:31:42 PM
Jesus
NICE!
Wow  Jetis is amazing!

Chet
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 29, 2010, 03:32:04 PM
Last group  ;D

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 29, 2010, 03:37:54 PM
Maybe this one is out of place but who knows.
There are so many inteligent people in this area, that I will post my question here.

I want to run a motor that has three cables going out of it and it has a common point where the three ends of the coils that has the three cables are together tied.

How can I run that motor with a pulsing circuit that energizes one coil at a time?

A drawing that I posted on another thread is here:

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 29, 2010, 06:03:13 PM
Car coils combine your two cross you 12 v
side back with a jumper this does not
short your power like you think
power flows in six  completly seperate
stars oposite 8 is your cross between your
two outside to a car coil then jumper both terminals your parrale and series
together come off the spar plug side you have a two power source
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 29, 2010, 06:12:54 PM
I figured the principle of joe cell
were doing things back wards when a light fillament is broke
the current does not jump the gap but if you strect the metal
it creates it own magnet pulling the metal fillanent together
i broke the glass this is how joes cell is working snow flakes attrac
with little power were running everything back wards
magnets pull harder then they push when they pull
the piston up then it discharges the magnetism
the.next piston is building energy fartgesr away
this is the principles of my aletnating capacitors
they all charge tge same but discharge
them in order you get high voktage useable current from a low wireless power supply
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: tagor on August 29, 2010, 06:17:22 PM
Maybe this one is out of place but who knows.
There are so many inteligent people in this area, that I will post my question here.

I want to run a motor that has three cables going out of it and it has a common point where the three ends of the coils that has the three cables are together tied.

How can I run that motor with a pulsing circuit that energizes one coil at a time?

A drawing that I posted on another thread is here:

Jesus

hello
 
this seems to be a brushless dc motor ( like DD and CD motor )
 
here is a pdf :
 
http://www.freescale.com/files/dsp/doc/app_note/AN1961.pdf (http://www.freescale.com/files/dsp/doc/app_note/AN1961.pdf)
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: gravityblock on August 29, 2010, 06:19:18 PM
The implications are that this may be a result of some kind of gravitational influence - precisely because it appears to 'bend' light.  But other strange effects are that it induces a magnetic response in material that is not traditionally known to have magnetic properties - string - rocks and such like.

I'm going to try this again.  If there is a magnetic response in materials that are not traditionally known to have magnetic properties, then we need to measure this force.

We can measure this force with the Baker's device I mentioned in my previous post, by substituting the magnets which are attached to the nylon string with a non-magnetic material, or do tests with the magnets attached to the nylon thread.  If there is even a slight magnetic response of the non-magnetic material inside the Baker's device when held over David's PMH, then it will be clearly seen and the force can be documented, measured, and studied in more detail.

If there is a magnetic response in non-magnetic materials, and the force can be easily measured, then this will catch the attention of the scientific community.  There is a possibility of the earth having secondary magnetic fields, which has yet been discovered, and there could be an interaction between David's PMH and the theoretical secondary magnetic fields of the earth, or other possiblities.

I offered a simple experiment on the energeticforum to validate David's claim of feeling a repulsive force when pointing a laser pointer at the PMH, but the test was never done.  If a repulsive force could be felt, then the experiment would easily show the laser pointer being deflected.  It wouldn't surprise me if the Baker's test is not done also.

GB
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 29, 2010, 06:34:38 PM
If you have been threatened by mib
send it to me i have no kids im not afraid
of these fuckers and have a lot of shit on
them all and technology they can only dream of
so what im saying is build a fake email
dont put your name and either link me two it
or give it direct I will do my best to decode it
and put it with the rest of others and release it finished
free thats the only way to beat these guys
ch@helpuflip.com
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 29, 2010, 06:39:08 PM
I'm going to try this again.  If there is a magnetic response in materials that is not traditionally known to have magnetic properties, then we need to measure this force.

We can measure this force with the Baker's device I mentioned in my previous post, by substituting the magnets which are attached to the nylon string with a non-magnetic material, or do tests with the magnets attached to the nylon thread.

If there is even a slight magnetic response of the non-magnetic material when held over David's PMH, then it will be clearly seen and the force can be documented, measured, and studied in more detail.

If there is a magnetic response in non-magnetic materials, and the force can be easily measured, then this will catch the attention of the scientific community.  There is a possibility of the earth having secondary magnetic fields, which has yet been discovered, and there could be an interaction between David's PMH and the theoretical secondary magnetic fields of the earth, or other possiblities.

I offered a simple experiment on the energeticforum to validate David's claim of feeling a repulsive force when pointing a laser pointer at the PMH, but the test was never done.  If a repulsive force could be felt, then the experiment would easily show the laser pointer being deflected.  It wouldn't surprise me if the Baker's test is not done also.

GB
Hi gravityblock.  I saw your post and I started reading the link but have not really had time to study it yet.  I see that an amateur has found a way to measure subtle gravity fluctuations which is a very good thing.  Thoroughly approve of any attempt at making actual measurements but I'm not sure that I, personally could put that apparatus together.  I'll get back here soon.  Am knee deep in trying to finish the magnet arrangement that I'm working on and I want to try and photograph this before I go out.   I absolutely agree that this needs proper measurement and proper validation.

Jesus, I can't help you at all - delighted to see tagor rally.  And many, many thanks for doing that chore on Jet's pictures.  Jetjis is a genius experimentalist and frankly I'm delighted that he's here.  Let's hope he has the time to post on both forums. 

Gravityblock - I've followed your ideas and your interests through these forums for a while now.  I believe there is much we could discuss.  But I'm still battling for time.  I think I've spread myself a bit thin at the moment.  I'll try and give that reference of yours more attention.

Kindest regards to all
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 29, 2010, 06:53:00 PM
You cannot measure daves energy
ill tryy to explain why there is a continual
ion flow the feild you see is the rainbow
the only way you can measure is
the amount you can store the amount you
store is based on your battery whatever material your using
basicaly what dave has done is slowed
down the magnetic flow to the frequency
of thing not thought to be magnetic
because the frequency of a solid magnets
is so fast it only attracts magnets at the same frequency
you have one frequency that makes
6 magenta blue red yellow cyan green
those are your six colors
all come from magenta indigo
tge very last one you will magniste
will be water the green the chlorophyl
its your last frequency
so what im saibg is one you build a open
horshoe like dave pipes theres a flow the rainbow
between the edges of the pipe the same
flow of a crack in a car head that attracts powerder
the same crack in the car head is the same
cracks in earth the river the water is attracted
to the river always for several reasons
not just gravity lowest point
the ocean is different it is a salt not a water
completly different in fact complete oposites
if you put salt on a plant you kill it
reversing energy so if you think
of a magnet pumping frequency
your taping the rainbow the
-+ in air no matter how much energy you take from those pipes the refill
from air the auto start a ion flow between them
sending receiving the 369188
in a short loop all on its own your taping that energy
earthquake thats circling the metal
gap pulling or directing frequency
continualy as you test more you
will probly understand more
of this I know its hard but its important you dont put a equation
on it because there is no equation
its pie its loops of infinity and if you determine the
energy please do not stick it on daves device but only
on the plastic or battery your measuring
because its going to confuse everyone
with a equation it cannot equate to
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 29, 2010, 07:14:29 PM
If you have been threatened by mib
send it to me i have no kids im not afraid
of these fuckers and have a lot of shit on
them all and technology they can only dream of
so what im saying is build a fake email
dont put your name and either link me two it
or give it direct I will do my best to decode it
and put it with the rest of others and release it finished
free thats the only way to beat these guys
ch@helpuflip.com

 ;D  Golly Cletus.  I've been rolling.  I must say I'm beginning to rather enjoying your strange postings - albeit that they're not entirely understandable.  Glad to know that you're watching our backs. 

Regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 29, 2010, 07:35:19 PM
Hi everyone,

This is one of three to come.  Hope it works.  I'm not quite sure how to post three consecutively in the same post.  But I'm getting there.

Regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 29, 2010, 07:37:47 PM
Rosemary
the goverment has and is blocking free
energy every day there are people that develop systems like
bendini like joe cell
like edward the pattent office refused to aknowledge
they threaten everyone if you havent got a visit then you havent built
anything that is a threat to there money supply
lots of people have children and a life important that makes
the goverment shut these technologies
down what im saying is I will
stand up to them I will take as many bullits
as I need to untill this oil ends
the joes cell starts on hydrogen but its not runing on
hydrogen theres no implosion
its running on magnetism the ignition
coil timing is changed to pull the power from the piston to the spark
plug not power across the plug the frequency of the joe coil
is important the pistons are building
energy like a capacitoar actualy all the whole engine is the capacitor
hes discharging it back wards thru the
coil in the order of the pistons
your work on magnetising aluminum
is going to be key to runninh theses new aluminum
motors on his technology probly the reason the switched to aluminum
heads and pistons
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 29, 2010, 07:38:25 PM
SECOND SHOT Close up of the 'saucer' arrangement
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 29, 2010, 07:42:03 PM
Last one.  I'm running out of time here but will try and cover the relevance on this in a following post.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 29, 2010, 08:16:16 PM
Hi guys, the relevance of that rather eccentric arrangement of magnets was to get a 'design' shape that could test multiple arrangements of magnets - and their effects.  I'ts nowhere near finished.  There's a middle tier that, unfortunately, cracked and it's preventing the three tiers from turning independently.  By which I mean that it's producing a certain amount of friction.  But nor do I see any evidence of any spin at all - which I was hoping for. 

Effectively it's a series of independently 'spinable' cups each with its own bearing - but positioned on a shared axis.  Its the first stage of a series of test apparatus - the next one being a duplicate of this so that we can position two opposing fields in parallel - as required. 

Here's the thinking.  We know that there's an enormous amount of 'empty space' inside your average atom.  I've referenced this widely - and am sure that the most of you know this, but this is the analogy.  If you picture the nucleus of your average hydrogen atom - and make it the size of an apple - in the mind's eye.  Then the electron would be orbiting that nucleus at an about 8 - 12 kilometer radius to that apple.  And the electron, in turn, would be about the size of a split pea.  Between these two structures which are the only KNOWN material in that hydrogen atom - are energy levels - but no-one knows what they comprise because they are apparently without any detectable 'charge'.  The proposal is that these energy levels may be magnetic fields that somehow hold the electron 'locked' in a fixed orbit.  Just a proposal.  It may very well be wrong.  And in any event this, too would depend on the further proposal that the magnetic fields - ALL magnetic fields - comprise a dipolar particle that is undetectable (dark) precisely because it is too small and too fast for even light to detect it. 

That's the 'thinking' behind the construct.  Now.  We all know about the Casimir effect which is the ability of material to 'bond' - on a really small scale.  This 'effect' was predicted by Casimir - a mathematician - and subsequently proven.  In effect there is a property in bonded atoms to also bond with extraneous material - provided only that their proximity is such to allow this.  Take a really small piece of metal and put it next to another really small piece - and they stick like crazy. 

What's proposed here is that this 'bonding' is enabled by really small 'fields' of these dipoles that interact with energy levels but which do not themselves belong to the atom.  They're extraneous.  And they're responsible for the 3 dimensional shapes in all bound amalgams.  In other words - something other than the atom's own 'charge' or valence condition - enables the formation of the crystalline structure in all bound amalgams.  This includes water - but in gases it's confined to molecular bonding.  Anyway - that's the thinking.

But this means that if these fields are responsible for that 'bonding' and if Dave's rig is somehow influencing these tiny little one dimensional fields - then that could be the explanation for the fact that - regardless of the material - anything within it's range of influence also seems to exhibit a marked magnetic type response to the field - regardless as to it's inherent magnetisable properties - or otherwise. 

So.  This apparatus of mine is intended to explore this question.  Right now the outer rim has a n/s,s/n opposing polarities as does the inner rim.  And you can hang any kind of material on a thread and it is very evidently able to influence whatever material you use.  I am going to do a video of this but it will not be until later on next week.

So, while this is NOT in line with Dave's experiments it's still very much on the same page.  I'm just so anxious to see if I can get some answers to the many questions that the Lambright Effect seems to beg.

Regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 29, 2010, 08:39:07 PM
And just something that I urgently need to reference.  This AMAZING little rig of ours was put together by one of the most extraordinary design engineers I've ever had the good fortune to meet.  I'll see if I can show some of the work that he's done - somehow and one day.   Hopefully he may yet come on board as a member.

And Theo - in the unlikely event that you read here, many many thanks for your hard work and for the time and patience in getting this lot together. 



Regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Jetijs on August 29, 2010, 09:11:40 PM
Rosemary,
great test rig you have there. Thank you for sharing, a great idea.
Thaks,
Jetijs
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 29, 2010, 10:36:26 PM

hello
 
this seems to be a brushless dc motor ( like DD and CD motor )
 
here is a pdf :
 
http://www.freescale.com/files/dsp/doc/app_note/AN1961.pdf (http://www.freescale.com/files/dsp/doc/app_note/AN1961.pdf)

Thank you @tagor

I browsed through the document and now I have realized that I chose a very dificult task to accomplish. Or at least it seems to be very hard.

Is there any step by step tutorial on how to run a 3 phase bldc?

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: XS-NRG on August 29, 2010, 10:41:33 PM
You only think it is hard.

Once you step into the digital controller world, you can make that motor dance with your eyes closed.
It is not hard at all.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 29, 2010, 11:21:53 PM
Let go back to the apple
its not a pea in the center its a core
a torus watch this video its the string theory
design but not the structure but its the closest example i can give you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ey028iq22A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
to help you understand life itself
without weapons now your testing
daves device you see of very important
to controll the energy you need to conduct two
of those pipes oposite the wheel
with a flat plate
this makes your ++
-+
sorry im lost this thread is all over now
i dont know what the goal is so Im
stuck on trying to tell you the answers to the questions
take rosemarys wheel and put two
one upside down on the other
but your just over complicating daves
design you can get all four cirners if earth from daves
rember the cup ill post the diagram give me a minute


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 30, 2010, 12:12:30 AM
sorry I got frustrated on the left side I dont hve the graph paper
Im pretty shure its + -+-+ but its negative the last time i did it so maybey its just -
--++
++++
so the 4 + turn to negative but the point the hit the ball is the point of the polarity and being I dont have a the exact graph the ++++
should go ++++
               - --
                ++
                 -  so ya it should be right at the very point - but just off the poi +-+ thats the left
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on August 30, 2010, 05:55:16 AM
@niiev


    You can split just one pulsed signal by inserting capacitors in series with your coils.   You can try it with just 2 one winding connected directly to the line and inserting various capacitors in the other two.  The combination of capacitance and inductance and pulse width can be adjusted so that the coils appear to fire around the circumference of the motor.  You can get it all to ring also.  This is when your motor windings appear as inductors in 3 series resonant circuits.  This is the most efficient design but as you have already noted it is no easy task.

    You can get hold of Bolt who posts in the TPU section quite often.  He builds rotoverters that is basically an electric motor stator creating a rotating magnetic field that whirls around a fixed winding whose currents are then supplied to a load.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 30, 2010, 07:12:51 AM
@ Rose

have you found a way to "polarize" things, different from what Dave showed with the PMH / aluminum?

---------------------------------------------------------

@ Gravity Block
   
What exactly would be gained from knowing that a piece of... say Aluminum, has a ferromagnetic quality of (X)

Or that a piece of Copper has a field of (X - Y)

They are not magnetic. but are attracted to a field, when they should NOT be.. its very strange. but im not sure what measuring this will tell us??

im assuming this is temporary, but i guess time will tell. its only been 3 days and the aluminumn foil is still ferromagnetic. I dont know wether or not dave still has his that he did a while back.
Aluminum foil works very well, Copper sheet works to a lesser degree.
im under the assumption that the material has to be conductive, or more specifically, a metal. though i may experiment with crystals..



i guess what im getting at, Grav..
    What exactly do you hope to determine,
 with the knowledge of the
 precise permeability of a piece of polarized aluminum???
Is there some standard, for causing a mass of alumimum to be attracted to a magnetic field, that perhaps... consumes a given ammount of energy, by which we could use to asses the strength of the magnetic current?
-------------------------------------------------

Theoretically, the strength of the magnetic currents' magnetic field should be::

2.8028 x (10 ^ 14) eV / ng   
give or take impurities in the metal

up to approximately.....
2.33 x (10^15) ng, then we have a "slightly different situation"





Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 30, 2010, 07:30:55 AM
Hi again Guys,

I just want to post the following link which - surprisingly - or not, is very much about what Dave's rig is showing us - I think.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeUgDJc6AWE

You will notice that Hutchinson talks about the Casimir effect and the 'jitter' that he thinks is accessed through Tesla type radiation application techniques.  He also proposes that this may be a different 'dimensional' effect which starts effecting the actual atomic structures.  I am absolutely not qualified to comment - but this is what intrigues me.  Metal softens without heating.  The bonding can be so compromised that that the material shape degrades to dust.  The lattice structure of aluminium turns to 'spaghetti like' strings.  Non metallic materials are shifted and levitated.  All very strange.

What I'm trying to determine is whether - indeed - it is some extraneous field - holding bonded atoms together.  I actually need a one dimensional orbiting string of dipolar particles - that will then be able to neutralise the 'environment' of atoms, so to speak.  In other words - two strongly opposing or 'like' charged atoms would, theoretically, be able to interact with such a field to enable them to share the same space.  Else - in many instances - it would be impossible to amalgamate material structures where their intrinsic charges are repellent.  Effectively, it would explain 'bonding' more easily and, believe it or not - more simply.  But without that 'bonding' - without that extraneous field - I cannot see anything inside the atom itself that would always promote any kind of proximity - unless the atoms' charges were somehow sympathetic.  It may be the elusive 'glue to the universe' that our astrophysicists are looking for.

I believe that Dave's rig - or the Lambright effect - is our early clue which will unfold this field.  You will note in those videos that the atomic structures remain the same.  It is only the condition of their bonding that is varied.  And this is changed without the application of 'heat'.  I suspect that these fields are 're-arranged' or are 're-positioned' in space.  Effectively, under usual circumstances,  they reach a happy compromise with our earth's magnetic fields - which are smooth, or smoothish' and then this stable or 'rest state' is interrupted by these irradiating fields - that they lose that 'rest state'. 

I do hope this relevance is clear.  And I'm really hoping that some of what I'm trying to point to here is understood. 

Regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 30, 2010, 07:34:05 AM
i dont know wether to add this guy to the team,
or lock him in the lab and save him for later....
the one on the right is the FairField Vortex Drive
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 30, 2010, 07:40:35 AM
@ Rose

have you found a way to "polarize" things, different from what Dave showed with the PMH / aluminum?

Hi Sm0ky,
Absolutely NOT. Everything I have found absolutely agrees with or is consistent with the Lambright Effect. They only thing that I have NOT found is that 'Lambright Glimmer'.  I've seen it in on Dave's videos but have not seen it on my own rig.

What I'm trying to do - somewhat ponderously, so you guys must please bear with me - is the ACTUAL magnetic configuration.  My thinking here is becoming 'modified' or 'refined'.  I now see an attractive AND repulsive force in a magnetic field - and it's an alignment of this that seems to induce that strong magnetic interaction with non-magnetisable materials.  But I'm working with magnets.  The only effects I'll be able to achieve are really localised.  The advantage of using 'spins' and 'induced fields' such as Dave and even Hutchinson get - is that the 'field effect' is less localised.  I'm just doing some exercises in magnetic configurations that I fondly think may be required and appropriate.  It's fundamental forces we're dealing with.  And I'm trying to find those roots.  LOL

Kindest regards,
Rosemary 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 30, 2010, 07:51:29 AM
i dont know wether to add this guy to the team,
or lock him in the lab and save him for later....
the one on the right is the FairField Vortex Drive

Sm0ky - Very interesting indeed.  It's my experience that one can 'neutralise' any magnetic field with the use of conductive material.  I'm assuming that those bearings are paramagnetic?  But that construct is SO SYMMETRICAL.  Very intriguing.

Rosemary 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 30, 2010, 08:23:25 AM
@ rose
i tried to draw this out for you
when you alter the interaction between the nucleii and the electrons, by changing their orbital vector,
you essentially are changing the way each atom interacts with the one its adjoined to.

where they "share" orbital path components, is where they "bond".

if the paths change, so does the bonds.

hope this helps. the picture in the middle is my atomic description of magnetism.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 30, 2010, 08:26:21 AM
And guys, at the risk of waxing philosophical - let me stress this.  We really do NEED to keep this knowledge OPEN and the more answers we find here the better.  Else I strongly suspect that this knowledge may become the 'exclusive' province of those hyper trained - highly qualified physicists who will gain MORE from keeping the thinking 'obtuse' than by making it readily understandable. 

I'm rather committed to the belief that physics is essentially simple.  And I'm trying hard to keep it that way.  As ever - my own bench mark is my own lack of scientific aptitude.  And if I can understand it then anyone can.  LOL.  But having said that I keep hearing that my writing is NOT understood.  If so - then please get me to explain it better.  I can but try. 

But I'm sure you all see the significance of this.  It's amazing stuff. 

Regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 30, 2010, 08:35:57 AM
@ rose
i tried to draw this out for you
when you alter the interaction between the nucleii and the electrons, by changing their orbital vector,
you essentially are changing the way each atom interacts with the one its adjoined to.

where they "share" orbital path components, is where they "bond".

if the paths change, so does the bonds.

hope this helps. the picture in the middle is my atomic description of magnetism.

Sm0ky - you're right and you're absolutely right.  There is no question that the interactions can be explained in terms of the electron's varying orbits.  But that's all done on the postulate that the electron itself is generating a magnetic field.  It does nothing to explain the 'magnetic' field that is then generated.  And classical physics relies on the electron as the 'charge' carrier. 

I'm not arguing classical physics.  It's been proven at levels and at standards that I could NEVER hope to emulate.  And I'm ill equipped to argue it.  But classical CANNOT explain the 'jitter' - the casimir effect - gravity - even the electromagnetic interaction.  Locality questions.  LOTS OF QUESTIONS Sm0ky.  It can ONLY measure it.  In other words - we still have NO HANDLE on the SOURCE of energy itself. 

What I've proposed is another 'force'.  But it's not another force - it's simply the magnetic field as a primary force.  The numbers stack.  It certainly doesn't conflict with the extraordinary reach and achievements of our scientists - and, it may possibly explain those many outstanding questions that we all are obliged to entertain if we stick to the standard quantum and classical explanations.  And remember that while both these disciplines are interrelated - they come from two different ends of the scientific spectrum and they NEVER quite meet int the middle. 

In any event.  My thesis is NOT the discussion here.  Sorry for introducing it.  What is under discussion is the possibility that we're uncovering the actual 'force' that is responsible for all energy.  And this has serious implications on gravity.  And I think it's clear to us all that the Lambright Effect definitely speaks to a gravity field.  Certainly that's my take.

Kindest again
Rosemary

BTW your illustrations are EXCELLENT. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 30, 2010, 08:40:36 AM
...I'm rather committed to the belief that physics is essentially simple...


On a philosophical level, is it very simple. and it's all the same, "universal" if you will.
the large is just a reflection of the small.
and the very large is a relfection of the large.
and so on.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 30, 2010, 08:42:16 AM
On a philosophical level, is it very simple. and it's all the same, "universal" if you will.
the large is just a reflection of the small.
and the very large is a relfection of the large.
and so on.

Here we're in perfect synch.
 ;D
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 30, 2010, 08:58:41 AM
i dont want to get too off topic with this,
but we can delve a little deeper into the rabbit hole..

These "pieces of the atom" are magnetic in nature.
the electrons motion is what causes it to be electric.
it moves because its attracted to everything. except for an adequately strong electric charge to repel its own charge.

every orbit causes a "magnetic moment". the vector of the magnetic field is exactly the same as in an electric coil, or two neutron stars orbiting one another.

when you allign these orbits onto a planar axis (magnetize them) this causes these magnetic moments, to ( on average) occur in the same vectoral direction.

forcing this to occur in a copper wire (coil), causes heat as well as magnetism. all the forces of nature are magnetic in origin.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 30, 2010, 09:19:26 AM
i dont want to get too off topic with this,
but we can delve a little deeper into the rabbit hole..

These "pieces of the atom" are magnetic in nature.
the electrons motion is what causes it to be electric.
it moves because its attracted to everything. except for an adequately strong electric charge to repel its own charge.

every orbit causes a "magnetic moment". the vector of the magnetic field is exactly the same as in an electric coil, or two neutron stars orbiting one another.

when you allign these orbits onto a planar axis (magnetize them) this causes these magnetic moments, to ( on average) occur in the same vectoral direction.

forcing this to occur in a copper wire (coil), causes heat as well as magnetism. all the forces of nature are magnetic in origin.

I'm absolutely with you.  But NO classical theory can explain why an electron does not 'nose dive' into the proton when they're oppositely charged.  NO classical theory can explain why - the nearer the electron is brought to the proton - the more urgent becomes their mutual repulsions.  NO classical theory can explain why a 'magnet on magnet' interaction does not generate an electric field.  NO classical theory can explain any of this.  It can only speculate.  This is because the forces - all of them - are invisible.  So we're all obliged to constrain all our observations to empirical evidence and rely on those measurements to 'use' those forces. 

What I'm proposing is something MUCH more radical.  I'm actually suggesting that we can uncover the forces themselves - or, as I see it - the single force that underlies the known forces.  But I'll get back here - and I'll address your point more adequately.  Sorry for this but I've run out of time.

More glitches from our utility supplier.  We're still 3rd world guys.  It's annoying.

Kindest as ever, and in haste
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: gravityblock on August 30, 2010, 09:24:12 AM
@ Gravity Block
   
What exactly would be gained from knowing that a piece of... say Aluminum, has a ferromagnetic quality of (X)

Or that a piece of Copper has a field of (X - Y)

They are not magnetic. but are attracted to a field, when they should NOT be.. its very strange. but im not sure what measuring this will tell us??
......
...........
i guess what im getting at, Grav..
    What exactly do you hope to determine,
 with the knowledge of the
 precise permeability of a piece of polarized aluminum???
Is there some standard, for causing a mass of alumimum to be attracted to a magnetic field, that perhaps... consumes a given ammount of energy, by which we could use to asses the strength of the magnetic current?

In short, it allows you to do controlled tests or to uncover the actual 'force', as Rosemary said.  By knowing how much force it took to twist the fiber through a given angle, Coulomb was able to calculate the force between the balls. Determining the force for different charges and different separations between the balls, he showed that it followed Coulomb's law.  There are too many of these examples to even attempt to mention them all.  If the force determined by the Baker's device showed it has the properties of gravity, such as the same rate of attraction between all masses, etc., then we can attribute this effect to gravity.

Does density, heat, pressure affect the data.  We know when a material heats up, it will lose it's magnetic properties, thus if temperature is a factor, then the force may be partly due to a magnetic phenomenon, which may lead to the discovery of secondary magnetic fields that is currently unknown to the scientific community.  Does the density of an object effect the data?  Does radiation pressure, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure , have an effect?  Will an object with a larger volume have a different force than an object with a smaller volume.  This could show that the radiation pressure from the electromagnetic waves from the sun has a repelling force against a mass according to it's density and surface area exposed, which would help to explain the reasons behind the elliptical orbits of the planets.

Thus, the planets orbits may be due to a repelling force and an attraction force which finds an equilibrium according to the planets density and surface area exposed to the sun and the relative distance between the sun, magnetic center, and the planet itself.  This could mean the elliptical orbits are due to the sun orbiting around a magnetic center of the solar system, because a planet will be exposed more to a repelling force when the sun is between the planet and magnetic center and will be pushed away during this time, or a planet will be exposed more to an attraction force when the magnetic center is between the planet and sun, and will be pulled in during this time, thus the reason for the elliptical orbits of the planets.  Please note, if the repelling force was due to only the centrifugal force of a planet, then the planet would take a spiral course and plummet into the sun.  Also, if the opposing force of attraction was due to the centrifugal force alone, then this doesn't explain the elliptical orbits of the planets, thus a need for another repelling force.

I could go on and on, but the end conclusion is it could redefine our understanding of gravity and magnetism, or could verify a theoretical fifth force and lead to many other great discoveries.  This is how Coulomb and other great scientists proceeded in their work, and I don't know why one would want to deviate from this successful model.

GB
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 30, 2010, 10:24:25 AM
thats because the "clasical" interpretation of what these forces are, and what causes them to be manifest

is based on speculation and conjecture.

their models help them to solve the problem, and through this, the necessary mathematics were drawn out. and very accurately.

but there is still the underlying assumptions made, that inhibit them from seeing the larger picture.

why the electron doesn't hit the nucleus,? well, it actually does. eventually...

once the magnetic field of the nucleus dissapates so much that it can no longer accelerate the electron to its critical velocity. then the nucleus gets impaled, and its inner field shifts. sometimes the impact can eject fast moving particles completely out of orbit, and off into the space around it.
science calls this "atomic decay", but they base all of their knowledge of this on some random pointless statistic..

if we had the means to vectorally direct an electron, to impale a proton at a perfecly perpendicular angle between their centers......  it would theoretically be possible to collide the two. this kind of precision its like hitting the atomic lottery, given the number of atoms in our part of the universe.. im sure this happens, but wether or not we observe this, or ever figure out how to cause it to happen who knows... if they get their heads out of their %#^*es maybe they could figure out that in a given sample, there exists atoms that have decayed outside of their normal associated time-frame. they acknowledge this, but ignore its implications... they consider it a "troublesome nusance", and incosistencies in their results... an unwanted % that they have to account for because its there, but they otherwise want nothing to do with...
--------------------------------------------------------
when you bring the two pieces together, you are increasing the force attracting between them, but also increasing the velocity, and thus causing more outward force tangential to the vectoral orbit. when you attempt to contain the electron with an electric field, what you are containing is the electric field emited by the moving electron.
and thus not preventing it from moving, just rapidly changing its vectoral direction. causing it to orbit within its own field, twirling in a sort of screw-like pattern, which becomes more and more curved as you approach the proton.

as the electron approaches the speed of light, you are confronted with an infinite outward force preventing the two from touching one another. the magnetic attraction is what is accelerating it.
When the protons magnetic field weakens and can no longer sustain this, the atom ceases to be a baryon and depending on the energy exchange between the atom and its environment when it becomes unstable, the electron may become part of the protons mass, thus forming a "neutron".
or fracture the proton into groups of its magnetic components. the electron itself joining one of those groups.










Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: gravityblock on August 30, 2010, 10:52:20 AM
Thoroughly approve of any attempt at making actual measurements but I'm not sure that I, personally could put that apparatus together. 

Kindest regards to all
Rosemary

After you study the Baker's device, then I think you will agree there would be no difficulty in putting this apparatus together.  If Dave sends me a device to test, then I will build the Baker's device myself, so controlled experiments can be done and documented.

GB
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on August 30, 2010, 11:38:45 AM
  @smokey

    The electromagnetic stimulation of radioactive decay can make anything radioactive by decreasing the angular velocity of electrons in the 1s orbital.  They have found this out and can now take radioactive waste and electromagnetically stimulate it until it drops below radiation levels of that you would find in a smoke detector.  What the problem is is control.  When a guy can whip up a device put it in his garage and change his human waste into enough energy to power the neighborhood they loose control.  They no longer have us working night and day paying electric bills and fuel bills and taxes on fuel and taxes on electricity and taxes levied on stuff we make and stuff we do.  We are free to go out and change salt water to fresh change a desert into a farmland change packaging and all our waste into fertilizers and raw materials to rebuild our infrastructures and new structures.  A world of so much there is no need for wars or depletion of natural rescources that cause wars.  I dont know about you but this is no longer a matter of if is it  possible it is a matter of who is in the way of building such a world and why.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on August 30, 2010, 11:59:07 AM
Hi All,

I have been reading this thread with some interest, having been cross-pollinated to it from EF.  I am going to share a few observations, voice an idea, and allow you all to draw whatever conclusion comes to you. 

First, the idea:  I posit that our model of an electron, or any subatomic particle, is not quite right.  We represent them as point charges with spheres or dots;  I am of the opinion that with a microscope capable of resolving such small items, we would see them looking more like globular clusters of stars.

Next, Dave's device creates a rotating magnetic field... a relatively weak but fast one.  Here are the relevant videos which allow visualization of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onuHOufJoeY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uDiofHpSMo
 
Can someone put a thin film of ferrofluid on top of the working device, in a glass pan or so, and see what happens?

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 30, 2010, 12:26:21 PM
hi everyone...jesus, your device might come today!.....jetijs, yours wii be there soon...guys, when you get the device, dont expect it to shoot green sparks, lol....just look at it, i have found if there more people looking at the device, the ones who see it right off can help by their description of what they see....hold it up, turn it slowly, do not try too hard, kindof let yuor eyes relax....the words people are using to describe this....looks like heat, a bubble or film, and like a lens...take your time, it will manifest...also my newest device!!...i made the ferro fluid core device using a clear vinyl tube, about 2" diameter.... the tube is 1/4" vinyl, coupled with a short piece of just larger tube....i filled the tube with ferro fluid, not very easy, wear gloves, it was messy but worth it....i could not get all the air out, i left a 1mm bubble in it...i do not think is affects the orbital path....20 or 30 wraps of copper wire and energized first one way, then flip the battery and do it again.....very quick, so that the wires do not get hot.....this device really does the lens thing good...is is just as smokey2 said, you gotta see it for yourself.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 30, 2010, 12:38:12 PM
gravity block...i would be honored to send you a device, but it will be the oxide core model, if that would be alright...it will be my pleasure to build one like the one i built for jetijs!...PM me with an address, and i will put you on the list!....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on August 30, 2010, 03:25:30 PM
Hi All,

Some of what you are describing sounds like what Pier Luigi Ighina was working on.

http://www.svpvril.com/ighina/magatom.html

"...
When observing an atom under an atomic microscope, he defined 4 fundamental laws:


1) The light atoms, when they excite the observed atoms, give part of their motion to the latter.

2) The observed atoms absorb part of the motion of the light atoms to speed up theirs.

3) In order to excite an atom, you need it to get in touch with an atom of higher motion; the atom with the highest motion will attract the one with the lowest motion.

4) The higher the atoms motion, the more luminous it will be and vice-versa.
..."

I'm wondering if #3 is what is causing the Aluminum to attract? If you could excite the Aluminum atoms to a higher motion then it would be more likely to attract those with a lower motion? The glimmer effect could be part #4 when exciting the surrounding atoms to a higher motion.

I could be all wrong in the thinking of this but the implications of the Lambright effect are amazing.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 30, 2010, 04:32:53 PM
Hi All,

I have been reading this thread with some interest, having been cross-pollinated to it from EF.  I am going to share a few observations, voice an idea, and allow you all to draw whatever conclusion comes to you. 

First, the idea:  I posit that our model of an electron, or any subatomic particle, is not quite right.  We represent them as point charges with spheres or dots;  I am of the opinion that with a microscope capable of resolving such small items, we would see them looking more like globular clusters of stars.

Next, Dave's device creates a rotating magnetic field... a relatively weak but fast one.  Here are the relevant videos which allow visualization of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onuHOufJoeY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uDiofHpSMo
 
Can someone put a thin film of ferrofluid on top of the working device, in a glass pan or so, and see what happens?

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Hello Twinbeard and most welcome to our discussion.  Some very appropriate links.  Many thanks for that.

They have actually photographed pictures of atoms - believe it or not.  It looks like nested eggs held in cottonwool - or morning mist.  Extraordinary photograph - but I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it.  Just have the picture of it welded on my mind.

I think Dave or someone with a rig will need to do that thin film of ferrofluid that you recommended.  I must say I'd also like to know the outcome.

Regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: gravityblock on August 30, 2010, 05:05:21 PM
@David:  I sent you a PM

@All:  Here's a video of my replication of the Baker's Device, YouTube - Baker's device (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3thvdobrZk) 

I used the nylon fibers found inside a CAT 5 cable.  All I need to do now is to add a mirror to the nylon string to reflect the laser light, then seal it up so there are no air currents to affect the experiments.  I also need 4 ring magnets so the combined forces of the earth's magnetic field and those of the doughnut magnets almost cancel each other out so it will rotate quite freely and be the most sensitive.  This setup detected a magnet from 4 feet away without the nulling magnets in place.  It didn't take very long to assemble this apparatus and it was easy to build.

GB
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 30, 2010, 05:09:38 PM
Hi Sm0ky.  It constantly amazes me that mathematicians can determine things like the Casimir effect - and even more amazing - an accurate description of the periodic table - without ever being able to actually climb into an atomic structure and study it.  All branches of physics and it's multiple achievements are an enduring tribute to our scientific community and our Greats amongst them - and not to be belittled.  I'm very aware of this.

My interest - however - is still with outstanding questions.  You mention that it's possible to fire an electon into a proton.  Perhaps in our particle accelerators - and then under extreme velocities.  But my own understanding of this is that - under usual conditions - the electron is ultimately repelled - the closer it gets.  I'm more than open to correction here - as most of my knowledge of physics is gleaned from layman's literature.  And to verify this I'd need to look up a reference and I really haven't the interest or time.  But I've added this to my ever growing 'to do' list.

What I really wanted to do was to list some of the questions that I understood are still outstanding.  Here goes - to the best of my knowledge we do not know why the electron is precisely 1836 times smaller than a proton - yet has the identical but opposite charge.  Why the electron does not nosedive to the proton is still out there.  Partially explained as it's having a 'like' charge to some of the proposed quarks - which again is based on theoretical suppositions.  Nothing wrong with theory.  Just very difficult to prove.  Then there's the outstanding question related to the forces themselves.  No-one knows how they work - only that they do.  And right now the structure of the universe is somewhat topical as they've been obliged to propose an overriding universal expansion to override the 'attraction' of the gravitational force.  This analysis is based on measurements related to the red shift - but there are gross inherent contradictions that relate to empirical evidence - especially as this relates to the collision of galaxies.  But over and above all of this is the fact that neither classical and quantum gravity explain the mystery related to our galaxial masses that really should unravel and yet they don't.  This question is NOT answered by universal expansion.  It is only answered by the existence of some force that heretofore has not been factored in to our physics studies.  And it's getting a hard time amongst all academics.  There is still just a fringe group of astrophysicsts who acknowledge the evidence here.  When one considers that this problem has been put out there some 80 years ago, it shows the evident reluctance of mainstream to entertain new questions let alone new answers to those questions.  And finally is the outstanding question related to locality.  The simple fact is that paird particles can adjust their positions simultaneously at faster than light speeds.  This begs the final barrier that superluminal velocity is indeed possible.  This point is seldom referenced by mainstream and - like dark energy - it's only referenced in whispers.  LOL

Which, again, is why forums such as this rock.  I'm reasonably sure that we all prefer questions to standardised answers.  Clearly - until mainstream will revise those creeds related to thermodynamic laws then - we all definitely have the edge on them.  And more to the point is that we're all prepared to both ask the questions and find the answers.  Maybe not with the same flair and panache and technical rectitudes - but it still puts us streets ahead.  LOL.  We're leaning hard on those paradigms.  Very nice.

 ;D

Regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 30, 2010, 05:15:54 PM
@David:  I sent you a PM

@All:  Here's a video of my replication of the Baker's Device, YouTube - Baker's device (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3thvdobrZk) 

I used the nylon fibers found inside a CAT 5 cable.  All I need to do now is to add a mirror to the nylon string to reflect the laser light, then seal it up so there are no air currents to affect the experiments.  I also need 4 ring magnets to null out gravity so it will be the most sensitve.  This setup detected a magnet from 4 feet away without the nulling magnets in place.  It didn't take very long to assemble this apparatus and it was easy to build.

GB

Well done GB.  It'll be nice to see measurements of Dave's rig when you get it.  Really well done. 

kindest regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 30, 2010, 05:17:24 PM
Im trying to lock myself down like howard hughes
im a little too far over life itself right now
anyways smoky your real close to the ac
battery with aternating the caps between the coils
wit the power mangment control system
each cap can be released in order
as the others fill now i need to figure out how to fill
these caps from the moray cell .

2. The triangle was not very usefull mainly its because combined two shapes
if you change the bottom from a square to triangle
you see you can only have four triangles
then fill in the polarity of those four
you have the polarity of the flying triangle
now smoky if you can pulse the polarity
with the caps you can controll the gravity in
one triangle by pulsing the three caps
in the four different orders in sequence

3 the ability to seperate like hutchesion
does is the reverse of explosion
einstien stated a the flame cannot be controlled
I discovered the flame can be controlled
its thru the joe cell your creating a vacume
in the cylinder and imploding if you was the electricity
between the piston and spark plug in the vacume
pulling tge piston towards the plug
instid of the fire between the plug you get movement
something tesla could not do control
the sparks its thru direction by
imploding or moving the particles together
to eminiate the spark
4 the glimmer vibration sorry probly have the terms wrong
is when the oscilatio. Of the current is not correct there is
a vibration emmited a pulse this pulse is a strange effect
from what I can tell its just lost energy
not directed when i corrected the flow
of energy the pulse went away
basicaly it would be 1 or more of the energy
not in how do you say when colors dont match you shirt and pants
the clash i guess when energy dont match the cause that
vibration of not having the right color star between it
out phase i guess might explain it better
I dont beleive this thread has limits
because its the structure of everything.
5 oh so implosion pulls and aligns the attomic
particles they stay there till modified we
do everything the hard way heat cool pressure
hutchesion is controling more or less releasing tje implosion
of the center magnetic feild holding the structure together
this seperates the piston in joes car
allows it to go back around
then he inserts energy to pull it together
joe im shure did not understand
he was doing hutchesions experiment controlled and at high
speed but i think hutchesion did or does
he shows something in his notes about the stainless
car that runs free maybee hes the one emailing me
in a private email anyways I would like to build that joe cell
I think between it and spark phasing the capacitors we can set
america free from oil and paying for electricity
I put the demostrations on my
happy birthday post sorry some things I just cant solve sobber
its impossible have to slow the brain down enough to be paitient
then when im paitient I can usualy finish what I understand
but cant do maybee i should try these
electrical diodes and stuf drunk beings I cant build them sober
oh this is so frustrating not being able to build electrical boards

Im thinking this may help a full pipe is a
full ion flow a half pipe still flow ions but thru air
im thinking that the half pipes should
pick up the radiation from the granite
salt container then the top should not be cut
but maybey also even soldered to a v
so take daves pipes but leave a peice at the top
not cut in half so half the pipe is radiant and a portion
is circling that potion should now be useable one way or another
either direct or a secondary wire around it
oh i did something stupid i wound a fluorecent
with wire did you know you can get energy from
those tubes so i dont have a tesla tower but if i did
i could show you that lost vibration
picked up by the flourescent in air can be
harnessed by the wire around the light
i guess thats picking up the radiant waves it was a bitch to wind a
spriral florescent it didnt make as much as i wanted
proble because i used thermistat wire instid of
magnet wire well I gave you a lot hop it helps 
 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 30, 2010, 06:44:07 PM
@rosemary
you dontderstand everything is different ech time i see it its like they cut peices from my side so im not ignoring you but did not have your response to answer your question im now frustrated but ill do it anyways.
your question
What I really wanted to do was to list some of the questions that I understood are still outstanding.  Here goes - to the best of my knowledge we do not know why the electron is precisely 1836 times smaller than a proton - yet has the identical but opposite charge?

the answer= 1836 =1+8=9 3 6 teslas 369 rev 18 there not exact smae there 1 off the 8


 Why the electron does not nosedive to the proton is still out there.?
answer the proton and neutron cannot colide due to the 1 added to the system once this is done polarity is always seperated 3691888 after the 1 everything is always positive or double energy its ciclin back thru the 8 the 369 cirlcles back thru the 369


  Partially explained as it's having a 'like' charge to some of the proposed quarks - which again is based on theoretical suppositions.  Nothing wrong with theory.  Just very difficult to prove.  Then there's the outstanding question related to the forces themselves.  No-one knows how they work - only that they do.  And right now the structure of the universe is somewhat topical as they've been obliged to propose an overriding universal expansion to override the 'attraction' of the gravitational force. ?
Gravity is expanding the plasma earths sea of glass is expanding as gravit increases the green house gas the water is suspended longer as the sea turns to salt crystals the green house energy is then vibrated between the plasma and the earth this is the end result the sea crystals hold all the water in space.
 This analysis is based on measurements related to the red shift - but there are gross inherent contradictions that relate to empirical evidence - especially as this relates to the collision of galaxies.  But over and above all of this is the fact that neither classical and quantum gravity explain the mystery related to our galaxial masses that really should unravel and yet they don't.  This question is NOT answered by universal expansion.?
you dont see the loops its not expanding or contracting its apearse to be based on the time and energy you evaluate it at the earth is constantly sending rocks to space why the grand canyon
does not build it own giant dam where did the dirt go the rocks I know it hard for you to get
but its the same result as coral castle but when the energy level is increased to a point the rocks build so much energy the shoot to space dislodge with energy when enough sediment is loose the rocks has more energy the the resistance it goes this happens at nigh due to temperature of air coller then the rocks and energy.

It is only answered by the existence of some force that heretofore has not been factored in to our physics studies.  And it's getting a hard time amongst all academics.  There is still just a fringe group of astrophysicsts who acknowledge the evidence here.  When one considers that this problem has been put out there some 80 years ago, it shows the evident reluctance of mainstream to entertain new questions let alone new answers to those questions.  And finally is the outstanding question related to locality.  The simple fact is that paird particles can adjust their positions simultaneously at faster than light speeds.  This begs the final barrier that superluminal velocity is indeed possible.  This point is seldom referenced by mainstream and - like dark energy - it's only referenced in whispers. dark energy is a joke a new scientific term to get more funding its all the same frequency whether you store it in a battery oil coal natural gas hydrogen a specialy formulated composite of shit that you calcuate converts the energy better its still all the same thing frequency split uvc to uvb tovc to lead all the way to silicon you have the plasma yes I have the formula no I dont have a lab yes they did split lead frequency clear to silicon so theres better solar times 10 your just going to buy there slowest computer first everyone is thats the going green scam unless we bust it first with good will and better intention people then getting rich.
in fact well all get rich because we will all stop paying iran just work together.

Which, again, is why forums such as this rock.  I'm reasonably sure that we all prefer questions to standardised answers.  Clearly - until mainstream will revise those creeds related to thermodynamic laws then - we all definitely have the edge on them.  And more to the point is that we're all prepared to both ask the questions and find the answers.  Maybe not with the same flair and panache and technical rectitudes - but it still puts us streets ahead.  LOL.  We're leaning hard on those paradigms.  Very nice.

 

Regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 30, 2010, 10:53:55 PM
hi everyone!....i just wanted to say thanks again to everyone who takes the time, out of their lives, to read this thread and post ANY ideas about this...and the replicators.....well there are no words that are adequate.....i have said this all before but, if this is nothing, it will fall apart....but if it is as i have been saying, it will continue to grow just as it has been doing.......TODAY IS THE DAY OF DISCOVERY......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on August 30, 2010, 11:04:55 PM
Hello Twinbeard and most welcome to our discussion.  Some very appropriate links.  Many thanks for that.

Hi Rosemary.  Its a pleasure to meet you.  Fabulous work you are doing!

They have actually photographed pictures of atoms - believe it or not.  It looks like nested eggs held in cottonwool - or morning mist.  Extraordinary photograph - but I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it.  Just have the picture of it welded on my mind.

I would love to see it.  Google Images cannot come up with a actual picture of an electron for me, which is what I was intending on referring to... not an entire atom.  If you find such an image, please let me know.  The thought was that the electron it itself comprised of many smaller quark type aetheric particles.

I think Dave or someone with a rig will need to do that thin film of ferrofluid that you recommended.  I must say I'd also like to know the outcome.

I'm just curious what the extent of the B field looks like, given that the flux, by my estimation, should not be able to escape what amounts to a toroidal core, yet the particular geometry of this device may be creating really interesting eddies.

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 31, 2010, 12:56:09 AM
Not only did the goverment finish my flying triangle they
fucking landed it in fresno where i grew up
you could at least show it to me
damit 
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1175026/pg1
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on August 31, 2010, 03:16:13 AM
@Rosemary

   I believe Jeanna over in the joule thief thread posted pictures of an atom.  The surface of which is a series of triangular static lines encasing whirling circles.  Looks like little pyramids encasing spheres. A pyramid is a cool geometric shape it can encompass a circle with the circle meeting the pyramid surface at 5 points.  One in the middle of the base.   And 4 more at pi diistance from the ground to the touch on the four faces.   The pinnacle of the pyramid forms an axis for the encased sphere while the walls  and floor of the pyramid form a 3 dimensional support system for the encased ball of minimal contact.  You can put a sphere inside a square also but the pyramid is more interesting.  Any expansion or contraction of the sphere would be converted to moving the pinnacle of the pyramid up and down.  More or less converting the stress put on the sides of the pyramid into motion at the pinnacle. A little expansion of the sphere creates alot of movement at the pinnacle.
   @ all

     We are down wind of Leo and the two of us are heading towards a supercluster of galaxies beyond what is known as the Great Attractor.  The gravity from this dense cluster of matter is pulling the entire Milkyway there.  Since gravity is pretty quick way faster than the speed of light we can assume that this cluster of galaxies is still there even though slowass light is taking forever to get here.  The young cluster of galaxies we are seeing most probably exist as a super blackhole by now long ago gobbling up the hot matter and cooling it down considerably.  Gravity is an accelerating force.  It accelerates stuff aound here a 32feet per second unless you take the moon into account which slows this acceleration down.  Gravity like movement is a relative thing.  The more mass in a given field the more gravity.  To counter all this mother nature in all her wisdom produced antigravity.  This manifests in like charges being repelled.  There is no positive and negative there is just more or less electricity in a substance. The proton is assigned a positive charge.  Why because it has less mass density.  It is quite large compared to the electron yet it has equal charge effect.  This is because it has less mass density.  If it had the same mass density as an electron it would have the same charge state as an electron and would repel the electron.   A blackhole does not gobble up another blackhole.  We see a blackhole gobbling up the less dense matter surrounding the blackhole at the center of each and every star but blackholes are relavent to blackholes.  Once they have stripped the hot stuff it leaves the core of the star which is at the same mass density as the big black hole.  The two black holes then begin to accelerate away from each other on their way to creating new galaxies somewhere else in time and space.  There has to be antigravity or the big bang has to be repeating itself over and over and over again changing just a little bit every time.  Imploding and exploding so damn fast that all we see is minute changes dictated by whatever force is controlling the whole creator frequency.  Of the two sceanarios I would go with antigravity.  At least on the 7th day when the creator takes a snooze.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 31, 2010, 03:35:27 AM
  @smokey

    The electromagnetic stimulation of radioactive decay can make anything radioactive by decreasing the angular velocity of electrons in the 1s orbital.  They have found this out and can now take radioactive waste and electromagnetically stimulate it until it drops below radiation levels of that you would find in a smoke detector.  What the problem is is control.  When a guy can whip up a device put it in his garage and change his human waste into enough energy to power the neighborhood they loose control.  They no longer have us working night and day paying electric bills and fuel bills and taxes on fuel and taxes on electricity and taxes levied on stuff we make and stuff we do.  We are free to go out and change salt water to fresh change a desert into a farmland change packaging and all our waste into fertilizers and raw materials to rebuild our infrastructures and new structures.  A world of so much there is no need for wars or depletion of natural rescources that cause wars.  I dont know about you but this is no longer a matter of if is it  possible it is a matter of who is in the way of building such a world and why.

Sparks - this is just such a nice post.  Definitely needs framing.  Here's my vision.  I see us carrying a convenient little golf ball sized sphere in our pockets.  Its a simple acryllic material embedding a free floating magnetic monopole - postioned between two fixed metal plates - and a switch which releases the clasp to let that magnetic monopole spin.  Then - when we want some tea - or when we want to cook our stew - we flip that switch and simply toss that little number into the water and wait for it boil.   ;D

Got to be an improvement on all that wiring that keeps us grid locked.  LOL

Kindest regards,
Rosie

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 31, 2010, 03:51:56 AM
   @ all

     We are down wind of Leo and the two of us are heading towards a supercluster of galaxies beyond what is known as the Great Attractor.  The gravity from this dense cluster of matter is pulling the entire Milkyway there.  Since gravity is pretty quick way faster than the speed of light we can assume that this cluster of galaxies is still there even though slowass light is taking forever to get here.  The young cluster of galaxies we are seeing most probably exist as a super blackhole by now long ago gobbling up the hot matter and cooling it down considerably.  Gravity is an accelerating force.  It accelerates stuff aound here a 32feet per second unless you take the moon into account which slows this acceleration down.  Gravity like movement is a relative thing.  The more mass in a given field the more gravity.  To counter all this mother nature in all her wisdom produced antigravity.  This manifests in like charges being repelled.  There is no positive and negative there is just more or less electricity in a substance. The proton is assigned a positive charge.  Why because it has less mass density.  It is quite large compared to the electron yet it has equal charge effect.  This is because it has less mass density.  If it had the same mass density as an electron it would have the same charge state as an electron and would repel the electron.   A blackhole does not gobble up another blackhole.  We see a blackhole gobbling up the less dense matter surrounding the blackhole at the center of each and every star but blackholes are relavent to blackholes.  Once they have stripped the hot stuff it leaves the core of the star which is at the same mass density as the big black hole.  The two black holes then begin to accelerate away from each other on their way to creating new galaxies somewhere else in time and space.  There has to be antigravity or the big bang has to be repeating itself over and over and over again changing just a little bit every time.  Imploding and exploding so damn fast that all we see is minute changes dictated by whatever force is controlling the whole creator frequency.  Of the two sceanarios I would go with antigravity.  At least on the 7th day when the creator takes a snooze.

Wow sparks.  I'm blown away by all this vision.  Very nice indeed.

Regards
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 31, 2010, 04:38:54 AM
Understanding black hole requires you to understand
your looking at a optical illusion
the inside ring equals the outside ring
you can demonstrate this a couple ways
put a little dirt in some water the shine the magnifying glass in it
you see a hour glasd in the dirts particles
now understand a pipe what does it look like from
a distance one ring the first ring is bigger
the the other the hole thru the pipe looks smaller
but its not smaller its the same size you just see
one side so your always either seeing
one half the hour glass or a pipe
now the black hoke can do virtualy anything its not stuck to your laws
just like gravity can change betwen
more frequency more temperature or magnetism
and all three no matter the combination
give you gravity you can have a little frequency
a little magnetism and a lot of temperature change and
you have gravity now if you find the calculation
for the firmula for all three like a=b= c= gravity
then we can overcome any temperature
any magnetism any frequency all the time perfectly
so call this the howell equation of gravity
gravity = f+t+m
any known two give you the third
so the easiest is the temperature
for lift over weight
the amount of magnetism to add to the temperature to abtain
the rest then frequency you will have soon
with daves device suspend a ballon add a metal plate
see how much magnetism to lift and drop it
then use lids or bendin or daves device to add frequency to lift
compute the calculations you will have
the answer to exact specific gravity of anything.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 31, 2010, 05:10:16 AM
Dear Cletus,

I have finally 'succombed' and decided to answer your extraordinary post.  This time mainly because I've been rolling with laughter.  I LOVED the howell equation but you need to define your terms.  And I'm delighted to discover that anyone at all can find gravity variable according to temperature.  It's like science according to Lewis Carroll - an Alice in Wonderland series of weird physics .  It usually gives me a headache to try and read your posts.  I now realise that you're just offering us all a little light relief from reality.  Or rather a lot of light relief from reality.  I'm sure it's appreciated.  But frankly I'd prefer smaller doses.   ;D

Regards,
Rosemary

for those who may have missed it here it is again

so call this the howell equation of gravity
gravity = f+t+m

Got to love it.  All that freedom of thought and freedom of expression.  And an extraordinary license with logic.   :o ::)  LOL   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on August 31, 2010, 05:53:11 AM
   A blackholes gravity and the gravity of the great attractor and the gravity of the bird up in the palm tree outside all intermingle and are felt from one end of this Universe to the other.  Can you stop gravity with anything.  Can you shield it.  The only thing you can do is increase your mass density until you are of equal or greater density than the mass density field you are trying to be relavent to.  Frequency is time dependent.  Field changes measured by a fixed observer over a period of time.  But time is not a constant it is relative.  Time doe not appear to pass identically for observers in different inertial frames.  It has been proven many times by clocks on jets and spacecraft.  The more mass density the slower time appears to pass.  If we could approach a planet 5 or 6 light years away at speeds approaching that of light with a telescope on board to watch what was going on with the planet, as we moved towards it everything on the planet would start to happen faster and faster.  When you move through the spacetime continuom you move through space and time.  We would see what is occuring on the planet which would appear to them like taking thousands of years happening in seconds on board the craft.  The planet would age at an accelerated rate.  Say now we slow the ship down just a light year from the planet and lock in at its velocity.  We would see their past.  If we set off a lazer beacon it will take a year for this beacon to reach them.  If we send out a gravity tug it will reach them immediately.  Say we can communicate in Universal time with this planet through gravity transmission.  We could tell the citizens of the planet we will be there in a year.  By the way we know all of your ancient past and have it recorded here on board.  Then you start sending them pictures of stupid shit they did.  You also predict that one year from now you will start seeing holographic images appearing in your skies.  (The light lazer you sent out)  You put on a regular light show for em.  Then you tell them that we are coming so get your shit together or were going to take care of business when we get there.  Time is not a constant it is totally dependent on the condition of the observer.  Say we get to the planet enact some laws and order topple the slavers and give them some technology maybe even mate with some good lookers.  Now we dont want to spend the rest of eternity amongst the barbarians so we jump aboard the craft and bring it up to high speed.  We have lunch and a nap then we slow down and take a look at what the smart monkeys are doing.  A hundred years have passed for them a day for us.  There doing the same stupid shit they were doing before lunch.  We lived for 100 of their years while it was only a day of ours.  We could do this for tens of thousands of years just popping in now and again to cleanup the zoo.  Meanwhile the folks at home want to know what is taking us so long at work.  We explain.  Kids are a pain in the butt sometimes we understand.  Dont forget to bring us some souveniers.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 31, 2010, 06:09:59 AM
sparky?  I wonder if you shouldn't be writing scripts for Dr Who.  Definitely some frustrated literary talents there is my take.

Nice reading.
Regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 31, 2010, 06:22:48 AM
I would love to see it.  Google Images cannot come up with a actual picture of an electron for me, which is what I was intending on referring to... not an entire atom.  If you find such an image, please let me know.  The thought was that the electron it itself comprised of many smaller quark type aetheric particles.
Hi again twinbeard.  I think classicists consider that the electron is a fundamental particle or what they call a lepton.  But I agree with you.  I also think the electron is a composite of something much smaller. 

I'm just curious what the extent of the B field looks like, given that the flux, by my estimation, should not be able to escape what amounts to a toroidal core, yet the particular geometry of this device may be creating really interesting eddies.
I'm into symmetries and when one uses just two charges - n/s or add neutral - 3 potential charge conditions then one actually is working with something that's closer to a binary system.  Binary systems are good.  We all know how effectively it's used in computer software technologies.  But for me it's essential - because I've had an entire dearth of schooling in math.  So.  It's my 'fall back'.  But what it does is sharpen the focus on those symmetries and I find it entirely engrossing.  Definitely finding all sorts of strange configurations in the toroidal magnetic field that's needed to keep the proposed velocity of the fields.  I think it needs a kind of repulsion and attraction - also and always assuming that the field comprises any kind of fundamental particle at all.  Way too many suppositions for a really earnest thesis.  But it's the best I can do.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

BTW I've also seen an photographic illustration of an electron - in Paul Dyson's book 'Conceptual Physics'.  It looks something like this * * * * *

It's the 'gaps' between that intrigue me.  It seems to drift in and out of our dimensions.  Now you see me - now you don't.  Effectively there's a momentary decay.  The hell of it is that it is still considered to be a stable particle - into INFINITY.  It's very curious.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: wattsup on August 31, 2010, 07:26:25 AM
@sparks

Good brain candy. Thanks.

Added:

OK, one question about those guys doing the space traveling. With all that back and forth. Did they get any older? Was their time or length of actual existence any different?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 31, 2010, 08:01:41 AM
Rosemary you can try to talk your big words
gravity is three frequency
hutchestion levetates with just frequency
temperature is a odvious
and magnetism is polatirity
you need all three or a surplus of any of the three
so gravity = magnetism + temperature+ frequency
you can add words all day there is no other laws of energy
period
and i have string theory to so talk big
havent seen you warp anything
but i have
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 31, 2010, 08:13:05 AM
You so indebth in math huh
so you must have the axis of all number
ya i solved them all how about i amuse you
with this 7/3
solve that
2.333 smart
you pass with a a+
but you failed
7x144,000=1008000/3
=336,000 a perfect number
how bout the problem if the 47 uclid
did you do that well i did
you cant get past 10 much less 11
47  =11 have fun
i beat marco rodin want to sed our debate its on my board
all his books i set him back 12 years
so maybee you see your way behind
darling but your the queen
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 31, 2010, 08:13:17 AM
Rosemary you can try to talk your big words
gravity is three frequency
hutchestion levetates with just frequency
temperature is a odvious
and magnetism is polatirity
you need all three or a surplus of any of the three
so gravity = magnetism + temperature+ frequency
you can add words all day there is no other laws of energy
period
and i have string theory to so talk big
havent seen you warp anything
but i have
You're right Cletus.  I've warped nothing.  But I actually didn't mean to offend you.  I just wanted to point out that there's a level of rich comedy in your posts.  I realise that it's not intended.  But it's still there.  And WHAT big words?  I use simple english - I hope.

Rosemary   ;D
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 31, 2010, 08:27:53 AM
In fact you got me so upset im going go hang out with the devil
the 666 just because hes like the only one on
my level 47 is nimrod
nimrod is m rodin marco rodin
dads a nuclear scientist and hes the second smartest man on earth
to me but you cant see those that have a ear let them hear
those that have a eye let them see
gravity = frequency magetism temperature
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 31, 2010, 08:43:43 AM
Cletus may be a step above us in the evolutionary ladder.
He uses concepts and terminology that seems foreign to us, but it is not to be laughed at.

every now and then he says some things that even my primitive mind can recognize... His pyramid is essentially the the same as mine, but it can be "flipped".
where-as mine stays the same polarity.
Ive done extensive research on the fairfield device, (TriForce and friends)
 and there is certainly a magnetic vortex within.

If you look at how this fits into the larger picture Cletus is trying to paint, you really can't discard anything he has said, no matter how rediculous it may seem to those of us who do not understand.
If you look past his frantic synaptic hysteresis, and subsequent incohesive thought patterns. You will find some underlying knowledge that is very important, and very relevant to what we are doing here.

It's like a co-dependent relationship...
He feels the need to enlighten us with his knowledge,
Yet it is our inability to comprehend his thoughts that frustrates him...



Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 31, 2010, 08:57:43 AM
Cletus may be a step above us in the evolutionary ladder.
He uses concepts and terminology that seems foreign to us, but it is not to be laughed at.

every now and then he says some things that even my primitive mind can recognize... His pyramid is essentially the the same as mine, but it can be "flipped".
where-as mine stays the same polarity.
Ive done extensive research on the fairfield device, (TriForce and friends)
 and there is certainly a magnetic vortex within.

If you look at how this fits into the larger picture Cletus is trying to paint, you really can't discard anything he has said, no matter how rediculous it may seem to those of us who do not understand.
If you look past his frantic synaptic hysteresis, and subsequent incohesive thought patterns. You will find some underlying knowledge that is very important, and very relevant to what we are doing here.

It's like a co-dependent relationship...
He feels the need to enlighten us with his knowledge,
Yet it is our inability to comprehend his thoughts that frustrates him...

Sm0ky - I have no quarrel with anyone's ideas.  But there has to be some kind of logic if it's to be understood.  I'm afraid with the best will in the world I cannot see sequential logic in any of what he writes.  In fact it leaves me with my head spinning.  But I do find a certain 'bleak' humour in his postings.  It shows me where I'm likely to go if I ever lost this rather tenuous grip I have on reality.  It's a scarey prospect. 

I get it that he's got some really deep problems.  I very much doubt that he's on the same level as an experimentalist as Hutchinson.  And I certainly don't see him as a new Einstein or anything like.  But like all eccentrics - which, no doubt is a condition we share on these forums - then he has his value - clearly.  For me, not so much.  But nor am I obliged to read his posts.  And I'm not sure that I have any rights to offend anyone.  So.  I'll go back to saying nothing.  Cletus.  Apologies for laughing.  It was a momentary lapse.  I had a 'fleeting' hope that I could FINALLY enjoy reading your writing.  On the whole I find them deeply disturbing and deeply disturbed.  It can't be fun for you.  And I acknowledge that you definitely know MUCH more than I could ever hope to learn.  Golly.  A 14 year old would beat me at a math quiz. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 31, 2010, 09:37:01 AM
@ Rose

i agree that at LEAST half of what he types doesnt make any sense..

but im begining to think that may just be because of my current perspective.

To get what hes saying, you must reduce everything into an arbitrary value within the matrix.
when you do this, the math becomes much simplier.
in fact, the only different between doing complex trig. and using simple 8th grade matrices
is:   Pi

It doesnt matter how you square the circle, the answer is the same, just + or - values.
Thats why matrices work so well.

Further, he reduces everything into their associated frequency response. So instead of a compound problem, with undefinable ( or predefined) components
You have a simplified problem,
the only component is frequency.

he completely loses me on the color wheel, i dont understand how these things relate, but im trying...

heres the squared circle. this is why there is no heiroglyph for "integration". Yet noone can argue that their math was not just as accurate as ours.

im seriously pondering how his "babysitters" will respond if i were to acquire him as an asset.


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 31, 2010, 09:57:59 AM
For example::
if you triangulate the squared circle, square the resulting octagon, triangulate that square, square the axis
then circle the square.
You have effectively reduced its size to one third.
And what i just did in one sentence, would have taken a mathematician half a sheet of paper, and a whole lot more time.

But, if you were to just read that sentence, without me explaining this to you......
you would think im crazy, and have no clue about Pi, Radii, and the area of a circle. But as you can clearly see here, there are other ways to solve the problem than the commonly accepted model presented by physics.




Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 31, 2010, 01:00:25 PM
For example::
if you triangulate the squared circle, square the resulting octagon, triangulate that square, square the axis
then circle the square.
You have effectively reduced its size to one third.
And what i just did in one sentence, would have taken a mathematician half a sheet of paper, and a whole lot more time.

But, if you were to just read that sentence, without me explaining this to you......
you would think im crazy, and have no clue about Pi, Radii, and the area of a circle. But as you can clearly see here, there are other ways to solve the problem than the commonly accepted model presented by physics.

Thanks Sm0ky - I get it.  Very cool.

Kindest as ever
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on August 31, 2010, 01:29:47 PM
For example::
if you triangulate the squared circle, square the resulting octagon, triangulate that square, square the axis
then circle the square.
You have effectively reduced its size to one third.
And what i just did in one sentence, would have taken a mathematician half a sheet of paper, and a whole lot more time.

But, if you were to just read that sentence, without me explaining this to you......
you would think im crazy, and have no clue about Pi, Radii, and the area of a circle. But as you can clearly see here, there are other ways to solve the problem than the commonly accepted model presented by physics.

simply eloquent sm0ky2.
classrooms tend to make it harder than it really is or should be.

as an aside, i personally think laurence kim peek is the most fascinating person (that i am aware of) in all of history. for those of you who don't know who kim is, he is 'rainman', the real mccoy. the world lost a great man last year...
1/5 blocked by stanford university... boo, hiss
2/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJjAbs-3kc8
3/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Auufbu_ZdDI
4/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRPxMDj33S4
5/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1aA5osvYgY
the corpus callosum, or lack thereof, is an amazing thing.

people, all people, have a need to share a bit of themselves with others.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on August 31, 2010, 02:30:13 PM
Hi Rosemary,

Hi again twinbeard.  I think classicists consider that the electron is a fundamental particle or what they call a lepton.  But I agree with you.  I also think the electron is a composite of something much smaller. 


Indeed.  It seems as though the classicists suffer not from incorrect logic, but incomplete data collected by their senses and extensions thereto.  A parallel would be our observations of distant stars, and recently, distant planets.  Extrapolate the awareness of the actual structure of these distant solar systems from our view thereof a few thousand years ago, vs our view today... we are no longer looking at "twinkling diamonds in the sky."

If, on a quantum scale, the universe follows the fractal iteration patterns we find evident in just about everything else, then the electron MUST be composed of smaller particles, or depending on your perspective on the matter(pun intended), higher frequency waves heterodyned into frequencies an octave higher than gamma rays.  While observing scope traces of my high frequency alternator, I notice the wave representing the frequency of alternation seems to be amplitude modulated by another wave an order of magnitude lower in frequency.  Only when tuned to resonance does the heterodyned wave showing frequency of alternation reach full amplitude, without modulation.  I recorded this effect... it is shown at about 3:35 into the following video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIZDu7HFmJI  Again, I will use the analogy of the distant solar system.  With our current capabilities, those solar systems appear as atomic structures are represented.  A higher resolution view, however, would visibly show the planets composed of particles like our own, which are in turn composed of smaller particles, and so on.  Since we have a local instance of the remote system structure for reference, we easily make the logical connection that remote planets are like our own planets in basic structure.  We do not, however, have any locally scaled instance of those subatomic particles, so in that regard, we are still looking at "twinkling diamonds" on the quantum scale.


I'm into symmetries and when one uses just two charges - n/s or add neutral - 3 potential charge conditions then one actually is working with something that's closer to a binary system.  Binary systems are good.  We all know how effectively it's used in computer software technologies.  But for me it's essential - because I've had an entire dearth of schooling in math. 

Now I find that very interesting from the inventor of the device that breaks classical symmetry by using an open loop system not accounted for by academia's symmetrical regauging of Maxwell and Faraday's original work on EM! :) !

Yes, binary systems are very easy to work with in computing (I make my living in the field), but I think for different reasons.  High/low, on/off, 0/1 duality is much easier to manage in a semiconductor environment than a sliding voltage scale.  Can you imagine if we tried to make a microprocessor with a few billion rheostats?  :)

I as well have studied quite a bit of mathematics, being most enamored with the work of Mandlebrot, et. al. concerning fractal iterations and iterative systems.  I feel that our understanding of things like weather systems will take a massive leap forward when we start to apply this critical mathematics to the models, instead of using traditional linear algebras and euclidean geometries to describe phenomenon which are obviously much more complex.

So.  It's my 'fall back'.  But what it does is sharpen the focus on those symmetries and I find it entirely engrossing.  Definitely finding all sorts of strange configurations in the toroidal magnetic field that's needed to keep the proposed velocity of the fields.  I think it needs a kind of repulsion and attraction - also and always assuming that the field comprises any kind of fundamental particle at all.  Way too many suppositions for a really earnest thesis.  But it's the best I can do.

Of course, we are all kind of prodding and guessing our way through... it is that now we have the opportunity to prod and guess together, regardless of physical location or nationality, in real time, that holds the most promise in finding the real truth, quantifying it into equations, and using that truth for our betterment!

BTW I've also seen an photographic illustration of an electron - in Paul Dyson's book 'Conceptual Physics'.  It looks something like this * * * * *

It's the 'gaps' between that intrigue me.  It seems to drift in and out of our dimensions.  Now you see me - now you don't.  Effectively there's a momentary decay.  The hell of it is that it is still considered to be a stable particle - into INFINITY.  It's very curious.

Almost like a phase modulation?

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 31, 2010, 03:57:54 PM
Guys - Wilby and Sm0ky - that was salutory  - and many thanks.  I would be proud to emulate you both.  I shall give it my best shot.

A lesson well learned.  And Cletus - I'm old and addled and excessively dim witted.  Bear with me.

Kindest regards,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on August 31, 2010, 04:19:16 PM
Hello again Twinbeard.  What a thoughtful post.  I'm really blown away by the talent on this forum.  Delighted to learn that there's more than one mathematician on board.

I assure you I've invented NOTHING.  I use a simple switching circuit to try and prove a concept related to electric current flow.  But there are FAR more effective systems on these forums and - frankly - the only possible advantage to that circuit is that it's measurable.  It seems that energy values in motors are not so easily guaged.  But I know virtually nothing about motors.  Just a general impression.

Yes I think the answer is in fractals.  I'm actually working with someone who's got the required software.  But our early efforts are simply to show the shapes in my rather eccentric thesis. 

In any event - I'm not sure that we're still on topic.  It's just that there are certain hints at 'gravity' type interactions in Dave's rig that captivate me.  And hopefully, as you say, we'll find the solution on these forums.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 31, 2010, 04:54:19 PM
If I Gave You all the answers what could you
do?
If I give you some they still have intentions
I didnt calculate like a light bulb made for
light but it also killed many people
burns down house blinds people in road
lazers fix vision and cut oil rigs
wheres the line between deciding
whats good and what evil
even marco does not release things
so when my nerve conduction is complete
you know what that does more people dive into swiming
pools two feet deep and fill our hospitals
expecting to be healed thing dont work like you wish
sparky your square and circle is not complete
its not wrong but its not finished well it is finished
its all how you perceive it I guess
but you in the middle to far forward two far back
if the circle and square started to grow
again what would they become?
How do you enter power to the circle
with out breaking the loop?
I shouldnt do this too you but im sorry I dont know who you are
take the pyramid the myans cut the cap
why theres 5 cursed days these are the five points of the
square the four open top and the 1 goes into the next
pyramid and the next pyramid goes into the first
take three fingers from each hand and a thumb
put them together but put them together one hand inside the other
you see symetry now cut the body in half
theres two sides but there still one
but now you can input power to the left side
and have it come out the right
now take your four corners of earth
male and female 4 sides of the body
but where does the pyramid intersect to transfer power
the  if you had neverending  
your body would feel so good because it would be perfect
symitry axis of infinity
well enough the comedy rose your probly smarter then me
type better then me and explain better then me
lets put it this way when God built the earth he needed a rest
why did he need to rest?
Maybee even the stuff he built was a challange for him
and mines a challange for me
i was very upset last night
probly need a peer reveiw like marco
a team to decide what gets released and what doesnt
You know I made a light bulb sing
like a speaker i got my cap buzzing
now wireless now it sparks good like a plasma
but really strugling on getting the power to
come out the light bulb rather then thru it
maybey why tesla used edision bulbs does anyone know if morays
were hallogen or incandecent what type bulbs did he use?
I sent 10,000 volts to the amp probe across the table thru air
dont ask me how that works not shure
well today is day lord hath made mabee ill find sonething cool
to share like how to light a incandesent wireless
maybee daves device can polorise the glass
on the top to pull the energy from the fillament
like the fillament is the electromagnet and the
glass is magnetised to create the ion flow im pretty shure thats my problem
oh it must be the phospur i probly need clear bulbs
i start there   
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on August 31, 2010, 05:06:19 PM
Part my message was cut out this
computer Goverment glitch
i guess so well change seexx
to intercourse if you had
intercourse forevever you would Be like a God
perfect unity of the four corners of earth
and no offense women but we were better before God split that rib
the 25 rib conducts the body flow across the rib cage
making 3 in 1
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 31, 2010, 06:40:30 PM
@ Cletus

the squared circle is just a visual representation of the matrix. the second example, i show how to derrive the fraction 1/3.
but this can be used to derrive ANY fraction.
any proportion, without the use of numbers.
the more complex the path you take across the matrix, the more steps in the squared circle to complete that fraction. the "complete" image would be an infinite number of squared circles and circled squares, on top of a triangulation pattern of infinitely decreasing size.
i can barely fathom its complexity, and can only draw them one fraction at a time.

if you put them all together, you cant even see what it is.,
just a grid. lines going in every concievable direction.
like the aether.
-------------------------------------------------------

@ Rose

the electron / proton / neutron are made up of ~130-222 smaller magnetic components, the cummulative magnetic field determines what kind of "particle" it is, and the "charge" it emits.

take a magnet and smash it (gently) with a hammer.
crush it into tiny pieces, but try not to strike it too hard or you'll kick the magnetism out of the material..

once you get 1000 or so tiny magnetic fragements.

pich off a few piles and watch how they orient themselves

each one is vastly different.,  as is the magnetic field it puts off. this is similar, but also very different.
It's is as close as i can take you, without having actual "monopoles" to play with.

But this is the physical make-up of each of the particles, sub-particles, and sub-sub-particles.
Each one being the same, but made up of a different number / polarity/ intensity of magnetic components.

there's no physical difference between the particles, only their "charge" or "net magnetic field"
when the two are exactly opposite one another, you have each other's "anti-particle". colliding the two will anihilate both into pure energy.

There are grouping-patterns that arrise more often than others, due to the specific conditions in our portion of the universe. the three "atomic" particles are some of these "common" patterns.

heres another not-so-picaso, i draw them "round", they're not really round, its just the field thats round.. if that makes any sense,
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 31, 2010, 06:51:50 PM
Quote
from Cletus
sent 10,000 volts to the amp probe across the table thru air
dont ask me how that works not shure

Ed showed us how this works.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 31, 2010, 08:06:20 PM
hi everyone!....i have a couple of questions....cletus, do you think we are headed in the right direction with these devices?....and jesus, did you get your device in the mail yet?....cletus, please keep posting on this thread, i value your intelligence....i have only a little, but what i do have is persistent curiosity....cletus, i am in the dark, you have the means to illuminate so that i dont have to grope around in the darkness, although maybe sometimes it is necessary....i mean if i were shown it all at once, would i be able to comprehend it?....or do i feel my way in the dark, little by little, a spark here, a glimmer there, to put all the pieces together?.....anyway, jesus, let me know when the mail comes!......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 31, 2010, 09:58:29 PM
Thank you @lambright!

The device arrived today and it is under test.

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 31, 2010, 10:11:22 PM
jesus...the secret ingredient is black iron oxide, Fe3O4, from alpha chemicals.com.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on August 31, 2010, 10:23:28 PM
jesus...the secret ingredient is black iron oxide, Fe3O4, from alpha chemicals.com.....david

Thank you @lambright

That is why it is magnetic then.

My question is: It is the metal tube aluminum?

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 31, 2010, 11:09:23 PM
jesus, yes it is aluminum, but i believe that it is the oxide that is radiating....my ferrofluid core device works very well...my next device will be a Leedskalnin shaped device, using the oxide as the core material, mounted over an iron block similar to Eds device......david....added;...the effect i describe is very subtle, but once you see it, it is unmistakable....like if you dipped the ring into bubble solution.....the film that remains.....if you turn the ring slowly...my friend joel was viewing the device against  a window with mini blinds which seemed to work well....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 01, 2010, 12:31:38 AM
@ cletus
i still cant send PM's for some reason.. i hope stephan gets back soon so he can fix that....

you can email me if you need to:  Sm0ky2@aol.com

i dont think im able to quite grasp what you are saying..
is this close? or did i take that in completely the wrong way?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 01, 2010, 01:15:20 AM
Hi again Twinbeard.  I only look at youtube at night as our systems are overrun and it gets those interminable breaks.  Just saw all three.  Very interesting work you're doing there. 

I would love to know your facility with fractals.  You mention that you're into Mandelbrot's work.  I'd be very interested in continuing this discussion - but feel that we need to do it on another thread.  I'll be posting more on my thesis in my own thread.  Hopefully you'll join us there?  In due course?  I'll pm you.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 01, 2010, 01:18:51 AM
Hi Dave.  I see everyone's getting their rigs and am feeling jealous.  Can I remind you that I'm on your mailing list?  I'll email my address - in case I haven't done so already.

Thanks very much for this.  And Dave, btw, I think you're underestimating the mailing costs to SA.  Let me know if this is beyond what you're anticipating.  I'd be very happy to refund you if and as required.

Kindest as ever,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 01:28:49 AM
Smoky im sorry I just fried my whole lab
what a bitch theres no wrong mistakes
just just expensive ones
trying to explain to pge there electronic chips in there
smart metters are stupidest invention
ever that 240 volts creats magnetic feilds magnetic feild wipe computer chips
they respomd weve had them in water metters
ya water metters donf run 240 volts at 100 amps plus
around your chip besides the first person to hack that frequency
and give ca a free month gets a purple heart
from me for them billing me a month
my breaker main was off besides the dont measure the
energy i send thats not 60 hz
anyways smoky i cant see your email
your first drawing was the best
email email me at ch@record7.com
take daves device to the pge metter magniise it all watch them scientist try figure that out
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 01, 2010, 01:50:12 AM
Sm0ky - hi. 

Those shapes of yours are intriguing.  I have a similar thesis to your own - relating to the subdivision of particles into smaller and smaller.  But I always require a dipole.  I think that perhaps the light and dark always go together.  A state of eternal duality.  The one state needs the other.  And I don't need an infinite subdivision as I think matter actually gets structured from just a single dipole.  But that's just my thinking. 

Which, as it relates to gravity also then allows for antigravity.  No need for that cosmological constant.  But I also see gravity being essentially magnetic in nature and that's what I'm hoping that the Lambright effect will prove.
 
Dave's showing us a really interesting phenomenon.  He's got an arrangement of simple asymmetrical inductive shapes arranged in a loose circle - and while it can send a simple compass wild - it is, itself, not even able to hold magnetic filings.  What I'm proposing is that he's actually 'liberated' those fields that hold atoms bound - inside solid material - which are themselves just simple one dimensional fields.  Outside the atom itself - but yet has it's 'abode' in bound atomic structures.

What's intriguing to me is that it seems to require this 'complex' state of magnetisation to get this effect.  That's the entire 'thrust' of my search.  What has he actually done?  Personally I see a repulsion in those fields as well as attraction.  If I can find them I'll try and upload some early scribbles on this work.  Certainly I see these fields as the 'carrier' so to speak of the energy exchange.  They somehow operate as fields but are also able to move through space - changing abodes - as required.  I'm explaining this badly.  Bottom line - I REALLY think Dave's onto something.  And the glimmer is just one of the many aspects that blow me away.

Kindest regards
Rosie
Edited - Spelling LOL. I get it most readers don't care that much.   ;D
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 01, 2010, 02:12:35 AM
Here's the first lot that we tested.  I'll explain the relevance hereunder.

I was trying to find out how essential it was to keep that non-uniform shape that Dave has in those 'split' pipes.  We're using the same material - but have used the full 'circle'.  What we found was that they definitely have the same 'effect' on material.  It even seems to get a magnetic type response in a cotton bud. 

The toroid structures are slightly different.  They are both wound 'inside' and the other wound both inside and outside.  Inside obviously runs along the length of the pipe.  It was complicated winding - and a rather boring result.  Nothing unusual seen in either torus - but all variations of those pipes seemed to generate that same weird response to any material 'hung' in promixity.  Could NOT detect any lights - none of us could.  But I certainly saw a 'halo' effect or something 'light' around the apparatus.  Then I found I could see this everywhere.  And since I'm half blind I think we can all rest assured that I was definitely imposing something onto reality.  LOL.  I HAVE, however, seen that elusive glimmer on one of Dave's videos.  And that was certainly not imagined. 

 ;D
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 01, 2010, 02:13:01 AM
@lambright

I have not seen it yet. But now I know what to expect.

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 02:24:38 AM
You are correct the blood of the lamb is pure as snow
all color cones from magenta put water in red you see it turns purple
heres your axis of heaven eternal life and hell
heaven = red blue magenta white indigo
hell = black yellow green cyan chartues

green cannot exist without water
so no yellow no cyan holograms die
chartrues is algae first to die
without water
black is a black hole radiation
you cannot discharge without water
they will ask for a drop of water a God telss them no
your stuck in a black hole a hologram green is invisible bending red and blue thru water and so you see your fucked
water is the key
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 01, 2010, 02:40:28 AM
These two are for Cletus.  I was blown away by the symmetry.  I'll show you another hereafter.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 01, 2010, 02:42:59 AM
second one for Cletus.  I was blown away by these symmetries. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 03:38:55 AM
Dam im fucking impressed that second one is good do you see the davinci
box its like perfect in ways but not in others
shit i cant even say it not perfect
let me look some more the davinci box is what holds the
septor or whatecer that scroll is its the ice chest
looking thing you made my day rose
where do i send you flowers
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 01, 2010, 03:42:11 AM
Hi Rosemary,

Hi again Twinbeard.  I only look at youtube at night as our systems are overrun and it gets those interminable breaks.  Just saw all three.  Very interesting work you're doing there. 

Thank you so much.  I have endeavored to document all of the research I have done on youtube and EF... I will get around to making a page dedicated to it on one of my hosts sooner or later.  Regarding the choppy youtube... if you load the page, and pause the video until your browser caches it all, you can then play it back smoothly, as you essentially have a local copy at that point.

I would love to know your facility with fractals.  You mention that you're into Mandelbrot's work.  I'd be very interested in continuing this discussion - but feel that we need to do it on another thread.  I'll be posting more on my thesis in my own thread.  Hopefully you'll join us there?  In due course?  I'll pm you.

Per your invitation, I will be happy to join in on your thread, and please do PM me.  I have some correspondence on the fractal topic that is not for public consumption which I have leave to share with you personally, not due to secrecy, but to out of respect for the privacy of the source.

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 03:48:40 AM
You got all there just missing some dots between the outside
circles that go exactly in middle the davinci box
the six five pointed stars in the middle
and the lines on the bottom of the ice chest
only ones filled in its pretty dam good
did you talk to God last night
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 01, 2010, 03:54:18 AM
second one for Cletus.  I was blown away by these symmetries.

Flower of life, anyone?

http://peggymarie010.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/flower-of-life.gif

Which reminds me of some work K0W0O0N0 is doing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QP0UI4sVz0

This is the first in a long series of videos he has posted with various tests of this design... see any parallels?
Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 01, 2010, 04:11:09 AM
You got all there just missing some dots between the outside
circles that go exactly in middle the davinci box
the six five pointed stars in the middle
and the lines on the bottom of the ice chest
only ones filled in its pretty dam good
did you talk to God last night

 ;D Knew you'd like it. 
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 01, 2010, 04:22:38 AM
Flower of life, anyone?

http://peggymarie010.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/flower-of-life.gif

Which reminds me of some work K0W0O0N0 is doing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QP0UI4sVz0

This is the first in a long series of videos he has posted with various tests of this design... see any parallels?
Cheers,
Twinbeard
Hi again Twinbeard.  I've seen that first design rendered by a muslim artist in the most perfect 'botanic'? anyway - plant like structures with flowers.  It's mind bending.  Really wonderful. 

Guys - the secret is in geometry.  I'm SO sure of that.  Wish I knew more.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 01, 2010, 04:47:20 AM
second one for Cletus.  I was blown away by these symmetries.

it would have worked out better if that artist had triangulated the squares instead of the circles.
thats why the two rings drawn are not the same.
its actually a lot more symetrical than that drawing.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 01, 2010, 04:51:46 AM
Flower of life, anyone?

http://peggymarie010.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/flower-of-life.gif
Which reminds me of some work K0W0O0N0 is doing...
This is the first in a long series of videos he has posted with various tests of this design... see any parallels?
Cheers,
Twinbeard

Do you know who invented this coil?? this "starship" coil?

Marco Rodin,  now cletus tells me i get to call you a NIMROD!

Clanzer does a much better job at demonstrating it

http://www.overunity.org.uk/showthread.php?t=510 (http://www.overunity.org.uk/showthread.php?t=510)

see. NOW i understand..
Cletus saw this, the first time he looked at what were were doing..
he TOLD us this..



Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 01, 2010, 04:52:53 AM
it would have worked out better if that artist had triangulated the squares instead of the circles.
thats why the two rings drawn are not the same.
its actually a lot more symetrical than that drawing.

Hi Sm0ky.  I'm sure you're right.  I was trying to find pi in that arrangement.  Failed miserably but I'm reasonably satisfied that the next circle will double and the next.  I've been told NOT.  But I'm not sure.

Regards
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 01, 2010, 04:58:46 AM
Hi Rosemary,

Hi again Twinbeard.  I've seen that first design rendered by a muslim artist in the most perfect 'botanic'? anyway - plant like structures with flowers.  It's mind bending.  Really wonderful. 

Guys - the secret is in geometry.  I'm SO sure of that.  Wish I knew more.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

That is an ancient symbol from many cultures and religions found all across the planet... Abydos, Egypt at the Temple of Osiris, Hindu Temples, Aztec, Inca, the Forbidden City in China... could go on for some time.  It is considered by some to be a "sacred geometry."  It shows up as a resonance pattern as well:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCUg4Kx_CjY

You mentioned that you key on symmetries... I key on pattern recognition;)  If I see a pattern somewhere, particularly in nature, and see the same pattern elsewhere, under a completely different context, I know there is an underlying connection there somewhere.  The fun part is ferreting out exactly what that connection is. 

Spiral galaxies, hurricanes, the pattern I saw in the ferrofluid when exposed to a torsional B field;
atoms and solar systems;
DNA, Leedskalnin's double helix representation of how "individual magnets" move, and the filamentary double helix patterns of aetheric flux paths between galaxies and clusters of galaxies currently called "dark matter" or "dark energy"...
these are all examples of fractal pattern iterations.  I saw identical patterns with your diagrams of variants of Davids incredible permutation of Leedskalnins PMH and this ancient symbol held in high regard by almost every great civilization.  Lets find the connection:)

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 01, 2010, 05:24:22 AM
Do you know who invented this coil?? this "starship" coil?

Marco Rodin,  now cletus tells me i get to call you a NIMROD!

Clanzer does a much better job at demonstrating it

http://www.overunity.org.uk/showthread.php?t=510 (http://www.overunity.org.uk/showthread.php?t=510)

see. NOW i understand..
Cletus saw this, the first time he looked at what were were doing..
he TOLD us this..

You guys can worship Rodin and call me names all you want... none for me, thanks.  Sticks and stones... all that.  Don't be a douchenozzle.  See?  I can call names too.  It does neither of us any good.  Also, I do not want to take anything away from Cletus... I'm sure he has valuable things to contribute, and some unique insight, but honestly, one needs to be able to express oneself in language that others can understand to get a point across.  Verbiage, syntax, and sensible structure make a difference in when trying to communicate ideas to others. 

If you have built one, you would realize that the B field in Rodins coil is planar, while the starship is cylindrical.  They have different properties, and a guy going by the handle hhoforvolts came up with the starship.  I use a variant in my FlowerPower device that I designed, and call the Leedskalnin Starship... 24 points, bifilar non progressive wind.  Totally not based on Rodins math... I use it because it a) concentrates the B field in the center while b) allowing the exterior parts of the wind to act as an antenna for the E field, which is just about right for my purposes.  In fact, in the links you referenced, post 7 and 8, Clanzer is building my variant.  Don't believe me?  Check the datestamps on my video posts vs. his, or the datestamps of my posts on EF.  I posted a scan of my winding jig there some time ago. 

All you are doing with your name calling and self indulgant ego stroking mental masturbation is alienating intelligent people of real scientific accomplishment who are making real contributions.

Constructive debate?  I'm up for it.  Worthless trolling?  Love your hair, hope you win... NEXT!!!!

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 05:40:33 AM
Rose i sent you a priivate message
nimrod was never once degraded by God he not only has power over hell
a place God cannot go but he gets a axis exactly parralle
to heaven a exact oposite he said to be a mighty hunter
and deceives even 1/3 the angles the path is straight and narrow
you see mathew 7:14 few will find it
7/3 2.3333 I gave you the answer
marco has power and a lot of it
dont wory devil went down to georgia
for you
there a long way till me and him go to war
and God said there would be war but its also the prince
job to declare peace a war does not mean millions die
be fruitfull and populate the earth
but bible is full of war grandpa did a lot of work with geneva
treaties and theres only a few not playing by the rules
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 05:54:42 AM
Ill corect you again and defend marko
have you seen marco wire a coil
have you seen marco with a coil
marko did not build a coil
marco built eithe a optic crystal or a optic crystal with a plasma
similar to the magnifyer glass with
the neon thru it but the numbers represent cuts on the crystal
you cannot land on the sun and drink ice tea with wires he specificaly tells you that the coil was put out by the goverment and when he found out he was a little upset but glad that people were listenening
its like my flyiny triangle i fixed the polarity
on i couldnt build it but the goverment did
and landed it in my hometown on
aug 22 but i was not there in fresno i was at my shop in bakersfield
what we can do is limited to our help
marco has a lot of help now and technology is moving extremly fast between me and him if you knoticed everything
has picked up in science im about 3 months its no longer stuck
like it has been since tesla died and
were not yet in goverment but i will be
God said Im to be the leader of the west
read the bush scrolls you will see
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 01, 2010, 06:12:41 AM
here you go rose


that was actually helpful, i see something i overlooked before..


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 06:28:20 AM
Smoky you got the pattern its just complicated because the second ring is off
a bit im going to Give the answer to rose
then rose can correct the rings
Or you can try spin the outside ring
till the circles line up 34543
sorry I dont have the programs you do
this should start your pattern of either a bit bigger or a little bit off
this is seperating your prontons and electrons and building your next ring

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 06:36:50 AM
Remember i said the pyrramids
intersect you see when you spin it
32123
then imaginge the 123 the other way
bout the 3 is the base 2 is past center
1 is the peak

Then reverse 321 again
its pefectly symetrical over the 1
something rodin could not do
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 01, 2010, 06:45:56 AM
i noticed that when i was triangulating it,
its not drawn with enough precision.
its "off" a bit..



what i noticed is... their phase
they are 180-degrees apart.

meaning when one fluxuates "north", the one on either side adjacent to it is fluxing "south".

This sheds a lot of insight on a point someone made earlier, as "what happens when they're odd numbers"
(sparks? maybe?)

we would have to deduce this to prime-odd numbers, each non-prime odd number would have the same frequency response.

2/3 , 2/5, 2/7, 2/11 ect. and you will see the phase differentials between the tubes.




Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 01, 2010, 06:53:14 AM
hi twinbeard...thanks for posting!...you are familiar with Mandelbrot i understand....his sets are a description of a flat plane vortex? ...Fibonacci's spiral and the Mandelbrot sets should go together...i believe that the way that all plants grow follows a magnetic pattern...the same pattern like you talked about...the helix...when this radiation is made to vortex it gets very strong....can you tell me more of Mandelbrot and Julia?...thanks....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 07:05:55 AM
Dam spark i thought this was going be top secrete i guess
it not no more you just hit the string too
move your two dots to the middle black and white
now you have your
--++
++++ triangles
the twelve triangles of 12,000
just cross your dots with a x three of them
so much for science its busted 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 01, 2010, 07:10:25 AM
Now,.  as we discussed earlier,

the induction originates at the point where the tubes meet.

This means that BOTH sides of the tube, are pulsing north AND south, simultaneously.
one from itself, and one from the tube next to it.
i dont know how to explain that so it makes sense...
its like a "DC" magnetic pulse current at ~ 281 Ghz

if you want to know the polarity theres a point between the "gap"
just on the inside of the metal
you can suspend a magnetized piece of needle on a string and it will act as a compass.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 07:19:02 AM
You get exact cuts of the pipes when you line the third ring up with the second you see they are not ezactly equal but are
they alternate ill be in court dealing with my stuoid earth
battery arrest tomaroe then ill post the correct key
you have it already but you need to line the rings up
smoky but you have string theory now
well the points ill fill you in on the lines
tomaroe send me your email
so i can fill you in 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 07:25:11 AM
Your yellow dots redid my black hole formula you see the same frequency the six again the inside the outside equal
a tunnel a pipe you go thru time
between the v you call it phase i call it amazing
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 01, 2010, 07:36:40 AM
@ Cletus

yeah, i was gonna re-do that drawing to show Dave's 18 instead of 12, but then i realized they were the same as the 6. just twice as large,
so the 6 is in between,
the 18 is in line with the 6,
and the 24 is off-set.
and the 36 will give the best output.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on September 01, 2010, 07:41:01 AM
    Since there are realitivistic effects of time and distance being warped everything we see in the lightverse may obtain its energy from darkverses that reside at different energy densities either side of the lightverse.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 01, 2010, 07:47:47 AM
Hi Cletus,

Let me share a little philosophy on religion with you... religion is a mechanism of control over a population.  Its primary means of effecting this control over a society is fear of retribution.  Galileo, anyone?  Quoth the Indigo Girls:  "Galileo's head was on the block, his crime was looking at the truth...  I call on the resting soul of Galileo, King of night vision, King of Insight."  Galileo was persecuted BY THE CHURCH because he understood and built upon that blasphemous concept brought forward by Copernicus that THE EARTH WAS NOT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.  Stephen Hawking on the matter:  "Galileo, perhaps more than any other single person, was responsible for the birth of modern science."  Almost 500 years after his death, completely vindicated by the science he was progenitor to, Galileo has the unique privilege of still giving the church the finger every day: 
http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/galileo/finger.html
In truth, more atrocities, genocides, inequities, and downright lies have been committed under the banner of religion throughout history than any other 3 social forces combined. 

The second point I will raise has to do with chess, the "Game of Kings."  Pieces on a chessboard are representative of parts of society.  The king and queen literally represent royalty.  The bishops represent the force of religion on a population.  They protect the royalty internally from the knights (military or police) who in turn protect both the church and royalty from the rooks (organized crime).
The pawns, of course, are cannon fodder... the first sent into battle with opposing nations.  Ever wonder why there are so many Pawn shops but no King shops?  The point to that is that religion is one of the most powerful tools used by rulers to effect their will.  To wit: Why are there so many versions of the Bible?  Simply because it has be edited, amended, and rewritten countless times over the centuries to suit the needs of the ruling party at that specific time, precisely because religion is a tool used to rule over men and women.

Ill corect you again and defend marko
have you seen marco wire a coil
have you seen marco with a coil

Ahemm... from his own website, first video:
http://www.markorodin.com/content/view/27/60/

Checkmate.  Thank you for playing.  Anyone else?  No?  Good.
Can we return to doing some science now, upon that fine foundation Galileo laid for us?

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 01, 2010, 07:56:31 AM
@ twinbeard

organized religion aside..
there are things in the bible, that originated from ancient egyptian writings
which may be very relevant here.

their description of electricity, magnetism, and energy in general was almost identicle to the descriptions used by Ed Leedskalnin.

remnants of this have survived even today in the Holy Babble.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 01, 2010, 08:32:05 AM
hi twinbeard...thanks for posting!...

Hi David!  Nice to meet you.  I have to ask, because you look quite familiar... played any golf in Denver lately?  If not, it is merely a coincidence of appearance, but that gentlemans name was David as well.


you are familiar with Mandelbrot i understand....his sets are a description of a flat plane vortex?
Not exactly...  only recently have we had the computing power to represent the sets visually in greater
than two axes.  Enter the mandelbulb:
http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/mandelbulb.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w6vo9t62c0

quaternion julia... the 2nd 1/4 of this one shows the quaternion render...  looks quite like a toroidal magnetic field to me:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DceNY8flLM
mandelcube:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLSIaNR9Rr0

and finally, open source software to render your own:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mandelbulber/

...Fibonacci's spiral and the Mandelbrot sets should go together...i believe that the way that all plants grow follows a magnetic pattern...

Hear, Hear!  Ever notice that if you view an entire oak tree, roots and branches, you see something similar to the field of a spherical magnet?

the same pattern like you talked about...the helix...when this radiation is made to vortex it gets very strong....can you tell me more of Mandelbrot and Julia?...thanks....david

Its not so much the sets that are important, IMHO, it is recognizing fractally iterative systems in nature.  The film Pi was right... mathematics IS the language of nature.  What would you like to know?  I will do my best to accomodate, but I am far from the authority on the subject... there are entire forums devoted to the subject... I'm sure we could recruit one of their potentates to assist, however.

Cheers,
Twinbeard

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 01, 2010, 08:34:42 AM
@ twinbeard

organized religion aside..
there are things in the bible, that originated from ancient egyptian writings
which may be very relevant here.

their description of electricity, magnetism, and energy in general was almost identicle to the descriptions used by Ed Leedskalnin.

remnants of this have survived even today in the Holy Babble.


I concur... we have lost quite a bit of info through the years, and more has been hidden.  The end of that last ice age really kicked our asses.

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on September 01, 2010, 01:36:45 PM
If you do a some mathmaticall speculation as to how many times mankind in the last million years or so was able to come to a point in his technological advancement (the smart monkeys ability to create tools of various forms) where his tools had the potential to master nature itself to create energy from matter and matter from the created energy using the last three hundred years as a constant in the acceleration of mankinds technology the probablity of ancient civilizations pocessing hightech tools is almost a surety.  What they did with this technology is most probably to destroy each other in some stupid religious wars.  In the beginning all was void.  Everything was in the form of dark matter.  Then God made light.  Obviously this God dude was a dark matter elitist who went off and created his own Universe and pisssed off the darkmatter power structure.  The forces of light and dark battling ever since. ::)
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 01, 2010, 02:19:23 PM
Sir or Madam,

This is to inform you that you have been awarded the prestigious "Internet Humor" merit badge, informally known as the "I LOL'd" award.  As a result, you have earned the right to use the previously locked <giggity> tag in all html you create, as well as proudly display your merit badge in any and all posts to public forums.  Allow us all to offer our most heartfelt congratulations on your achievement.

Sincerely,
The Internet

If you do a some mathmaticall speculation as to how many times mankind in the last million years or so was able to come to a point in his technological advancement (the smart monkeys ability to create tools of various forms) where his tools had the potential to master nature itself to create energy from matter and matter from the created energy using the last three hundred years as a constant in the acceleration of mankinds technology the probablity of ancient civilizations pocessing hightech tools is almost a surety.  What they did with this technology is most probably to destroy each other in some stupid religious wars.  In the beginning all was void.  Everything was in the form of dark matter.  Then God made light.  Obviously this God dude was a dark matter elitist who went off and created his own Universe and pisssed off the darkmatter power structure.  The forces of light and dark battling ever since. ::)
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: dllabarre on September 01, 2010, 03:48:33 PM
Back to coil designs....
http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm)

Alfred M. Hubbard's coil design has always interested me.
He powered an electrical motor to run a boat with it.


"he selected to put 8 cylinder coils around his central coil.
Starting from the center of each of these 8, if you draw a line
to the center of the coil, you have a distance that can be derived
by dividing the circle up into 8 equal angles - 45 degrees.
Then using algebra, you can find the inner core diameter
relative to those outer coil diameters.
The ratio works out to be 1.613"


If this post has nothing to do with this thread then please ignore it.  :-X

DonL


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 04:22:08 PM
When god pissed off the dark
matter it was light in the begining the he seperates the
light which creates darkness then he says let there be light
he times his magic show till sun apears
around the earth then in end theres no
need of sun nor moon a light we are in a loop
you cannot die everyone lives eternaly whether its inside
earth when time stops or outside with time stoped and no watter now if you went to the moon and warp water then you would be a God
controlling the implosion and explosion
of planets so lets magnetise water and build a power supply
to send it to moon get off this dam planet
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 01, 2010, 04:26:58 PM
@all

This is my report of the device sent by @lambright.

I have not been able to make it work or to see the effect.

Thinking that maybe it was damaged during the mail journey, after several hours of having it hanged from a string I decided to clean it up a little.

It was a weather mistreated aluminum tube, so I sanded it and make it shine.
I thought that maybe giving it a 12v jolt will start it and did that.
Then shiny and with a jolt of 12v Hanged again on a string outside on the sun.

A neighbor came by to ask me for some community work and began to crack jokes about me playing with the device.

I ask him to watch carefully for the explained efect to see if he could see it and he could not.

Question:
What am I doing wrong?

Jesus

PS
I am still building an aluminum variable capacitor. It seems that the aluminum I could get is very difficult to cut and shape as desired.

If anyobody wants to replicate this Variable capacitor I posted the pdf here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=437
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 04:38:32 PM
Hey sparky did you send me a email
i just got a email no words you know I really want to
give this to you and rose but really you know who deserves it
is dave I would like dave to see what he actually
did if thats ok with everyone ive had this done for a few months
dave started this thread and he deserves the key
unless someone post it which i hope you dont
post it with the lines in the structure i give you
but you can spin that star of 12 to center in the
6 the edge of the circles should be between the point on outside ring
thats correct
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 01, 2010, 05:41:16 PM
@ Jesus

it will not work unless there is a magnetic current flowing through the device.
You need to be sure this happens before attempting to make an observation. there are multiple effects going on here, when its "on", you will know.

If you are not familiar with this concept, i will make my best attempt to describe it and do so (hopefully) without befouling Ed's ideas....

essentially you have a loop of non-magnetized, ferromagnetic metal. (ceramics may be possible, ihavent tried)
at one end of this loop, you place a coil, or two coils,
i have seen it done with as many as 4.

Ed shows this using two coils on a "U"-shaped bar
with a "keeper" bar placed across the gap

Dave shows this with two coils on a barrell-ring type thing

You can see the effect when its "on" in both demonstrations, because in a) the keeper stays magnetically connected.  and in b) the bareel-ring, which is "springy" stays closed.

in BOTH examples,
when you break the magnetic current
you get an electrical pulse out the coils. this has been shown on meters, and to light LEDs.

You need to understand what the magnetic current is, and make sure that it is flowing through the ring.

Thats step 1.
and should/must preceed any experimentation.

Hope that helps..



Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 01, 2010, 05:47:56 PM
@ Cletus

i sent you an empty msg, so you would have my address.
i thought you were asking me for it
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 01, 2010, 06:02:12 PM
Hello anyone else notice missing replies since yesterday, Rosemary's good nite comments are gone as are other replies. 
Edited     I am wrong (again lol)  was Roseys MOSFET heater I posted in not here, her comments are not missing.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 06:21:08 PM
I wanted to verify it was your email
not someone else
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 01, 2010, 06:38:48 PM
jesus!...do not worry, the effect is there, it is very subtle....if you relax your eyes or use your peripheral vision to first notice the effect....your device works, i had a few persons verify the effect before i sent it!....also look in the middle of the device...i am talking to a lot of people who can and have seen this effect to get their ideas on what to look for or do to see it easier.....and smokey, your input is priceless, believe that!...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 06:47:42 PM
David please email me
ch@helpuflip.com
so i can send you the key
when and if these mib let me out court
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 01, 2010, 08:55:54 PM
Thank you @smoky2
Thank you @lambright

I will take a break away of all my experiments and relax.
When I start again I will have a renewed patience.

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 01, 2010, 09:38:09 PM
Sqiunt hard cross your eyes a bit
moisture helps if you have contacts
that may interfere or help not shure
definatly the when your tired its easier
something to do with how eyes work
against a white wall I can cross my eyes a bit
and see the energy between my fingers
but whats crazy is the energy gaps at firsts
then it apears your fingers are touching
but there not but the energy halos make the same color to your eyes as the frequency of the skin so the skin apears to be touching before
you ever feel your fingers meet now thats weird
so the energy frequency displays color to the eyes
that there is skin between the fingers but there not touching
this has something to do with the invisible philidelphia
matching the frequecy of the air or water
making it apear invisible to the eye
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on September 02, 2010, 12:32:59 AM
    Dear Internet,

       Thankyou for presenting me with this award.  Its about time.  Well I cant say that because time is relative.  So your time doesnt appear to be moving as fast as my time and the internet resides in virtual time  and time keeps on slipping into the future wherever the future resides so I can see that Im outta time and will now exit this post as soon as possible but soon has to do with time because it is an anticipated event that resides in our imaginations so Ill just stop typing and hit the post button.  Thanks again I will wear my merit badge wherever I go and go as fast as I can so that I can make some time. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 02, 2010, 01:22:12 AM
The maker of time gave sparks a key
you the ryme was good times

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9clzirICWNA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 02, 2010, 02:18:01 AM
Hi Cletus,

I watched your video...

You can download without cost a program called the GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) to make bitmap graphical representations of your ideas here:  http://www.gimp.org/
Take your time when you make your graphics, to make sure you are able to make the points you want to make as clearly as possible so others, particularly those for whom english is not a first language, can easily understand what you are trying to communicate.

Its a shame that you are being hassled by the state;  nobody deserves that.  Oh, and BTW... that soda is awful for you!

Cheers,
Twinbeard


The maker of time gave sparks a key
you the ryme was good times

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9clzirICWNA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 02, 2010, 03:52:59 AM
That soda was a gift a whole dam stack
about 6 feet do you know why
kill your enemys with kindness im no idiot
plus i dont drink diet but it has a powder on top of
each can and some are actually
not pressurised But i used it for the demo
well i wont go into the soda debate
but i did the brain repolorization
it should be brown sugar not white whiye is a crystal
and gets stuck like salt opiates sugar
they all crystalize in the brain and
dehydration causes heart attacks
the crystal formes a plug artery bayer is -ph desloves crystal
+ph saves lives
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 02, 2010, 06:25:34 AM
hi jesus......just a thought....try holding a small neo magnet about 20-30mm from the device...reverse the magnet till you feel a slight repelling between the two.....observe while you are feeling that...try and keep the magnet pushing against the rings field......or try using a piece of quartz crystal near the device.....this also seems to help....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 02, 2010, 07:27:04 AM
These new links about pulsing liquid metals were great.   Silver had 6 pointed object and gold 7 pointed.  Can we assume that each atom has it's own matrix, lattice or what ever it may be called? 

Also I searched tree structures a bit and found a lot of references to "The Tree of Life" and found this one has a pyramid at the bottom.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 02, 2010, 07:34:43 AM
Dave you mention crystals do you know how to reverse a hutchesion
crystal instid of transmitting the frequency
remove the frequency im asking because this is like the key to
using free energy removing stored frequency
so i can radiate rock i can send radio signals and receive those
but why cant i remove frequency from
something say lead its stated if you remove
energy from lead it turns to gold
now i dont think its lead but i do think
this is the key the removal of the -+
from the ring or structure of anything
has to be reverse of hutchesion
crystal with the formula if king midas was serinated
10 days with sound then was he charge with energy or if double the harmonic is twice the power can a lower harmonic remove
power leaving him with the harmonic frequency to turn
everything to gold i know how and why the water fixed it when he washed in the river but why the ten days why the sound
sound hutchesion crystals octaves are the key
must be how many circles till we get to
gold remove a octave must remove a circle the body
must be a ultimate battery dam brain polorization
polorization of samsons hair -ph+ph
like drugs testing
walking on water wheres the answer
serioisly i have it i just dont see it
one thing does everything in the universe
ill ask God again but hes probly just going tell me im to stupid to get it.
Sorry off topic maybee some one has the answer 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 02, 2010, 07:39:16 AM
I found (more attachments) just now so I want to post a few more and also have a question.  If all matter has counter parts ( I hope this makes sense ) does the base 10 number system have to account of dual pairs of each numbers?  And if so is zero a duality also?  If it does not have a pair or ANY matter at all then maybe it can accumulate and not be attracted to either positive or negative.  The "glimmer" may be and accumulation of these neutral voids, which would seem to slow light passing thru it.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 02, 2010, 07:49:50 AM
I found (more attachments) just now so I want to post a few more and also have a question.  If all matter has counter parts ( I hope this makes sense ) does the base 10 number system have to account of dual pairs of each numbers?  And if so is zero a duality also?  If it does not have a pair or ANY matter at all then maybe it can accumulate and not me attracted to either positive or negative.  The "glimmer" may be and accumulation of these neutral voids, which would seem to slow light passing thru it.

Hi Hope

I wonder if we have plus/minus and neutral. But neutral is the result of plus/minus?  Maybe?  Something like that anyway.

I think that light moves through a magnetic field in a straight line.  But when the magnetic field itself is disparate or disjointed or disconnected due to multiple variations in its structure - then light can no longer find that straight line.  And by forming those disconnected fields inside Dave's rig - a complete circle - then light entering the rig gets disconnected from the 'straight path' and finds it's exit in a variable path.  I just wish I could find that glimmer off more symmetrical arrangements that I can somehow get to prove this.  But the glimmer seems to require those asymmetrical shapes that Dave uses - those 'open ended' pipes. 

Anyway - that's what I think may be happening. 

Kindest regards,
Rosie

ADDED Btw.  What interests me most is this.  We KNOW that gravity bends light.  But apart from that NOTHING bends light.  If Dave is bending light with a magnetic field - then perhaps gravity and magnetism are the same thing.  It's something that Einstein explored and then ditched.  Why Dave's rig is so exciting is that - if this is the root cause of bending light - then it shows up gravity in a new perspective - a new LIGHT.  LOL

Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 02, 2010, 08:14:56 AM
And guys, Jesus, all - just a small point.  Try and hang various types of material on a cotton thread over your rigs - those that have them.  I think you may find a curious 'magnetic' type response in just about everything that you put there.  Certainly that's been my experience off my modified versions of the rig.

In this result I see a direct correspondence to Hutchinson effect.  So.  There it is again.  It seems that if we are disturbing the natural justification of magnetic fields - inside material - and if this is then inducing an inappropriate response from the material - then that speaks to some kind of hidden magnetic field inside that material.  If the field was inside the atoms then I suspect that the atoms themselves would somehow become changed - but they don't.  Therefore, perhaps it's outside the atomic structure but is nonetheless able to vary the typical atomic or material response required by a smooth gravity field. 

It's a dark mystery guys - maybe dark matter?  I think so anyway.

Regards
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 02, 2010, 09:16:46 AM
Rose can you try to type this where
others can understand
the light goes in the straight line down the middle
rose but see the bottom triangle in red
it goes to the second triangle above it but then prism
to the second triangle to those 5 lines
that five bounces in the star bending
between the six point but the thir triangle refocus them
to the fourth but when it reaches the fourth the light is still
there but its now -+ 120 positive neutral
not ++ 220 its the same amount of light
because the light is in the middle
the best i can define this rose is a flourescent
tube but i dont really know how those work
but i think theres a flat plate on each end
the light bounces and then another flat plate
the energy and polarrity of how it flourescents work im nit shure
thats my best explination guys we have the answer comunicating it is not my specialty maybey rose can help with this
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 02, 2010, 09:23:34 AM
I think you've done a good job of explaining this yourself Cletus.  No need to improve on it.  I get it that you're showing the variations in the path that light would take in a varied magnetic field.

I think fluorescent lighting is best explained as a chemical interaction.  But I'm no expert Cletus.  I've been hard pressed to get my head around even the simple chemical interactions in your average lead acid battery.  We'd need a chemist on board to give an explanation here.  Perhaps Fritz?

Kindest as ever,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 02, 2010, 09:28:39 AM
I was telling dave your looking for somethhing
considered unknown but when whoever the consppiracy
crystal showed up from my hacked text it has a feather
attached i realized after carefull
examination of what exactly the would send the feather
its a static detetor finds energy you cant measure
i knoticed when i build energy i couldnt always read it with metter but i could
measure it with the feather just a tip
becarefull the static can due things you wouldnt dream of
like turn your arm into a ballon try not to hold a magnifyer
wash your arms good with water keeps radiation low
i also noticed if you gave a bad nerve like me
in my back that if one side of the body has more energy
then the other that nerve really hurts
jesus washed the feet its crossing both sides of the energy of the body
me im always messed up but thats cause one legs cut off the nerves
all screwed up got solve how that starfish regrows its limbs
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 02, 2010, 09:36:24 AM
Cletus, I'm so sorry you have pain.  I think life's already hard.  To deal with actual physical pain as well?  That's too much.  I'll say prayers for you Cletus.  I'm not sure they get very far.  But at least it's a measure of some good will and that definitely helps. 

Kindest regards,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 02, 2010, 09:39:51 AM
Im stuck on lead to its my problem in this video
why lead
i made a salt battery had 12 volts from a antenna i thought i busted the wireless energy i had it so simple just wires straight to the
salt from the cardboard cylinders a little water
had good voktage took it all outside to show everyone my great discovery
never worked again no joke everything always works like that
for me like today i levitated the whole
plastic in this video but dont know how
but my cousin watched it levitate was weird but doing it twice
maybee one day Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehgshGOfKgI&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Sent from my iPhone
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 02, 2010, 09:53:27 AM
Would it stand to reason that if the PMH can magnetize non ferrous then it possibly magnetize light as well? Between any two different poles there would seem to me to exist a barrier or neutral, zero area even when a magnet is barred the barrier is still there but only very close or what do you all think? Else there would be no pole differences?? So Rosemary your exactly correct when you said NOTHING else would.   Neutral fields are so strong they even can separate poles when they are very thin.  Correct? Now that may be another key.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 02, 2010, 10:48:48 AM
Thank you all for discovering that Cletus wasn't just someone using a "story writer" and cutting and paste'in our responses to generate more context.   His number of posts alarmed me.   I did watch your recent youtube Cletus,  glad you stayed.  I thought you were of topic because it was so different.  But as may be this science is DIFFERENT too.
Thank you, for I also re-read your replys and have be helped as well.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 02, 2010, 10:52:17 AM
Thank you all for discovering that Cletus wasn't just someone using a "story writer" and cutting and paste'in our responses to generate more context.   His number of posts alarmed me.   I did watch your recent youtube Cletus,  glad you stayed.  I thought you were of topic because it was so different.  But as may be this science is DIFFERENT too.
Thank you, for I also re-read your replys and have be helped as well.

 ;D
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 02, 2010, 12:00:03 PM
I am still awake, and have one possible use for Lambrite Focus, if we placed this core (made small ones ) around the back side of a magnet, then when a stator was passing the zero focus would possibly negate the back attraction.  If only it were that easy.   

UPDATE:  The pipe ring locked when we used 12 gauge wire and car battery  (Ours is about 17 inches inner circumference ) We placed a small magnet in center hub  and placed suspended toroidal shaped magnet on nylon lite thread.  When we energized the coil (13 turns)  the suspended magnet spun like a bat out of hades, then we unlocked the ring and reverse the coil charge, it spun the other way at what looked to be the same speed.
After a long gyration period (3-5 mins) it came to rest but then we discovered the small magnet below was repelling the small magnet above and it made it off center a bit when at rest....   which seemed to vibrate at any sound or wind outside.

Night All!
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 02, 2010, 12:21:42 PM
hi jesus......just a thought....try holding a small neo magnet about 20-30mm from the device...reverse the magnet till you feel a slight repelling between the two.....observe while you are feeling that...try and keep the magnet pushing against the rings field......or try using a piece of quartz crystal near the device.....this also seems to help....david

I holded a magnet as you said, but when I turn it around it does not repel, it also attracts the ring.
Maybe I damaged the device when I gave it a 12v strike.

Specifically I took both coil ends and placed one on the negative and holded it there, then I touched the other end to the positive.  A blue spark formed and that was it.

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 02, 2010, 02:08:14 PM
I holded a magnet as you said, but when I turn it around it does not repel, it also attracts the ring.
Maybe I damaged the device when I gave it a 12v strike.

Specifically I took both coil ends and placed one on the negative and holded it there, then I touched the other end to the positive.  A blue spark formed and that was it.

Jesus

@ Jesus
             
  Watch these two videos. and become familiar with this concept
im not sure what this thing looks like what he sent you
but they all work in the same way.
its a magnetic "loop".

first one is random PMH from YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHkcJ0rCIXQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHkcJ0rCIXQ)



This is Dave's.

http://www.youtube.com/user/potatoheadist#p/f/10/S3ufPsu6AJU (http://www.youtube.com/user/potatoheadist#p/f/10/S3ufPsu6AJU)

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 02, 2010, 05:45:27 PM
Hope you are the closets
the reason is stick to the 12
or go 1.2 would be the exact center
sorry i do so much every day im like
the supper computer one pop up sguts me down
data storage is limited,
ok 1.2 is the center
2 =+
.=nuetral
1= - but negativs is not negative
       It one so nuetral is not nuetral
       Its 3 in 1
2+1=3
2-1=1 if your not religious
think of it this way the smartest men in
the world translated the bible they added so much
science to it its insane just no one understands
there all stuck in doctrin debates davinci
used the numbers for his code
because numbers dont change in translation.
Anyways where was i undertanding
your dc going to your i notciced i can discharge a rock
by spin from a antenna others noticed the plate above
magnets he deserves credit i dont know his name
he was on antigravity youtube before i got banned
but i we made a ac battery we would
be spinning the flywheel and storing energy in a spring
but spring maxes out pretty fast but it would spin back and make ac
energy again now if you think about this string it
is like a spring but can hold many winds
or twist this is the key to the battery
if we can store the energy in say daves device
and or a rock and some how develop a theory in electricity that
over lays energy like twisting that string
it can charge discharge magnets hold energy a long time
i made a electromagnetic feild from
the antenna and salt wiped everything
including my nice 60,000 dollar prosteic computer
chip i did have insurance well thats a different topic these are the pop ups that shut the computer down.
My mood swings are determined a lot by pain
too if its been a long day I can be irritable expecialy when
something gets lost like how i lifted that cup
or the 12 salt battery or overlimit contiual ac
or the tuning or the light bulb frequency i had perfect
all these once lost are like throwing the ball from half court
watching it go in then trying to tell your friends they say ya right do it again
well maybee if i throw the ball enough times but its like hitting the loto
if i can recreate it to demonstrate
some i do figure out how but your
string phenomenom is not just a string
ok I charged a light bulb with a magnifer
when i created feild a and feild b
from the photovalic effect that wapred the light bulb
but before i warped the light bulb I did mv
testing to prove it there was energy from the
light to the feilds on the bulb i knoticed energy go up
as heat energy go down as it cooled but a max effect or amount of change
before it stoped i think it has to do with the
amount the bulb can store heres a link to the warping the light bulb video its kinda shity feel free to recreate it and put it back out better
my video skills suck
i dont know why this doesnt get huge attention
its like one the biggest breakthru in science
direct drive propulsion and its not just light its frequency
 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 02, 2010, 05:51:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBQC1V59Cy4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 02, 2010, 06:14:18 PM
@smoky2

I saw the videos.
I took the device (that it is something completeley different from both videos) placed a compass in the middle as on the @lambright video and gave it a 12v volt spark repeately until the compass changed position.

I tied it on a string as the graphic shows and the energy can be seen if it is at an angle with the window and you are about three paces from it.
If you get closer, you cant see anything but if you place the compass under the device, the compass needle begins to vibrate up and down.

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 02, 2010, 07:45:14 PM
Wow that was a very good picture it explains it in simple terms
the light spins the string till it maxes out the strings ability to spin
then one of two things can happen either your stuck in so called
neutral stored energy you can reverse the spin by cutting the light
or you can use the free energy at the end of the string and it will continue to spin now how many winds in the string before you use it depends on your torque now supper conductors or insulators hold energy longer
like fiberglass i noticed fiberglass is made of string but some how that fiberlass stores energy to discharge to the black light so it absorbes energy say static and discharges it when theres no light no window
its like the string in some way maxes out during the day carries you thru the night but light is frequency I moved that light bulb in the shade
in the tub and also using a rodin type coil moved the black light
also with like those glow tubes i think i posted that here
already
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 02, 2010, 08:29:59 PM
this is mylatest post at EF....................... hi everyone...
jet, did your mail come?...jesus at OU was having a hard time seeing the radiation, but he did start to see it, finally!..do not be discouraged if you do not see it right away....remember what bruce said....very very subtle.....this is a little frustrating for me but like i said before, if this were easy to see/detect, it would have been discovered long ago....so far i have not seen any good photos of this effect, only good descriptions,fortunately from Tesla and other researchers, that lends a little credibility to what i am describing and trying to capture with imaging devices....these distorted "fields" around my devices, seem to be present around high energy/high magnetic fields and seem to be variable...i would still like to use some type of FLIR imager, to see if that might capture it better....these effects are real...the visual/gravitational anomalies are not imagined....similar effects have been seen/documented by some of the biggest names in this field...i know we are getting close...elusive? HA! frustrating? double HA!but i know what i have seen/felt...i have shown my devices to over 50 individuals who verify my findings....this is all very new to me...i am trying my best to help others to experience what i have, so that other researchers may find the root of these effects....how does one go about describing something they have never seen before?....if it were easy, i would not talking about it right now, it would already be old news......thanks for your help, even taking the time to read these threads, helps...i am not really that smart, i never went to college, i do not hold any degrees, i got my GED while in prison!....this i do know, i have seen/rediscovered something important....i have created it without the high voltage/magnetism that is normally associated with these distortions/anomalies....these effects are very subtle right now but most of what i am doing is still very crude, but i am moving forward in my progress.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 02, 2010, 09:23:07 PM
Dave in science you either start in prison or end in prision
the reason is mistakes cost a lot of
people harm mistakes are from unknown
gernoble haiti haarp
your work is leading the way to the future
as I have found all things go back to earth
when you stand in the forrest theres no
difference between a degree from harvard and
a ged everything comes from the forest
evertything built is amazing from
the trees the dirt the plants now did
all these go to college no i have college
i have high awards but i can tell you that
a lot of what i was taught got in my way
of understanding the basics even electricity
thru a wire vs around it in jail over
my eartg battery i figured out the gravity demonstration
im working on improving that i stuck
between whats more important
free energy or gravity or is free energy gravity
is the joe cell free power the car because its antigravity
is it because he taping the gravity
theres a link between free energy and gravity
im im over my head frustrated how do we link wireless energy to the gravity
ice does not float with wires
its stored energy but its colder then the water
but heat rises that defies logic
im sorry how does oxygen overcome the temperature
ice is denser then water so its more compact
the water the key to the ice is the key to
everything why tesla shattered the glacier
its the key the ice caps on the poles sorry if im off subject i think
its the answer the radiant waves of the ice
its a crystal its creating its own energy
some how that makes it float that overcones the temperature
change when you create ice its removing energy
or is it polorising the crystals oxygen is trapped on the botom layer the
penguins live off the oxygen using the ubderwater cameras
they proved they make dips in the ice to gatther the air bubles
to give them ability to breath under ice for a long time
those air bubles float the ice where is the hydrogen in ice
if water is h2o you condense the h20 to what
if you expand it your seperating hydrogen and oxygen
can the ice reverse the hutchesion crystal
but taking the energy from the crystal
to the ice maybee you dont know maybee you know
one part please email me ch@helpuflip.com
if i can understand the ice I think I can put
everything together ill reasearch it
and see also i need help with light bulb gas pressure
to understand the radiant energy is absorbed into the gas
the amount of gas pressure or vacume
intereferes or accletates the light - energy transfer
wow this is pretty indebt sorry I know theres like 1 or two people that can help me. 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 02, 2010, 09:28:44 PM
jesus, thank you!.....could you describe what you see?....and smokey2, i would like to copy your version of the device...it seems to have a good output of this radiation...thanks everyone for your help....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 02, 2010, 11:11:27 PM
the compass needle begins to vibrate up and down.


@ Jesus,

thank you. that's the confirmation i was looking for.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 02, 2010, 11:16:01 PM
jesus, thank you!.....could you describe what you see?....and smokey2, i would like to copy your version of the device...it seems to have a good output of this radiation...thanks everyone for your help....david

Dave,
        the one i made out of sheetmetal,
was more like ED's  "V's"
but tall like your tubes. mostly accidental, i tried to bend them round, but they are just curved-V's. But i think they serve the same purpose, magnetically speaking.

im excited with what jesus said about the needle.
i need to hurry up and finish this new one im making....

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: IotaYodi on September 03, 2010, 12:14:22 AM
Out of curiosity has any one tried to see it with a mirror?
The part I find astounding is the laser light and feeling the pulse. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 03, 2010, 12:33:11 AM
Im most curious about a one way mirror set up in the shape so
energy goes in but not out reflecting
itself specificalt the 5 star patter or a 5 star pattern
with wood top and bottom
with a light through the mirror basicaly prisming the light
neverending back to itself that would be a really interesting
exoeriment where and how the energy would go
line up and what the power level would become
like mutiplying yourself in the mirror spliting your image
can herz be multiplied the same ?
I have a lot of questions sorry
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: void109 on September 03, 2010, 01:32:19 AM
ice does not float with wires
its stored energy but its colder then the water
but heat rises that defies logic
im sorry how does oxygen overcome the temperature
ice is denser then water so its more compact
the water the key to the ice is the key to
everything why tesla shattered the glacier

Water becomes less dense when it freezes, that is why it floats.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Properties_of_water
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 03, 2010, 03:08:27 AM
i am so happy!!...my dad finally saw the glimmer!...i knew he would, eventually but today HE SAW IT!!!...i am OK now...so i must get these devices ready to mail....rose my friend, you are next.......he saw it....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 03, 2010, 04:15:30 AM
@ Jesus

We should look more into this "vibration".

if we can figure out which direction the motion is, then put a coil perpendicular to generate electricity.

"Zero Point Module"

----------------------------------------
i keep thinking of crystals, to resonate with the ring.....
like the ones SuperMan had,  long, with diamond-ends, perfect crystaline structure.

tuned perfectly for the device, so they sing in chorus.


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 03, 2010, 04:28:12 AM
Im so happy for you i wish my dad would take five minutes to
see my stuff every one my family
just dont care i just did gravity and antigravity
got it to lift and drop with the power switch on and off
if the the ion propulsion
tesla tower light bulb turbins it can basicaly do anything
no one gives a shit im banned from antigravity
my internets shut off i guess the neighbors
no longer works so i cant even share it with a couple people who do
watch my videos on youtube i guess ill go to bed
you know why tesla tower was not done
he was going to put the optics in each
level basicaly all the magnifyer glass on top
would be the crystal the optics would be seperated by the
gases like flourescent and changing optics changes frequency it basicaly would charged earth with magnification
and seperating the frequency from uvc
it was not going to be wireless it was going to be earth
earth is a polished crystal he was just tunning it
to operate at the power level we needed 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: dllabarre on September 03, 2010, 04:55:23 AM
hi everyone...jesus, your device might come today!.....jetijs, yours wii be there soon...guys, when you get the device, dont expect it to shoot green sparks, lol....just look at it, i have found if there more people looking at the device, the ones who see it right off can help by their description of what they see....hold it up, turn it slowly, do not try too hard, kindof let yuor eyes relax....the words people are using to describe this....looks like heat, a bubble or film, and like a lens...take your time, it will manifest...also my newest device!!...i made the ferro fluid core device using a clear vinyl tube, about 2" diameter.... the tube is 1/4" vinyl, coupled with a short piece of just larger tube....i filled the tube with ferro fluid, not very easy, wear gloves, it was messy but worth it....i could not get all the air out, i left a 1mm bubble in it...i do not think is affects the orbital path....20 or 30 wraps of copper wire and energized first one way, then flip the battery and do it again.....very quick, so that the wires do not get hot.....this device really does the lens thing good...is is just as smokey2 said, you gotta see it for yourself.....david

Hi

I'd like to get one of these devices.
What do I have to do or where do I go to get one?

Thanks
DonL
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 03, 2010, 06:33:03 AM
Would it stand to reason that if the PMH can magnetize non ferrous then it possibly magnetize light as well? Between any two different poles there would seem to me to exist a barrier or neutral, zero area even when a magnet is barred the barrier is still there but only very close or what do you all think? Else there would be no pole differences?? So Rosemary your exactly correct when you said NOTHING else would.   Neutral fields are so strong they even can separate poles when they are very thin.  Correct? Now that may be another key.

Golly Hope - these are difficult questions.  The thing about photons is that they are classically considered to be neutral - having no particular justification.  But it also seems that our visibility range is restricted to precisely that frequency that results from an interaction of that photon with physical material.  It then defines that material and 'shows up' its colour.  But I don't think there's that much known about the particle itself.  This, because it has no 'rest state'.  And it's hard to track light speed with our eyes.  Especially mine.  LOL.

So.  Back to your question.  I don't think that photons can be 'magnetised' in the sense that one can magnetise a coil, or physical material.  But what I do suggest is this.  We know that our earth has a magnetic field and, by and large, it's smooth.  Sort of consistent with what is described as 'Faraday's Lines of Force'.  But the reason I think we can detect this force is PRECISELY because we only see one half of that orbit.  We know of the force from the North Pole to the South Pole.  We have NO idea what goes on when it disappears back into the earth to complete its orbit - IF that's what it's doing.  In effect everything on earth has only EVER known one half of that orbit - again - IF indeed it's orbiting.  It's sort of like a 'voltage imbalance'.  It can be measured and detected.  What I'm trying to point to is that if we could experience the 'hidden half' of the orbit - inside the field - then we would have some considerable difficulty in distinguishing a north pole from a south.  But we also know that the vacuum of space has NO evident north or south justification or poles or charge differences. 

So.  I'm proposing that the vacuum of space is just a great big magnetic torus.  A kind of moving scaffold.  But we DON'T see a distinct North  or  South pole or any justification.  This is because, if this great big magnetic field was there - and provided it was shaped like a torus which is just a really smooth and perfect magnetic field - then we would never know it was there and we would never be able to isolate any part of it as having any particular 'charge'.  If you put your probes anywhere inside the vacuum of space there would not ZERO volts.  NO charge.  And NO north/south.  This because every part of the field would be connected to every other part.  Unlike the fields of the earth one half of the orbit is NOT isolated from the other other half. 

Now.  What I think happens is this.  Photons are able to move through those vast fields of space at light speed and by interacting with those fields.  The fields are smooth - the photon's follow the fields - therefore they 'find' the straight line in those fields and they forge their path through space.  The same when it get's to our earth's fields.  But when it hits Dave's rig - then these same magnetic fields are so crooked and distorted - that they simply can't find that straight path.  So for a brief moment they 'glimmer' and then move on.  And it's that Lambright Glimmer that we're seeing in his videos and - for those who have been privileged to see this - directly off his rig.

Which is my take.  Hope that's understandable.

Kindest as ever,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 03, 2010, 08:17:55 AM
rose...sorry about the delay....i will fill the devices with oxide after this post, and mail them tomorrow....and don l......i dont want to make/sell these devices for money, i encourage everyone to build themselves, so you know exactly what it is, and the hands-on is just good!..but heres the thing...i ran out of tubing, so if you can wait a bit, i will build you one...will you show it to as many people as are interested?...and cletus, i have a device with your name on it !!i must say your brilliance shadows me, i think i said that right, anyway, you are awesome!...i will build you one when i get my next bit of tubing........thank you all...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 03, 2010, 09:03:39 AM
rose...sorry about the delay....i will fill the devices with oxide after this post, and mail them tomorrow....and don l......i dont want to make/sell these devices for money, i encourage everyone to build themselves, so you know exactly what it is, and the hands-on is just good!..but heres the thing...i ran out of tubing, so if you can wait a bit, i will build you one...will you show it to as many people as are interested?...and cletus, i have a device with your name on it !!i must say your brilliance shadows me, i think i said that right, anyway, you are awesome!...i will build you one when i get my next bit of tubing........thank you all...david


Many thanks Dave.  I suspect these donations of yours are impoverishing you.  They're very much appreciated - I'm sure.  And this, more than anything speaks to your commitment in showing this effect.  It's you that's awesome David.  And I'm sure we all realise this.

Kindest regards,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on September 03, 2010, 10:10:42 AM
    For some reason this device brings to mind the aharanov-bohm effect.  I may be mistaken but it is an example of the condition of space effecting the motion of wavepackets photons whatever.  Gravity bends light.   Each point in space at any given time exhibits some degree of gravity.  That same point in space also at any given time exhibits some degree of radiance.  The two forces are the only two forces.  All the rest of the weak neuclear and strong neuclear and electromagnetic forces are derived from these essential forces.  They are truely essential for if only one of them existed the ism would be the aint.  How long would a Universe exist that was totally radiant.  How long would a Universe exist that was totally attractive.   And here we are little inertia beings pretty mutch stuck in the middle between two clashing forces.  The forces of light and dark.  The yid the yang.  Chaos order. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: dllabarre on September 03, 2010, 03:11:12 PM
and don l......i dont want to make/sell these devices for money, i encourage everyone to build themselves, so you know exactly what it is, and the hands-on is just good!..but heres the thing...i ran out of tubing, so if you can wait a bit, i will build you one...will you show it to as many people as are interested?..........thank you all...david

I will definitely show it to everyone I can.
This is amazing.
Thank you
DonL
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: void109 on September 03, 2010, 06:32:10 PM
While following this thread, I took a ring of steel, and wrapped three windings of coil on it at three locations.  I was just suspect that the ring didnt have to necessarilly be made of seperated or disjointed pieces.

I pulsed it from a 12v battery, shorting it against the coils in parallel.  I also just left it connected for durations up to 1s.  I havent been able to see any visual effect, or any sensory phenomenon holding objects near it.

I did find that if I hang it from a string with no torsion on it, it will accelerate up until the string has enough counter torsion, then unwind until resting, with the string having remnant torsion on it (you can see the string twist when I lift the ring at the end), so it appears to be prone to spin when hanging.  Have to test this many more times with several variations to be sure.  Here's the boring video of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yilx2r_9KAg

I actually live in Washington, and was thinking about driving down to see your device David. :)  I have an HD camera that can record at 1080p, and thought I might be able to capture what you're seeing on video.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: void109 on September 03, 2010, 06:39:28 PM
Almost forgot, I also took 5 1" diameter ferrite cores and cut them in half with a diamond wheel.  I arranged the remaining 10 half circles in the typical arrangement, wrapped coil around one of them and pulsed it to see if I could get it to lock.

No dice, they would forcefully join during the pulse, but completely released afterward every time.

I also made a PMH with a U shaped threaded bolt from home depot, and put a 0.5" x 4" steel bar across it and locked it.  Then placed it in water as I've seen others do and froze it.  I didn't see any anomalies as others had.  The PMH effect was there to be sure.

Do you think it is just the case that when we pulse the PMH it is aligning all of the atomic dipoles, and once oriented, they hold each other in place?  Then when you quickly remove the bar, it is just the dipoles 'relaxing', or spinning to a rest orientation, and its this relaxation that is inducing current in a pickup coil?  While this wouldn't explain any of the effects being discussed here, in this description there isnt anything 'flowing' around the flux path, it would just be the dipoles locked in place.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 03, 2010, 06:58:48 PM
I have been having problems with the elctricity service and the internet.
The electricity goes out on the block and when it comes back I have troubles getting on the internet.

jesus, thank you!.....could you describe what you see?....and smokey2, i would like to copy your version of the device...it seems to have a good output of this radiation...thanks everyone for your help....david

I see a very light film like the one that is made from soap water on a ring. But if I get closer to the device, it dissappear.

@ Jesus,

thank you. that's the confirmation i was looking for.

The vibration stops when the needle is aligned with the ring magnetic field.


Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 03, 2010, 08:55:02 PM
tookferrite cores and cut them in half with a diamond wheel.  I arranged the remaining 10 half circles in the typical arrangement, wrapped coil around one of them and pulsed it to see if I could get it to lock.
No dice, they would forcefully join during the pulse, but completely released afterward every time.

These cores are made with a filler-material. the material which induces a field is seperated by "glue" basically.. i dont think they will work for what we are trying to do.

Quote
I also made a PMH with a U shaped threaded bolt from home depot, and put a 0.5" x 4" steel bar across it and locked it.  Then placed it in water as I've seen others do and froze it.  I didn't see any anomalies as others had.  The PMH effect was there to be sure.
screw pieces down onto the bolt theads
     (may have to redo the wires)
But you can modify the normal PMH into what Dave is doing.
like "wings" on the U-Bolt.

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Do you think it is just the case that when we pulse the PMH it is aligning all of the atomic dipoles, and once oriented, they hold each other in place?  Then when you quickly remove the bar, it is just the dipoles 'relaxing', or spinning to a rest orientation, and its this relaxation that is inducing current in a pickup coil?  While this wouldn't explain any of the effects being discussed here, in this description there isnt anything 'flowing' around the flux path, it would just be the dipoles locked in place.

Yes and no,.  When you say "locking the di-poles", what you are really talking about is orienting the (average) spin of the electron in a vector which produces the N and S dipole-field in a constant direction.
"polarizing" the metal.   the same thing that happens when you stick a magnet onto it. sort of...
With a strong magnet touching the metal, its the field from the magnet that is dispursed through the material.

With what WE are doing,. its the field from the material itself, resonating throughout it, in a magnetic vectoral path.
thats why i drew those pictures a few pages back, to show the "apparent" motion of the curent, but its really just staying in one place. like the poeple doing "the wave" in a stadium.

You are right about the relaxation producing the "pick-up" coil response. that's a portion remaining from the input power, after all losses. Which is irrespective of Dave's effect.

However,. since the metal is being magnetically induced, constantly... it amplifies the atomic signal, times x # of atoms.

Theres really only two basic differences between this thing here, and lets say...  Plutonium-238
1) this resonates at a MUCH lower frequency.
and 2) We can turn this OFF and ON.

Mathematically the effects are identicle.


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 03, 2010, 09:05:32 PM
void...i never was able to get a lock on the u shaped ferrite unless i used a steel keeper[i did make a video]...the ferro fluid core works well but what i was planning was a glass torus, hollow, filled with FF, and wrapped with a rodin coil.....a U shaped steel with the ends 1/4" apart, the ends put into the FF and energized, the FF completes the circle and will stay there when it is removed from the FF....if that makes any sense.....as we all know by now, these effects are not very easy to image, let alone see it, but they ARE there!....anyway, i must go to the post office for a minute, but i will be back soon....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 03, 2010, 09:16:23 PM
Wow ok guys and girls we have odviously got
more brains on one thread then probly anywhere
but please spare us all the science theories
and cut the words to basics magnetism
direction light frequency things me and dave
relate to
speed of light is variable so there so reason to bring it up
space time continum all this stuf is
like static to my brain its pointles confusing
please try to do best you can to not
clash in a science debate by using words and terms
not defined by a meaning or use its a language of nothing
apple relates to a apple
the earth power grid is a relation of the water
storage and the cuts in earth
if you have a crack in a car head
when magnitised it attracts a poweder
earth attracts water to the cracks
the river its very complicated but the river conducts
the rainbow the crack in the magnetic feild
of earth making it a perfect polished crystal like tesla said
im working on levitating the rock
for you i did levitate the first portion of my testing
of what i guess is the joe cell using aluminum and
copper wish me luck on my rock it does spin the magnets the same as your stating on the string
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 03, 2010, 10:07:29 PM
Im sorry i cant see the
name neivo soleous I know i messed that up
your power grid problems can be a couple things first check your experiments
antennas coils rocks batteries anthing you have hooked up
your possible hitting the black hole energy if you are your reversing the grid
you need to find this out quick
or your going to have a mess yoir computer
is getting interupted by the magnetic fields thats why im pretty shure its you not the grid some thing you have done created a giant magnetic feild
this is how i wiped eveything find your groubd rod
and soak the shit out of it with water
or your going to have a really big mess
and health problems once it starts funneling frequency
its radiating the rock that radiation
interferes with everything soubds to me like you have started or are in the proccess of starting that check your
wireing figure out where your frequency is coming into
and going to your ground your essentialy sending
power to the ground the ac becomes the ground
sucks for you because its not measurable but it goes backwards thru the first transformer to the second where the hf high voltage
is converted to energy to the next grid  i dont know how to do
that on a small scale im working on it those smart metters
have a computer chip inbetween the 240 volts
the problem millions if ca have is magnetic feilds interfere with those chips
like the power grid pulse solar flares do it on a massive scale 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 04, 2010, 12:11:54 AM
Can one of you chemist test this gas
for me i think its the antigravity secrete
i do not beleive its hydrogen it does not apear to be steam
and it instantaniously reversable
so what is it power to aluminum can
in water nuetral to a copper rod
in water a little bit of salt gets it bubbling
good that bubling will lift the soda can
and copper in the right structure
now im a little stuck on the rock
either i dont have enough power
or im not containing that gas now
please help i dont have eds books what did he
have as power someone said a generator
was there how many amps
can someone calculate the size wire he used
and how many amps it can transfer
im noticing two things moray
long 50 cables ed long cable
now I know the polarities i know the
energy i dont know how he harnesed it
so he was either putting in so much it doesnt
need to be harnnesed or some how
that tripod possible held the gas
was there anything like a tarp
that could go over the tripod
remember the ark the covenant was always in a tent
why? I think the vibrations of the powersupply
would shatter a building the egyptians used
a tarp in videos i saw over the rocks
im pretty shure this gas just hits that tripod and then goes below the rock
but what is the gas how does it boil with no measurable heat exchange
please email me ch@helpuflip.com
i need more power or harness the gas
or think harder one or the other or all
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 04, 2010, 12:24:04 AM
Almost forgot, I also took 5 1" diameter ferrite cores and cut them in half with a diamond wheel.  I arranged the remaining 10 half circles in the typical arrangement, wrapped coil around one of them and pulsed it to see if I could get it to lock.

No dice, they would forcefully join during the pulse, but completely released afterward every time.

I also made a PMH with a U shaped threaded bolt from home depot, and put a 0.5" x 4" steel bar across it and locked it.  Then placed it in water as I've seen others do and froze it.  I didn't see any anomalies as others had.  The PMH effect was there to be sure.

Do you think it is just the case that when we pulse the PMH it is aligning all of the atomic dipoles, and once oriented, they hold each other in place?  Then when you quickly remove the bar, it is just the dipoles 'relaxing', or spinning to a rest orientation, and its this relaxation that is inducing current in a pickup coil?  While this wouldn't explain any of the effects being discussed here, in this description there isnt anything 'flowing' around the flux path, it would just be the dipoles locked in place.
.....void....try using some thin steel between the ferrite...make sure it is clean...i bet you can get it to lock that way ...but with the oxide, it is magnetically clean and when packed tightly, dry, into a tube, it will hold energy like a PMH...i am making a video on the oxide core devices soon!...you might need only one piece of thin steel to get your device to lock....arrange your ferrite pieces then at one junction separate the ferrite with the steel and re-energize....if you want to..........david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 04, 2010, 12:25:40 AM
Hi Cletus,

We none of us know what Ed did.  If we knew we'd be able to do the coral castle build.

Kindest regards,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 04, 2010, 12:35:06 AM
Thank you for your time all,  this is very interesting subject to me.    When gravity changes the photons (particles of all types i image too) reacts to it like a pressure.  High gravity may squeeze the photons close.  The neutral space gets changed also, since current travels both ways at the same time in what is believed to me a helix shape.  Then if we can split this helix (maybe using a small hole made using a neutral magnetic field) then we will have unbalanced particals (could it be anti-matter) which will seek to become balanced upon exiting the magnetic hole field.  This will be hard to follow   sorry.   The glimmer maybe the energy caused by the neutal squeeze balancing its self.   So this helix's circumference varies.   Which maybe a key to expanding a helix enough to cause its natural bonds to weaken.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 04, 2010, 12:43:26 AM
Thank you for your time all,  this is very interesting subject to me.    When gravity changes the photons (particles of all types i image too) reacts to it like a pressure.  High gravity may squeeze the photons close.  The neutral space gets changed also, since current travels both ways at the same time in what is believed to me a helix shape.  Then if we can split this helix (maybe using a small hole made using a neutral magnetic field) then we will have unbalanced particals (could it be anti-matter) which will seek to become balanced upon exiting the magnetic hole field.  This will be hard to follow   sorry.   The glimmer maybe the energy caused by the neutal squeeze balancing its self.   So this helix's circumference varies.   Which maybe a key to expanding a helix enough to cause its natural bonds to weaken.

Hello Hope. No-one knows what causes the Lambright Effect and I'm absolutely sure that your explanation here is as good as any.  I'm not entirely sure that I follow it - but it's good that it makes us all think.

Kindest regards,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 04, 2010, 01:12:49 AM
Guys, all,  I'm sure that Dave won't mind my going off topic but I really think I should alert you all to this AMAZING development on our forum.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9687.msg255381#new

Check it out.  Its the work of lasersaber.  It's historical stuff and is DEFINITELY of very real importance to this OU drive of ours.

Regards,
Rosemary

Better still here's a link to the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbaub2kkkpA
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 04, 2010, 01:15:28 AM
I might have spoke too soon i thinK
i got the gas bubbles coming from the rock now
howeever there small not light the aluminum
does but i put the aluminum on to polirize the rock and
get temperature going it apears now i removed the aluminum
me amp draw is the same but now thru the rock
if the rock starts picking up producing more bubble it will be produving the gas and lift like my aluminum copper
can but i dont know if its going to
build the bubbles faster or slower
but there definatly now coming from the rock itself
so i think the coral is formed from the gas bubbles escaping
one its poliorized rigt to produce the gas internaly it should contain enough of that gas to float itself im waiting paitently with my fingers crossed
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 04, 2010, 01:37:16 AM
JUST MORE THEORY: The reason the Arc was kept from the sunlight.........um   Telsa's clear capacitor lost charge on the negative plate when sunlight was focus on it.  And gained charge on the positive plate when the same light was focused on it.   Maybe........it would gain to much charge in the sunlight which would suggest the charge within was a positive force.    The opposite logic also applies. If the sunlight drained the Arc this would be odd to make something that would have to be re charged from darkness.   The Creator is lots smarter than that, my bet is on the Arc being charged by photons.   So the Arc was the first known man made solid state power collector perhaps.  And it has no moving parts (but particles are moving)  It having two parts to the outer box, poles could have been developed between the top and bottom .  The antennas on top separated with a neutral field between the top an bottom allowed a rectify effect which then could be collected in the silica/salt.  Cletus may have one built already in his salt Moray battery.  But in the bible it says they had to take off their shoes around the Arc which could mean the storage energy (the bottom)was negative in nature unless shorted back thru the collector (the top).
This seems off topic but what I am trying to do is help others unlock this knowledge by showing relationships,  which just might trigger our minds to realize a pattern which is now being overlooked.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 04, 2010, 02:25:41 AM
We have the structure of the box
and all structures some have been given it by me
yes your anttena theory is correct how we use the structure
is the problem were working from the answer
backwards trying to understand the structure
if that makes sense but we do have the answer
problem lie between the chemitry
and electricity like the moray cell nuetralizes the acid so if a chemist
did the formula for a acid type filter for the battery to remove the contaminates as they built mabey we would have a battery that could hold a lot more energy im not shure there was a lot rust in
that expensive dc marine battery i ruined pretty fast
between the aluminum and copper the aluminum built its own energy feild
on both sides of the water and it eventualy blew a hole thru the aluminum
i though it poped the breaker but I was wrong
it blew a pencles sizs hole in the aluminum
the water equaled in power so it was seperating energy even though the can the bottom was cut off so it put energy on both side
till i blew a hole im 95% shure this is why the goverments ufo
crash the instant blowing of that hoke requires it to be rewelded as seen on
aug 22 in the fresno landing i posted 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 04, 2010, 03:37:14 AM
Personal levitation feels like every cell in your body is vibrating and can get there by creating within a stream of acceptance.   Like allowing your judgement to refrain to "lovingly embrace" all thoughts till you somber off into a near dream state.  In my meditation experience I was seeing a large room with Hindu looking persons about, most were touching a 2o foot high orange glowing ball. When I touched the ball with the palms of my hands like they were doing my body vibrated all over and I floated 4-5 inches before my fear took over and I was back home and fell 4-5 inches back on the couch.   What is important about this experience was levitation wasn't what I thought it was, not a force lifting at the bottom.  It was all consuming yet I was in it and must say that when touching the glowing ball it was as if I was connected to another mind full of love and when I sensed the other mind fear overcame me and I fell.  It was as if we soul shared for a moment.  So fear separates us from this other joyous mind everyday unless we make the effort to reach it.  These things I share with you happened and I bear witness to it.   So within us is the ability to tap into greater things with out wires    self OU  LOL
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 04, 2010, 03:39:26 AM
Man rocks take a lot of energy im at about 180 degrees
when it crosses boiling point it should lift
but what is so weird is my lazer temperature
reader is measuring the temperature lower away from the rock even though
its directed to the rock there is some kind of
radiant energy chage feild between the rock and about five feet away
that it spins the magnet but also
thats about the distance of this temperature difference it goes from 140-180
depending on how far away i am from the rock
has anyone done temperature on daves device using a lazer and see if the feild distancd measured changes the reading this would actualy be the measurement of the feild but i think you need to have a high moisture content to show the temperature in the feild just a observation im getting tired all day trying to levitate this rock
from yesterdays experinents to the rock
the rock has its own characteristics
you know rock are alive they live they breath
they use and absorb moisture if you burn a rock it dies you killed it
me im animal testing beings rocks are alive
thats ok its testing on me shocked my ass good like 10 times
burned my wires in defiance told me it didnt like to much salt by
throwing my breaker like 20 times
so i gave it a bath started over its home was to big
these rocks are picky you know they only like to lay a certain
way they dont like hammers and even though i wanted to do surgury like edd i didnt have my diamond blade so this one is still in tact
but if it doesnt float soon after a whole day of pampering it
im going to destroy it
it must be a Girl needs lots of time getting ready
needs everything perfect then finaly about ten hours after you want the rock to leave the house/water it decides to either go
or just stay home after all at which point im going to bed either way
so this queen is running out time to make the internet famous rock list or get thrown back out side 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 04, 2010, 04:19:53 AM
I think im loosing my mind is this rock eating the aluminum
is it like the missing element seiously the aluminum disolved left the coating and paint of the soda can but the more it dessolves it apppears the rock temperature increses and the rock appears to bubble a little more can the aluminum be condensing it to the rock like we eat food
i know the water and frequency condensed one to granite but how
can the aluminum go inside would it create the conductor between the iron
and offset oh im so confused useualy this means in about to solve it
oh the lid on the bucket contained the steam you can then see the lazer and the whole manetic feild so you need daves device in a steam room
with a wide enough lazer to see the entire movement of the water ion flow given the lazer is constant it should not effectivly change the feild unless you only do part of it you would be charging the steam it would go to the next polarity no its normal flow 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 04, 2010, 04:30:42 AM
Wooow that rocks doing sssome weird things
to that lazer its reflecting the lazer now in a v
not off the water its pulling it thru the water to the rock
and bending it back to itself then out the top
of the water not back to the thermoneter but back to ceiling
it will bounce off the hot water but not like the rock
its like you can see the atomic particles
like dust thru a window can that rock have stored enough energy through the day to literaly expand the nature of the atom
man im in pretty deep you know rocks radiate energy
i been pumping 120 volts to this one all day
its like bending light like a mirror ill try to film it this phone has not been couperating i think because the magnetism in that room
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on September 04, 2010, 05:15:36 AM
Personal levitation feels like every cell in your body is vibrating and can get there by creating within a stream of acceptance.   Like allowing your judgement to refrain to "lovingly embrace" all thoughts till you somber off into a near dream state.  In my meditation experience I was seeing a large room with Hindu looking persons about, most were touching a 2o foot high orange glowing ball. When I touched the ball with the palms of my hands like they were doing my body vibrated all over and I floated 4-5 inches before my fear took over and I was back home and fell 4-5 inches back on the couch.   What is important about this experience was levitation wasn't what I thought it was, not a force lifting at the bottom.  It was all consuming yet I was in it and must say that when touching the glowing ball it was as if I was connected to another mind full of love and when I sensed the other mind fear overcame me and I fell.  It was as if we soul shared for a moment.  So fear separates us from this other joyous mind everyday unless we make the effort to reach it.  These things I share with you happened and I bear witness to it.   So within us is the ability to tap into greater things with out wires    self OU  LOL

      The problem being that a some point the people who do not have the ability to selfgenerate experience and rely on running all over the place to get their input put your body in a cage or a box because you dont quite act "normally".  You appear to be a danger to yourself and or others because you are not partaking in the usual animal delights of this world which you find mundane.  You are more of an observer of this world and less a part of it.  Weird but that is how it is coming down in my trip.  The other night I went out to feed the machine its daily caloric requirements and they had the fights on in the sports bar I happened into.  I watched the barkeeps go about there buisness and then watched the people watch the fighters.  The machines all getting workedup into a fervor over watching men beat themselves bloody for one machine need or another.   The images acting as some sort of testosterone secretion trigger.  I master my machine now it no longer rules me.  I noticed a few others that were outside the box.  We just shook our heads and shrugged our shoulders. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 04, 2010, 05:46:03 AM
Cletus....

electricity is a catalyst....

2 aluminums bond with 3 oxygens to form an
DiAluminum-Trioxide

but to do this, one of the aluminums needs some electrons
so it steals it from a 3rd aluminum next to it.
this creates an aluminum ion, that bonds with the salt to create a FOAM.
and thus the aluminum is "eaten" in the process....

this is one of the few peculiar cases where a crystaline/metal compound is in the form of a foam.
i think this is important in the production of a necessary space-metal. we just need to figure out how to safely dissolve or compress the foam and let the crystals re-structure into a solid.
without breaking the ionic bond.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 04, 2010, 05:56:30 AM
@ Hope


The pyramids, before egypt was conqured, and them ramsacked..
had a layer of limestone,
and the tip was coated with Rose Quartz.
These were intentionally removed and destroyed.


Their design caused a natural charge-imbalance between the inside and the outside.  That grew in intensity during the daytime, and fluxuated with cosmological periods.

the inner dimensions focused this charge-field into the center chamber. Where the arc sat (there were at least three of them)

The arcs thmselves, were like a "square capacitor"
with one of its plates the inner diameter of the box, the other around it. It had a charging period where it would be placed into its cradle inside the pyramid. Before it was used in battle.

From what i have decyphered from ancient texts and the depictions illustrated in carvings from around the world, i believe this energy was a static-electric phenomenon.

"lightning in a box", of a magnitude that Tesla himself never dared to tamper with.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 04, 2010, 06:09:14 AM
I got it to flim its like prodject rainbow if you know
what that is the philidelphia experiment produced a green type gas that green type gas is in my water where it cones from
i dont know im my cup antigravity i made the black rings too
tesla black rings dont ask me what they do
but i bent light havent lifted this rock and going to sleep on it i think
the outside layer if the rock is like a egg shell
it does not allow the fluid to go out
when i cut the last rock i notice it was more porus on inside
so maybey this rock will get a hack job
or maybee ill test with the little ones i cut last time in my cup
instid of big in my buckets making the energy a lot easier
thats a good idea well have a good night till tonaroe
tge world will have to wait on superman to
rest in the batcave and find the answers in the data down load
the sleep its in there somewhere im trying to make
of my failed day i dont take failure easy
oh you want to solar from lead plasma so te sokar cell can be better
im not giving you the uvc uva uvb
but sunblock is interesting
anyways na= gold ,mg=gold,al=onix,silicon,indigo
ya its been a bit since i did those so
i probly should made better notes the seven candles
3 finishes theuv abc=7
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 04, 2010, 06:21:07 AM
Na = lead
mg= gold
al=onix
silicon
lead-silcon better solar the great pyramid formula was the periodic table elements
rev 21 fuck i forgot
19 potasium
pure gold unto clear glass what is periodic table 18
rev 21:18 is it like argon i think i forgot well goodnight
the great pyramid just need the potasium and salt put back on top
better find my notes on the video
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 04, 2010, 08:54:27 AM
some info about PMH and icing technique to see energy field around it...Hi all

@ Harvey

Yes what i mean is to install your camera on a tripod and than spin your device and let it winddown until stop.

Thank's for the pix. If i see correctly in the middle of your ice bloc you have a part which goes up (expansion)and just near a part which make a hole (contraction) ? is it right ?

@Sucahyo

How to check if it is orgone . Any idea ?
I will try to electrolise the meltdown water to see if it is better as the original tap water. And poor some in a plant. Who knows

@David

Yes bravo for your dad.
Yes good idea to try to put the pmh near a glass of water and freeze it
And thank's for your input.

And now some very interesting results.

pix 1 is the set up with orientation in my freezer. Notice that the pmh is put on a rubber about 12 mm above the bottom of container. The charge input is 12 volts one or 2 touch.

pix 2 is the view of the icing from the bottom (for easier representation i have flip the image to have the same view as pictured from above.
notice the red arrows show zones where the ice is very clear but not thick.
the blue one show zone of expension thickness.
very complex flux indeed.

pix 3 is the same but more contrasted and i have marked the relevant points.

pix 4 is a side view showing clearly the 2 small monts with the small valley.

pix 5 shows a top view during the meltingdown, and where you can see the more thick monts upper right

Awaiting your comments

good luck at all

Laurent
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Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: woopy on September 04, 2010, 10:58:23 AM
Hi all

I have seen that David transfered one of my post from EF to here.

but the pix have not been transfered so i enclose here under

on pix 3 and 5 i have also mentioned in green the 2 small montains.

in one or 2 hours my new icing experiment will be ready (it takes more than 12 hours to completely freeze ). This time it is the same set up but the PMH is disposed vertically wit the same orientation .

so perhaps i can get a better 3D image of the flux arroud the PMH.

OK thank's David for transferring

very exciting thread

and good luck at all


Laurent
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 04, 2010, 01:56:09 PM
@all

I was sad because the ring wasnt making the compass to vibrate when it was put beneath it while hanging on a string.

I unhanged the ring to restart it with a 12v jolt, thinking that was wrong and just before doing it I get the compass close to the ring once more but this time all around the ring.

The magnetic field was alive at the tape junction and this time instead of vibrating slowly till getting aligned with the magnetic field, it jumped to position with good force.

If you do not believe me just do the test on yours. It is alive!

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 04, 2010, 06:12:07 PM
Man i must be getting bits and peicies
i think your talking about feeding the plant similar to this video i tryied to explain it not shure
maybee im just lost
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxicoj6iGvg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 04, 2010, 06:26:20 PM
After wwatching that video in reelized
where the helix is its right between those circles
i dont know how to convet the helix
but i do know were its at i do know how the energy flows get on your knees
like Gods makes us all and play in the mud like
me you see if you dig the trough put the
rocks in center the helix is the x
between the circles and water flows both directions at the same time
impossible you say yes so do i but it does
you can clearly watch the water and dirt particles float thru the whole loop and back to the begening
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 04, 2010, 07:04:48 PM
Sorry im on this i need help
take the water out the cup it floats antigravity
put the water in it sinks gravity

But thats wrong flip the cup remove the water
by energy floats the cup gas but you cannot
go back antigravity without
the hole in the cup im the top the weights and measures
of life the helix
ed explains he understands the weight and meausres
the small rock lifting the big door
the the small hole in the cup allows the energy to be put thru to inside the
cup but also allows the gas to flow out to go back antigravity
a helix why can i not transfer this type design to the rocks
its like so stupid its a hot air ballon
but tge heat is input from the top not the bottom
when the heat or energy goes thru the top
it lifts and drops fast the top is the
maximum energy always
the helix is
the --++
    ++++ why can i not see this
answer in the rock i think i need a time out
was his big wire aluminum or copper
or both 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 04, 2010, 07:33:56 PM
jesus...if you shake your device, can you hear the oxide shaking inside the tube?....i might have not packed the oxide well enough....if that is the case, i can either send you some oxide or something....i need this to work correctly for you.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 04, 2010, 07:49:02 PM
@cletushowel

That knowledge you have is very good. But what we really are looking for is a way to obtain energy that can be used for the daily house needs.

Could you please direct your good knowledge to that objetive and help us?

@lambright

I shake the ring and there is no sound whatsoever. The las thing I did was to pulse it over the compass and it makes the compass to spin each time I bring it near it and take it away with some rithm.

Dont worry I understand the principle. I am trying to read a pdf from Ed, dont remember how to write his second name.
Trying to fully grasp the concept and looking for a way to get out energy from it.

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 04, 2010, 08:27:10 PM
jesus....the device that i sent to jetijs in latvia has a coil inside the oxide core, testing showed a constant voltage albeit small.... hopefully he will get his device soon.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 04, 2010, 08:46:32 PM
@ Dave

Can you hook up a picture or video of the "tubes" you are making?

do they have any assymetrical-extentions like the broken-tube model?

------------------------------------------------------------
@ jesus

when you are working with a compass, the "needle" is magnetized. meaning it is a magnet.
its attracted to the metal.
i dont think dave explained this in his video, i think he just naturally saw it and placed it in the right place so he could tell "off" from "on".

The compass is normally pointing in one direction. when its sitting there, and the needle has settled.

when you put current through the coil, the needle turns accordingly.

when the device is "ON", and the current removed,
the needle points in a DIFFERENT direction than the "normal".
break the current and the compass goes back to normal.

and by "normal" i mean, it will be some combination of the Earth's field, and the needles attraction to the metal, depending on how far away you place it.

------------------------------------------------------------



@ Cletus

sorry im gonna have to make you turn your head ot see this one.
im not good at drawing,  much less at drawing 3-d vortexes.
to add a verticle angle to that, seemed incomprehensible...

so heres the best i can do.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 04, 2010, 08:50:53 PM
jesus....the device that i sent to jetijs in latvia has a coil inside the oxide core, testing showed a constant voltage albeit small.... hopefully he will get his device soon.....david

@ Dave

am i understanding that you made a coil, slid it inside the tube,.
and then packed the tube with your oxide-mixture?

and about this mixture, is it just pure black-oxide powder?
dry? wet? is there anything else in there with it?
sorry if you mentioned this before, i may have overlooked the information..

i was thinking, that seems like a pretty simple concept,
that can easily be replicated.
and we can penetrate the tube to interface with the conductive material at specific locations.



Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 04, 2010, 08:51:44 PM
Thank you @lambright
Thank you @smoky2

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 04, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
Im sorry im trying to combine everything i feel lost
im between the joe cell and the wireless car coils the antigravity is in the joe cell im stuck on the alternating the anitgravity thru the helix
and my arrest i met with a fed who told me carrots and piclkes
and my problem is duplicating the joe cell antigravity to the rock
some how tge rock changes the boiling point
of life so i though about stone soup and shure enough the first ingrediant was carrots so now im waiting on carrots
and trying to understand what the hell carrots and the stone soup
have to do with all energy and im shure next will be pickles then
we can all eat the whole town for free
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 04, 2010, 09:57:15 PM
What i was trying to explain is i think
were doing the same thing different
experiment in not using a compass i shut my giant
experiment down we literalyy made a feild of energy the whole property
my bathroom was the center and it moved the compass about
3/4 the way around depending on where you went it was really weird
its done im now down sized to the aluminum
can and copper when the switch is on the can floats
similar to moving the needle when the can is off it drops but all energy goes thru the helix whether im pumping power in or taking gas out which it droped so fast i dont think it could even took the gas out the hole i think it was inplosion like joe says because theres no flame there no explosion
theres when the power is cut it imploded
the expanded gas why is this important
because if you can lift a 30 ton corral rock with
reletive little energy by containing the gas
the expansion then droping it still has the same weight if not more because not only are you droping it your imploding it backwards
down so its gravity is not falling it doubled by the energy it could hold the amount of energy to lift it to start plus gravity oh its to dificult for me to explain im sorry I just cant complete everything
you need a ac or better battery to hold
the moray energy you need different light bulbs like moray had
or some one who understand the gas pressure
you need a stereo guy like lid or lazersaber to find the 12 volt pulse frequency and then you can harness about anything
till then were kinda stuck to these big
lake generators and transformers dc batteries
and none of those are anywhere close to free
im trying I am I work everyday trying to do this stuff
and till I theres a way to store the energy or remove it from the rock
like ed and hutchesion were stuck to lead and acid
ed lifted tge rock but thats only part he lowered the rock and
left it the same structure it was something einstien
hutchesion could not do eistein did philidelphia but he stuck people in it alive
hutchesion levitates but two things happen either his iron turns to pyright
dust or it changes structure to jellow before it levitates
and hutchesion does not leave it inplace after levetating it he has no controll
ed moved his rocks in perfect form levitated them and put them back so im calling hutchesion back to the board your not done
till you help us figure this out correct. 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 04, 2010, 11:49:13 PM
jesus...the reason i asked about shaking the device, i wanted to make sure i filled the tube completely with oxide....anyway thanks for your interest in this....thanks everyone!...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 04, 2010, 11:53:08 PM
Thank you @cletushowel
Thank you @lambright

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 05, 2010, 05:04:44 AM
@ cletus

it wasn't Einstein

it was actually Thomas Brown
and the fact that he quit the project, is probably what led the govt. to their little "mistake", because they tried to go on without him, and they didnt understand what they were doing.


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 05, 2010, 07:29:47 AM
Ill search tomas brown you search
uss liberty youll see the malfuntioning
invisible ship was going invisible and
not invisible make israel shoot at it but the first gun fire was static
and i can prove that in my testing in fact when i can load my next round of videos your going get a buch cool stuff
heres the list
I bent light
i expanded a 2 litter and shrank it perfectly
i polorised the rock made it a heat producing
water boiling machine
I developed this super fast aluminum
oxidizeing whatever that turns aluminum can to a paper
its making the elecrrical current some kind of
acid removing or giving energy to the aluminum
i did a awesome antigravity demonstration
by reversing the last aluminum can putting the rod copper rod in it
and if it had polarity like the hovercraft would lift in air
i did alot work trying hard to undertand the
ph of the limestone coral how this aluminum
gas can becoming out the coral like the hovercraft
making it the hydrogen type generating
system using the ph to make gas
now i know what your thinking why is ph important ph is polarity
salts are positive acids are - or other way around forgive me
so by knowing the ph we can offset the
polarity with energy this gets conplicated with no coral book
and different rocks and not even limestone
but im still close to lifting it it may not be how he did it
but i got a pretty good ubderstanding of how he did it and
im pretty shure im going to have to compensate for
different rock minerals and structures
mine arnt porus so my gas does bubble but not like his
would thru coral i polorised the rock with antenna ballanced it
cut it removed the radiation
charged it then added salt heated it cooled it adding salt each time where does all that salt go does salt evaporate
seriousthere was a lot if salt like
a handfull went into this rock like the size of my finger
i didnt think salt could evaporate or turn to gas
maybee im wrong but that 2 litter proved a lot
it proved eartg is expanding due to energy building
if you remove the water and energy from earth all the land mass shrinks in exact form so it would all go back to its original state
how fast xan eartg discharge i dont think you want to know that answer
lets just say it can be very fast the speed of radiation
the speed at which it charges is not the speed it discharges
remember whoa to the earth im going to say 7 days
just because it was created in seven well six
but 6 is really 3 now were talking
because the evening and the night were the first day
so 3 days on our callender three square waves hit
the bend seven the sevent part of wave six sides to the box three
days 2 steps forward one step
back 1 doubled is 2 two doubled is 4 i step back is three
4 doubled is 8 1 step backs is 7 8 doubled is 16 sweet 16
16=7
oh stone soup i got my carrots
theres a antioxidant in carrots may improve the air batterys
and the lead acid dc problems
charging with moray cell
im going put them in the water in morning
and see what it does wish me luck
 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 05, 2010, 07:41:57 AM
Hello All,   Long day but great weather here.   

The discussion changes quit a bit here.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant will give you some information.    When it was housed it was in a Tabernacle which was built in a special way.  It had a very unique foundation system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabernacle this may have been the arc's recharge collector.  Also it says something interesting about a crown of gold or ring AROUND the Arc (like a crown seems to mean to me at the top) and near the top perhaps suspended who knows how, i don't.    How do you think they knew the arc was recharged?   And why NEVER remove the gold covered slats (carrying handles?) but even more how was the arc used.
Cletus has an idea I bet since he discharged into the surroundings.   Maybe he can tell you of the total reported and known other items effected.    Dave where did the tubing come from you used.   I am pretty much stuck buying on the island for this next week.   I found a toilet water line metal flex braided I could get a steel coupling and remove the washer that exists in only one end, but the material is steel I think not aluminum .  AND DID YOU ALL understand that post about the device spinning when lock with the 3 parallel coils.  Spinning without stopping??? Is this was he meant??  Help me out here,   attach an efficient motor/generator design and OU is near or achieved.    Excellent use of the colors  this 3 - 6 - 9 Smoky2 they are angles or phases.  If we need something to react with each element emits/produces/collects wavelengths (radiant energy). Our eyes see light because it is build into us, developed because of its availability was the most constant, thus we sighted use this sense the most.   So if we were around another source and that source was the most available then we may have developed a sight based upon say the darkness? So it is a matter of perspective of your total environment of what you can see.  The importance being these OTHER types of light may be harmonics or subs of a central light wave that sets the frequencies of all other "light type wavelengths". The helix is odd to me, truly it is beautiful but seems vacant to me of a second helix at 90 and 180 degrees.    Man am I going to get trashed for saying this.  But it always seemed like we are missing some pairs to the current movement. What did you say Cletus,  3 things mattered.  Maybe by including them all in a helix type model we can see their relationships better.  I am very CAD less at this time (any freeware ones?)  Can some one CAD out a helix type model of the three variables and pairs in Cletus's theory? Edited
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 05, 2010, 07:49:25 AM
Oh the salt created a underwater type plasma in the water
im shure someone cooker then me has done this before
but it was cool for me to see i made a light bulb out salt pile that was cool
i shook the whole house with this water plasma it made the water vibrate
like you see when people put water on a speaker
and i meant to say the 2 litter shrank exactly half its original size that was a trip but very cool like all these faces my uncle has pictures of in rocks coukd been like all shrunk the last energy discharge
seriouslyif you understand expanding specific gravity and contracting it
i expanded the 2 litter and contracted it with a water plasma of
h20 aluminum salt 120 volts copper boiling points a
over flow pan i created a minuture pressure
makers let the pressure build up the released the cap
it was pretty dumb and dangerous
living life on the edge dam i got shocked a bunxh today usualy about 10 times a day but today was a kicker man
like every wire was just im the way of my hand
after my hands were wet and playing with that salt shit that was a good one
still nothing like hitting that 220
or the neon liscense plate from pepboys that dam thing jumped about 6 inches to my finger serioisly is the bulb on a neon
just for safety cn those jump the distance with no bulb
isnt that what makes the tesla coil sparks
im not cool enough to have a toy like a musical tesla coil
ok well good night oh the limestone has argon in it from what i read
maybey thats iteresting but argon is heavyeir then air i thought huh 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 05, 2010, 08:00:03 AM
Hope you didnt get the key did you
emaill me I send you the the eye ball
its so cool think of it as light going in
and bouncing and the going to the retina but the eyes
pick up the bouce in the star
ch@helpuflip.com
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 05, 2010, 05:17:10 PM
I cant tell you why but some time last night
that aluminum green stuff floated in that
cup its dropping like snow and
covered the rock so some how some way
that stuff lifted last night now its a aluminum oxide i beleive
but it green like moss its the key to everything
i know it is because God told me when he walked on
water that he walked on this stuff looked like lilly
pads I saw it all in a dream the wind changing the frequency
of the salt to the green now i have salt and
green floating stuff i really dont know what to do
i feel all the answers are here in front my face
and if i cant see them what good is more testing
some times i wake up with the answer some times i wake up with the question that answers the problem today i woke up
with a question if the fluid is chasing the north and the south
like ed says like i did how does that work
its a circle clockwise dont ask me why it circles clockwise
thats the ion flow the north chases the south
my phone cannot demostrate it in a video
its poor quality the bubbles and ion flow
the green stuff really makes it more
visible when i did the coral castle codes i should lifted this rock i regret it now
it had something to do with edd did it the very hard way
and a coil from each of those generating wheels
in perticular order lined the power direction
from the helix outside to the north chasing the south
it was 10,2,7 i have forgot it all
im sorry i dont understand how i can forget something so important
must be the goverment again im going to try to go thru my
notes i left on the castle video if there still there and see if i can remember
it im so stupid i had no clue it tied everthing together
i thought if i released it would just ruin the mystery
and make the castle no interest plus the radiation was dangerous  i didnt realize it ties everything to the energy
I guess if I dont figure it out again you can list this as my biggest mistake.   
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on September 05, 2010, 05:28:14 PM
      The energy of the Sun is not derived from nowhere.  It is garnished from its trip through the vacuum which is full of  very heated electrons and neuclear cores.  Heated to the point of total seperation of individual particle to particle behaviour not displayed on our list of "elementry" particles.   As the sun encounters space plasma it converts it into Sun plasma.  The sun is continously producing a magnetic field that manipulates the space matter to cool.  The corona is produced from interstellar hot electrons cooling or slowing down,  The light we see comes from the corona not the Suns core.  It is way too cool and dense in the Suns core to produce light.  It is total bullshit that a star is some sort of  energy producer that suddenly runs out of fuel when the hydrogen fuel runs out.   It is an example of negative entrophy.  We are examples of negative entrophy.  The space plasma critters that run around and check out our glorified bullets with people inside them are examples of negative entrophy.  The magnetically self confining plasma they create in vain attempts at creating fusion overunity displays negative entrophy.  The Sun is alive in this sense.  It is not worthy of adoration as the giver of life but most if not all religions were created by Sun worshipers.  Luciferians.  Luminescent Lucifer.  Lucifier presides over hell.  Hell is said to be hot.  I guess if you dont do what the priests want you to do you are condemned to residing in lucifers hometown which would be somewhere in the vicinity of the big selfpinching plasma ball 92 million miles away.  What priests want you to do most is show up at the temple with an offering.  The exploitave Egyptian barbarians enslave african natives to do their work for them while they run around adoring a multitude of gods.  They build this ridiculous religious theme park on the blood sweat and tears of enslaved men.  They exalt themselves to the level of Gods by using technological "secrets" passed down from generation to generation of priests who at one time witnessed the remnants of the greater older civilization.  There are symbols of spaceships ascending through electrcal grids in there.  There are pictures of guys with one wire flashlights there is no soot from torches  in the great pyramids.  No hiorogliphic images of what this pharoh did or that one did.  The word is that the greater civilization has returned for a look around and they aint happy with the priests.   It is of interest to note that the human eye is able to detect heat waves and this device appears to produce a mirage.  It is almost like what the Sun does.  It takes electrons and causes them to change their velocity into less velocity which always creates photons.  Investigate advances in electrostatic cooling.  You will be amazed at the amount of furor this subject raises in the political systems we find ourselves having to cohabitate a planet with.  If you can electrostatically cool your medium you can convert thermal energy into electrical energy without the use of fuels and without the limitations of carnot cycle.  You get what is called negative entrophy going where chaotic thermal energy is converted into the more ordered form of electrical energy.  That is what drives a Tesla magnifier.  The thermal energy of the atoms in the spark gap is converted into electrical "pressure"  Tesla stumbled upon it when he was attempting to quench his spark gaps.  The relatively hot gas entering the spark gap leaves the spark gap cooler.  Where did the thermal energy go.  He latter quenched his spark gaps with magnetic fields.  Again cooling down fast moving electrons in air molecules to emit higher frequency photons. He was a student of Crookes.  Crookes had to defend many times that the light was coming from the gas in his partially evacuated tubes and not from the cathode.  The electrostatic potentials developed across his tubes cooled the air electrons into emitting light as they cooled.  Tesla took regular vacuum tubes made by Deforest and pumped air into them. Drove a car all over the place fueled by warm air.  The first thing he did with his vacuum tubes is change them into not vacuum tubes but air quenched spark gaps.  The arc of the covenant is an air quenched spark gap.  The fog that surrounds the device is fog.  What happens when you cool down moisture laden air quickly.  It gets foggy.  .  The military ufos do this.  They condense plasma into hot gasses.  The latent heat of condensation of plasma is used to power the craft.  The destruction of jet engines with supersonic expansion of plasma in the outlet of the throat of the laval nozzle is because of the latent heat of plasma converting into low frequency acoustic waves that resonate in the expansion chamber until the engine acoustically disintegrates.  The guy after Crookes that named this form of matter plasma was really tuned in.
Before that it was coined radiant matter.  Matter that radiates energy.  Faraday was the first to refer to the possiblity of a phase of matter existing beyond that of a hot gas and named it radiant matter.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 05, 2010, 05:47:16 PM
My notes are gone there covered up by illumianti
post at least i cant get them on my phone maybee on a computer im pretty upset what a bad day 10 2 7
1 circle charge the rock 2 energies
7 =16 
Sorry im trying to put what i remember
1027210
10-2=8.       10-2=8
             88 =2 eights
8+8=     16=7
 1+2+7=10
oh im so stupid 7 star of david actualy has eight
points all dementions this is why man is forgetfull in nature and
ed built the valintine with the rose
to remind him i should built one too
i guess 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 05, 2010, 07:00:08 PM
@ Hope

We need something that reacts/vibrates at or around the frequency of magnetized iron. (~281 Ghz)
My thoughts along this line are some form of Piezoelectric Crystal. i know some of these can be grown, but my skills in this area are about as bad as my drawing.....
Also i don't know a lot about how to construct the dimensions of large crystals to get them to resonate at specific frequencies.
When i get to that stage, i'll probably need a lot of help..

My "vortex" was not drawn good at all, it was just a hasty attempt to show cletus what he was asking about. about the position of the spherical fields. i cant really draw them the way they should look....

i think what we're seeing is actually eminating from this.
Look at a lightbulb from the side, at a distance.
you see the interference pattern radiating out,
 just like Dave's device produces,
just like that black&white image i posted a few pages back.

but the way it behaves., (this may sound silly) is like the light itself is magnetized? polarized? i dont know the word im looking for,. but the waves radiating out are attracted to the field of physical matter, drawing the light towards objects placed near it. 
------------------------------------------------------------

I figured out what we need to detect this
most IR recieving equipment has a low-band cut-off at 300Ghz
we need to either remove this restriction,
or use a high-band microwave reciever to detect the energy.
this reciever may not exist,. the closest thing i know of myself is a little hand-held gizmo they use to safety-check a microwave oven for electro-radiation leakage.
but unfortunately for us, these meters do not go up to a high enough frequency for what we need of them.

most anything else i can think of is designed for recieving high-power outputs, and im fairly confident that this is a low-power / residual power type device. at least it its current designs.
There is a passive-bridge microwave reciever, used in telecommunications years back that may work as an oscilliscope input.
they use a passive antaena, and then amplify it, like a radio.
i know these can hit up in the 296Ghz range, so 281 should be no problem. i'd have to track down the exact name of the things. possibly find one surplus, or used. as they are obsolete in the industry and no longer made.
picking it up on a scope, and dividing out the recievers amplification values, would give you the power output of the portion of the field the antenna recieved. simple area equations give us the total field-power of the device.

 


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on September 05, 2010, 08:17:15 PM
  arent there radar detectors used to detect cops checking your speed.  Fuzz busters.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 05, 2010, 11:11:05 PM
Wow sparks that was alot i did manage to get it all
i knew the pressure in those black lights were backwards
im really limited your right about the sun but a bit off
the sun is not from particles in space
it from the reflection of the seven stars
the mystery of the seven stars
but its no hydrogen ball is there good weather in
canada i went one time on the cruise to alaska
id like your help you know.
Maybee im beyond help 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 05, 2010, 11:37:47 PM
So the water ground in morays valve
is termmolay queeencing the energy negative entropy
so the energy from the antenna is then the power source due to difference in temperature but im still stuck on the pressure these thing light up at
if tesla changed the presure to match the -entrophy
sorry these are kinda big and new words but from your explination
im trying to use them in terms same as you so i may be a bit off
creates the movement thru the tube wick creates the heat
so essentialy its the energy tapped going from the air to the water the difference in temperature
the energy that melts the ice but being 50 feet in air and a good ground temperature never match theres always a flow is that right
so its just the tunning and how much the granite salt cell can remain a constant temperature lol this is pretty funny is it really that simple
how do we tune these pressures
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 06, 2010, 12:03:17 AM
So instid of the tempature split in air creating the lightning
taking the temeperature split from air to earth
quenching it creates a steady always lightning
is that right spark you just have to quench it right
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 06, 2010, 12:12:29 AM
That kinda explaines a lot to me actualy
even though I got a head ache and in bed
i see why my 12 volt salt cells didnt work outside when i went to show them off got to hot on concrete
the batteries all fried with computers because in essentialy
directing lightning to the batteries
way more energy then they can handle
now there was no spark gap and light
but it was always steady 2 plus vokts but i knew it was more
the metter just not reading it
can a metter read lightning not ac pulse
sparks lightning itself can it be read in volts
is it ac or dc what is static ac or dc
now we are getting close to understanding
well i think we are
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on September 06, 2010, 12:53:26 AM
@cleuts


     negative entrophy is exhibited in a device as simple as a thermometer.  The molecular vibrations are transferred to the bulb of the thermometer.  Predictably the mercury in the bulb rises and this lift measures the temperature of the surrounding medium.  In a spark gap we have ionized nitrogen and oxygen.  They have a certain amount of energy required to unbind the electrons from the atoms.  These electrons are not only bound to an atom in a lifeless dead molecule the molecule is vibrating moving colliding with other molecules expanding contracting all sorts of chaotic actions and reactions.    When an electron is ionized like it would be in a spark gap it carries with it the energy of the molecular motion along with the binding energy from the input.  In a field absent of any external force other than the ionizing frequency needed to overcome the binding energy the electroy would simply result in unpredictable collisions with the surrounding atoms and your input energy follows the positive entrophy course which is from order to chaos.  The input energy will dissipate across the whole matrix until it becomes just part of the background noise.  Put a magnetic field into the picture.  An accelerated electron leaving the atom now has direction.  It will align its magnetic dipoles with the magnetic field lines.  The electrons will now drift orbit circulate or whatever you want to picture in an orderly predictable fashion determined by the magnetic field lines permeating the spark gap.  You get enough mass going in the same direction and it hits mass not in motion what happens is the pressure rises.  The amount of collisions per second increases and you get pressure.  Lets add the inertia up when the electron collides with something now.  We have the inertia it had in the bound state.  We have the inertia of the molecular vibration and we have the inertia of the bulk movement into the gap.  The energy it imparts or what physicists call the photon transfer from the inertial frame of the electron to the inertial frame of the collector is far in excess of the energy needed to overcome the binding energy of the electrons.  A solar cell does the same thing.  It gathers photons radiated from the Sun's negative entrophy thing and imposes them on a crystal.  The photons excite the crystal into an electron shift from the valence bands in the solid to the conduction bands in the solid.  It displays negative entrophy.  It took incidental chaotic radiation and changed it into dc potentials imposed on either end of the cyrstal.  Negative entrophy exists in all matter otherwise it wouldnt be around long enough for us to even know it was there or "mattered"
  Cleuts you got it.  Imagine a lightning bolt you could make charge a capacitor.  Now you got some negative entrophy going.  All that energy is inside the capacitor.  No light or thunder or any of that scattering of photons.  You got a capacitor charged up to mega mega volts and the capacitor is the size of a small town.

edit:  You are probably correct about the seven stars,  There is no plasma physicist that can predict what form it is going to take.  It is like trying to predict if we drop a feather in a hurricane exactly where the feather is going to end up.  We can only observe plasma at this point and conjecture what darkmatter and dark energy really are.  This is not to say we cant get some interesting things going on around a spark gap.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 06, 2010, 01:41:37 AM
@ Sparks

The frequency i believe we are trying to detect is far outside the range of a "speed detector" device.
Police radar operates around 13-28Ghz
police laser @ exactly 333.3333333333333333~ Ghz
the radar comes in 3 bands, X, K, and Ka. low frequencies.
the lasers are all standard. they're a tripple-laser diode package thats designed to emit long-distance pulses.
the reciever on the laser gun, is just like to the one in the speed detector, its another standard component, designed to be used with those particular diodes.

Basically "fuzz busters" dont have the right components inside.
It's a good idea,.

 and im sure there are SOMETHING out there that operates at the 281Ghz range, and we just have to keep searching for the device that can detect radiation at that freq.
i dont think the FCC controls that band, its one of the "public bands", used by telecom and remote control devices... i guess theres a lot of telecom equipment, or even like a remote controll airplane, if you had a way to "tune" the frequencies..

i know theres people here that can design a circuit to do this,
i get lost when it comes to filters... specially at that high of a freq. i played with sound years and years ago,. but this is WAAY beyond the audible range...

i think the simplest thing is to just take an IR - reciever,
and REMOVE the low-pass filter, or modify it down to 275Ghz
and if possible, also modify the high-pass filter to cut off at say 290Ghz (this will eliminate the telecom interference)

then we would have a magnetic current tester.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 06, 2010, 03:52:48 AM
Spaks your helping a lot so when the energy is not lined up it turnes to heat
so when two ends are put into the plasma the plasma expands but some how
tesla adjusted the bulbs probly length and mass and call it filter
the gas to a pressure to allow the energy istid of a bioling water to be a warm bulb the rest of the energy to be directed to use
and once the bulb is warm its no longer adjusting
taking energy i think i got this
so when my 2- litter boiled over the
plasma expanded witg great force so you would think it would keep expanding with great force but no it doesnt
it self levels the amount of pressure
and gas to conduct two end of wires
one from the bottom one from the top
making a bubling gas the whole time actualy
lookes like coral gas the gas bubbles almost stop moving
but it sound like your saying tesla found a even better more effecient way by using the atmospere as the gas the steam
and aligning the dioples thru a gap
if thats what he did then im pretty shure thats what moray did too
tuned that gap so sounds like it can be tuned to the voltage of 120
by controlling the gas mixture and or the tube and size
or go to next step the cap and tune the continual spark
so the voltage is increased now sounds like moray matched his bulbs 50
to equal his antenna amount it could absorbed tuned the gap and added a iron to absorb all the extra energy
wow this is a lot in one day please stay in contact
obnius is getting into a mess with me on the
other board dont know who he is but
its kinda stupid ch@helpuflip.com
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 06, 2010, 06:06:58 AM
Im really interest in why your looking
for 333.333333
teslas 333 earthquake
but im more interested in this
369
i used 9 but i dont understand it so i went the other way
36936
now its starting to make sense to me
3+6=9
9+9=18=9 9+3=12
2+6=8 8+3+6=17=8
17+9=26=8
7/3=2.33333 7+3=10+2=12=3+3
=6+3=9+3=12 i cant sleep
this is bad when i can sleep
so 3 is12 4 3 become 8 everything after
4 is a 8
the evening and morning wer the first day
3 days are six our time  the seventh he rested the 1
after 1 is 233= 8 im not done i still dont get 9
whys it so important because its the three in one
maybee 3 threes in one
12 =3 12+12+12is 8 so 9 is 8
so everything ads to a 8 reduces to a 3
tell me is that the c with the line on it on the front of coral
castle is that line on the 3 and 8
what does all this do 3 and 8 is 11
11 is two nevermind that it just rymed
but maybey it is important maybey its the two poles
the diapoles i guess is the word im learning these on here
this is my college more professors in one room
then students i like it better that way
you guys are all awesome even though im
jumped on board a ship with a small paddle im trying to row it fast 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 06, 2010, 06:26:29 AM
When I got arrested on that earth
battery i had to meet with a fed he told me
carrots and pickles i realized the carrots
were the first thing in the stone soup
there was three stones in the soup
the three stone on top the capstone the soup was fit
for a king the carrots are a conductive antioxidant
basicaly helps the erosion of the
metals the air battery is the nail soup
the carrots help the galvonic
effect stops the errosion
but they said they sent me a valentines card
i said what a valentines card they said ya
valentine is my dog i found her in the country
on valintines street so i thought they chiped my
dog or some shit now im really confused
valentines us eds flower its two ears
but i think theres good feds and evil feds and the good ones on inside are trying to help but cant without getting
busted for giving away the secretes
but why is valintines day so important
to ed to this fed in the jail if he forgets the date the still
have a card because he made the worlds bigest card
a v is a card the capstone is it numbers or
the card if you forget the date then the numbers would not matter
i dont have this answer but its a puzzle for shure
they wouldnt tell me valintines card
for nothing. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 06, 2010, 09:48:09 AM
Cletus just post a PM to my message icon.   We are only interested in 3-6-9 waveguide/collector/multiplier for this day I think that will be alot for us all.   Thanks    I made a post on your battery request.   edited
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Bob Smith on September 06, 2010, 02:48:42 PM
@ All,
Taking into account the visible radiant energy leads me to believe that light is in fact not really a question of photons, but rather of magnetism. Look at Stubblefield's ability to produce light from earth batteries tapping into the earth's magnetism.

I guess the next question is, how can the Lambright effect be heightened to produce light, or perhaps, to produce a kind of darkness that in fact cancels out light...
Bob
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 06, 2010, 05:01:53 PM
Just to kind of show everyone where im going with this on my next build.basically i have Two stock-pipes, one is 1/2", and other is 1"
center-split, and then im cutting them down into 1-inch segments.
The goal is to have a large ring, with a ring of smaller tubes inside. outer tubes, slot facing outwards like Dave's, the inner ring will have the slots facing inwards.

So far i have the inner ring cut, and a few pieces of the outer ring. just need to cut a few more pieces, then file everything down smooth. and sand them down on the parts where they touch.  Here's some photos so show the process.

Dave was cutting his pipes in half, then bending them back into a round shape. What i found was that Center-Splitting the pipe, keeps it in a round shape, then the most bending you have to do is just a 'widening' of the gap, if they are too close together.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 06, 2010, 05:05:14 PM
Hope i dont think im much help
maybeee I am but work with me a lot and
ill figure it out I dont have a scop and never used
one but doesnt mean i dont hace a general undestanding
of whats going on in fact i think i could possible draw the lines
witg no scope but thats would be interesting
possible maybee.
Any ways ill tru to put in what i know
if the wave bounces 3 3 3 3
it alws stays .0021 mv
on its own hooked to earth given
my earh battery was perfect and the
now no mater how many 3 you have your voltage is
.0021 so i thought tesla magnification
if 3 wave is not added to the 6
the wave is not increasing
so instid of 3 3 3  i changed the
coils to 3 6 9 now the wave can
expand or add to its self as it goes
now from my math it should have squared
the power magnification not doubled
it but it didnt double it did square but
not like I calculated it times 1000
i hope im putting these right it went
.210 mv and was stuck but still
.210 is 3 but a 1000 loops more
10 is 1 loop i proved this in my
making my brain one energy not possible
but i did 3 finged in a pyramid has three loops
on my perfect square wave with these spirals through
it it will make 3 loops on one hand
3 3 on otherhand 6
to the two temples a 2 the two sides of the body
and wait the waves oscilate the brain
till it becomes one jumped the gap in the brain some how
dont ask me why it was just so interesting how the loops matched
the metter i was just kinda playing around
i did do a video on my youtube demostrating that
so the 369 is only 1000 times the energy
because i went 12 15 18. 21
no increase at all after the 9
always .210 i was stuck on this a few days
aug 13 fri 13 14 15 or
so i dont rememver exactly when but i know
every time i was testing that thing
it was just mv but i got so frustrated
i stoped after three days or so and read
the guys web stuf who was helping on explaining the documents on
teslas earthquake i found two things
the .210 tesla calculated to go around the world
i said holy shit i looked up eartg quakes and shure
enough marina islands 6.3. 6.6 6.9
teslas 369 and 666 it hit exactly on grid line 12
the quakes landed on12 but came out earth
like a clock 3 oclock 6oclock 9 12  put me dead in the middle
but it has some effect on the power grid
i think the power grid here goes to
sandiego power plant im not shure
but i know it put the grand canyon
like perfect between the marina island
trench and another part of the ocean
so the power does not multiple in square
but by 10 .0021x10 x10x10 1000 times
but it does not matter how many volts input
its not inputing inoutputing to earth so even if your metter read
120 volts coming out .210 is going to earth
your funneling the frequency from air to earth
2.1 is actualy the exact center i prove this in my
attemp to lift this rock but am not posting those
because there kinda imbarasing
but the rock draws a perfect 2.1 amps
dont ask me why its not the small rock im my
antigravity stuff i just put out but
a big boulder i downsized
here is my understanding of things
you cross the9 with a 1 then you hit
88 sweet sixteen theres two energies
the north chases the south
in a circle but when you get the north
and south seperated like i got my rock making or producing the gas
i put shit load of salt on it the garnes to stone soup
i knoticed that the electrical tape slows the oxidization
down of the aluminum must be what ed referes to as rubber
and white powder im just going of question people as i dont have eds book
but when the north and south circle
there has to be a way to stop that circle
that directs the flow from the rock the positive to the
neutreul mine did get closer but did not lift the rock it shrank the
2-litter exatly half i knoticed and understood hutchesion
is doing now the wire and rock in my bottle were the nucleus of the bottle
they were fighting energies because one wire was on bottom one was on the top when the energy lined up instid of
the warp from point a to b its warped a and b
together by shrinking the box the 2-litter
so in terms hutchesions power supply is enough
to alter the nucleus to go from a to b
but the box has to be stronger then the material
which is why i beleive he lifts ice cream and max i saw was a 75 pound ball
that a box could easiely hold 75 pounds will not collapse a box
in fact im kinda wondering what amount of power could
implode a box from inside maybee this is why
the a frame his a frame had side braces
what im trying to say is the box has a unique charateristic
the would not change with specific gravity
if you pull evenly on all parts of a box from the inside
i dont beleive any amount of energy can break or collapse it
as long as there equal this is a very interesting
question anyways im off subject
if all material has e and f energies
you imput enough e it will eventualy
become a e and warp to f
but this is where your power really comes
in once to f it only takes one f to send it clear back to e and one e to send it clear back to f its no longer the amount of energy
originaly input but just one so if you have 10,000
attoms of e and f and it takes a lot of energy to make those
all e once there all e it will go between e and f
with the change of only one the ballance
by inputing freqiency hutchesion is overiding the e
making it all e and go to f but some how
hes not doing it perfect hes interfering with the atomic structurcture
itself the electrons and protons
anyways i wrap this up by saying
moray used a antenna and rock
and water
ed used water a rock and a generator
possible radio antenna stuf on wall
hutchesion used radio waves
all used a box
tesla is only one who defies all this
logic but I have not understood or study teasla
antigravity
the joe cell uses water and antigravity
I really confused on which way to go
hutchesion is facinating i dont see no free power
I think if i had his help I coukd do miricles
tesla utilized the power very effeciently
moray and ed I beleive are the free power
well tesla has free power but cannot be harnessed
the unlimited coils i did its not controlled
im missing something tesla did to controll
it the tubes the caps not shure probly a combination
theres one link to all of it this i know
 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 06, 2010, 05:25:26 PM
Teslas "anti-gravity" was not the same. it only works in 'ionizable air'. He discovered that at high enough potentials he can cause a distortion in air, similar to water-pressure.
the outside air pushes on the field, and the field pushes on the air. By distorting this field, he can cause motive-force.
Expanding the field on one side, and condensing it on the other provides a force in one direction.

Some people have come close, creating small "electrified platforms" and whatnot, that fly a foot or two off the ground.
but they're ony dealing with about 1MV,  whereas Tesla was known to play with 7 or 8, which, in AIR that changes everything around you.. not to mention all kinds of crazy sparks if you dont control it.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 06, 2010, 05:33:37 PM
What i beleive is the weights and measures of life is the 8
the ballance the
56,000/9/6/3=1234567910
144,000/9/6/3= the missing8
so if you can send 1 8 back and forth
you dont need much energy at all its the perfect
ballance naturaly so you dont need to remove all the numbers
to make say a 2 go to a 3
you can just make all numbers go to 8
or from 8 how im not shure
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 06, 2010, 05:49:24 PM
Ya i see like edds rock with invisible air bubbles arouund them i think that may be my problem the energy is not going back to the bottom
but side of the rock then instid of pulling it im
the plasma flow the plasma circles
around the side where it getting the energy
im going try to test again my dad
was being a jerk again my lifes pretty hard
right now but till we break free energy
our whole generation is going to continue to be slaves
i remember riding my gocart for days on 50 cents
not no more kids dont even get go carts
or the fun to be able to ride them there lucky to get food
on table or keep lights on its really bad here
people will work all day for a pack of cigaretes
two three incomes cant support a house
anymore not in california im trying keep my head up and pray
we have a breakthrough in energy soon.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 06, 2010, 05:52:07 PM
What i beleive is the weights and measures of life is the 8
the ballance the
56,000/9/6/3=1234567910
144,000/9/6/3= the missing8
so if you can send 1 8 back and forth
you dont need much energy at all its the perfect
ballance naturaly so you dont need to remove all the numbers
to make say a 2 go to a 3
you can just make all numbers go to 8
or from 8 how im not shure
Hi Cletus - I think you've made an error there.
try this 123.45679 x 3 x 6 x 9

Here are the increments.  370.370 37 then 2222.22222 then 19,999.99998
144 000/9/6/3 is indeed 888.88888888 - ?  That's amazing.

I think your posts are getting too long.  Rather do videos if you're up for it. 

Kindest regards,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 06, 2010, 06:35:00 PM
A frame = a=aluminum
valintiness day the 14
silicon periodic table 14
the antigravity lifter aluminum foil
what does silicon and aluminum do?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 06, 2010, 06:58:08 PM
I dont understand hope mine came to
20,000
but its not 20,000 its 200,000
144,000 +56,000
i think because its not including the 0
maybee you calculator doesnt go far enough
to the pattern
56,000/9/6/3=  345.679012345679
its continualy 123456790123456790
always no 8
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 06, 2010, 07:13:01 PM
I dont remember why i did this
maybee it will help someone i was filling in the parts
of the tesla death ray they cut out
i noticed from the sixth ave it was percentages
200000/3/6/.25=444444444/7
6,349.206349206349

13.5 /9/6/3 get rid of 1
.5 gets rid of 7
11.5 get rid of 2
Teen 43 three six  fifth 7
2.4 4.2
sorry its like i had my whole memory
wiped again in last week i have to stop answering the phone
how they do that is amazing i met a guy
who did the matrix three times they wiped his memory
each time if only i knew where that guy is
well this is my notes i think your 8
should stick to the bible code 12 and 12000
1.2 2.4 4.2 im really trying to understand the 12,000
then theres one level above that sorry my memory is gone its in revelations i think 24,000 and 24 sealed it doubles the energy of the frequency
speed 24,000 and 24 may not be correct numbers
there in bible though 

 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 06, 2010, 10:17:21 PM
a small success but none the less it finaly lifted ill be trying to improve it to acelarate the lift and the drops pretty fast the lift has a lot to do with the water temperature its in fact esier to lift in hot water then cold wich violates the laws dont ask me why the heat source should instanty rise but it doesnt untill it gets the gas producing a sufficient flow or the water
circling at a sufficeint flow or both not shure all I know it the stupid thing lifted it was actuay going a bit higer but hitting the side it wanted to go sideways im assuming flip not shure I changed containers but thats a whole different set of temperatures salt micture amp draws ect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gJqxZab4BM
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 06, 2010, 11:02:24 PM
hi everyone!....@smokey2!....i like you! will you be my friend?....seriously, the way you have got all this in perspective is so very cool!..the implications of these devices and their applications are something to think about!...anyway here are the specs....3/8" dia. aluminum tube bent into a circle, the cut ends meeting flush...two small holes drilled, one on each side of the cut ends...a coil of fine copper wire is put into the tube, the coil ends come out the small holes....dry iron oxide, Fe3O4, is now put into the tube, around the copper coil...i pack the oxide tightly in the tube, making certain there are no voids....after filling, i bend the tube to complete the loop, and tape the junction together....i now wrap i coil of about 20-30 turns of copper wire,20-22ga[i think] on the outside of the tube, to energize the device....when i energize it, i go + to - first, 2 or 3 times, then - to +, then its ready......i am still going to shoot a  how-to video, i have been a little busy and now i am going to be on Extreme Makeover, they are doing an episode here in salem, and by luck, i was at the right place/right time!...anyway it will be a little busy and hectic for a little while....i will still post...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on September 06, 2010, 11:06:22 PM
   Great job Cleuts.   Tesla had a thought experiment you can do.  Take a bottle and add some weights so it sinks to the bottom of a lake.  Add a tube to it so any gasses can come out the top.   Put a hole in the side of the tube so water entering has to go through a turbine that runs a generator that takes water and splits it into hydrogen and oxygen.  The hydrogen and oxygen flow from the bottle to the atmosphere through the tubing attached.  The bottle never fills up with water so the pressure differential driving the turbine never goes away.  A big plus in all this is that the hydrogen and oxygen can be detonated in an engine and recombine into water.  It will pull a vacuum on the cylinder not produce a pressure but it will make a piston move against a spring.  The hydrogen and oxygen recombination can occur at thousands of feet above the Earth.  The water from the recombination again flows over a turbine that helps pump out the cylinder because of any inefficiencies in the hydrolysis reaction.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 06, 2010, 11:42:24 PM
Well if that was a tesla idea it was a cletus mistake about 3
videos back it blew a hole in the side of the can a difference of energies
yes the water refills and continualy
evaporates a sr 72 blackbird has a bottom that leaks fuel
grandpa never said what the fuel was but wait till you see my ion
propulsion jet i just made now thats bad ass ill post it in a bit
trying to figure out if it shot the rock out or if the rock was in it
till i picked it up to tear it apart so people could see it
antways i rebuilt it twice i think you need
a aframe design around the rock so the continual exansion
and contraction is a bit more controlled its pretty cool
you never seen nothing like this
its my light bulb warp drive supercharged
my house is full of smoke give me a bit ill down load it
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 06, 2010, 11:50:51 PM
hi everyone...@jesus...just wondering if you had anything interesting to post...@smokey ...excellent work!....looking forward to hearing more about it....this should be interesting....thanks for sharing your ideas with all of us...and smokey, your insight is priceless!....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on September 07, 2010, 12:09:04 AM
 @david

     Not trying to clutter your thread but I believe your device has alot to do with negative entrophy.  Or when heat application to a system makes its temperature drop.  You are adding energy to a system and increasing the ordering of the ferrite.  This produces your effect which I believe is electron cooling as they encounter the magnetic field of the device.  This gives rise to the light aberration round the device.  The photons generated by the electron cooling combining with the photons generated by the electron cooling that goes on in the corona or in a lightbulb or any other device where electrons slowdown.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 07, 2010, 02:01:35 AM
hi everyone...@jesus...just wondering if you had anything interesting to post...@smokey ...excellent work!....looking forward to hearing more about it....this should be interesting....thanks for sharing your ideas with all of us...and smokey, your insight is priceless!....david

I have nothing at this time. My experiments this week have been a complete chaos.

No success this week.

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: truthbeknown on September 07, 2010, 02:09:31 AM
I have nothing at this time. My experiments this week have been a complete chaos.

No success this week.

Jesus


Thats okay. Keep trying when you can and something will bound to happen. Rome wasn't built in a day!

 ;)

J.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 02:33:17 AM
@dave
id like to thank you for beleiving in me its been a real hard couuple years and the stuff im working on no one understands but a few and those that help
me i apeciate you a lot
heres the ion propulsion jet
i built today it can be used in many ways
please read the notes and leave comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lLqBpi-mPU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 07, 2010, 02:48:52 AM

Thats okay. Keep trying when you can and something will bound to happen. Rome wasn't built in a day!

 ;)

J.

Thank you!
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 04:05:43 AM
Sparks im sorryy i missed that drawing do you know what makes that implosion explosion work?
Its the drops into the bucket when there droped in
the steam is imploded for a slit second
then expanded rapidly
its both energies really it perfect it implodes the pistons puls it over top dead center then the steam explodes pushing it the steam then
exist the to top generator thats a execelent drawing
the only thing is the drops have to be timed with the piston
some how the joe cell does that i havent got that far
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 04:20:25 AM
Please post that on my joe cell thread
so people can understand implosion
the steam maxes out but its stil hot
when the piston pases top dead center the next drop cools the steam
implosing it the rapid vaporised it can be very little at exact right timing infact Im like 99 percent shure the current in a electromagnet does the
exact same pulls right before it pushes
thats what i beleive joe taped
both sides of the coil energy
of the electromagnet when you advance the timing its before top dead center the energy of the gap is pulling the piston at the end of the pull it pushes
it im going read more on the joe cell
but maybey you guys can help by seeing
which points the magnets pulse pulls and pushes upon
how the spark is i know the energy flows
easier by pulling the piston then jumping the gap i understand some not all yet but i will this doesnt seem expensive
or very electrical maybey something i can do 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 07, 2010, 04:57:32 AM
A frame = a=aluminum
valintiness day the 14
silicon periodic table 14
the antigravity lifter aluminum foil
what does silicon and aluminum do?

Alumina-Silicate is the metal-material they recovered from an aliend crash-site. they dont know how to make it. despite the best chemists in the country..

Al wont bond with silicone, which is why i gave you the chemical formula a few pages back
about your Aluminum-Salt-Foam,
in this ionic state, there may be a way to bond with silicone.

dont give it to the govt.
if you figure out how to make the Metal,
sell it to a company called  M-3
they make sponges and chemicals... they'll keep it in the public sector.

and of course tell us, because we'd all love to electrically boil saltwater and aluminum, mix in some sand and make a funky-space-metal.


ALSO::  the silicone, in certain crystaline structures, will vibrate in resonance with the aluminum when its electrically charged, amplifying the field.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 05:27:00 AM
Are you jokeing or serious the salt water disolves aluminum at alarming rate
its like so fast its insane i turned a soda can to paper
ill mix the silicone i didnt notice your message about it im celebrating my ion jet rather only 12 people veiw it or not
the aluminum disolves like sugar in water ill just mix the silicone boil the fn
water over tge limit make the gas and wala
what the hell does that make
i know how to do that the exact time to put the silicone in shit i actualy disolved half my rock i know that to
but im drunk better not tell to much if its a secrete
ufo formula but seriouslt what does it do email
me i go well shit i would go buy some silicone but spent my last dollar on. This beer did anyone ever buil a jet from aluminum can before or just me
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 05:37:58 AM
Im not stupid i know im the first one to ionize aluminum i did some research kinda laughed at the chemist telling a guy how to disolve the aluminum
from some mold he made with firberglass
it was a slow dumb process
i can make this silicon aluminum
i know how theres no acid i make the acid
all ph is equal to energy
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 05:55:24 AM
Fuck im out beer damit im going wwrite this
before some gov mtf comes nocking on
my door already three weird guys today
silicon is energy like oil like i designed the warping
the oil for the oil for the oil spill obama rejected
stupid ass you know i not only warped that oil i turned it to light
ya watch my videos that dispersement is stupidest thing ever
but part of this problem too
when you try to disolve alumnum it takes a acid
a acid neutralized the oil so the two will
never bond because there oposites
you have to seperate the aluminum specific gravity while still
charged with energy now theres no acid
positive positev atract as soon as i put the silicone to the
aluminum it will bond infact it will probly bond as i seperate the aluminum
and the sand will just remove both energies its a radiaiant absorber and wala
hey did you know beer is a single cell
chlorophyl absober instid of a sand we can absorb it in
beer chlorophyl is a radiant absober
hey maybey thats why he has that dam rose bush 
a silicon aluminum rock like probly under that coral castle rock
i dont think you should test aluminum
oxide gas in your house i started seeing double but it was cool
i was seeing dislex and regular that was amazing
i thought seeing double was a trip how bout seeing dislex and regular
at same time that was cool worth the day in bed to recover
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 06:25:11 AM
Well dont feel out place your over my head and i juust built a jet from aluminum cans why do i only get the real
complex shit like sparks explains to me  what is pmh
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 07, 2010, 06:42:22 AM
Well dont feel out place your over my head and i juust built a jet from aluminum cans why do i only get the real
complex shit like sparks explains to me  what is pmh

Hi Cletus - I agree with you.  It's a rare thing to have such a careful experimentalist and always appreciated. 

I think a pmh is a permanent magnet holder.  It's Leedskalnin's 'u' shaped magnet with a holder. 

Kindest regards,
Rosie

 ;D
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 07, 2010, 08:56:50 AM
@ Loner

When you have a 'magnet', its oscillating at a certain freqneucy, based on the frequency of the ferrite, and the strength of the magnetic field.

When you induce magnetism into a piece of metal, the field orients in response to the field of the ferrite.
When the metal is sustaining its own field (with no magnet)
it oscillates at a different frequency.


About the turns of wire::  if you use a thick wire you can do it with less turns,
at 600v, you dont need a lot of turns, even with a thinner wire
but thin wire with 12v battery, you need to increase the resistance, so you get more B-field than Heat.

if that makes any sense..
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Low-Q on September 07, 2010, 12:34:40 PM
I haven't followed this thread very carefully, but I was reading "frequency" and "magnetism". So I will suggest you use litz wire to convert high frequency current into magnetism... Single wires suffer from the skin effect at high frequencies. So many thin and separately insulated wires might be a better choise?

Just a though from thin air :)

Vidar
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 04:32:25 PM
@sparks i think thats why my jet worked so good i changed the metals to match i assumed the frequency of the copper snd frequency of aluminum
were different hutchesion sais when two energies fight
in the neusleus over the same energy then
thats what the power factor is in the neucletus
so if the energy from the inside matches the energy on the outside the north chases the south so is magnetism simple changing the outer electrons and neutron to equal the neucleus creating any other object to becom
the proton and electron so a magnet is the neuclues
does this make sense
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 07, 2010, 04:37:46 PM
@ Low-Q

will this "litz wire" perform the conversion in reverse?

turning high-frquency magnetism, into Current?

if so,. then dave should perhaps use this in his tubes??

----------------------------------------------------------

@ Cletus

Now you got it.  And thats how magnetism manifests itself as
physical matter.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 04:56:32 PM
So beings i did
gravity= frequency magnetism temparture
ill now do
magnetism = neucleus energy matches outer electron and proton
                 
And ill do being broke sucks

So all life has magnetic feilds a magnet
those feilds are magnified by flowing in a diection
of north and south but if the north is receiving
energy the sout is giving energy
the only way then to discharge a magnet it to
short the two energies or enter them into feilds equal
which is not impossible but dam near
so now we understand the magnet is the concentrated
energy and the free flowing of energy all the time
that can never stop all we have to do is learn to use the feild
better i beleive the ion propulsion thread
i did is the best start to understanding this
and then unserstanding when you
take energy from the what did sparks say
- entrophy the - side of the magnet the positive side gets stronger
so if we can ubderstand what will continualy
take the negative introphy say maybey water
then the positive will continue to pull
electrons or protons and those can go thru the
tube like sparks was explaining line up
to be used as light or power before tgey reach
the magnet then it will go thru the magnet to the
negative ibtrophy this is why moray sometimes used his
battery to start the flow of the negative entrophy
i hope im right I think I am and I pray you understand
because I can build all this on my own
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 05:08:55 PM
Maybee daves device is a type of magnetic amplifyer
not in a sense of magnifying the magnetism
but in a sense of controlling the flow a reverse
generator instid of pumping frequency thru a wire to
create energy it would do the opposite pump frequency out of the magnet
creating the negative entrophy i think we really have the answer
if that device can countinualy pump the energy out of the magnet back to air
the magnet will continualy pull more energy can that device do that
if it can thats like amazing does it have to spin
or can it pull energy stationary
if its sweet sixteen I see why its pumping the 8
so its pumping all energy from anything making it a magnet
to absorb more energy so that thing is like a black hole
the light glimmer must not come from the device but from
the air energy around it being absorbed to it
man this is really cool 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 05:35:15 PM
Mann im like on a roll this morning so
the water can take the negative entrophy
to a point it becones a magnet because the aluminum
disolves is the water seperating the
specific gravity negative entrophy
of the aluminum but then the aluminum
then adds to the water the water becomes a magnetic plasma
at which point the aluminum no longer wants to disolve but then
expel the jet the only way the energy can flow is in thru direction
or steam but the steam stoped in one test after boiling point turning a contiual gas but not evaporating at that point if more water is added
it absorbes more energy to steam so
i think the water can be used as negative entrophy till it builds the oxidization
to become magnetic fluid it then becones the neucleus the steam is repelled like the magnetic poles the condensed water
can be added back to increase the negative entrophy
because by condensing its lost energy to air
then it is added back it pulls more energy
by increasing the negative entrophy
and evaporates again so its can be used as a continual
negative but how to add it to daves device
im not shure seems like it would be the same thing in reverse
taking the energy from air makes the
steam evaporate on its own that sounds like the process
but doing it at a pace that boils the water
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 05:51:36 PM
I think were missing a part we dont see
during the removal of energy from steam back to water
there would be a snow flake but because the tempurature
is warm the fourth season is so short its like it never happened
hot water steam snow cold water
we dont see the snow thats the answer
some how daves device would extend the fouth season
sorry i feel lost but i know im right let me think
about this its because it backwards
its hard to think backwards
ok i got it
daves device would not create steam
in the water it would run like a joe cell
cooler its not pushibg electrons into the water but removing them
this makes tge ice the energy is then removed from the air the till the point the ice melts it turns to steam on its own and recircles to the
atmosohere and if its in a relative warm inviroment this does not ever turn to ice but a cool running joe cell car
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 06:11:41 PM
How does a magnet made from daves device
react to a standard iron magnet made from electricity
seems like there opposites to me
one would be two seasons and one would be the other two
and so you would have four poles
of magnetism the four seasons
daves should be fall and winter and a regular magnet should be
spring and summer the way you should
be able to test would be four magnets
two if daves and two regular magnets
put them in a circle of four then flop between
daves two and the two standard
magnets fall and summer
with winter and spring
that should line summer up with winter
and spring with fall and none should touch
ya i think i just did the imposible in my head again
what that does i dont know you cant flip the other way it has to put summer and winter together to prove daves magnets are winter and fall oposites of regular magnets 
 
and
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 08:14:57 PM
Hope you asked about the helix
theres only two helix
then the star of david
david Lamberts device is essentialy the star
its the center of the wrong rodin coil
what it would wind around its creating daves magnetism
and dave creating the coil there almost exact oposites
its really facinating to me to see this war
of math and energy like tesla and edison
all over again its between oil and electric
trying to understand coils and magnetism
relating geometry and numbers shapes and power
religion and myth frequencies and
numbers the only thing not debated is polarity
and I brought that up polarity is not
+- even odd are 1 and 2 energy 
not -1 +1 that seems like the biggest
mistake to me but it doesnt change anything I guess
except the way people veiw it Im kinda trying to understand
spark quenching the gap and pressure bulbs
then i think i can build this moray valve better
i wish i had silicon maybee later i get some money
id like to make that rock under the revolving door
theres spray silicon at hardware store is that the right stuff
   
 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 07, 2010, 08:33:59 PM
hi everyone!...what is litz wire and where do i get some?...also, i am trying to locate some tubing made of different metals....zinc, lead, bismuth, titanium...i have a bit of mercury, 4 pounds, if i froze it i could make a torus...too complicated....or what if i am going about this "wrong".....i think i might try putting metals with the oxide, in small amounts...i took a bismuth crystal, bought from OMSI, and filed it to obtain some small pieces, mixed it with the Fe3O4 i already have, and filled& packed a 4 or 5 inch piece of clear vinyl tubing...using a little bigger tube, i cut a 1/2" long  section to serve as a coupling...i put the ends together, making sure the tube was filled with the mixture....20-30 wraps of transformer wire, thin copper, and energized like a PMH.......this works but the best lens effect is still with the ferro fluid core device....another one i made from 1/2" corrugated SS tubing, 3" dia. that seems to feel almost like a centrifuge?[steven mark?]...i have to test that more before i say for sure...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 08:43:10 PM
Sparks can you or someone explain this
if i can tune the wireless trasmission
like this i can light the bulb without changings the gas
or understanding it right shouldnt i be able to
do this i think this is my answer to why i can turn motors but not light the incandescent
please if you understand it email me
ch@helpuflip.com
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYgFuUl9_Vs&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Sent from my iPhone
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 07, 2010, 09:06:24 PM
Hi Cletus.  That's a neat link.  Thanks for that.

Regards,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 09:18:41 PM
Sorry dave I just read about this tesla black box
it has to be as stupid simple as a antenna these
tubes tuned in with either this inductance
thing and one end goes to water to another antenna
tesla must found a way to tune these tubes without
changing pressure in bulbs im going bust fhis you wait as soon as i understand this frequency changing thing
this is like his crystal must be its tuning the 8
the natural resonance to the bulbs the bulbs to the watts
and wala power i did this when i set my
moray valve to dual antennas from the ground
but i didnt understand sparks bulbs tuning
or this but im getting close i couldnt tune the antennas or the bulb pressure if this can do both i dont see why it wont work
just have to get the caps charging which should
has anyone got a tesla coil tower that lights those
flourescents with frequency we need to hook
the capacitors up to those bulbs when there lit
and figure the way to get them charging
the caps then when i figure the tuning out to the flourescent
or incandesecent will be done with this mysterious black box
that free powers everything 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 10:23:19 PM
One day while very mad at God I told him everyones Going to ask me
if im chosen by you whats the answer to aids
he told me be fruitfull and multiply
the earth its piv = hiv
I did not know what piv was but I wrote it down and posted it on my
videos Today I found this Link
and Dave I hope your device can get
this testing done
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-E6SqrH4_Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 10:44:01 PM
A magnetic feild making a black hole
absorbing all light so cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbzBTdU7iRU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 10:59:53 PM
Im kinda trying to learn today heres a simple magnetic viewer
made using oil steel wool and a white background might help
not shure it was new to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuA-dkKvrd0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 07, 2010, 11:26:04 PM
@ Dave

could you make a video or at least some pictures of your
three-inch tube? maybe try dangling a tiny piece of metal on a string nearby and show what it does?

Also, if you could put it on a scale, to get the total weight, that would be great.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 07, 2010, 11:46:30 PM
The way i understand is tesla changed the
resistance of the air thru the tubes
adjusted the inductor to match
bouncing the caps which is the spring and turned the motor in
reverese unlimited energy by inputing a antenna
Im 99 % shure thats what he did based on sparks
explination and my reading of these notes on the bottom
of this video im trying to understand he bounced the spring with the always present radio waves the friction in the air
tuned those with the inductor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZNnwQ8HJHU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 08, 2010, 12:02:29 AM
@ Cletus
Al + salt usually takes a long time. and most of the AL will oxidize before that happens.
Adding electricity forces the reaction to occur.
more electricity, the faster it happens.
its kind of like electrolysis, or the catalytic converter in a car.

And Sand = Silicone
   yes sand, like at the beach. they use it to make semiconductors. you can seperate it by colors, but its all pretty much silicone, with some impurities..
theres also Rosequarts, and magnetite(ironoxide),in there which you can seperate with a magnet.


-----------------------------------------------------------

The Magnetic Viewer:::::

ive tried all kinds of these, and this is the one i use, ive found it to be the most detailed, and most acurate viewer out there.
for some reason they dont show up very well on camera, but you can clearly see the magnetic field.
and theres many many more "lines of flux" than you get from other viewers...

so here you go..

get a Grinding wheel, just regular shop grinder.
clean it up, make sure theres no dust and whatnot.

and get a piece of hard steel. doesnt matter what kind some of mine are stainless.

place a plastic container underneath and grind it so the particles fall into the container.
(wear goggles and gloves, and use caution...)
collect a nice ammount of steel dust.

now, get two pieces of laminate
dont get the self adhesive kind,
get the kind thats made to be Heat-laminated

now, what you want to do is, take some lightweight oil
not olive oil because it degrades,
but any light cooking oil will work. also ive used "machine oil"
comes in little bottles with a spout.
shit expensive, but its great stuff

put oil on a cookie sheet,
the smaller you can find the better, i use a 1/2-sheet thats a little bigger than the sheet of laminate.

now, carefully mix in the steel dust with the oil.
i use a rubber spatula and just mix it around, then spread it back out.

you want a lot in there. not so much that it gets thick, but you want to not see very much of the bottom of the pan.
you can make 3-5 of these at a time, so you dont "waste" your oil-dust

but basically, you put a border of tape around the edges of 1 side of the laminate.
then dip it on the pan so the whole inside of the tape border gets coated with oil.
let it drip for a second, then flip it over and lay it flat.
now you need to move quickly at this point, so it doesnt spread too much.

Have your HOT iron (clothes iron) ready and next to you.
on a flat HARD surface. i use the kitchen counter...

quickly peel the tape off, position the top sheet
and iron the edges to seal it up before the oil spreads out to the sides.

now you have a perfect viewer, they last for years if you dont screw them up or lose them.
if it doesnt behave the way you like, you can add to or subtract the ammount of steel vs oil you put into it.





Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: dllabarre on September 08, 2010, 12:18:26 AM
-----------------------------------------------------------
The Magnetic Viewer:::::


Nice idea!

Thank you
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 08, 2010, 01:32:22 AM
Im lost on the aluminum silicon
im getting way confused
do you like have something against emailing me
ch@helpuflip.com
i guess i dont understand the problem
or if im just stupid you said the top chemist cant mix aluminum
and silicon then the aluminum is sand ok so why cant it be mixed 
i dont understand im sorry i can mix it
this i know  im just so confused I dont understand the problem
or the importance of it maybee a email would clarify things for me.
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 08, 2010, 01:38:53 AM
Smoky im sory i got you mixed
up with hope but im still lost on the problem
im way frustrated to right now trying to
learn and write comments on the tesla black box
and my youtubes blocked again from all
electrical sites how they do that i dont know
it makes me very mad
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 08, 2010, 05:46:33 AM
Rodin ROKS!   Hey anyone with a Rodin Coil    please "Barr" it like a PMH and charge it.   DOES it still have vortex flow!!   I think it may.   Please tell us if it works or fails.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 08, 2010, 07:10:26 AM
Ill input on the magnet being a crystal
yes everything is a crystal when say iron
is polorised if the magnetic theory i did today is correct
between hutchesions work and mine
the nucleus equals the proton and electrons in a magnet now
a u shape magnet has a dispruption in ion flow the air
its not a perfect crystal well it is but it will not read
perfect this is why the ion flow is interupted
thru the medium in which its rainbow
ion transfer is in testing its the tv in fluid its movement
in oil its atrraction the point is every material
when magnetised will have one frequency
not 3 or less lets put it that way it may well be three
but 2.1 but if you can use the inductance
I showed in the earlier video you should be able to find the frequency
of any magnetic/ crystal the frequency at which the ion flow is actualy moving will be the material in which its magnatised
does that make sense? I feel like im saying a lot I dont know if im helping
because my input is not product. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 08, 2010, 07:51:06 AM
@ Cletus

what you are saying is correct, when it applies to a magnetic current running through "non-magnetized" material.
like in the PMH
the frequency of "free iron" and its inductance
presents itself at ~281Ghz

But in the case of a permanently magnetized ferrite,
the inductance is proportional to the magnitude of the field.
Which is used as a % function of permeability.

These are two entirely different quantities, and as such the frequency of "magnetized" iron will be different than the freq. of "free iron" that is being polarized by a magnetic current.

the iron in the PMH settles in at its own magnetic amplitude.
which is why the input power doesnt really matter.
if its not enough it wont turn on.
if its too much you'll magnetize the metal,
but "how much" you put in to turn it on has really nothing to do with the amplitude/freq of the field

When the material becomes a magnet,
the input power DOES affect the magnitude and freq.

i hope that all makes sense...
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 08, 2010, 10:18:16 AM
hi...some interesting observations...using a sony handycam w/ niteshot, in darkness....my oxide ring looks like there is glass or plastic in it .....3 reflections?.....and it messes with the auto focus and image stabilizer.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 08, 2010, 11:11:42 AM
hi...some interesting observations...using a sony handycam w/ niteshot, in darkness....my oxide ring looks like there is glass or plastic in it .....3 reflections?.....and it messes with the auto focus and image stabilizer.....david

Could you drop some of this footage on the Tube?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 08, 2010, 12:24:20 PM
as soon as i get access to a card reader, i will upload some stuff to my youtube channel...what i really want to capture is two oxide rings about 3" apart...a colored vortex starts to appear, but is more subtle than the radiation effect......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Low-Q on September 08, 2010, 12:46:40 PM
@ Low-Q

will this "litz wire" perform the conversion in reverse?

turning high-frquency magnetism, into Current?

if so,. then dave should perhaps use this in his tubes??

----------------------------------------------------------
Yes, absolutely. I am talking about quite high frequencies. Any time you break a current circuit in a coil, it will appear very high frequency components the moment you switch it on or off. These high frequencies will convert into electromagnetic radiation if you do not take care of the skin effect. Using litz wire will prevent this from happening and instead conduct all the energy through the wire and to its destination.

Vidar
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 08, 2010, 05:10:59 PM
Yes, absolutely. I am talking about quite high frequencies. Any time you break a current circuit in a coil, it will appear very high frequency components the moment you switch it on or off. These high frequencies will convert into electromagnetic radiation if you do not take care of the skin effect. Using litz wire will prevent this from happening and instead conduct all the energy through the wire and to its destination.

Vidar

I was thinking more along the lines of using the litz wire to pick up the magnetic radiation from around Dave's device, and convert it into electricity....
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 08, 2010, 05:53:58 PM
If you understand this may help
I found this today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36n3ycOXWvM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
if the input power is put in first thru the same material
the frequency loss is contained in a ceramic like the car coil
i dont beleive your frequency would change with power
if you look at the seven circles understand
the seven is the 8 the center point
that puts 4 corners of the earth
fall winter spring and sumer into
12 months the next rings
if you split those into 4 seasons
you have 2 polarities winter summer
do not align spring and fall do not align
if you now have you 3 in 1
three loops in one circle ill get the cans again
I forgot the math on the callender i fixed ill
see if i can find it for the next rings
the days 
 

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 08, 2010, 06:18:00 PM
Here youll apreciate this
I fixed the callender
So the day is actualy 12 hours
And God called the morning and the evening the morning were the second day gen 1:8
2x350 =700 /2 days equals 350 days a year 
So 144,000/350
=  411.428571
Which equals 6 days + 6 = 12 months=
12+8+5+7=32days a month which leaves you with 1year and thus you find all the numbers in the Bible are now unlocked 
Ocording to this the next ring is 32
ill try to figure out why
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 08, 2010, 06:23:03 PM
Ill try to line them up
its because were going flat line
6 is tge inside but the center is 7 and 8
8x4 seasons is 16 16 two sides of earth
sweet sixteen complete is  32
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 08, 2010, 07:07:48 PM
loner...i do not think you are off topic at all...please post any/all your ideas that you would like to share...even if you think its off topic, i would like to hear what youve got to say.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 08, 2010, 10:12:47 PM
Hope I know your either real frustrated at me
or just confused between marcos math
and the coreect math there both correct
marcos math is in my math his just does not
include pie or the 8 its more complecated
then that but i tried to do two simple videos
explaining ed marco myan teslas 369
the 144,000 all in two videos if this doesnt
have your answer you need nothing does
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxgYccCpaH0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzr-Jhdjnjw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

good luck
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 08, 2010, 11:41:51 PM
Dave you asked about antigravity Bugs
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cZEWab8cxo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

not shure how it works yet but have a idea its close to my ion
jet the the top is sealed theres no air flow thru
its some frequency ion movement that stops at 1000 feet air density
if you can find the frequency that stops at this level
will be close to its operating range
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 08, 2010, 11:45:02 PM
What bug flys 1000 feet up from ground not
a mountain altitude 1000 feet from dirt
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 09, 2010, 12:07:17 AM
I seee a link why did our bee population drop in half why is goverment really spraying chemtrails to make bees
possibly
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itjqNelz5WU&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Sent from my iPhone
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 09, 2010, 05:24:42 AM
update on my new build

i got all 12 pieces of the inner ring cut, filed, sanded
and cleaned up.

need to decide how far to open the gaps now....

[The magnetron ring is not part of the build, im just using it to hold all the pieces, and it makes this kewl Searl Effect]
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 09, 2010, 06:22:50 AM
Smoky I met with my brother I had him look over the math and the concepts he said i should finished the star
im going work on that tomaroe
he said the cut when paralled equals offsets the
5 cursed myan days and the 6
i hope you watched the videos
i posted and i figured out from
another arthur young the demntiond if the 8
are like this 878
the center not 87 so the cener is held together by 7
there is no 7 theres two 8
88= 16 16 =7
so the 7 is the perfect number the day god rested
its a rest or bond not shure how to explain
the 7 its created by the third dementions
on a line 8 on one side 8 on the other
7 is the middle
sorry i got a mrsa infection again
on my scalp stupid drs it might be in my brain
better say some prayers goverment at there best again
dam fucking me up fast
oh read my antigravity post its the bee
the stinger is the antenna radiation
antigravity cant wait to test i put some
sugar out waiting for bees to come back
oh and my brother helped me understand exactly how to bond that
silicon to alumium email me again if you have a lab or rose ill tell you before these fuckers kill me i did teslas black box sent it to lid
hope he understood i need a inductor if anyone has a extra
how much are those i read about a one wire inductor but havent seen it that would tune the 369188
if i could put the inductor in the 1 loop not shure how those work yet
why didnt someone explain that to me?
Seems like it would tune the frequency to anything
not just earth cant wait i got some things I plan to shake a bit
oh how fun when im done learning all this stuff
if i live maybee I solved enough so Gods Going to tske me home I hope
that be nice
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: dllabarre on September 09, 2010, 06:43:23 AM

if i live maybee I solved enough so Gods Going to tske me home I hope
that be nice

HE will take you home when your work is done here on Earth.  :)
Don't stop your work here.

DonL
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 09, 2010, 06:48:30 AM
So the black holle is the 7
10.   2 7 all the verses of moving the mountain
and mustar seed
10 1 loop two polarities
of 8
think of it like hutchesion
when 8 and 8 are on both sides
7 is in the middle the 7 is free floating did you see the first video
how the 8 moves around thats the whole concept but
split the 88 one below one above tune the frequency
like hutchesion whala antigravity
now just need some experiance and some exquipment
i think you still need daves device
to have the negative introphy on one 8  you know why
when you warp you can only go as long as your power source can hold you like hutchesion pushing things with the crystal
when its auto perfect pulled and pushed
its no longer streched the energy specific gravity stay the same
inside thats my theory and in sticking to it eds the only one to warp things in one peice and leave them the only way you can leave them is if the negative introphy is controlled so how does that silicon aluminum do that on the door
is there a rod into that silicon that transfers the 8
to the top that rock like if you put a pipe in a circle magnet
it would magnetise would it change gravity around the pipe
well it must if it becones a magnet and holds something to it
now what if you had two pipes on on inside and one outside the magnet and
a magnet top and bottom which way could you pull the iron
up down side to side seems like thats antigravity to me
four electromagnets could float about anything
inside a tube just tune them but if you had 6 on the side
one on bottom one on top you could repel pull turn and rotate
yep thats cool well good night all
 
 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 09, 2010, 07:19:41 AM
Don you got a key those that got a key to string theory look close at the ceter box you see the pryramids from every angle ok that box is impossible to implode you know why the strength is equaly distributed
back from each side fllow the triangles rememer the middle dot is the back of the bottom and front of the top of the box
so heres what i did hope this helps explain teslas black box
the myth busters proved you can oscilate a swing all the way around but they missed the phsyics the reason they did it was the chain was switced to a pole so when you cross half way the energy does not fold but help in
place by the rod where the chain would go
that allows the swing to maintain momentum
but they missed the best part if you
changed the rod above you head when your on the swing to a fiberglass
bending pole then when you cross half way the solid rod stores
the energy to the fiberglass now when you get going all the way around
your bouncing the fiberglass rod but tesla tuned the light bulbs with the inductor to bounce the fiberglass rods with frequency and spin the swing
thats the key to the physics of what tesla did
im going need help with the electronics but i got this one
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 09, 2010, 09:36:25 AM
Dear Jet,
In the hopes that you subscribe to this thread - I wonder if I could ask you to read your pm's and get back to me.  I can be reached at ainslie@mweb.co.za or on these message systems.  Whichever is easier.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

Guys sorry for the intrusion.  I'm having difficulty reaching our member here.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 09, 2010, 09:38:01 AM
update on my new build

i got all 12 pieces of the inner ring cut, filed, sanded
and cleaned up.

need to decide how far to open the gaps now....

[The magnetron ring is not part of the build, im just using it to hold all the pieces, and it makes this kewl Searl Effect]

  ;D Sm0ky - that rig of yours is SMOKING.  LOL.  VERY NICE INDEED.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 09, 2010, 10:10:18 AM
I did the 888888 found the matrix for this code was on tthe coral
castle video dont know what the code is for i dont have a book
it looks like three frequencies
anuways the code i got was 71296105195
so I have the matrix for that if anyones knows what it does
ch@helpuflip.com
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 09, 2010, 11:27:09 AM
Woow ok guys got a message from God I guess
some one sent it to my phone as a hacked
text but i tested it was not the sender
Once the circle is spinning and after it bounces back and forth lIke the tesla coil with magnet in the middle which is the first step then it will spin  in a circle  and chase itself indefinitely until it is broken but it can easily be broken I gunk that's why they wouldn't let the coral castle pAtent be given because when the magnets are in a circle chasing themselves the way to stop it only if it is unpowered is with a single magnet on the outside of the circle in any magnetic force following itself would be a single magnetic force either of positive or negative but not both however I am unsure if a sudden stop would be possible or even wise which is why tesla's box was shot only other way to stop it is destruction of itself just thought you should know and also instead of being harmonically stable with the most usable power output if you keep it constantly offset where the sonic harmonics would fight themselves equally you might need two in the box for this the would constantly be at equal odds which would cause the harmonic balance to offset gravity read this carefully I believe this may be the difference
so here a bunch of info
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: gravityblock on September 09, 2010, 12:07:17 PM
How to make instant hot ice, http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Hot-Ice

Make an ice cube sink with heavy water, http://www.wikihow.com/Make-an-Ice-Cube-That-Sinks

Use a vacuum to freeze water in less than 90 seconds, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOYgdQp4euc&feature=related

Dry ice, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_ice

Let's not limit ourselves to just freezing the water and melting the ice in the conventional way.

GB
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 09, 2010, 12:09:47 PM
hi everyone....@jesus...@jetijs...try viewing in a very dimly lit room.....let me know how this works!...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: MasterPlaster on September 09, 2010, 12:14:52 PM
Here youll apreciate this
I fixed the callender
So the day is actualy 12 hours
And God called the morning and the evening the morning were the second day gen 1:8
2x350 =700 /2 days equals 350 days a year 
So 144,000/350
=  411.428571
Which equals 6 days + 6 = 12 months=
12+8+5+7=32days a month which leaves you with 1year and thus you find all the numbers in the Bible are now unlocked 
Ocording to this the next ring is 32
ill try to figure out why

@Cletus,

You are wrong my friend.

I have attached links to some old writings that may interest you as they contain a lot of numbers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UukVS-tcqa8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uk5OD-uwbo&feature=related




Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 09, 2010, 12:25:18 PM
I solve the over unnity circuit
in math 7 makes 16
16 is two 88
8 makes 7 and 1
7 makes 16 16 is two 88
7and1 16 88. 7 7 11
7and1 16 88  7 7 11

7 16 88 77 11
7=16 88 77 11
7=16 88 77 11
7=16 88 77 11
but the 1s multiply 7 always breaks down
to 1and6 which is two 8 sweet sixteen
the path is straight and narrow
the 1 so hope you see marcos 369
9 always becomes a 3 and 6 no over unity
ya free powers just around the corner
i smell the stone soup a cooking good
 
 

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 09, 2010, 06:47:43 PM
I dont know how and what point these messages should go private
i feel many of these questions hold answer to your prodjects
some of your are in really far science and
some are not the callenser i did is the way i understand i relevant to the very structure of everything the time at which the planet
moves the time on earth and callender change as time becones no more the
time is the center as tine here on earth becones no more
the time elsewhere extends the reading of the book of enoch
in the video are included in my geometry i did for you
the six stars make the seven the seven holds
earth in the middle these are where the angels were cast
the great split is the grandcanyon
I have not done the 7 mountains in rev
soI cannot tell you were those are you can discharge a black hole
with water and only water the larger it gets the more water
the geometry i did when i finsh the stars like my brother asked shoukd put all the gaps around them for you the Gaps tesla put in the motor
the gaps edd put between the generator wheel
if you look at the message above the magnets have to be in offesting harmony what does a air coil do offesfs harmony
what if you built the air coil in seven it would have eight gaps
those wound in the 3 6 9.1 8 8 but did them reverese spirals in series
then wound another with iron around the zink
then your getting close to the sweet 16 you would actualy need 4
like lazer sabers wheel i beleive has four magnets
if you had four coild you would have two polarities
instid of 2 polarities turning four magnets
laser saber joined the two 2 1 one each side
thats the two halfs of the body theres four half two end wires two people  the basicaly having intercourse over his wheel I dont know where to put all this its
off topic of radiant but the coils radaite
how they radiate is the answer when enoch is replied there cast there
based upon there sins thats the polarity of each star
the amount of frequency of each mountain the points of the star
bind the center the amount is not determined why because it can be one soda can in the middle or a bunch spread out   
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 09, 2010, 07:30:19 PM
You confused enoch 365 years with days
3=12
6= 5+1 32days  1 year
5=14= 77==1616=32
its right no matter what you throw at it
it really doesnt matter unless your in wrong
math
3=12
6=1. 5
5=14
    365 


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: void109 on September 09, 2010, 08:57:21 PM
Just a few things I've tried:

Filled two lengths of aquarium tubing with ferro-fluid, one about 3" in diameter (once sealed in a loop), and another around 7" in diameter.

I've only pulsed the smaller, wrapped with 30 turns of #26 magnet wire against a 12V battery.  I did not see any effect at any point, it did not affect my compass in any way, there was no indication that anything was out of the ordinary.  I hit it with all durations and polarities of pulses trying to get something tangible to observe.

Also, earlier I had said that I cut up some ferrite toroids to see if I could link them in PMH fashion, and failed.  Yesterday however, I took a flat piece of steel and one half of a toroid I had split, I sanded the toroid flat at the cut locations, and it links to the steel very easily and strongly (wrapped the half ferrite toroid with about 15 turns of the above wire).  Interesting is that when I remove the ferrite from the bar, neither piece has any residual magnetization that I can tell.  The ferrite that is expected, but I figured that the steel would have some reminence (that's the right use of the word right?).

Also when linked I was sliding it down the bar, and it would remain stuck for a bit, but after crossing a certain threshold it would detach.  So it seems like the magnetization of the steel is only in the location in which I linked it, and doesn't follow it as it moves.  This is a sketchy observation and I'll be more thorough next time to confirm that.

I owe some videos, I've been lazy about it, mostly because nothing has seemed exciting enough to bother recording.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 09, 2010, 09:59:51 PM
@ Void

i think you may need a thicker wire, or a LOT more turns of that thin stuff.

But just so we're on the same page,
slide your coil off of the tube, and test it with the compass
to see the magnetic field you are making.

wether or not you can achieve a constant magnetic current through a fluid has not been determined, but at the very least you should have some activity within the fluid while the current is turned "on" from the battery.

hope this helps.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 09, 2010, 10:07:59 PM
@ Cletus

what is the significance of  8 5 7 1  ????
it keeps comming up in every direction.
42   8571         42    8571     42    8571
i know what the 42 is, thats everything


i drew this. its in 2-d, it should really be 3-d,
but im kinda pressed for time and my art sucks anyways..



Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: void109 on September 10, 2010, 12:05:17 AM
@ Void

wether or not you can achieve a constant magnetic current through a fluid has not been determined, but at the very least you should have some activity within the fluid while the current is turned "on" from the battery.

hope this helps.

The compass most definitely jumps around when it gets pulsed, but once the pulse ends it settles back to north.  There was one thing I thought interesting in this regard (which may be completely normal), that's if the compass is resting above the loop which is laying on the table, north always jumps toward one side consistently.  If I raise the loop up so its above the compass instead, it always jumps the opposite direction.  I found that a little confusing since given its a ferrous loop core I thought 1) the field should be contained within the fluid, and 2)  see point one, no really I just realized I didnt have another point :)

Anyway given that fact I was having, err am still having trouble visualizing what kind of field the pulse is creating to cause that.

Back to pulsing things!
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 12:08:02 AM
8571
its 12
85=13=4
71=8
4/8 1/2
or 4+8=12
its also
8+1=9
5+7=12
9+1+12=12
been trying to bust that shit all fucking day
maybey you gave me the numbers im trying to
find the code that breaks the 9 with the 1 
into the 7 and 8 then you can make matter and
dissolve matter if you can bounce tge compas which i remember one test did not shure wich one
you can bounce this spring and oscilate the motor backwards
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZNnwQ8HJHU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 12:16:45 AM
Smoky imagine a bar across two pipe one on each side
your polarity swap to four  n,s
nsn,sns maybee that helps
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 12:27:11 AM
Ya that turns it to 8 nice
1 circle is two halfs that stupid black hole marco couldnt get
those halfs go over the two pipes proble cut one pipe in half
stick it in those cut of two pillow theory
i had to make a theory why the pillow gets
hot and cold a double v 
goes n,s sns,nsn=8
now just have to figure the math still
why do I always see the answer first
then try to solve how to do it im so fucked
backed wards im probly getting younger as i go thru time
lol
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 12:36:30 AM
Smoky
i messed up
12=3
9+3=12
but this is why i dont understand 42
its 24
12/24  i dont know what gives you numbers
i can see why its 42 different veiw but
42 is not half of 12
oh it is 42=6 12=3
1/2 its right
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 01:56:59 AM
Wtf
991x56,000
5549, 6000
5549/9=616.555
6000/9=666.666
dam fucking devil always fucking geting in my way. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 02:03:41 AM
616.5
666.6
adds to 42 im tripen now
5+6=11
6+6=12
6+6=12
1+6=7
11+12+12+7=42
wtf does that do
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 02:13:38 AM
Dam that puts him dead square in the middle of earth
1.2 1/2 i should go to bed i mean sleep
oh cothin or what ever this video is
the dust particles if you point a pencle at them go anti gravity
pretty dam high if they had continual antennas to them
like bee stinger you could fly with dust like the video says
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cZEWab8cxo&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 05:22:59 AM
Smoky i think there a proplem when you doing the
math just to fix it seriously i wish i could post all
my work but who knows what weapons are in it
or what it does i forgot the numbers you asked i cant see them
while typing but 42 is the out side of life
its not the center of the matrix
your numbers are in the middle
or coming from the middle the exact cross is
89
 7
98 its real complicated
24/9 2.6 =8x144,000=1152,000
42/8 5.25=9x56,000 =.294,000
         This 9 is from 5.25 294=9
144,000+56,000=200,000
 this is part of the matrix
i have not done 12 but 12 is in 144,000
11 is in 56,000 the only part you dont see it the
7  in middle
42/9 = 4.66 +16=7 this x 144,000 still 7
42/8=  5.25 .25 =7
        525,56,000 5+2=7 556=16=7
its pretty involved so many ways
9x2x2x2x2=144
this was my last one real important and simple
8x7x7x7x7=2744 27=9 44=8
    9+8=17 =8 I dont have a clue what they all do
seems like you do hope they help one day
ill probly understand why they do
everything in the patterns
 
         
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on September 10, 2010, 05:31:56 AM
cletus - remember those patterns I sent?  The one circle and then the next of 6 and the next of 12?  Well a friend of mine has sorted out the relationship.  If you continue adding 6 to every new circle you get perfect increments and perfect symmetry. 

SO.  It goes like this.  first circle - then same size +6 = 2nd circle - then same size circles + 6 = 12 = then the  next circles all using the same same size as the first circle and it goes like this. 18 = 4th circle - 24 = 5th circle - 30 - 6th circle - 36 - 7th circle - and so on FOREVER. 

His name is Riaan Theron.  I think it proves pi because there's a small 'gap' between each circle.   I'll see if I can find that picture and post it here.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

EDITED The number sequence was out.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 07:04:33 AM
Rose slow down dear the reason im asking you is pie is a loop
a helix when the inside rings are moved to the outside rings it expands and implodes thats the geometry were looking for
i got the helix circle today when i fifire out how this 123
can in the middle moves its does not need
more cans to be added it grows
on its own a ring inside a ring inside a ring
the reason is the first energy never equals the second energy
if you had two rings 1 say 10
and 1 say 20 both has 100 drops of energy
the first ring woukd have 10 drops
the second would have 5 drops
even though there the exact same
expanding the rings put the energy different between any two points
of 5 thats what were trying to do figure out how to
magnify the energy from one ring
thru  infinity at the end of infinity jump the gap and have
a very large power difference  if its a ball
you must keep adding cans your not flowing the energy
from ezekials wheel from inside to outside
back to tge center when you do that your loop to the center is always
more then you pull out im one can off
from the proper movements in at 3
887 i got figure out how those 369
join with the 887 to make one can in middle
when i figure out that one can we have the answer to everything
you can test testing may give you the answer
i didny buikd the ion jet till i started lifting rocks
i got the helix though i cant see your whole message or picture on my phone
we will get this ill ask God maybee ill have it by morning
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 10, 2010, 07:12:38 AM
i get to 42 form the 6 and the 7
but i dont use the matrix
doesnt make sense i know,. hard to explain..
im basically having to convert into the matrix
turning my circles into squares
to get to where you are

i hope i dont mess this up, but let me try.....

24 = 2  4
24 /2 = 12 =  1  2

1 + 2 + 4 = 7

24 / 4 = 6

6 x 7 = 42

Now, i believe the question you had was "why?"
its very simple, and you already know, you just didnt realize what it meant.
Theres the 24
then theres the Opposite 24

oh wait, but thats 48 right?
wrong. in our part of the universe the 8th 6 does not exist.
(the missing 8 )
it goes straight to 54
we dont have 54, we only started out with two 24's
so what we have is Seven  6's
whcih is 42

in the quadrant directly opposite us, the 8th 6 would be present, but they have no 4
its the 5 and the 9 thats missing in the other two quadrants.
and in the "center of the universe"
they have all the numbers.

but none of that really matters because our quadrant extends further than we can see, much less ever hope to leave.
so to say there is no 8, is perfectly "correct" as far as it concerns "us".

but basically thats why theres only 42 instead of 48
theres 24 that we dont normally see or interact with.
this is the opposite of what we experience as "dimensions"
"opposite" forces if you will
and 3 from each side go away when they combine.

its the "twist" in the fabric of the local universe, they fold in on themselves and become a finite line through a single plane and simply dont exist in any dimension that we experience.

the 3 that manifests itself as energy combines with the opposite 3 to become the missing 8th 6

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 07:17:29 AM
Im pretty shure jesus dies at 32
thats the number i hsave to add
the cursed myan days in the 5 days
32 is 5 its in the middle of the matrix
actualy a corner i half way saw it today just could not put it together
a lot going on for me with this mrsa and
all these antibiotics ill figure it out
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 07:28:53 AM
I think its because the helix is going around in a circle instid of
from the inside out ill try to reverse the
helix direction which way does dna grow
in a line or a or a spriral line thats the answer
im prety shure 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 07:39:05 AM
After 9 month the baby is born after 161218
the 1 is the sperm the six is the egg
the after the egg grows to the 18 ring
it no longer is a ball its born into a
life and breath why marco was stuck on breath
which I told him was carbon which i knoticed carbon was 42 sonething in a video the structure of the six is wrong
build 2121 so 1 can flop over then 2 can flop
its not 1221 after birth we are all born into
sin 42 the math i did earlier
21 21=42 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 10, 2010, 07:50:34 AM
@ Rose

Thats the beauty of matrix-based geometry.

you can use the same formula and maintain symmetry throughout virtually any proportional size of any circle.

for instance 6 + 3 = 9 which is 1.5 the original size
6 + 9 = 15 which is 2.5 the original size. That continues infinately as the 1/2 fraction. you can do this with all possible fractions, but it gets complex the more complex the fractions get.. (redundant?)

you lay this all out on a grid, and starting with either the problem or the answer, you can find what you're looking for with any circle.
the gap is Pi, because like i showed you before,
the circles are squared.
----------------------------------------------------------
the ancient civilizations resolved Pi by using geometrical conversion.
Basically, a polygon with the proportional dimensions of Pi,
will hold the circle/sphere of that size/or fit perfectly inside it.

from a historical standpoint, the inside/outside of the circle was "regional" for the most part.
some used the inside some used the outside. some say potato,
some say potaughto

But they all seemed to know the Pi was missing,
but inherently knew better than to try and calculate it out and include it into the problem.
they accounted for it in another way.

This simplifies the entire equation into a simple route across the matrix.
Whereas, for us today to be even within a comprehensible degree of "perfectly accurate"
we would have a decimal carried out onto 16,000+ sheets of paper.

11k years ago, they would have added up 4 single-digit numbers
divided two simple fractions
and constructed a design of |perfect accuracy|
that would baffle our modern minds.
(physial construction methods excluded,. though those may be mind-baffling as well)

Its like, two completely separate branches on the technological time line. The entire basis of science and knowledge evolved in an entirely different way in at least one previous "advanced period" in human history.
The way we do things is not the only way things can be done.
To truly understand how all of this stuff ties together, you have to go back to the foundation and rebuild your knowledge using the different rule-set, the fundamental components remain the same. height, width, depth, weight,
but how they are applied to the mathematical formula takes on a completely different appearance, and results in the same answer that we get using our more complex, less accurate knowledge-base.








Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on September 10, 2010, 09:31:08 AM
  I did this head trip once.  Suppose you develop ominpotence and dont know the first thing about being in pieces.  So you say Ill put little piece of me over there.  Now there is no there at this point you have to make there.  So you conjure up a point.  Just this thought of a single point.  Now you do it and you look at it for awhile and its pretty boring.  Its just a point scource.  So you go about working on bunches of points and realize all these points are still stuck together in that first point.  So you say think well at least I got something I can see that is different.  And at least it is and there is a there.  Let me imagine up different theres.  Different theres start springing up everywhere.  Hmmm looks pretty much like it was before everything is still all the same it just there everywheres.  Well what if I take these theres and make them into bigger and smaller theres.  This there wont be the same as that there.  They will be different theres.  So you make one there over or under the other theres.  Ah now the theres are relative to each other.
Lets see from the first there all sorts of theres start to take form.  If I take a there I can start creating dimension all relative to my first there.  I can have as many as I want because well I'm in charge of me so Ill create a bunch of theres that are all duplications of the first point scource but are just a little different.  Just different enough so a line appears.  The line and a circle are the same it is just a path through theres.  Well thats cool.  I got a line and a circle but hmm they are still looking alot like my first there but at least a line and a circle are coming into view.  Well what if I take a different tirp between the theres.  First I go and observe these theres and then I observe those theres.  Direction thats what I can do I can direct my consiousness through different paths.  I can go along the line this way and then go back to where I started looking and then start to observe those theres.  I have a vector.  I have a line and now I have a vector.  Now lets see if I go this way then that way then this way then that way I can have changing vectors.  This is cool because every time I change vector I can locate see a difference between that there and other theres.  Its like I can stop seeing all the lines and circles as being the same and when I take a different consious path I rest on a definite there.  This thing I call resting will be named zero.    It will be unlike any there it is the rest position where my consious will project from.  From this there I will choose my vector.  What will be different about this there is that it will be called where where give birth to a new vector.  Hmm now I can either be resting or creating vectors.  Ah that makes it different between when I am resting and when I am vectoring.  So what should I call this vectoring game.  I will call it motion.  Hmm at rest on the zero there and moving in a vector until I rest on another zero and change diretion of my attention again.  Those other theres I move through while in motion should have names.  They are just as good as the first there so I shall name them as I go along.  Hmm this will be alot of names.  Perhaps I will observe them and name them according to how they differ from the rest point where I change my direction of consciousness.  They will be named time.  These theres will be named time.  As I direct my consiousness from observance of vectors and resting theres in between will be called time.  As I move my consiousness between resting and observing I will move through time theres.  They will all have the ability to be zero points as I will be able to rest on them at will.  Hmmm.  I have motion as I vector between zeropoints I now can direct my consiousness from any zero point.  Along infinite vectors emanating from the zeropoint I rest on.  I will rest in the zeropoint and go forward into motion of consiousness along lines of motion and rest at the point I call zero.  Hmmm.  I can move in consiousness from any zeropoint of rest into motion along vectors until I desire to rest.  Then I will rest at zeropoint and change consious paths as I move/  I will radiate my consiousness from zero point and return to zero point to radiate my consiousness again.  In so doing I will name all that I become consious of time.  There will be consiousness of time  as I move my consiousness along vectors emanating from the zero point.  .  I will call this movement of consiousness through time theres from the zeropoint to when I rest on the zero point an interval.  Time consiousness along vectors of motion from zero point to all theres will create finite from infinite.  I will create time intervals.  I will create frequency.  I will be in infinite forms of consciousness and will create all that is.  I will time.  I will seperation of consiousness to experience me in all my infinite forms.  Some resting in the zeropoint some radiating through time but always of my consiousness.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 03:45:51 PM
Maybey two steps forward
one steps back
jesus dies32
16= 7 but 7is7and8
12 +8=20
12 is32 but you need those cursed days
but this is wierd jesus dies and rose again
in 3 right sorry mightb wrong memory prob
3 is equal to 3000
the 369 1 day is equal to a thousand
so if we remove 3 days 2 can come out the center
the 8 im not shure yet typing to rememer thats puts us two stepd forward 1 step back would one circle then the helix should release 1
and hit the other side release those two
hit the oposite the helix where it came from
so the egg  is 3 1.2 but 12 the sperm is 78
make a whole 2 halfs the body 144,000,56,000
im curiousif anyones ever done ratio of
insides the egg the fluid to yoke when the sun
never rises and i sleep eternaly then I will enjoy life
every day I awake is like being born back to sin
a miserable hell while im at it remind to to tell obama im our
debate that he can refer to me by my
number the same as this gov always has
the state ca by my drivers number
and id like to refer to him by his
if he has one.   
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 10, 2010, 05:02:28 PM
@ Cletus

theres no set ratio of an egg.
Yolks vary greatly within a given species. It has to do with rate of development, and the health of the parent.
even with the same parents, the animals may hatch "more grown" than the other. Even an unfertilized egg has a different yolk to albumen ratio than another egg sitting next to it.

The Egg starts out as a single cell, encoded with the genetic acid sequence of its parent. the cell divides many times, and forms into the "shell" and begins forming a membrane inside.
as it expands the albumen fluid cells begin forming and dividing.
then a single cell forms in the middle. The Yolk.
the yolk cell divides and multiplies with the egg as it grows.
the yolk too forms a membrane around itself.
which it uses to eat the albumen (fluid) as it grows.
(eats more once it becomes fertilized)

Ratios can vary from egg to egg,
generally the inner mass is between 1/3 to 2/3's yolk

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 08:13:23 PM
Theeee middle is the stem cell
the pattern im not done with
8 does exits its 1 in the center
wich is 16=7 can
in middle
so two 8 make 7
1-2-4 8splits to two 4 fils in 4 of the six
on each side that leave 4 in the middle
those now can leave the middle and fill
2 on each of the empty holes on both sides the original
six cans thats about as far as i got
144 is the middle looks like splits in
8s to me its pretty hard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 08:43:24 PM
144 1doubles -2 doubles to 4

144=18
3 rings of six when you remove the center
fuck all this which came first the chicken or the
egg god made the firsf day a 7
7x6 42 fucker never worked a day
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 11:16:31 PM
Maybee this is wrong place to vent but when
you understand 6 is the seven
7x6=42 the first day a six
then you see that the answer to life itself is
not in the math even when perfect it can answer any
question but it cannot make the questions
and the question to life itself is the 7
the 42 and this is really not funny anymore
this if the answer is not in math what is it in
by the way fortytwo =8
this video is really not funny
if i Could Kill God He would be dead right now
but im stuck in these dam loops with marco
in a bubble that cannot implode or explode
but only every action is a reaction
if i could turn my brain off like a tv
i would do that right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aboZctrHfK8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 10, 2010, 11:52:26 PM
What im tryiing tooo say is you can have a secret key to the universe
infact the lock probly wouldnt turn if there wasnt some with it
but you can never understand the universe is the secrete
will always be untill the stars invisible stars are shown
you cannot see time travels who are invisible
and you cannot see stars that are clear
or invisible how ever you want to put it
so the universe is the secret and you
will never have data to reverse engineer it
beyond 42 without understanding theres
invisible forces spirits frequencies
waves ect and till all the unknown
things the human cannot see are detected
with devices like daves like infered
piv the universe will never be understood
unless God himself tells me the answer
i hope for that till then I guess life is just that you cant die
its always eternal heaven or hell 6 or 7
when we cross over we must see the other side
but you cannot see both at one time
your invisible like during einstiens warp
of the flying platform or bermuta triangle or like the guy
told me that built the boats you can see them they cant see you
so even when your invisible you cant see another invisible
unless its in the same field this is why its einstien
unified field he was trying to solve the calculations
between invisible and real life to see both
put the whole universe together but
I do not beleive thats possible in math
him and tesla and ed discovered or saw
another force not equatable in math a force i see between the matrix
but dont understand example 1 can in center is 7
because it has 6 around it but seven
splits to two those two cans are now 88
which is 16 which is seven that seven
can is between the 88 but its not there
its made by the 88 88 are in the next dementions
no longer flat but there still one line between the two 88
which makes a invisible seven in the middle
a force you cannot see the two makes the 3
the three is the invisible 7
the 8 splits again to 4444
which still makes 16= 7
but between the 4 is now 3
invisible again 4343434 which make
25 still 7 so the 3 is the seven
and invisible numbers give you
7x3=21 the exact center of each
side of 42 the 210 the causes earth quakes
the matrix keeps going but whats the point
when you have the answer already
now you see the problem is no question
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 11, 2010, 12:44:03 AM
You literaly have to do like sparks said
basicaly calculate the zero the invisible
take earth completly apart and
put all the dots everywhere
maybey if i start with 42 cans try to imagine
how and where i can make invisible
forces the gaps in the pipes
maybee some how that will unlock it
maybee i already did this happens a lot
I solve things just dont understand
maybee thats what this is about understanding the gaps
in the pipes the controlling the force with nothing
making a energy from nothing
making the radiant from a gap
the number not there doing something
maybey we can calculate the gap 
how to use them to do impossible
if you have a force that doesnt exist between to forces that
do then theres a way to make those from that force
this does not solve my problem but it
probly helps with the energy stuff but if you can only define the force by the present then how can you possible make something
from a force you cant define
what im saying is theres a force between the sun and
earth you can calculate
but if theres no sun and earth the force does not leave
but how do you calculate it with no sun or earth
its inbisible and has no two points
but still exist its always present
im shure you guys must see what im getting
at the magnet have a force between them
that force does not leave its always present anywhere
you put the magnets and im saying its still there with no magnets we jist dont have a way to measure it without a tangible object
now this is quite a concept to try to understand
that life itself is just a measurement of the force
of 42 but 42 exist with no life if we had a reverse matrix
of invisible forces then still have 42 with no
tangible dots to measure it this is like dismatling the philidelphia into the force moving it and putting it together
he made the field around the ship putting it into
the invisible bubble made the ship 42 and operate in the
radiant fields so it essentialy can go thru anything its in the firce not the tangible it is the field not the magnet
what can it do when it cannot inplode or explode
disolve or create cathin from the flying platform
that said to be antigravity is the dead bugs he says its a star shape
and thus between that and celulose you cant destroy
so what im getting at is when the structure is right
its cant implode or explode it can only travel time
becoming the force so when the numbers are lined up
perfectly there not the answer but the structure allows it to operate
from the fields of nothing but there is no fields of nothing
because there is numbers and those arnt going away
so when and if some one could possible match the invisible forces to
the universe it would disapear back to
nothing back to the original face of the deep before God created it
but thats like impossible because the invisible
radiance you cant see well didnt mean to type so much
maybee it helps maybee im nuts
probly both   
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 11, 2010, 02:36:24 AM
If you think about it backwards mabee
it will help a magnet is not the energy but
a measurement of two invisible energies
the more polorised the magnet the better the measurment
of the force when the magnetic fields become equal to the force
they go invisible when a feild refuses to be magnetized
its a pure clear water cannot hold a feild
or measurement of it except the fact the radiation going thru it is prismed
so but its only prismed when its a steam
or impure so like a compass is a measurement of the magnetism
the magnets are a measurement of the feild
for example i drove by a intersection
every time i noticed that it was harder to stop there
i looked over after this a realized there was the big giant electric
motors like agg pumps but there was like a hundred
i realized that was pushing the whole truck
right at the point i was braking
very interesting observstion
because i was going between a always present field of energy
flow not seen or heard but very strong
my truck was like the points to the invisible feild
i thought wow if that feild was much stronger
it could push this truck all the time but where would it go
then i realized it woukd go to the point the energy was flowing to
from and to then i realized hutchesion
was directing the energy the invisible field
to manipulate the truck but what if the magnets were in my truck
and they flowed back to the truck
where could i go i would be repelling off the energy around me
this is the basis of my ion propulsion jet
but whether it would go invisible
would probly depend on the amount of power to it
and how well it was built its essentialy what einstien
now im facinated with the things i cannot see
i must be crazy matrx with no numbers
i want to know whats between apple 1 and apple 2
its not a 1.5 a 1.5 i could see its a matrix of invisible 
 
   
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 11, 2010, 03:01:46 AM
The conclusion is understanding radiant energy has just begun
because even if you had a sun and earth
you have a field you know you have a field but if i turned the sun and earth
invisible how would you find or determine the feild
thats how you solve the mystery of the 42
the things you cannot see 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 11, 2010, 03:52:33 AM
I know im blowing this up i hope
its making sense or im going look like the biggest
idiot if you can calulate the field you
can determine the strenth of the magnet
backwards not the feild from the magnet the magnet from the field
its going to start with calculating
how the light makes the field in reverse with no magnet
just ion flow 
how the light bulb propulsion generates a field
then how much field is needed to move the light bulb
from the plasma and then the plasma has contual field enough to
drive the light bulb anywhere   

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 11, 2010, 04:53:04 AM
FLUID is a damper to HF, I would try to wrap the aquarium tube in wide strips of metal foil (ferrous).  If you charge coil with a switching circuit that can stop the charge and connect the coil ends.  the charge stays like a pmh   (ALL coils) must be closed)  If you cannot get it to "effect"  there is to much space between the ferrous oxide, plug an end with some kind of filter, warm the fluid and blow in the non filter end ( a vacuum pump on filter end would do better) to compact it and still allow movement of alignment.  Also making those metal foil strips wide at the beginning and narrow at the end will change things.  Stick with bifilar and it may not matter much.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 11, 2010, 05:11:49 AM
Dam i must ate too much food I got gas
hasnt been this bad since i was 9 or 10
I dont know if that liquid turned
to gas or my stomach is just messed up
from all these antibiotics its always
like i have good period and bad periods
but i did do the the first phase of the invisible 42
i hope you get it the black hole is now the dot
the exact center of invisible it took teslas 333
to break the right side every time i think im onto something new
i see these genuises already been here
 12000x56,000/9/6/3
 4,148,148.148148148
Left side
4+1+4=9+8=17
1+7=8+1=9
9+4+8=21 
Right side 
111=3
48=12=3
48=12=3
333=9+4+8
21
21+21=42
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 11, 2010, 05:14:43 AM
21+21= 33 also
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 11, 2010, 05:17:17 AM
Also in your number groups are there any 5s next to 5s or is it always 45 or 54   this may signify changing of polarities.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 11, 2010, 05:28:16 AM
Yes 456
46 10 = 55
so 46 centers 5
so if you had a 46 you get a invisible 5
in middle
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 11, 2010, 05:36:37 AM
Just thought id mention im doing everything either in my head
or on paper with those cans because the computer
code is based on 1-8 I beleive and
the programs can be locked down by inputing numbers it cant calculate
now i heard theres codes to make up for random
generated errors but that seems stupid
i know how to write the program in the right codes
but that would cost someone some money
beings im broke and computer is not a necesity for free power
but toys I should deserve some income some time
they will need to build a better chip
maybey not dam that would mean i would have to try to explain it
never mind ill stick to being broke and giving answers
explaing its too hard 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 11, 2010, 08:40:09 AM
I dont know much about inductors bot im trying to learn
this guy a a interesting plasma
i think i could make that fly like my ion jet
just need to understand it then the ozone would take you to space
because i would be making ozone instid of steam
maybee some help i could do this if i took the bulbs reverses them thru
frequency tuned it with inductor bounced the caps at the end
of the one wire system if i knew how to wire id be on the moon already
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7akUQ9luhw&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Sent from my iPhone
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ALVARO_CS on September 11, 2010, 10:37:15 AM
@Cletus
may be this can be useful for your maths analysis
It is related with GURDJIEFF and also with the Sufi philosophy
cheers
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ALVARO_CS on September 11, 2010, 10:41:35 AM
Sorry for my poor english, (spanish is my first lenguage) I don´t now how to translate the word "ENEAGRAMA"
Observe the absence of the 1, 3 and 6
cheers
Alvaro
EDIT: I apologize, I meant the absence of 3-6-9 from the circuit
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 11, 2010, 05:49:08 PM
Hope remember what i said if a truck goes up a hill and you drop the hill
just before the top you then are taking tge energy
from the truck going down the hill biy also the energy holding the truck up
before it continues to jump the gap of the hill
i just removed i think this circuit or drawing does that
and if the weight of the truck is the electricity going thru the wire
the hill is the resistance of the wire when the resistance is removed
the trucks velocity still jumps the Gap the spark gap now how do you add
the force holding the truck up to the top again
well hope you said jump peak to peak ill examin tgis drawing
more but i see the double oscilation of the energy from the top of the hill being remove before the truck still takes is normal path to the ground but if you convert the energy holding tge hill up from behind
you to infront of you then you can move mountains
by manipulating the wave
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 11, 2010, 06:51:10 PM
@alvaro cheers who is Gurdieff
this is amazing work
lets start at the top
9
81=9
72=9
63=9
54=9
top right
91=10
82=10
73=10
64=10
10splits 555
right top
12=twelve
93=12
84=12
75=12
12splits the666

Right side
23=5
14=5
95=14=5
86=14
14splits to 777
bottom right
34=7
52=7
61=7
79=16=7
16splits the 888
bottom is reverse of the top
wait no the 9 does split down
56=11
43=7
11+7=18
so 18 splits the 9 goes to middle of two 9
instid of around it what is this a antigravity
formula
anuways i dont know what it does but ill continue
54=9
63=9
72=9
81=9
but 87 is 15 +12 =3+15=18 999
bottom left
65 =11
74=11
83=11
92=11
11 splits the1 111
left 76=13
85=13
94=13
13=4
4 splots the 2 222
top left
87=15
96=15
15 =6
6splits 333
id say last but I dont think there is a last because
it goes wider then two
but 89 =17
17=8
62=8
53=8
8split 444
so what does it do makes the numbers it splits invisible
but beings 9 splits the 65 and 43
it must make the whole thing invisible
very cool ill search this gurdjieff guy
see what I can find
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 11, 2010, 07:03:12 PM
You know some times i think i give my work
credit to others like this circuit could just be
a led circuit i have no clue but then mabee I see
more in it then most or add to it ill searxh this guy and see
what I can find he probly knows more about this then i could ever dream
who knows
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: tagor on September 11, 2010, 07:47:50 PM
Sorry for my poor english, (spanish is my first lenguage) I don´t now how to translate the word "ENEAGRAMA"
Observe the absence of the 1, 3 and 6
cheers
Alvaro
EDIT: I apologize, I meant the absence of 3-6-9 from the circuit

 
"ENEAGRAMA" is enneagram
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 11, 2010, 09:25:36 PM
That has really got me thinking about
is this pattern the key to the force
itself 9 does not jist split 18
all numbers split each other and
for example 3 is the middle between
7and8 because 7 and 8 make 15 which is 6
six splits to three three
which puts the 3 directly across in the middle
three 3 three
but if you go reverse it goes
87 17= 15 69=15 15 =6 24=6
6 then splits three
 The exact oposite on the outside
but the the exact same wow
this is insane what can it all do
this is like the biggest mathmatical
discovery ever its like impossible to explode or implode
its the matrix of the invisible and
full numbers a joining of everything
why he left the lines open between
its insane the bottom is
65 43 =18 look at the top 18
what is 18? 9 its so simple
23 =5 86 across=14=5 14 splits the 7
can anyone find a error in this anywhere
i think its bullit proof
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 11, 2010, 11:55:03 PM
Because  9


64 =11.     43=7
 
11+7=18
which splits the 9 but where does the nine
actualy land
11-7=4
11 is2
7-2= 5
im trying to do the rest the dementions
as well
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 12, 2010, 10:59:11 AM
From what i can tell the math is incredibly
perfect but the structure in which it lies
is wrong there no helix or repeating parterns or
even design some how i have to incorporate it into
the string theory design to have the gaps
between the triangles filled perfect with numbers
how its so perfect is amazing it goes much farther then
1-9 it goes probly farther the i can do
i should make some videos but i dont know
if thats best as the numbers in wrong structure would give the wrong result
im a little baffled by the complexity of both
and how they for example if 1-8
=72 its not a circle but it would work in the string theory
if the 1 and 8 fliped over the 9
to create its own triangle equal to the 72
i probly need help with it someone who can add the waves
the numbers are pulled between as they travel
say between 65 is 11 as that line goes to 1
its pulled by 74 still 11 but over by 1 stretching the line
how do you calculate for this im not shure
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 12, 2010, 11:09:57 AM
Maybee this stretch is the curvature of
space time if the time from 11 to 1 is changed relative to the number
it passes through it would speed up and slow down
depending on the stretch but still land in the same spot
samd ultimate time but what that time would be
would not be determined by the strect but the amount of
energy 7 and 4 have a magnetic filed stronger
the 83 then it woukd slow time and speed up
as you travel thru the field the same as passing a magnet
it pulls you in can hold you or push you
the strength can determine how long your held pulled or pushed
so maybee we now have the formula for the space time field
i just have to put it together somehow
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on September 13, 2010, 05:24:34 AM
  An equilateral triangle can be rotated to form a circle.  You get a star of david from a 180 degree rotation.   I have seen this geometry thousands of times in various forms of symbolism.  Unfortunately triginometry and calculus and all the rest of modern mathmatics is based on the rotation of an equilateral triangle creating a circle.  If you look at the below sphere inside a pyramid that the pyramid contains the sphere which contains the equilateral triangel that defines the sphere.  You can not contain a pyramid within a sphere.  You have to create two pyramids containing two spheres whose poles can then be rotated to define a circle which then is contained within a larger pyramid with its twin then able to be rotated and define a circle on into infinitety and in the direction into a single point.  This is the life symbol.  This is how things grow.  The equilateral triange divided in two and the pathagoream  theorum and all the mathmatics based on this theory will never explain the life force.  The expansion of consiousness because it is unable to be relative to anything in a state of flux. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 13, 2010, 05:30:19 AM
Its a math system of faith
Faith is believing that what you don't see evidence for exist
its a matrix of faith the things you dont
see its really cool I wish i understood it
all I think im going to call it faith based
mathmatics in which any number you chose
can be another number through faith
between a 65 is a 5.5 a 11 but
wait 11 is 2 and 55 is 10 but 10 is 82
but 11 is a 6.5 to get a invisible 6.5 you need to split
a 76 because 76 is 13 half 13 is 6.5
so 6.5 is a 76 ill do one circle
bless you with the pattern
and leave draw these in a circle for now
till im done
9,5,10,6,2,7,3,8,4,9,5,10,6,11,7,12,8,4
there you go so lets pick 9 in the center
you can do any number but because were
flat well do 9 splits 45,=9 108=18=9
36=9 117=18=9 72=9 12,6=9 810=9
and last 54 =9 being your last number
i wont do all 4 but just pick 4
98=17 =8= 444 go all the way your
back to 89 maybee ill do a video
it probly needs about a weeks worth
to even try to explain faith based math
system
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: truthbeknown on September 13, 2010, 06:29:37 AM
Its a math system of faith
Faith is believing that what you don't see evidence for exist
its a matrix of faith the things you dont
see its really cool I wish i understood it
all I think im going to call it faith based
mathmatics in which any number you chose
can be another number through faith
between a 65 is a 5.5 a 11 but
wait 11 is 2 and 55 is 10 but 10 is 82
but 11 is a 6.5 to get a invisible 6.5 you need to split
a 76 because 76 is 13 half 13 is 6.5
so 6.5 is a 76 ill do one circle
bless you with the pattern
and leave draw these in a circle for now
till im done
9,5,10,6,2,7,3,8,4,9,5,10,6,11,7,12,8,4
there you go so lets pick 9 in the center
you can do any number but because were
flat well do 9 splits 45,=9 108=18=9
36=9 117=18=9 72=9 12,6=9 810=9
and last 54 =9 being your last number
i wont do all 4 but just pick 4
98=17 =8= 444 go all the way your
back to 89 maybee ill do a video
it probly needs about a weeks worth
to even try to explain faith based math
system

All the comments are interesting BUT haven't the past couple of days or more strayed away from Davids original topic for discussion? Just noticing.

J.  ;)
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on September 13, 2010, 07:04:24 AM
   Below I drew a line at 12 oclock on the circle.  I then trunkated the resulting pyramid.  This leaves the parent pyramid intact containing the original sphere.  Then I raised the newborn or seed pyramid which is an exact duplicate of the parent.  This seed pyramid can only grow and enlarge into the size of the parent if it meets a second seed pyramid.  Then it can join rotate define a new sphere and expand until it becomes the same size as the parent pyramids.  I can only truncate the pyramid at the zenith of the spheree and get a scale model of the parent pyramid.  For some reason this was done on a dollar bill and an eye stuck in it.  I think the eye represents the ability to observe or be consious.  This flying pyramid top came from the parent pyramid below.  In it we see a large sphere encompassed.  The consiousness or life flowing from the lower to the upper. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 13, 2010, 07:07:15 AM
It. Would apear yes the original
topic is so complex and unknow
its literaly forced a whole new set of
math to define it how a radiant energy is made
from a Gap that is the math in which
im working i know it very complicated
but the edges of the pipe make the
gap so the gap is in esssnce faith
a force in which you cannot see but we know its there
so how do you calculate the radiant force
or the size if the gap now thats where
stems cells can change to any number
but radiant numbers the invisible force
can be any numbers as well but when you understand
that pattern of the radiant numbers then you can create
the same radiant from a series of numbers
you can essentialy build the life arround the stem cell
its way to complicated sorry its probly is a distraction
ill try to limit it to videos. But im not very smart
and help from rose and sparks that know more how to use the
math is probly the only way it can be done I really dont know
how to do it some how I get the answers with no problem
and have to make the problem to the answers
I work in reverse like tesla I guess I see the finished product
first then try to figure out the pieces to
the puzzle the gov took my brothers
phone and computer so I cant get help
finishing this its called 4th demention but
I think i took it more I did a lot of calculations
so much i think its now above me or needs a
second person to push the envelope to create the problems
for me to solve I did the outer ring sparks you can fill in tje string
theory with it but im really strugling on the
star the decimals seeing everything in
all dementions is very hard i think it has to be broke down
so its easier understood where the radiat energy is
like the radiant energy between 7,8
is 15,6,7.5,7.5, 12,3 its more but ill
stop the radiant field is made up like tge stem
cell it can be any numbers so do things like
magnetise aluminum possible heal
people who knows what all it can do
its a invisible field that can change
numbers fluxuate i guess I dont know how to explain
it. Just trying to do the math for the field
so its understood ya testing can probly
do a lot but if the matrix is done right for it then you could just build it
to make the field you desired thats what im trying to do
its not easy maybee i cant do it. Im trying   
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 13, 2010, 07:16:43 AM
The space between pyramisa i hit to
when the 45 flip over to the 54
i dont understand how the 45 and 54
can connect yet its the 5 cursed days
and the 4 is the box the 5th is the peak
its the interlock but i dont see it yet
sorry i cant read all your message tge picture
blocks it on my phone im stuck in bed
fighting this mrsa
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 13, 2010, 08:08:12 AM
the astroturfing is getting pretty heavy in here.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: truthbeknown on September 13, 2010, 08:16:36 AM
the astroturfing is getting pretty heavy in here.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing)

David Lambright......save your thread!


J.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 13, 2010, 07:21:37 PM
The circle is perfect so when the numbers
align its magnetism the electrons and protons
=neclues so any pipe is a circle of energy
the gap = the numbers out the circle those
seperate frequency of numbers that cannot
circle in the ennegram he seperates the 9
but you can seperate any number or series of numbers
i did 3 videos 30 min Ill upload when I can
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 13, 2010, 10:17:17 PM
here is a drawing of the magnetism the cut in the pipe is where the line goes thru two numbers you might not understand why they go thru some but they do perfectly for example why does a 10 go thru a 65 well 65=11 11/2=5.5
5.5 =10 so 10 10.
7-23 23=5 2.5 2.5 25=7
8 thu 34 =7 3.5 and 3.5 =8 8
I think the rest are easy enough write if you have questions
I dont know if this is what einstien refered to as unified field but its perfect every direction there is no holes in I I call it Faith based mathmatics
because you can beleive there is any number and create the others from it
you can essentialy see where the light goes from the bulb and back to the light I dont really know all It can do its not in the string theory patter but I think Its because as life moves numbers change but they always stay in this pattern  it pretty complex the center ring is on the outside of daves device lining up the numbers like 333 then that would split taking energy aligning the energy in the next material
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 13, 2010, 11:39:11 PM
I have the flower done
i will try to draw it in paint
but the cut takes the energy fills it to the
center where the missing number would go
as soon as its unstable the nucleus cast it back out
so like puting a object over the cut the energy is sucked to the middle
then you need to remove that object
discharge the center and then refill it
the cut can be moved anywhere to any
of the frequency due to the doubled power on
outer ring you and they all lock on teslas 369
well maybee could go any of them i did 369
it was easiest
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: void109 on September 14, 2010, 12:53:39 AM
I have to concur.  It does appear this thread is in the process of becoming or has already become severely derailed.

To add to the original purpose of the thread, I did want to report I have not yet seen any of the observed effects.  But I'll be the first to point out I havent created an identical replica yet, just PMH holders of the U + keeper format, as well as some experiments using ferrites and ferro-fluid setups.  These were done on the assumption that I COULD replicate the effect if I followed the original, so I thought I'd try something new to contribute something new, but given my lack of success I'm going to do an original replica next (galvanized steel pieces).

Thanks David :)
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 14, 2010, 01:23:52 AM
here I made som flowers for those that think im over running the thread
cheer up you can have flowers every day now.and if your goverment fuck off
everyones getting the answers
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 14, 2010, 04:00:28 AM
Ill try to explain its perfect
start at 9 ok what is 9/2
4.5 whats next to 9 a 45
what is 45=9
next is 8,10=18 what is 18=9
12 and 6 =9 wht 12+6=18=9
or 12=3+6=9
72=9
11,7=18=9
6,3=9
10,8 =18=two 9s a
49=9 and a 9
thats only one direction
you can go anyway
its perfect lets do hell
7 is split by 12 and 11 why
because the middle of 87=15 /2
=7.5 a7.5=12
but what about a 11 well 7 and 6
is 13/2 = 6.5 =11 on outer ring
how do i get 10
56 =11/2 5.5= 10
its perfect filled in the gaps the polarity is exact
so back to 7 12and11 =5/2=2.5=7
8 and 6= 14 splits 7
10 and 4= 14 
95=14
59=14
10,4=14
6,8=14
and the last two on the otherside is
23=5=14 or 5/2=2.5= 7 which everway
you veiw it its perfect
any number goes completly around back to the exact

Number yes you can call me a drunk
but i put it together and its perfect anyway around
and it 2.1 the outer ring is 2 which is +
the inner ring is one which is -
if you dont get it ill keep trying the only way ill get better is to try to explain
it the more i explain it the easier it will be i just built it today
so ive only explained it to one guy in person
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ramset on September 14, 2010, 04:08:53 AM
Tush,
I always wondered why we didn't have more members from California,
I don't wonder so much anymore!

If you were speaking in tongues ,you would probably make more sence.
Your thinking to much Bud ,your gonna pull a muscle [a brain muscle ]
Take your meds and get some rest!

Chet
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 14, 2010, 04:46:15 AM
I made a typo 45=9 the 45 or 54
on the bottom not 49=9
i know its different math
but it uses no subtraction no
multiplication only divides a few numbers to find
the exact center between two other numbers
its perfect i wish I could do it all in
one video maybee as i get a bit better at explaining it I can
it combined teslas 369 eds 88
einstiens the myans everything together
including Marco and its perfect every direction
every number why did I do it I dont know sick in bed
and dont have tv no ones paying me Im just helping
for free maybee one day our kids wont be slaves to oil
or this Goverment maybee because they failed
me twice for not memorising my multiplication
because i always wanted to know the numbers in between
not the answer I hope you take the time to look at it
and see how simple it really is its the answer to everything
even life stem cells planets gravity energy
its all in there I didnt put that the three numbers that split
each circle add to 18 so it repeats
I wish I could say it was 144 not 18
but i just dont see how I can prove
144 is different then 18 besides the codes you get
from 144,000. The only way is it takes
three calculations thats 000 each loop is a calculation
so  the top three is 495 so they add to
18 but you have to add all three but
energy always takes the short loop so
move 1from 5 to 9 its 144
the next to the right is 1062=18
the botom right is 738=18
the bottom is 594=18
the bottom left is 10+6+1+1=18
top left is 7 +1+2+8=18
so the circles repeat in 18
devided perfectly amoung the seven circles the 7
days the and when you take the very center
and  add the 954to 18 you see you have
6 days with the 7 8-1=7 x6 =42 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 14, 2010, 06:31:07 AM
If I couldnt do it in under 10 Min I guess it would been to hard for people to learn but I did it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cn871D8NTE
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 14, 2010, 07:59:31 AM
Maybee you dont understand what I did thats ok
I guess many dont need math to do
miracles in things me I solve math just to solve
it there was really no problem I think it helps a lot
of things having the right answers now
to tell you the truth I couldnt even use
it I dont know how I know sparks and rose and hope
probly do or some computer program
or maybee if I was Given a problem
I could Give you the answer but I already did
Its the answer to everything except it cant make questions
I was hoping it helped thats all. If it doesnt
thats ok sorry I did my best. I tried to explain
why the cut works it fills the Gap in the middle
the energy depending on the number you want you
would cut the gaps in secuence like if your pipes could spin
like strings on a guitar to the numbers
you just find number 7 spin the pipes till all the cuts landed on 7
sequence thats how I beleive you can
maximize this matrix I dont think you could
ever tune it by testing because to hit 7 the cut in each pipe would be a different spot well good luck
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 14, 2010, 02:43:28 PM
What has happened with @lambright?
If he has posted something important it is very dificult to find it on the topic.

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: truthbeknown on September 14, 2010, 03:23:33 PM
What has happened with @lambright?
If he has posted something important it is very dificult to find it on the topic.

Jesus

David posted last Thursday on this forum and another forum....This thread is getting cluttered.

J. :'(
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 14, 2010, 07:16:01 PM
HEY  while we were working this, some nice guys figured out HHO production at 50 LPM at 50AMPS    Out of phase resonance (of the 316 Stainless Steel)  tubes excites the water between then a small charge can separate the HHO, look off the shelf mostly.   These guys have made it open source for us all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yuN3pl7Vwk&feature=related
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: void109 on September 14, 2010, 07:48:29 PM
@Cletus (or anyone else who's hip to this math mojo)

I watched your video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cn871D8NTE

I believe its the case that within any axiomatic system there exist patterns.  We use a base ten system in day to day life, I believe, because we happened to evolve ten digits on our paws.  If we had sixteen digits, we'd likely be counting in base sixteen, and I think even then we'd have patterns emerging there as well.

While these are neat tricks you can do when playing with numbers, is there any evidence that this system is useful or reflects reality in a meaningful way?  And is it even a system at all?  It seems like you're just pointing out the entertaining relationships between various numbers, its like a numerology party trick.

Faith is believing without evidence - I think faith is venomous and I cannot see it being of any help in what those here are trying to do.

Perhaps you want (read: should) start a new thread to discuss faith based mathematics and we could try to recover this thread as an exploration of the phenomenon David appears to have (re)discovered and replicated.  Most of this thread has become overrun with this divergent topic and I think it is deterring the original participants from engaging in this thread.  I know myself I have been dodgy of checking here as its usually just another full page of pseudo maths.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 14, 2010, 08:19:15 PM
David posted last Thursday on this forum and another forum....This thread is getting cluttered.

J. :'(

This thread has been Astroturfed!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 14, 2010, 08:43:18 PM
Dude I dont know what your problem is
this is daves system when you cut the pipe depending on
where you cut it depends on what number out the pattern your taking
out if you cut exact midfle you removing
369 which goes directly between
9 between 54 to the center bounced back in diferent frequency
a 54
a 6 cut goes thru the two side of the pipe
not cut those are 11,10 or 12 there the same
a 3 goes thru 78
my guess is you dont understand teslas 369
or 333 or eds18 or the myans and so you also dont understand how
my pattern is perfect and is not a magical trick
but whatever dude I already told dave putting the math out was like putting my head on a choping block probly should just keep it faith is beleiving theres a force of energy between the cuts in the pipe the radiant
glimmer im done 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 14, 2010, 09:15:01 PM
1 loop is one pipe it does not defy your base 10 system in fact it
defines how your base 10 system works
how to cells of a honey comb share 1
side add any number between the circles you
see there the exact same thats why i drew the lines I would have connected the circles but my program does not allow me to do that when you see the patterns perfect you can see how one honey comb is surround
by more because the lines in the middle are the same
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: MrMag on September 15, 2010, 02:34:51 AM

but whatever dude I already told dave putting the math out was like putting my head on a choping block


I think a lot of people here would of preferred the chopping block.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 15, 2010, 03:20:12 AM
Good you got it chop the block in half any number is your
block you get the rest the patern in each half
congrats put them back together get your original number
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 15, 2010, 03:34:23 AM
I had to go chop the magnet in half to prove i was right
if you take a donut magnet and chop it in half it repels
itself because 9 and 9 can no longer go back together
it has to flop but if you cut only one side like daves
the magnet is trying to push itslef apart but cant
because its not split clear in half creating the glimmer
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 15, 2010, 04:19:17 AM
When you gap the broken magnet it
creates a vibration effect
so when you break the magnet
the numbers line up perfect on other side
5,10,6,11 top left
5,10,6,11 bottom right
the exact polarity for magnetism
Really I stole it from a alien
I think you need some conspiracy
stuff for your books 

Bottom left
4,8,12,7
4,8,12,7 top right
amazing how perfect it is I couldnt
do it again I dont think if I tried 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 15, 2010, 04:53:04 AM
The reason it creats vibration is the center
magnet trying to find 9 between the gap its harmonicaly
of and bounces back and forth till 9
if you could get the magnet swinging
the more it swings the easier it is to cross
9 but if you can get it right between 5 and 4
never let it swing and never let it stick
your power would be incredible because your crossing
9 at such a rate like the magnet on the flywheel
spins past the coil but if you timed the circle of energy thru the
magnet it would always be out of phase
and never Grab 9 it would take spining the outer magnets
to see when nine lines up again to know exactly when to input just a bit of the energy from the first passes to push it past the locking
point your spining the ball around the pole the closer it gets the more power
right when it should hit the pole you move it the ball goes thru the pole
the field pushes it again how can you do this you ask
make a 54 next to it so the center is no longer 9
at the exact time the ball would hit nine
theres no nine you need to measure the glimmer
find the elctromagnets to put on inside
to make glimmer go away when you can do that the
at the exact time you would hit 9
activate the electromagnet for millisecond
theres a easier way
take the energy from the 5 to the 1
the 1 is the weakest power
it will add 514 =10 9 canot get stuck then
remove the bridge between 5and1
5 and1=6 you have to force it out of the 369
anytime it wants to stop by gaping the number
to one side to 1   
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 15, 2010, 05:06:47 AM
Tesla hit the ball with radio waves
same principle take the 5 to the end of your
magnets or you can even use some of daves discoveries
how the different rocks emit the energy
match the coil to the zero point rock thats fluctuating
polarity it will never get stuck because its
taking in frequency every frequency is different
like putting a stubblefield coil thru the gap
it will never get stuck it will always move
it cant find a center there is no center
its changed with frequency from air 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 15, 2010, 05:24:33 AM
i know you hate me but I see a stubblfield coil
goimg thru the gap on a pendelum like
newton teslas ball on a string
newtons slide and the coils abikity to produce its own opposing field while generating energy thru the magnet 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 15, 2010, 07:32:20 PM
hi everyone...question;....who all did i promise to build the oxide core devices for?....rose and cletus i know for sure but with all the excitement around here, i kind of lost track....anyway...please let me know.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 16, 2010, 07:05:40 AM

    As we can see from Dr. Dmitriev’s research, there is clearly an interface between the inner processes of the Earth, the outer atmosphere and the energetics from the Sun that is responsible for natural self-luminous formations and tornadoes. In the course of his research, Dmitriev also reports on various magnetic anomalies on the Earth’s surface that support this idea. On January 25, 2001, the Oregon Vortex, which is the United States’ most popular area for anomalies of this type, was again thrust into popular view when Nick Nelson appeared on the “Coast to Coast” show, then hosted by Dr. Mike Siegel. Mr. Nelson has served as a tour guide to this vortex since 1999, is the author of a book entitled “The Golden Vortex,” and currently has a website at http://www.athenapolis.com/NickNelson.htm.

    The Oregon vortex is spherical in shape. This conforms perfectly to what we would expect of a “vacuum domain.”

    The center of the vortex has a chimney-like movement of energy which lifts into the air. This shows that the field is actually a spherical torus, and it possesses a faster energy movement through its central axis than it does in the other areas, as we would expect.

    The energy in certain areas has spiraling qualities. In a certain spot, a magnetized pendulum will spiral in circles, and if a person tries to stand in this area, their body will naturally be compelled to sway in circles as well. And we already have seen the importance of rotation in the polarized CU.

    The vortex exhibits very strong electromagnetic effects. Movie cameras are not permitted in the House of Mystery (the name of the site built on the vortex,) ostensibly because the intense electromagnetic energies can cause permanent damage to sensitive equipment.

    Clear, anomalous changes in gravity are seen in the vortex. In one area, a circle is drawn on the ground, and the closer you get to the circle the more you will be forced to lean, at about 7 degrees of arc off of true perpendicular. If you try to stand up straight, you will fall over. In another area, a broom can be stood up on its edge and remain standing for up to 36 hours. At another spot, a ball can be released on a slide and “roll uphill.” All of these facts perfectly conform to the idea that a polarized CU causes noticeable distortions in the field of gravity, by altering the natural gravity-levity balance.

    The vortex possesses clear magnetic sheets of demarcation. We have already seen this observation of “spheres within spheres” in action with the tornado phenomenon as well as in Roschin and Godin’s replication of the Searl Effect in the laboratory.

    The center of the sphere of energy is in the Earth. This correlates very well with our expectations that these energy processes can be created by areas under the Earth’s surface where the fluid like material of the lithosphere is flowing rapidly in a vortex-like fashion. A more detailed study of the underground geology in this area should reveal such a current.

    The size of objects actually changes from one area to another inside the vortex. This is clearly visible to eyewitness observers and in photographs. Two men of equal height can walk to two different areas in the vortex, and depending on where they stand, one will clearly seem to be taller and the other clearly shorter. If they switch their positions, each spot will still show the same effects on their respective heights, so that the short man is now the tall man and vice versa. Again, this conforms with our observations from tornado phenomena that suggest that definite effects on matter are being produced, which can change its overall structure in heretofore-unknown ways.

    The changing size of objects cannot be measured with instruments. This is simply due to the fact that the measuring instruments also change in size as they move through these areas. Thus, “all is relative” within the vortex which makes accurate measurements of the changes impossible, except by visual observation..................hi everyone...all of the things that the oregon vortex does, my devices seem to do also....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 16, 2010, 07:41:02 AM
http://www.simondavideden.com/section81485.html       this is very interesting stuff.....check it out.......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: zapnic on September 16, 2010, 08:18:40 AM
    As we can see from Dr. Dmitriev’s research, there is clearly an interface between the inner processes of the Earth, the outer atmosphere and the energetics from the Sun that is responsible for natural self-luminous formations and tornadoes. In the course of his research, Dmitriev also reports on various magnetic anomalies on the Earth’s surface that support this idea. On January 25, 2001, the Oregon Vortex, which is the United States’ most popular area for anomalies of this type, was again thrust into popular view when Nick Nelson appeared on the “Coast to Coast” show, then hosted by Dr. Mike Siegel. Mr. Nelson has served as a tour guide to this vortex since 1999, is the author of a book entitled “The Golden Vortex,” and currently has a website at http://www.athenapolis.com/NickNelson.htm.

    The Oregon vortex is spherical in shape. This conforms perfectly to what we would expect of a “vacuum domain.”

    The center of the vortex has a chimney-like movement of energy which lifts into the air. This shows that the field is actually a spherical torus, and it possesses a faster energy movement through its central axis than it does in the other areas, as we would expect.

    The energy in certain areas has spiraling qualities. In a certain spot, a magnetized pendulum will spiral in circles, and if a person tries to stand in this area, their body will naturally be compelled to sway in circles as well. And we already have seen the importance of rotation in the polarized CU.

    The vortex exhibits very strong electromagnetic effects. Movie cameras are not permitted in the House of Mystery (the name of the site built on the vortex,) ostensibly because the intense electromagnetic energies can cause permanent damage to sensitive equipment.

    Clear, anomalous changes in gravity are seen in the vortex. In one area, a circle is drawn on the ground, and the closer you get to the circle the more you will be forced to lean, at about 7 degrees of arc off of true perpendicular. If you try to stand up straight, you will fall over. In another area, a broom can be stood up on its edge and remain standing for up to 36 hours. At another spot, a ball can be released on a slide and “roll uphill.” All of these facts perfectly conform to the idea that a polarized CU causes noticeable distortions in the field of gravity, by altering the natural gravity-levity balance.

    The vortex possesses clear magnetic sheets of demarcation. We have already seen this observation of “spheres within spheres” in action with the tornado phenomenon as well as in Roschin and Godin’s replication of the Searl Effect in the laboratory.

    The center of the sphere of energy is in the Earth. This correlates very well with our expectations that these energy processes can be created by areas under the Earth’s surface where the fluid like material of the lithosphere is flowing rapidly in a vortex-like fashion. A more detailed study of the underground geology in this area should reveal such a current.

    The size of objects actually changes from one area to another inside the vortex. This is clearly visible to eyewitness observers and in photographs. Two men of equal height can walk to two different areas in the vortex, and depending on where they stand, one will clearly seem to be taller and the other clearly shorter. If they switch their positions, each spot will still show the same effects on their respective heights, so that the short man is now the tall man and vice versa. Again, this conforms with our observations from tornado phenomena that suggest that definite effects on matter are being produced, which can change its overall structure in heretofore-unknown ways.

    The changing size of objects cannot be measured with instruments. This is simply due to the fact that the measuring instruments also change in size as they move through these areas. Thus, “all is relative” within the vortex which makes accurate measurements of the changes impossible, except by visual observation..................hi everyone...all of the things that the oregon vortex does, my devices seem to do also....david

hey dude
here is the book http://books.google.com/books?id=xAOfLVoyCLIC&pg=PP1&dq=nick+nelson&sig=ACfU3U0u_aGdGFwjP9eKbcd4ItBqMrM-9A#v=onepage&q&f=false

and here is old thread http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5445.msg123054#msg123054
thanks david you are making good work
 
bye

 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 16, 2010, 05:29:40 PM
@dave
when I created the vortex I calculated it at 1.7 miles
I would spin and slam against the wall
in my dreams every night like 5 times as I fell asleep
till the subcountious matched the awake state energy
some how it created a energy vortex between
sleep and awake I dont know how to explain that
we did have problems with people swaying
on the porch mainly my cousin whos quite large
I was able to stop the vortex by disasembling
the moray valve that was funneling energy to the ground
rod wich was the water pipe after removing
the antenna the vortex continued to funnel thru the ground rod
it no longer needed the antenna or cells
I got pretty woried and did not know if I could stop it
I was wiping all the electronic stuff
the magnetic field was so strong in
the cable from the cell to the antenna was like the giant elevtromagnet
I did notice a vortex which have not noticed since
every day all the toilet papper rolls I set around the tub
would be in the tub by the end of the day
I woukd set them back on the edge and they would fall back in
within a day or so The water pipe I was using was next to my tub
and It did finally stop by soaking the entire property with water
for a good amount of time like 2 weeks
or so I was quite releived I could sleep again
and havent put the cells back together since
I did do some simple test of connecting
the magnet poles like that email I sent you
and I found I you put a third small magnet
between the broken ends that repel you can get the energy flowing thru the magnet and the third magnet can be remove it apears the speed at which
you remove the third magnet determines whether the ends begin to repel or
attract my magnets are not smooth and
the washer between may be  better then the third magnet
basicaly i touch the repelling broken half of the circle
together on the bottom put the magnet between the top
let the field start flowing thru the circle
and remove the magnet in the middle the reppeling force is the almost completly gone and actualy i got it to stick
a couple times but not exactly center then
because its not perfect the little offset seems to allow the
reppeling field to build again so it seems you can control the glimmer by
inserting a third field between it I guess two magnets would
be a 69=15=6  three makes a 369=18 =9
ill have to look at the number pattern but the
theory is right these numbers here may not be
i think its actualy a 55 44 ill see if I can explain that in numbers
seems almost like a third matrix is the broken
polarity the field created when magnet shears the
the invisible field that may take a while for me to understand
well hope everyone has a Good day Im pretty shure I understand the Joe cell now which was my goal hopefully I can build one as soon As I get some money together   
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 16, 2010, 05:46:19 PM
I did change the size of this to exactly half it was very interesting
because when it boiled over the two energy was fighting over the top and bottom this brought up a big concern about earth can earth contract
the same as this bottle would the alignment of
the stars or whatever on 12 .21 2012
or whatever that date is be my two coils inside the bottle
could cause a boil over volcano and release enough energy to contract all the
land mass back together the ocean land would be sucked back in
im not much for conperacies but I find truth in
both if you get enough lies you finaly find the truth
this experiment was working on my antigravity stuf and just happened to leave this exactly half well enjoy.
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO7k6LflSco&feature=youtube_gdata_player


 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 16, 2010, 09:03:47 PM
Im trying to put that energy vortex
size diffence to earth so if two guys stand
on different sides one apears bigger and one apears
smaller so when you leave earth in a plane it apears smaller
so this is some type of energy field concentrated
like the atmosphere that allows the depth and size to
apear at a farther distance from one way
and a larger distance the other like a binoculars 
so why is this doing that if its not a ball of fire
like the sun it must be because your only in half the bubble
of energy one is in the middle of the black hole
looking out one is looking in but its a horezontal hole so if you
put a rainbow v of water Mist you would time warp you can hold the mist in granite like my earth battery 
dont ask me why but it right where you would Go not shure.
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 16, 2010, 09:10:39 PM
So the pyraamid is a energy funnel
and a double v so why is its not working
must have something disconected the water of the flood stoped the radiation to it by prisming the frequency huh wonder what it would take to start it
I say climb the pyramid put a big fuking antenna on top that will get it going
again then lets see what that fucker can do.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 18, 2010, 03:09:04 AM
Update I did Go to court today over the mib harrasment
they said they would drop the charges in 6 months if I signed a paper
not to sue and stating the officer had the right to force me to be searched
I said no Im not giving up my civil rights
were set for trial nov 1 wish me luck officer
made up bunch bs in report Anyways
I did find this video of a corona interesting how
theres a arc a 31 from the other side of the sun like a force on eds
door at coral castle by the bell he shows 21
earth sun and what apears to be another earth
on the other side 21 is earth .210 mv
what I sent the quake with that caused these flares
but not shure if that make 42 or how that
fits in also had some concers about haarp
if two haarps were going on diferent sides of earth
it would be two energies fighting over each other
could release the energy from earth
and contract it like the bottle now this is not likely
given they woukd need to be equaly powered
or same frequency possibly but I now beleive Tesla that Earth
can be split in two by detroying the gravity
seperating the magnetic polarity Which I beleive is happening why earth is expanding the energy is becoming greater in earth
and will boil over when I dont know but theres no stoping the UV
rays from continualy funneling the volcanoes and earth quakes are good
If we didnt have small ones we would have large ones
after energy built up the casualties would be more
but releasing the energy can be done
without mass destruction anyways heres the
video hope you find it interesting.
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWSF8Lsgjss&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 18, 2010, 04:06:57 AM
These mib must think im scared to die
serious fuck off or get it over with
they pull up in front my house shoot a fucking
gun and leave a dead Dog i should have video
taped it but theres a shit load people out there
I dont want to look like a jerk video taping a dead dog
so message = im dead dog
ohh im fucking scared punks
you must not know my God.
Peace
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: truthbeknown on September 18, 2010, 05:36:56 AM
These mib must think im scared to die
serious fuck off or get it over with
they pull up in front my house shoot a fucking
gun and leave a dead Dog i should have video
taped it but theres a shit load people out there
I dont want to look like a jerk video taping a dead dog
so message = im dead dog
ohh im fucking scared punks
you must not know my God.
Peace

I hope you feel better tomorrow.

 :)
J.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 18, 2010, 07:36:43 PM
Cletus, if ANYONE could figure out how to get mass amounts of HHO easily then we would have some much power we could get off the GOV's grid. 8)
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on September 18, 2010, 07:58:27 PM
Cletus, if ANYONE could figure out how to get mass amounts of HHO easily then we would have some much power we could get off the GOV's grid. 8)
hrmm i wonder how humans survived for thousands of years with no govt. grid... the main reason you are not off it (the govt. grid) is because of your love of convenience. make a change to your relationship with electricity and start making your own power instead of waiting/hoping for someone to deliver you a silver platter so you can continue with your wastefulness.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 18, 2010, 08:00:40 PM
Hope this system with haarp could free power every car
in the US the Goverment does not want free power
they are enslaving you and me and Haarp
has never done one good thing for the United States
its being used as weapons It causes Earth quakes I know Exactly
what I can do they took over japans ecomomic control
by threatening them with earth quakes
and they have tied many quakes to the political threats of
the US they can also take this wireless hydrogen
and charge the atmopshere and blow it the fuck up
now which do you think will happen first free power to cars from
Haarp or them blowing up a hydrogen bomb built from a gas bubble in the ozone?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 18, 2010, 08:02:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_yOSDVJ1vY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 18, 2010, 08:47:45 PM
here is a new video of my oxide core device.....  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPDqrJcX61A  i will try to get more up today.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: void109 on September 18, 2010, 08:48:54 PM
I just watched that several minutes ago, amazing video!  Is that one of your aquarium tubes stuffed with iron oxide powder?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 19, 2010, 12:08:04 AM
hi void...in that video, the tube is aluminum...i am making new vids with the clear tube today...david........   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ieULmQO5U   .....that is the new one....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: void109 on September 19, 2010, 01:35:36 AM
Hi David,

I took some 3/8" dia aquarium tubing and stuffed it with black iron oxide (finally found that a local pottery supply store sells it, so I picked up a quantity).  Taped it end-to end, and wrapped several coils on it to try various strengths.  40 turns, and 120 turns of 22 gauge attempted separately, with nothing notable occurring.  I tried four turns of 10 gauge as well (less turns more current).

I was hitting off a large 12V lead acid battery.

Can you offer a little coaching as to how to get this thing going, as well as which specifics you look for to know its 'on'?  I keep a compass in the middle when I'm pulsing it, and it jumps around as expected, but settles on magnetic north.  I've not seen an effect yet.

Was thinking about stuffing a fisher price toy ring full of oxide.

Thanks for any advice you can dig up :)

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 19, 2010, 01:55:42 AM
void...do you have access to a camera with nite shot?...the first video was shot with mostly IR....you might try viewing the device with that...you built and energized your device like i would have.....good work...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: void109 on September 19, 2010, 02:01:13 AM
Unfortunately my camera is a canon so I dont have infrared capabilities.  I'll try some low light environments.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 19, 2010, 02:16:32 AM
hi...try this...get a LED flashlight and hold the OC device by the wires and move the flashlight rapidly back and forth while shining the beam on the OC device.....i feel the light pushing the device...very subtle...5 others also felt this......interesting....   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ieULmQO5U   ....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: void109 on September 19, 2010, 06:36:25 AM
hi...try this...get a LED flashlight and hold the OC device by the wires and move the flashlight rapidly back and forth while shining the beam on the OC device.....i feel the light pushing the device...very subtle...5 others also felt this......interesting....   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ieULmQO5U   ....david

I cant help but wonder if what we're seeing in the footage isnt just a lighting artifact of the material and the lens.  In your latest video from about 3:04 and beyond, I see the same type of anomalies to the right of the object, not within the inner circle.

I did stuff a large fisher price donut full of oxide and juiced it.  I still see or feel no phenomenon, however there was one curiosity (which I dont know that its noteworthy), when I move my compass around it post charge, north points to the coil at two different positions  on the donut, lets say the first is at 0 degrees.  Then the second northward position is at 120 degrees.  I was hoping to see another at 240 but there isnt.  So moving the compass around, its north at 0, south at 60, north at 120, south at 240 and north again at 0.

I pulsed the coil in many locations, meaning, I'd move it incrementally around the donut and blip it with current.  The positions would rarely deviate and if they did, it was always under 5-10 degrees of deviation and they would deviate by the same amount, so it was always 120 degrees between the two north positions.  At one point I banged the donut around (since its stuffed with iron oxide powder) hoping to settle any miscreant pockets of air, and I flexed it severely.  This resulted in the two points being shifted by around 5 degrees.  It would eventually settle back to the original positions ( I had marked these as soon as I noted them).

Dont know if its interesting, but that's all I've seen so far.  I didnt have an LED flashlight, I tried playing with a laser pointer to see any effect.  I also hung it in various positions and rotated it.  Even placed it flat on a retired orbo platform I was toying with and spun it up looking for anything interesting to emerge.  No dice yet.  I'll sit on it for awhile and try something new when I have an epiphany. :)

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 19, 2010, 09:08:29 AM
Ok i just kkinda understood a lot today basicaly
I found zero point energy its between
resitance and vacume and resistance
or vice versa
so I did a lot on the moray cell tesla black box
but also I now understand coral castle
ok ground is a vacume= gravity
the rock is a vacume
the air is resistence
the air resistence is most at night
the moisture on the rock negates the
amount of vacume the rock has
by neutralizing the energy radiation
also the salt does the same
so now there has to be resistence
put between the rock to equal the air
this has to be a reverse generator
ac current is a vacume we need a ressitor
a pressure like in the incandescent bulb is a
resistor so some how that generator makes reverse of ac a
open loop generator some how like
maybee because the cut is not a closed loop
it generates negative energy that when equal to the rock will lift it hes ballancing the vacume of the rock between the resistance of air
and resistance he makes with the generator
anyways i think your stuck on a metal
compass i think you might find your missing poles using aluminum
just a thought aluminum and steel are oposites
aluminum does not take -ions i think
anyways - or + its opposite of salt Iron
oh i got it a aluminum wire to the
water box the generator can
turn the water to negative with a aluminum wire
he should be able to lift the rock
dam I did a lot in one day. 
 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: cletushowell on September 19, 2010, 09:22:32 AM
@hope
water is a vacume huh thats got me
on the rock the rock is vacume do two - = positive
have to test i guess huh?
Well anyways flourescent is a
vacume so the ac is a vacume
and ground is a vacume
so the only way to light the flourescent
is a ballast wich must be resistor
so if water is a vacume a ballast should make more hydrogen
then you ever seen. Ill search ballast to see how the hell it makes
resistance so with a aluminum wire and a ballast should
give you resistence to levitate the rock
I think ed was threatened by goverment to infact
his pattent were denied by einstien the German spi for his dad
tesla manhaten project was from his manhatten earth quake
the nukes a hydrogen bomb
the cities were leveled with scalar waves
edison didnt invent the dc or light bulb
teslas first pattent 1985 1930 was when he was said to work for edison
go figure how they fuck all history up.
So 911 scalar waves tuned it triangulate
crash the planes like droping hydrogen
bomb level the buildings a big scandal
oh i forgot crank up the bass 1 billion watts
then level it
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on September 19, 2010, 11:14:28 AM
Have got a 1/2 alumi pipe  thin walled will be forming soon.    Thanks for the viewing tips.       and Cletus,  you can figure this out!   I mean you lifted rocks already  water is lighter
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 21, 2010, 12:00:36 AM
video....    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv-Fv_vNjP0    ..........david.....     also....   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMjZaFvWcog   ...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: void109 on September 21, 2010, 12:08:40 AM
Would be interesting to see if you can use an uncharged hoop of the same containing material and zoom in to see if you get that last effect anyway - see if its just due to the camera.  Zooming in on the wicker basket with the hoop so severely out of focus might be tripping up the digital focus logic (or whatever mechanism it uses).
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 24, 2010, 05:21:55 AM
everyone should read this thread.... http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=10&start=0   ....david.....also a new video   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggxvrFqgpH4   ....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 24, 2010, 08:03:47 AM
Hi David,

everyone should read this thread.... http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=10&start=0   ....david

What is the name of the thread?  I am getting a listing of topics at the above link.

Thanx,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 24, 2010, 10:21:11 AM
various force and energy speculations by Lizzie @ thunderbolts    also see if you can see a "halo" around my device in this video   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggxvrFqgpH4    ...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 24, 2010, 10:39:46 AM
various force and energy speculations by Lizzie @ thunderbolts    also see if you can see a "halo" around my device in this video   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggxvrFqgpH4    ...david

Indeed I can.  I am seeing pretty significant distortion... most prominently about 15-30 degrees counter-clockwise from your coil as viewed by the camera.

If I can make a suggestion, or perhaps a request...  what happens when you place two identical (or close) instances of your device in close proximity, but charged to opposite polarities, creating opposite directions of stored flux rotation?  The concept would be to create counter-rotating magnetic fields, and hopefully counter-rotating yet interacting aetheric vortexes;)

I will check out the thread you indicated after some sleep... been a long one today.

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 24, 2010, 02:24:30 PM
@lambright

It is very difficult to see it even though it is there.

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 24, 2010, 09:25:49 PM
hi...if i hold 2 of my devices 3 or 4 inches apart, i can see a dual vortex moving from one ring to the other ring...it is just as jesus said ...hard to see, but it is there!...let me know what you see.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 24, 2010, 10:02:43 PM
a video with 2 OC devices.....hopefully you can see something?...   david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 25, 2010, 03:04:37 AM
a video with 2 OC devices.....hopefully you can see something?...   david

Hey David,

Thanx for the vid, but you have earned my respect enough that if you say you see an interacting vortex, then you see an interacting vortex.  Your word is good enough.  I can see a little in the vid, but it does not show up as well as the previous vid.

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 25, 2010, 06:13:16 AM
twinbeard....the video is terrible :(i cant see any interaction between the two rings....i was in a hurry...i will try again tonight to get something worthwhile.....the video oxide core PMH device is OK ...you can kindof see a halo around the device.....i will keep trying....thanks for your kind words and your support.....i will try using a magnet and an OC device.....but let me just say this, i have seen a votrtex from ring to ring and many other people have seen it too!......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on September 25, 2010, 10:48:19 AM
twinbeard....the video is terrible :(i cant see any interaction between the two rings....i was in a hurry...i will try again tonight to get something worthwhile.....the video oxide core PMH device is OK ...you can kindof see a halo around the device.....i will keep trying....thanks for your kind words and your support.....i will try using a magnet and an OC device.....but let me just say this, i have seen a votrtex from ring to ring and many other people have seen it too!......david

what i saw was fleeting and easy to miss.  it was most noticeable slightly to the left of the left PMH.

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 25, 2010, 04:00:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72rSNIx0JKM  watch and comment!....thanks...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on September 25, 2010, 08:25:32 PM
On that last video, maybe it is my imagination, but I saw a kind greenish light turned on the device at the left.

On the one I have here what I saw was like if it had a clear plastic over the center of the circle at the distance of three paces from the device. But no light. If that is what it should show.

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 28, 2010, 02:15:44 AM
a new video.....    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iesOLb7oxNI   .....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 29, 2010, 04:08:48 PM
loner...as far as i can tell, you have done every thing "correct"...as far as that goes...i can get a mechanical lock with fewer segments but with 24 segments, it is only necessary to start the flow of "magnetic current" with a small coil....smokey2 suggested using larger copper wire to get a good flow started...i will take my #1 device apart and start from the begining to see if there is anything that i might have missed or maybe there is something helpful i am overlooking...i really want you to get this....@smokey if you read this , maybe you could offer some helpful advice?....one thing to remember though, this energy/radiation is visually very subtle...but it is there!....i will try and answer any questions you have....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on September 29, 2010, 06:28:53 PM
loner...i took my device apart, re-sanded the segments and re-assembled the device....i re- energized the device using the same 9.6v DC battery, remember to switch polarity and just a quick spark is all it takes...a quartz crystal held around the device and turned slowly should give results....also a metal ring, steel, copper or aluminum, about 12" dia. gives a good view of this radiation/energy/field....here is a bit of a post by Lizzie at thunderbolts.info...ilhelm Reich called it “orgone” energy and even developed some methods for manipulating it. It is probably related to the spin field that Russian scientists have been exploring in the last few years.Here is an excerpt from an article from a couple of these scientists “Yu.V.Nachalov and A.N.Sokolov” which links a variety of related discoveries to spin fields:

“In this article the experimental results obtained by various researchers in the period 1950-1990 are discussed. Since all experimental results under consideration could not be explained in the framework of existing theories, these results were placed under the category of "experimentally-observed phenomena."It is shown that all of the experiments considered here have demonstrated a manifestation of spin-torsion interactions.

Over the course of the XX century, various investigations in different countries, representing a variety of professional interests, repeatedly reported the discovery of unusual phenomena that could not be explained in the framework of existing theories. Since these authors could not understand the physics of the observed phenomena, they were forced to give their own names to the fields, emanations and energies responsible for the creation of these phenomena.

For instance, N.A.Kozyrev's "time emanation" [1-4], W.Reich's "O-emanation" or "orgone" [5], M.R.Blondlot's "N-emanation" [6], I.M.Shakhparonov's "Mon-emanation", A.G.Gurvich's "mitogenetic emanation" [7], A.L.Chizhevsky's "Z-emanation", A.I.Veinik's "chronal field" [8,9], "M-field" [10], A.A.Deev's "D-field", Yu.V.Tszyan Kanchzhen's "biofield", H.Moriyama's "X-agent" [11], V.V.Lensky's "multipolar energy" [12], "radiesthesietic emanation" [13], "shape power", "empty waves" [19], "pseudomagnetism" [20], H.A.Nieper's "gravity field energy" [21], T.T.Brown's "electrogravitation" [22], "fifth force" [23], "antigravitation" [24], "free energy". This list can be easily continued.”.....anyway....more soon...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 01, 2010, 11:36:41 AM
loner...i too think a battery works better than a power supply...a friend of mine has a camera flash setup that has been modified to use as a "sparking" device with the capacitor..we used it successfully to charge a standard PMH...so a cap works.....also i took a charged PMH, and an uncharged PMH, hooked the coil wires together and pulled the keeper off the charged PMH and it locked the other one.....quartz crystal interacts well with this energy feild.....metals also work...spin your device and hold mineral/metal object at plane and turn it slowly over and around...you should feel a difference, like slight magnetism.....let me know ......thanks.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 06, 2010, 09:40:11 PM
his is an email i got a while back;........2 attachments (total 3.8 MB)

DownloadDownload
View slide show (2)|Download all


Check out the attached pictures and feel free to share them with anyone you want to


Im not going to post them because some blog basher would start asking me questions about something i know very little about      ( I feel for you dave ) Don,t let them bring you down


Now that this device has been charged for a few weeks the waves seem more visible


Its kinda like if I try to look to close I cant see it as much.  I think the brain tricks itself because it knows its not normal, kind of like when you look at spinning spiral video and everything is wavy after but in reverse 


Im still looking for something good to mount it on and give it a spin


Anyway Ill let you know if I find anything interesting




   Thanks
                  Tom
this was back on 7/14/10.......i do not know how to post the pix but i could email them......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on October 06, 2010, 09:59:37 PM
Hi All,

Hey my device wouldn't lock either.  But this is due to surfaces not mating close enough.  Just build the aluminum ring with oxide.   Or mate the surface better.   :)
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 08, 2010, 07:40:03 AM
please re-watch my videos in 240p mode.....thanks...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on October 08, 2010, 07:42:20 AM
please re-watch my videos in 240p mode.....thanks...david

Dave?  What is 240p mode?  And where are the links?  Please oblige.

Kindest regards,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 08, 2010, 09:03:47 AM
rose...in the lower right corner,next to where you cilck on to go to full screen, you will see a number...360p......if you click on the number, you can change the video quality...change it to 240p and watch them again...david...      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72rSNIx0JKM   ...thanks... dave
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on October 08, 2010, 02:40:33 PM
rose...in the lower right corner,next to where you cilck on to go to full screen, you will see a number...360p......if you click on the number, you can change the video quality...change it to 240p and watch them again...david...   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggxvrFqgpH4    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72rSNIx0JKM   ...thanks... dave

Dave - thanks for this.  But I really couldn't see the 'effect' that I did see before.  I wonder if it wouldn't help if you kept the ring steady?  I think the actual problem here is that my focus is very bad and by the time I focus in the ring has moved again.  But that's just me.  I'm not sure how everyone else is seeing it. 

But many thanks for all your input.  This is indeed an interesting subject.

Kindest regards,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 08, 2010, 07:27:30 PM
rose....try it one more time....look right around the magnet....you should see it better.......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on October 08, 2010, 09:11:36 PM
rose....try it one more time....look right around the magnet....you should see it better.......david

That was a different video.  The coils look entirely black and all in silhouette.  I'm sort of seeing something associated directly with the magnet.  But I'll look again in the morning.  I think the light's too bad now - and my eyesight is AWFUL.  I peered up real close - gave me the best view - and I did see a suggestion of the 'glimmer'.  But I'll do this again when the eyes are rested.

Thanks Dave,
Regards,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 12, 2010, 02:42:34 AM
smokey2...could you post the dimensions of your device?.....also i have new findings...Ed said to run the streams against each other.....so i took 2 un-charged OC PMHs and wound the energizing coils opposite each other and charged them....i can now see why he said that...the radiant output from the 2 devices seem to repel each other...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 12, 2010, 03:21:55 AM
the 2 oc devices to seem repel each other and this effect seems to grow .....thereis a definite pulsing of this field...now i realise how this next part is going sound....while expirementing with this effect, it seemed as though parts of my devices got to looking ethery...like trying to go transparent?.....my large OC PMH really has good output in the visible range and with the flow against each other i am seeing more color in the field...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 12, 2010, 07:57:14 AM
smokey2...have you been expirementing with the oxide core devices?....if not you should......this is getting really good!....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on October 12, 2010, 08:11:46 AM
the 2 oc devices to seem repel each other and this effect seems to grow .....thereis a definite pulsing of this field...now i realise how this next part is going sound....while expirementing with this effect, it seemed as though parts of my devices got to looking ethery...like trying to go transparent?.....my large OC PMH really has good output in the visible range and with the flow against each other i am seeing more color in the field...david

Dave - that's jolly interesting.  Can you give us a video of this? 

Kindest regards,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 12, 2010, 05:51:00 PM
rose....i will try and get some better video.....also rose yourOC device is ready to mail!...i just need an address.....i have been using your device to make sure it has a good output......i forget who-all i promised an OC device...i will have to go back through and look.....thanks everyone....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 12, 2010, 06:49:34 PM
@ Dave

the ferrofluid gives me some ideas..
you could put it into a clear plastic tube
like those glow-necklaces.
be a trick to get it 100% full, but once you do and seal it up,
you could energize it, and have a liquid PMH
and see if there was any motion of the fluid.

or like i mentiond earlier, a solar-cell that can pick up IR light would be a real simple test that would clarify 99% of our questions.

If you could pull that off, and definitively prove the radiating energy, they'd put yur name in the history books right next to Rontgen, Becquerel, or Marie Curie herself.
..........i have made a ferro fluid core PMH but i cannot detect any movement of the fluid...i also put powdered oxide into a clear tube and was able to energize it.....the oxide was black when i put it into the tube but after i energized it, it has taken on a grey/purple color?.....smokey2......i ask for your help in this matter......you are so smart when it comes to this....your insight is brilliant.......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 14, 2010, 09:46:46 AM
hi...did i do something to offend any one on this thread?....i am so sorry if i did.....i know i have been slow but i do have 3 OC devices ready....rose?....anyway thanks for your intrest in this...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on October 14, 2010, 09:56:28 AM
Dave?  I don't think anyone's offended.  My problem is that I'm too thinly spread - and I really need to try and concentrate on less variety of interests and, hopefully do more - so to speak.  But your work is much appreciated.  There is the problem that the evidence is tenuous and not measurable.  But I think what you've disclosed is that there's a definite interaction with light and what may be an electric field or a magnetic field or both.  Just not sure.  But press on here Dave.  All efforts to get to this elusive energy source is always much appreciated.  I must personally apologise that I really need to concentrate better on my own thread and, hopefully, on Laser's.  It's getting to that time when my own time will be pretty well fully accounted for.  As it is the days are a little bit too short.

And many thanks for the HUGE efforts you've expended.

Kindest regards,
Rosie
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: zapnic on October 14, 2010, 11:37:04 AM
hi dave
couple on your videos there is pulling effect
i like see more that  effect
bye
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on October 14, 2010, 03:55:44 PM
@lambright

Just forget the problem that the people cannot see the effect your device has.
Direct your efforts to get any energy from it if it its possible.
Also divert your attention to other things and the right idea will come to you.

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: IotaYodi on October 14, 2010, 04:43:56 PM
Quote
But I think what you've disclosed is that there's a definite interaction with light and what may be an electric field or a magnetic field or both. 
This is the part that astounds me with his hand held laser pointer. Its the most important part in my opinion. What frequency of light is better? Is there more than one frequency like white light? Frequency of the light pulses? What distance from the coil? Whats the laser pointers electrical characteristics? These photons must be doing something. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 18, 2010, 03:08:48 AM
this is  post by van t stride on aother forum..                                        Hi-

So far, I have been a lurker in this thread, but also an avid reader of the forum and following David's YouTube vids. I KNOW that he is correct in describing what he feels / felt, while experimenting with his device.

Here is my experience: I don't have resources (time, mostly) to build David's rig. So I built a small 3" PMH which consists of two semi-circular pieces of spring steel, filed on the ends, to make a slightly oval profile. I used about 25 wraps of copper wire and energized with a car battery. Both halves are magnetized together (locked). The overall shape looks a bit like an egg. (There are no heels or legs sticking out.)

I mounted this to a circular piece of plastic with zip ties, used a carriage bolt with a hex-nut - on the underside of the disk - and place the bolt in my variable speed drill and spun it at approx. 500 RPM.

Using a variety of stones that I have collected over the years I tried every one (including Amethyst geodes which contain quartz) and felt very little - if anything.

Then I tried a green rock I have which is very heavy for it's size which definitely has a great deal of crystalline composition (might be a form of Serpentine). Using this rock I DID feel a PUSH in my hand which varied depending on how I moved the rock in relationship to the spinning PMH. Looking closely at this stone, it does have at least one surface which could be viewed as a "cavity" (CAVITATION?) that is a finger-nail sized depression in the surface. It was near this surface at about 10 degree angle to the spin plane, that provided the most feedback (although I sometimes did feel a similar push using a pointed end of the stone nearly touching the "axle."

Comment to Dave: Hang in there, buddy, I know you are right - check your geode for cavities / surface features that could be somehow collecting and amplifying the effect.

I also noticed that Dave's rig is without one feature that Ed's rig included (and I have seen it in other's pictures on the forum) which is the "Quatrefoil" shape (PMH?) on the top edge of Ed's machine. I would theorize that adding a part shaped like this on Dave's device may amplify or "tune" the output??

I am also in Oregon, I live well North of Dave, but both my wife and I have felt a clear "push" when moving this stone over the PMH. I am tempted to take it to his "neck of the woods" and try it there. I also saw (with my eyes) some "interaction" between the stone and the PMH but I doubt it could be filmed and I am trying to decide if I really saw what I believe I saw.

Also, I feel a little odd when I am around the PMH for extended periods of time. I slept with it on the night-stand last night and slept very well, but woke feeling very off - something  in the pit of my stomach???

-Van
this was yesterday....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 18, 2010, 06:06:53 AM
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Edward Leedskalnin built coral castle and he used the same energy that i have re-discovered using my devices...there are more and more people replicating these devices...and getting the SAME results as me....the "gravational" or magnetic push in materials that do NOT exibit normal magnetic properties....the visualdistortion around the devices and the vortice formation above the device....i know that this theory is correct and now that there are other WORKING models, making the same energy flow...Ed never told anyone how...but he did leave clues....i saw a blurriness in his b&w pix and realised it was this same energy flow that i was seeing around his PMH.....this IS the energy he harnessed....as time goes on, more and more people will build these types of devices and will find out ALL of this energys properties....thank you all for your interest and replicating the devices....i will continue to try and help anyone who have not got results...hopefully these new replications will radiate more of the visible spectrum on this subject!.....thanks...daviddavid lambright
 
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Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 18, 2010, 06:20:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvUHreK-0KE ...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 19, 2010, 04:36:58 AM
when i heat a piece of metal it gets flexible/soft but is it the only way to soften it......we know that we can make ANY object heavier, by spinning it...but is the only way?  .... Hutchinson has showed us that metal can be softened using HV/HF.....he has also shown that metals can become transparent using these same HV/HF fields....density?....if i take an object, tie it to a string and spin it its apparent weight increases.....with that increase in weight does it become more dense?.......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 19, 2010, 08:38:08 PM
i am going to build a compass table.... a 1'x 1' square covered with small compasses.....this i hope will show better what is going on when a device is energized....with an oxide core torus, there are multipule poles created when it is energized....this tool should shed some light on what is happening when a device isenergized......any thoughts ?.......david.....it would be nice to make a 3D compass cube!
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 19, 2010, 09:02:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4wt2tG5Tec    watch this in 240p and look at the rock starting at 2:00......see how much it wvers?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: TechStuf on October 19, 2010, 09:35:23 PM
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Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Edreak on October 21, 2010, 10:46:22 PM
Hi David,
I've signed up here just to ask you a few questions about this interesting effect you are experiencing.

With the way your device reacts with stone and other material, have you tried spinning the device faster? Say on a power drill? Does that actually make the effect stronger?

Have you tried using a Tesla Radiant energy setup near the device when it's running? Would be interesting to know if the effect interacts with the aerial and charges the system into useable energy.

Either way you've got me scratching my head on this one, that heat effect without the heat is impressive.

I plan to build a PFM myself here in New Zealand to play around with the effect, however I'm considering trying to make one from Iron Sand, I'm thinking the iron and silica mix may have a different effect, reason I want the silica in there is to do with the composition of Stone Henge's stone having a high silica content, they release magnetic energy at random, might be a good way to amplify the magnetic fields.

Thanks

Edreak
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 22, 2010, 12:00:59 AM
hi edreak...welcome and thank you for your interest...the "heat" type radiation comes off the device even if the device is stationary!......it seems like that because this visible energy is what causes both gravity and densityso it has "weight" that when centrifugal force is added, just like spinning an object you can make it heavier, you can add energy to this force like density or gravity at the plane..... but at the pole, the levity can be added?.....i was also thinking about adding different minerals/metals/oxides to my oxide core devices to see if there was an increase/change in them.....i am not sure what you mean by PFM?...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Edreak on October 22, 2010, 12:49:15 AM
Thanks for the reply David, sorry I mean PMH, the coffee hadn't kicked in yet.

It's going to take me a while to get the Iron Sand, as it's a protected resource in this country, but I'm sure it's obtainable, if need be under the cloak of darkness.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 24, 2010, 07:31:06 PM
edreak, what country do you live in?...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Edreak on October 25, 2010, 11:02:36 PM
Hi David,
I'm on the A hole of the world just about, Christchurch New Zealand, or recently known as the shakey isles.

- Edreak
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 25, 2010, 11:03:33 PM
this is a portion of a physics paper or book that to me heps explain Eds wire wound bottles....

C.—DIELECTRIC POLARIZATION. 493. Electrification resident in the Dielectric—

In 1748, Franklin showed that " the whole force of the bottle and power of giving a shock, is in the glass itself ; the non-electrics in contact with the two surfaces serving only to give and receive to and from the several parts of glass; that is, to give on one side and take away on the other." Whenever an electrified body is entirely enclosed within a conducting surface, an opposite electrification is produced upon this surface precisely equal in amount; and this uo matter how distant from the body this surface may be. The two conducting surfaces may therefore be regarded simply as the boundaries of the intervening dielectric; this dielectric being oppositely electrified on its inner and outer faces. The term "field" refers to the space between the conducting surfaces, "medium" to the substance occupying this space. The term "insulating medium" refers to the property of retaining the charge possessed by the medium, and the term " dielectric medium" to its property of transmitting induction.

Experiments.—To repeat Franklin's experiment, provide a bottle, having thin lead-foil on the bottom and half-way up on the outside, and containing water, with which a wire connects through the cork. Charge this bottle, place it on glass, remove the cork and wire, and touching the outside with one hand, bring a finger of the other near the water. A smart shock will be felt. Charge the bottle again, remove the cork and wire and pour the water into a second bottle. No charge will be found in this second bottle, showing that the electrification is not in the water. Fill up the first bottle with ordinary water and it will be found charged. Hence the electrification exists on the glass.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ResinRat2 on October 26, 2010, 01:08:20 AM
Caltech had the excellent series "The Mechanical Universe" that explained many of these concepts, including the Leyden Jar and the concept of the voltaic pile, or battery. The list of episodes is here and is excellent for explaining the concepts of modern physics:

http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1579


Below is the episode that explains the Leyden jar, and also why the voltaic pile or battery is a much better carrier of power:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-556589618585954670&ei=en#


I feel like we keep going back to galvanic reactions to produce electricity here in the forum, and that was done hundreds of years ago. There is no hope of free energy in that direction.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 26, 2010, 06:12:05 AM
i will agree with you RR, the pile is much better than the jar for electricity/electrostatics but what mydevices generate/radiate is something different .....it is a VISIBLE ridiation that i,  and i believe there are many others who will agree, believe that this energy is related to gravity, inertia and density....this field makes most non magnetic materials feel magnetic, like being pulled/pushed around...this radiation is very energetic but gravito-inertial in its nature....very different from but following some of the same rules as electricity.....i hope that there are others that agree with this...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ResinRat2 on October 26, 2010, 12:47:08 PM
Hello David, thanks for the reply. I have watched several of your videos; I am still not seeing it. My eyesight is heavily myopic and corrected by very thick lenses/contacts so perhaps refraction through these mediums don't allow the effect to show up well for me.

I will keep looking.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 27, 2010, 09:16:24 AM
edreak....i have friends from NewZeland!....i imagine it is beautiful there!....i just wanted to say thanks for your interest!...david...PS..has anyone heard from smokey2?...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Edreak on October 28, 2010, 12:39:19 AM
Hi David, yeah she's a nice country to live in, just expensive.

Still trying to get my hands on some iron sand, I'm hoping by having a combination of Iron and Silica in the core that it will have a similar effect to what is discussed here:

http://www.jiroolcott.com/blog/?page_id=18

I'd be quite intrigued if indeed it had the lensing effect, but every so often through the charging of the silica it would let out a larger pulse discharge of the lensing effect, a bit like a battery.

I'm a firm believer through our own fault we have supressed and destroyed past technologies that were possessed by other cultures, would be nice to see that what they describe on that site materialises in the PMH.

- Edreak
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on October 28, 2010, 07:19:57 AM
hi David

i got your message, i AM still alive..
sorry ive been AWOL for a while. the economic crisis in the U.S. has had me busier than a beaver in the spring....

unfortunately i dont have a lot of free time to get "caught up" on this thread (or any of the others for that matter..)
during times like this, things like food, sleep, and free-lance energy research have to kind of get put on the backburner..

i hope everything is going well, keep up the good work. i will rejoin you guys as soon as possible.



Sm0ky2
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 28, 2010, 03:36:40 PM
smokey2...everything is going very well thanks.......hope to hear mor from you soon...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: twinbeard on October 29, 2010, 03:43:32 AM
Hi David,

I was down at the Coral Castle earlier this week.  There is some video of the flywheel with what looks like an odd distortion, particularly when i bring the camera down...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMeLNf9t2Bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wsUSqrm4C4

Cheers,
Twinbeard
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on October 29, 2010, 06:12:18 AM
Twin - many thanks for that excellent series of videos.  Very nice indeed.  You're focus not so good on the flywheel.  But I sort of saw it. 

Thanks again.  BTW LOVED the first video as well. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 29, 2010, 08:10:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=672mIWDV90A   a new video...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Edreak on November 02, 2010, 08:56:40 PM
HI David,
I guess my previous post about the silica geo magnetic effect was over looked but no worries.

With the PMH when you charged it up how long did the charges last for?

Have you tried stacking multiple PMH's on top of each other?

What is the max current you have used to charge the PMH?

A few questions to satisfy my curiousity... I've got some Iron Sand arriving today (I hope) so with any luck I may be able to put one together this weekend, now just have to find the Copper wire, oh btw what size copper wire did you use for the coil?

Thanks

Edreak
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on November 03, 2010, 06:44:43 AM
edreak....how areyou doing?....i use a fairly heavy guage of insulated wire, like 20-24....on another forum, i read about magnetite sand from China...it is supposed to be very magnetic'......also manganese oxide is another one i would like to try....i will let you know about the mgnetite sand, cost, where to get it etc....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on November 03, 2010, 08:38:39 AM
edreak....i am very interested in that type of photography!...i have tried the Slclieren method but the air is not being disturbed so no "good" images...my devices will stay charged forever unless the circle is broken [as far as i know] just like a PMH.....david...PS...i usually use a 9.6 volt DC NiCad battery [makita]...i have used a 12v automotive battery once....i need to try the 12v battery again, on the oxide core devices......i do not know if i can add more"flow" to an already charged PMH?....what do you think?......
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on November 03, 2010, 11:07:32 AM
i believe Ed heated those segments past their Curie point before he assembled his wheel so that the iron was "fresh", with no permanent magnetism....scotty [loadstone?] shows that a PMH can be locked with a single long wire that goes through the center of the PMH, not even wraped around either leg!...you need to use a larger wire but it does work.....i can lock steel to ferrite with one wrap of wire... YouTube - david showing ferrite+steel PMH ...i have used a cap from a camera flash to lock a PMH also but i did not notice any difference in the strength of lock .....scotty said with a larger device, the strength of lock varied with input, voltage, amps etc. up to saturation....i think what i need to be looking for is material that can be super- saturated ....possibly an alloy or an oxide mixture...magnetite sand from china? ...the oxide core devices work very well, with plenty of visual radiations [vibrations?] and other super -magnetic [making all materials feel as being push/pulled magneticly] forces, radiating from these devices....replicators are seeing/feeling these SAME things...little by little we are figuring out EXACTLY how to reproduce this radiated wave, every time....for all replicators....this is something very different yet following some of the same sets of rules as electricity or magnetism...we all heard about the plastic film factory and the "wall" produced ...nothing there but an area made "solid" , by an invisible source?....this makes sense if these waves can add density or take the density out of a material ....in my first videos i am spinning a 14 pound quartz geode, with my fingers, it feels as though it has lost some of its mass and feels light. at this same time there is what looks visually like an interference pattern....i believe when these waves interfere or cancel,is when these effects are at their best....in affect, cancelling out some of an objects mass/inertia/gravity, it is all the same thing...the static wall shows us that something can cause invisible density or mass?...i propose that if a density can be manufactured, then so can its opposite, that can take the density/mass out...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on November 07, 2010, 09:45:22 PM
if i spin an object, say a hollow metal sphere, does the object gain mass?...does it get more dense?....a spinning mass is the oposite of the earths gravity .....more dense in the middle and less dense moving out from the center of mass.....is there any REAL models of the earths gravity?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Judges on November 12, 2010, 02:07:53 AM
David Lanbright,I offer my sincere apologies for this Forum,,Your Subject was treated un-fairly,,,many who wished to post did not,It is easy to see why,reading back over the thread.

I DO hope you will contuie to post,,somewhere,,
please let me know where this is still being discussed.

Joe in Texas
i have no problem in being able to build entire setup
in 2-3 hour max,pls,keep us informed.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on November 16, 2010, 10:34:08 PM
David, "Real" models are hard to come by.  There are fairly accepted
models that work well, if outside the surface diameter of the planet,
but get more difficult to figure once beneath.  (Looong Story...)

I'm still on my first, basic unit, made from the pipe segments, and
have yet to get a good "Lock".  I'm sure it's my problem, as the
same metal, in smaller dimentions, locks like a charm.

Sorry I haven't posted, but I have no useful results, so didn't want
to mess things up.  Be assured, I'm still lurking about and very
interested.  (I can see the effect on the videos I saved, but
can't yet re-produce the effect.  Is it more noticeable once the
recording is viewed, or is real-life viewing better??)
.......for me and other replicators the effect is best live for sure....just remember the effect is very subtle....loner, i must thank you for taking the time to build/expirement with this....i know you will get it, i can see your persistence!....doyou read any of the other forums i post on? they might help?......but anyway thank you.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on November 18, 2010, 05:47:30 PM
 

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this is for anyone with a working replication...TRY THIS!...get some vermiculite and put a small amount in a dish in the center of the device [like the video] and rotate back and forth.....the vermiculite starts doing some strange things.....i starts to behave like a liquid!...sometimes it keeps rotating when the rotor stops....try it....i have never seen anything like this....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Tenbatsu on November 19, 2010, 04:21:17 AM
David, do you have a video of this in action?

If true, I wonder what type of energy this device is generating to cause such an effect.



Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on November 19, 2010, 11:13:45 PM
...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRnWXHNBwC8   .this is the vermiculite video...sometimes it seems as though the vermiculite sometimes tries to rotate around a different axis....very strange....david...do no worry if you do not see this in the video, but do try this....screamin vern, you gotta try and see this!...its cheap and easy!...vern, i know your replication works, you are gonna be amazed!....if you cannot find any vermiculite, i will send you some, it is that important that you see and verify what my friends and i have seen....david..
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Tenbatsu on November 20, 2010, 03:45:52 AM
http://www.scientific.net/AMR.96.1 (http://www.scientific.net/AMR.96.1)

It seems that vermiculite can absorb radioactivity and is being researched as a way to reduce the impact of radioactive waste. 

Have you tried to use a Geiger counter on your device? 

If not I would definitely try to obtain one and test it out.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on November 22, 2010, 09:16:17 AM
i will bet the universities have a geiger counter!....i will find out.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on November 29, 2010, 02:48:41 PM
Lambright, you seem like a nice guy but you have been bumbling on this topic here and at Energetic Forum for a good part of a year with thousands of posts.  I'm not sure you have much to 'boast' about as regards what 'your' device can or cannot do.  Right now it cannot do a damn useful thing and you continue to play and post useless videos which don't really show the viewer anything.
Having said this, I KNOW that the Leedskalnin wheel/pmh produces these effects, therefore dont think I am refuting what you have to say.  Where you are failing big time is in your scientific methodology.  You run around like a little kid, freezing water, doing this and doing that, posting videos and trying to convince people....THIS IS NOT SCIENTIFIC METHOD!  For a start....forget trying to convince the audience of anything....are you a believer?  If the answer is yes, then start building your 'evidence locker' and decide where you want to take this technology.  If you want to attain funding or come out with a useful product you will not achieve this by roping in half interested forum people meanwhile acting like a child yourself who has Attention Deficit Disorder because he can't stay focussed on one track.

Until then all you have is a mystical novelty that isn't doing you or humanity any good.

E-Goose...................sorry for wasting your time...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: IotaYodi on November 29, 2010, 05:18:20 PM
When a common laser light is pulsed at it and you feel a force I consider that more than a novelty. You can consider a magnet a novelty as its still shrouded in mystery. Yet University's still study it.

Wild Idea for multiple units.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on November 29, 2010, 07:21:02 PM
thttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFXBft8rGiU    here is one useful thing... david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nievesoliveras on November 29, 2010, 07:48:51 PM
@lambright you are a good person!
Greetings!

Jesus
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Lakes on November 30, 2010, 12:01:34 PM
Difficult to see on the video, buy a cheapo laser pointer and some white card, this will prove to all that the effect you describe is happening as the laser dot should move on the card when your device rotates.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 07, 2011, 10:20:49 AM
hi ...i have done something interesting.....i was experimenting with some gold leaf and i succeeded in making it paramagnetic...i was able to pick it up with a magnet..this was done by putting the leaf between the junction of a PMH and energizing it...i left it like that a few hours and now part of the leaf sticks to a magnet...i am not sure of the impurities in my leaf....but in any case it worked.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: MasterPlaster on January 07, 2011, 01:24:01 PM
hi ...i have done something interesting.....i was experimenting with some gold leaf and i succeeded in making it paramagnetic...i was able to pick it up with a magnet..this was done by putting the leaf between the junction of a PMH and energizing it...i left it like that a few hours and now part of the leaf sticks to a magnet...i am not sure of the impurities in my leaf....but in any case it worked.....david

Very interesting but just a reminder, alchemi was about turning other metals in to gold and noy visa-versa! LOL.


Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 08, 2011, 09:36:49 PM
Here is a useful test idea . Double blind testing will add more credence to these effects . First , the optical effect . The experimenter first needs a witness who can see this effect . First set up the apparatus , and have the witness confirm that he[she can see the optical effect[glimmer]. Now have the witness leave the room .Now unlock the device . [with the oxide device you can possibly unlock it with a burst of low voltage AC through the coil , but confirm this with compass tests ] Call back the witness . is the effect still there? Repeat the tests at least 20 times keeping a careful record as to wether the device is activated or not . Does the witness see the effect only when the device is energised? Repeat tests with several witnesses if possible . Use the same test protocol in tests with the laser and "feeling a pulse" .The purpose of this post is to add a bit of credence to what everyone admits is a subtil phenomena . I believe I see the optical effect on one video , but as I have only one working eye , I can not always believe what I see . Hoping someone will find the time to run these tests .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 09, 2011, 03:47:08 PM
This thread is , in my opinion , one of the most important threads in the history of the forum . For the first time we have the possibility of a verifiable phenomenon unknown to classic physics . If physics can be wrong in one case , it can be wrong in others . Also it draws attention to the works of Leedskalnin . What other wonders may be revealed by trying to replicate his other experiments ? I would like to do some experiments myself , but first , I need answers to a couple of questions .
        First , in the iron oxide core type device , does anyone know a reliable way to unlock or de-energise the device? See my suggestion in last post .
        Second , has the glimmer and the laser effect been observed in the oxide core device only , or in the iron horseshoe -with-keeper type as well?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 12, 2011, 10:04:17 AM
 i first started seeing the distortions when i was using a toroidal single junction PMH.....a piece of 1/2" re-bar bent into a circle with a 1/8" gap....david 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 12, 2011, 08:28:43 PM
@david lambright .Hi David and thanks for your reply .Do not let the Naysayers get to you . Your discovery could well be as important as , say Xrays . I need to do some experiments of my own , but need a starting point . OK so you first observed the optical effect  with a re-bar PMH. Can you tell me
1 . length and diameter of rebar [approx]
2 . Approx wire size and number of turns of coil .
3. Power source and type of power supply . {eg 12 volt car battery etc]
OK that will get me started .
4 . In the case of the oxide core device , how do you check if it is energised or not ,and how do you de-energise it .
5 . In some videos , not necessarily yours , I have seen a compass needle spin when held near an energised PMH . The needle seems to slow and stop . The question is , has the PMH become de-energised at this point . If you cant answer this I will find out when I build my rebar PMH.


OK I know that is a ,lot of questions ,but I beg you to try and answer each one .Also is there another discussion forum for this topic , and could you provide a link please?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 13, 2011, 02:44:57 AM
1...1/2"re-bar, about 12" diameter circle...the mating surfaces must be flat to each other with a 1/8" gap.....2..the wire is about 16 to 20 guage, about 50 turns, close to the gap...3...i used a 9.6 volt cordless drill battery but a car style 12 volt battery will work...just be careful!...the wire can get hot quick...4...with any of my devices, i energize it first one way, then reverse the battery and do it again...a compass will move to a different position each time.....when the compass reverses each time you reverse the battery....it is energized.....david
                                                                                                                                                                   
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 13, 2011, 02:48:59 AM
http://teep.forumco.com/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=1     http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5690-gravity-waves-found.html      http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3798&p=44730#p44730         
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: magnetman12003 on January 13, 2011, 06:05:05 AM
Put everything about it on the You Tube and list all thats required to construct it.   I MEAN ALL DATA. 

Then prepare yourself for the flow of nay sayers making negative comments without lifting a finger to replicate. Those interested will contact you to attempt a replication.
Make it an open source project so anyone can duplicate it for ""FREE"". That will take away comments from those that think you are scamming them.

If you cant or wont do that then you want either cash or fame for your efforts and you will have a hard road to travel.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 13, 2011, 12:43:10 PM
hi magnet....everything should be on youtube...step by step build of one of my devices  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjh5OE6yerk   that is a link to step one....i also post at EF and TEEP forums....plenty of replicators are getting these same results, not all though...we are working on that....if you need more info, google search "lambright energy device" that should give you more info...if you have questions, ask, i will try and answer anything....i have kept this open source from the beginning for the reasons you stated in your post...thank you for your interest!
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 13, 2011, 03:15:41 PM
i do actually have ADD.....fyi.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: IotaYodi on January 13, 2011, 04:46:28 PM
Quote
Put everything about it on the You Tube and list all thats required to construct it.
Basically hes done that. He has also made some up and sent them to a few people here for free. Some may not see the same effect just because of location. Still dealing with magnetic fields and the lay of the land like mountains may come into play as well as local materiel,humidity,altitude etc.
 I dont see any untruth in his personal observations. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: magnetman12003 on January 13, 2011, 06:27:56 PM
hi magnet....everything should be on youtube...step by step build of one of my devices  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjh5OE6yerk   that is a link to step one....i also post at EF and TEEP forums....plenty of replicators are getting these same results, not all though...we are working on that....if you need more info, google search "lambright energy device" that should give you more info...if you have questions,
ask, i will try and answer anything....i have kept this open source from the beginning for the reasons you stated in your post...thank you for your interest!

I posted my generator device that way also --Open source--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_iyr_ng1Us

Tom



Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 13, 2011, 07:08:34 PM
@David Lambright . Many Thanks .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 14, 2011, 04:38:50 AM
neptune!....thanks for your kind words!...i believe that this discovery will be the start of many concerning this energy and the fields and the way it radiates....for everyone who reads these posts, thank you for your interest!....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 14, 2011, 12:04:22 PM
Hi David .I would urge anyone who has repeatable results to run some double blind tests as I described earlier . I personally believe this phenomenon is real . However , as a salutary warning ,Go on google and search for NRays , an effect that many top physicists believed to be real , but eventually proved to be false . On the other hand , look at Cold fusion . Poo-pooed by the establishment , it was actually held up as an example of pathological science . But according to Peswicki News , a demonstation is to be held in Italy shortly of a working Cold fusion reactor , in front of accredited witnesses .
           We all respect Leedskalnin for the miracles he performed , But using tools and techniques Ed never dreamed of ,we have the ability to go beyond what he did . I don't recall him talking about visible radiation ,so , David , you have already exceeded Ed in at least one area . Big Brother ain't going to like it , so you need to present a watertight case .Double blind tests are the way to go . It is quite possible that you could be eligible for James Randi one million dollar prize .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: FatBird on January 14, 2011, 06:20:55 PM
@ David Lambright

Thank you for sharing everything David.  Please tell us more.  Can you post a wiring diagram or schematic?  Can you put a video here or on YouTube?

Thanks.

.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 14, 2011, 06:48:29 PM
@FatBird .Just go on youtube and put David Lambright into the search box . Dozens of videos , all you need .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 14, 2011, 09:05:48 PM
@David lambright ,or anyone who can help . I am trying to get the parts together for an oxide core device .I am stuck with the iron oxide . apparently there are three types of iron oxide . can someone give me the name and chemical formula of the one i need please .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 15, 2011, 08:43:51 PM
Not a lot of activity on this thread at the moment . Its beginning to look like my own private thread! Do not forget that I am still looking for the chemical formula for the correct iron oxide to use in the oxide core device . Has anyone had results using vermiculite with an oxide core device .
       Here is another thought . When I was young and foolish I believed all sorts of supernatural flim flam .James Randi got me out of that . However , in my youth , I read of an experiment to "sensitise" the eyes , to enable one to see the human aura . I think that one had to look through a glass cell "bottle?" containing a dye called Dicianin  or dicyanin . Whether one saw the aura through the glass cell , or if this was just training for the eyes was never made clear . I actually bought an expensive pair of goggles that allegedly worked on the same principal . No instructions were given , and I remember no positive results . I ended up using them to ride my motorcycle in ! [not recommended] My point is that just perhaps , similar techniques could enable one to more easily see the radiant energy . Please let me know what you think , its getting a bit boring here on my own .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 15, 2011, 09:27:21 PM
OMG I may have opened a can of worms here! Time is limited tonight but I just spent 10 minutes on google studying Dicyanine [correct spelling .] Basically the facts in my last post are correct but most sources agree that Dicyanine is used for eye training . A warning is given not to use this if you suffer from any disease of the retina , including but not restricted to glaucoma.Here is a brief resume of what I learnt so far .
1 There are several types of Dicyanin , including C13H371IN202 which may or not be the right one .
2Discovered by Henry Kilner who published a book in 1911
3training is to be limited to one session of30 to 45 seconds . [avoid riding motorcycles]
4This training enables one to see light beyond normal spectrum and to see ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS .
5 The STUFF IS DISOLVED IN ALCOHOL BEFORE USE .
% Dicyanin costs $175 per ounce!
6 Since the 1940s Dicyanin is CLASSIFIED BY THE GOVERNMENT and only available with top security clearance .
 
What exactly is it that they don't want us to see? Was the Philadelphia experiment real? Make your own "They Live" sunglasses .@David Lambright , watch you back ...
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 15, 2011, 10:34:29 PM
Fe3O4..black iron oxide is what i use in my oxide core devices....so far there have been at least five WORKING replications of my first device....i am compiling a list of all of them plus photos of their work....i dont know if anyone has made an oxide core device yet...they are much easier to build...i will post a link as soon as i am done with the video....the main thing is to fill the tube completely with oxide...in the video i will be showing how i did it...a tad dirty....wear gloves and be safe in all your builds...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 15, 2011, 10:44:37 PM
@David Lambright . Many thanks for that info . Can I just say that the facts in my last post are as downloaded from the internet . I cannot confirm them , especially the one about Government Classification , and you must do your own research Also anyone using Dye cells or aura goggles is reminded to observe all safety precautions .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 16, 2011, 07:28:45 PM
Aura Goggles on Ebay at about £41 . No idea if they work or not .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 17, 2011, 04:07:47 PM
Just keeping the topic alive . I dont normally post replies with no substance , but this is no more SPAM than the Golf tips...
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 18, 2011, 01:10:51 AM
....i was using a small piece of calcite and what i feel now is similar to 2 opposing magnets...holding the calcite about 1/4" above the HDPE center...when i feel the push, i keep it in the same spot and the effect starts to grow, it pushes back harder....i cannot tell if it is being pushed or like Ed said about it being magnets that control muscle contraction...in any case it is a very strange sensation....the calcite splits light into 2 streams..Ed did say the streams had to be divided...and then run them against each other...that makes sense with what i have felt...with a convex mirror at the plane, i feel a pushing .but it is so small... just a part of this energy can be reflected...just as X and other waves penetrate materials, i believe this energy will do also..if the streams can be separated using calcite that would be interesting... to separate the N and S into streams, the PMH is used....gravity and levity are like a vortex to a point to vortex...temperature is the zero point ..the PMH is also at that point. ..lets say N = levity, S = gravity...L and G can only go one way so reversal of the polarity at the point and changing the dominant stream of magnetic current, with the PMH...is the how....when a PMH is energized ,an orbit starts...ring the bell a second time and dominance is reversed....if the dominant stream has been reversed properly, the PMH acts as the zero point ...now if the PMH is spun, the gravity does what it knows and goes to the plane but now its carrying the N ...and, levity at the pole and S...any pull of G + N results in a S + L push...these streams would prefer to travel in the metal....so put a S magnet at the plane, just like in the photo of Ed, and spin the device so gravity and the N at the plane...levity and S at the pole that can now be collected at the wire above the device, flowing upward [like heat convection] into the mass above...as the magnet and the rotor pull N and gravity, S and levity flow up the wire , from above the generator, to be used at the quarry..the S being attracted to the north, flows into the stone bringing L with it...i believe that weight, as we experience here on earth, is due to the gravity to levity ratio...this can be changed .every thing has a zero point...at the quarry, the wire that comes from the mass above the pole is copper...steel, i believe was used to cut the stone, but i think the wire was connected to the flat bar he used at the quarry...i also think that because the S attracts N. the flow of L+ S from the tool softened the stone making it easier to work?.......i am pretty sure that this is how it was done..... i have found that the PMH is multi functional and ...i want to prove that this, how Ed .built his castle....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 18, 2011, 09:13:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxfVED7EZsI   a video
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 19, 2011, 01:03:02 PM
more theory.....magnetism is not quite equal...one pole is stronger than the other.....pulsing a PMH twice changes the polarity of the dominant stream...lets say Earth has a dominant N...in my experiments with a toroidal PMH show that polarity is connected to thermal convection...a PMH with a dominant S has thermal convective flows reversed from what is natural on Earths surface...these flows are visible with the naked eye as they dissapate back into the field, like a mirage...the flow has been seen and recorded by many people...this flow of convective force is not connected to heat....just like a magnet, this flow has polarity but its polarity can be reversed...unlike poles attract....so the PMHs dominant S is attracted to Earths N...if you want, try this....energize a PMH two times...take a piece of calcite and lightly hold it near the PMH....you will find that there are places on the ring [circular PMH] that will repel the calcitce crystal...try this cheap and easy expirement for yourself.. .in a PMH, the force flows in the center of the material...we know that this force is magnetic in its nature, holding the keeper on PMH and lighting a bulb shows us this...this ENERGY,being a bi-directional flow.and being magnetic in nature is attracted to the poles of a magnet and since it likes to flow in metal can be coaxed to flow in a wire...everyone has seen the photo of Ed with his hand on his "rotor" right?...why is there the mass of metal ABOVE his device?...this metal mass had to be above the rotor for this polarized flow to accumulate into....a wire from  this over to his quarry ...this half of the flow  being polarized S but now it carries upward  convection, is attracted to Earths N like an upside-down siphon...spinning the rotor  started the flow which would continue to flow from the S wire as long as the siphon didnt break...this flow could then be used to fill the stones with S polarized, upward convective force [levity]....and the same way heat is absorbed, a stone could be filled to its buoyancy point and moved...as the stone "cooled" its weight comes back...this flow of energy is distinct ....it can flow forever...we know that super cooled matter does this, by cooling them to their reverse buoyancy point.....as they warm back up their weight returns....Ed did this exact thing, using the earths natural fields....this is my theory these conclusions were arrived at through experimentation and rediscovery! thanks.......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 19, 2011, 04:50:05 PM
@David Lambright . Hi David and thanks for the info you keep giving us . First a couple of questions . In the experiment where the Calcite crystal is repelled you refer to a circular PMH . With the exception of Leedskalnins horseshoe shaped PMH , all PMH are circular . Did you mean the iron hoop with a gap , the oxide core device , or the device with the pipe segments ? Or does it work with any and all of these .Please give us specific information . You say that the Cristal is repelled from certain points on the ring . How do these points relate to poles on the ring detected by a magnetic compass ?
        The repulsion of the crystal . Does this happen only when the crystal is hand held ? suspend the crystal pendulum style in a thin string , or on two strings in a vee formation to prevent it spinning . Can you cause it to take up a position with the string NOT vertical? We need to show if this is pure repulsion , or some form of Bio-magnetic effect or other Biological Phenomena . I do not want to appear critical , or perhaps I do in a constructive way . I am one of your biggest fans , but for replication , we need specific info . And anyway , surely my reply is better than being ignored? Please let us know your thoughts on this.  Regards , neptune .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 19, 2011, 07:25:27 PM
the crystal is repelled from any energized PMH...in fact most objects are repelled at these points copper, gold etc...the crystal feels like the force builds or grows....i urge anyone to get their hands dirty and find out for themselves...i think i have tied everything on a string and held it above a PMH....my brothers tungsten wedding ring had a good reaction on the PMH...i would use a standard PMH to start anyway....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 21, 2011, 06:34:32 AM
hey, this is part of a thesis/ theory that i have been working on forever it seems...i think that these ideas will change physics...i hope you too will find simple answers to the problems that plague the classic and quantum models...  there are 2 energy streams and they are polar by nature....the singularity is split into a ring...this ring is bi-directional, super-fluid and equal, effectively cancelling each other....twist this into an 8 [infinity] and you have two lobes..take a pen...draw an infinity sign...there are 2 streams so draw it again...the streams still cancel each other...take your pen and draw that sign again this time draw  two circles on top of each other and then at the point where you started and draw two more circles finishing the infinity sign...you see the lobes do not cancel now but you have a direction to move from< the point>....move either direction and we have attraction/repulsion  N and S,magnetism etc....movement causes this  attraction/repulsion so one lobe is bigger ...doppler...[that is why one pole is stronger}...so now we see that from the singularity we get a ring [or disc]  bi- dimensional/directional..add movement and you will have time behind you, space ahead....the only reason we experience any of these forces is the difference in lobe size ...due to acceleration/spin,one lobe is dominant [red shift problem]....this theory was written by david lambright on Thur.1/20/2011... we KNOW about super fluidity, conductivity etc...these forces are all easily manipulated...convection is temperature dependent  but bi-directional....the floor you  stand on consider even or rest temperature, and one foot =1 degree....bring a point into the room five degrees warmer, and you will have a spike or if colder a pit...vortex/anti vortex...convection pulls down the point till it reaches an even temp...this is the same mechanism that is gravity....one lobe bigger than the other to create the attraction/repulsion that we feel as gravity..there are two supreme forces that all the forces arise from ...the math will prove this....    ...the 90 degree or linear to radial interaction;...a particle, at absolute zero, moving through space becomes a line....any interaction with anything takes  energy from it, but since energy can only be transfered,any interaction with a boundary, turns into rotation, bi directionally....there will be a lot more about this and the experiments that led me here....thanks...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: shylo on January 21, 2011, 02:23:25 PM
Hi David , I first heard of leedskalin when I joined this site (not very long ago) and have been reading as much as I can. I've watched a couple of your videos ,the one that sticks with me is the one with the squished pieces of galv pipe, but I need a link to detailed construction so I can replicate. Could you or perhaps somebody else provide me with the link(s)?.........thanx for any help ...shylo
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 23, 2011, 12:13:08 PM
Physics Model
Hey Van, what i meant was square the numbers by squaring one hundred times any other number ends in a nine before it goes back to one. Try this with both numbers, .7129 and .6105195. That point is the infinite point. Super conductivity and super fluidity show us that the infinite exists. Any number that you do this with with either come up ones and zeros, or nines. Pi shows us the infinite by squaring the numbers .7129 all the way back near zero you will get 98. That is the point of incidence. Square the next one, .61059195 and you will get the same thing, .99998. then it goes to one?????Every other number squared to the end becomes.99999 one. EVERY ONE BUT THOSE 2....try it...pull up your windows calculator and see for your self ....see how they are a line of either 99999s or 0000000s Notice how the ones and zeros co-relate to the shape of inside a sphere. The inside of the sphere is equal to one. draw a circle....imagine 99999s with their tails sticking through with a 0 on the outside ...with a value of 1....a FULL sphere ..EVERY WHERE BUT 2 POINTS....do the calculations again .... But yet, every quarter is equal to one. now multiply .1 times .314 We know about super fluidity, super conductivity etc. This proves infinity. expansion at a ratio of one to four Leedskalin's numbers show us the angle of the infinite ray. Think about it like this, you are standing on a bubble and the floor is zero degrees and infinite. At eye level is the next boundary level. An infinite point is an infinite line, inside of a sphere is equal to a point mathematically. Pi times radius squared. Now you realize that it is a reflection of the infinite. No matter what number you put in a computer calculator etc. and square it a hundred times only two numbers end in 98 before they go to one, this proves the infinite ray mathematically. Infinite ray is unidirectional, infinite line is bidirectional. Infinite line can become infinite disc, infinite bi-directionality gives us spin which gives us attraction and repulsion which is magnetism and gravity. Why is pi only infinite at one point? Because it is a perfect mathematically correct reflection of the infinite. Phase shift problems with parabolic mirrors, the reflected ray from a parabolic mirror does not phase shift again. The main ray upon reflection shifts. This proves reflection. The Electron Phase Shift some of this theory applies also.....i need to post this but my next posts will be Leedskalnins method .....and the experimental proof that is irrefutable......pull up your windows calculator in the mean time and see......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 23, 2011, 12:50:16 PM
@Shylo .The info you seek is already on youtube .enter potatoheadist in the search box and all Davids Videos will come up .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Judges on January 23, 2011, 05:52:44 PM
In Regard To:::« Reply #681 on: January 19, 2011, 04:50:05 PM »neptune,,,,or it may have been another.

Keeping this Subject Alive,,,,I remember making a "David Lambrite',Folder with,,?/?,on my desktop,,this was,saved of course,,,seems several mouths,,,ago???

Interesting,,,we need confirmation of other experimenters/results.

I will go back and see what I have,,and the work involved to duplicate said machinery, electrical/apparatus.

I have been Blessed to be a really good DIY'r,,and have tools.

I will post again tomorrow,if possible.
J.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Ghost_Rider on January 24, 2011, 03:41:50 AM
There is a book titled "The Golden Vortex" about the "Oregon Vortex" where objects look taller, shorter or crooked.  In this book, the author talks about his experiments with magnet that indicated that the poles had different properties.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 24, 2011, 07:43:34 AM
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu6L2M2gpu4&feature=related   this video shows the 4 components of a di-pole magnetic field..... the one main and 3 reflections.....the reflection of the beam puts it out of phase with the main beam this is what permanent magnetism is.....the reflected beam does not shift....the mechanics of it are this;...infinite ray is reflected.no phase shift....reflected ray is split and shifts....this produces the attractive and repulsive force....a laser uses these principles ...this infinite beam or ray, i will show, makes all of the forces... Eienstien equation, E-mc2,  shows this form exactly.....this also explains why i felt a pulling/pushing when i used mirrors in my experiments... .   http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CEEQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fambermd.org%2FQuestions%2Fgibbs.html&ei=O_o8TdvhBI3GsAPUw9HQAw&usg=AFQjCNH7vvOVQbmkwawVNTcp9X4e5WX0Uw&sig2=LF6NA0Dai0dp-IFifBXUMQ   in this article, they talk about Gibbs energy and its forward only directionality, AND only when 0>1...but this is a reflected beam so maybe its 9>1 ...like the square root math shows...this is exactly describing the forward only infinite ray i am talking about.......light follows this same pattern...in my experiments, using a laser, i was able to pump the energy to a higher level, increasing the visible flow of energy....the principles are correct.....the math says this is correct... experiments by me and others are saying this is correct....i have seen this energy flowing.....checkout the ferro fluid video again...at 30 sec see how the shape wavers?....this is the same type of distortion seen around devices....if this is nothing, it will fade away ....but it is what i claim and it will continue to grow.....i will post vids when i get some good footage.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 26, 2011, 04:27:13 PM
http://sn113w.snt113.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=0&messageId=6f7418bb-2924-11e0-a10c-002264c154b4&Aux=54|0|8CD8B485920B590||0|0|0|0||&maxwidth=220&maxheight=160&size=Att     http://sn113w.snt113.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=1&messageId=6f7418bb-2924-11e0-a10c-002264c154b4&Aux=54|0|8CD8B485920B590||0|0|0|0||&maxwidth=220&maxheight=160&size=Att   these are a couple of overlays to visualize this model
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 27, 2011, 05:24:45 AM
Sign In Sign In these are the overlays i made to show how Mandelbrot's math is correct [mirror reverse] and this is a depiction of not only of quantum mechanics, atomic structure, molecular structure etc, all the way up to planetary, galactic and universe and universal. Edward Leedskalin knew these facts and he didnt know how to tell anybody about it. Try to describe to someone you have never seen before. We know the speed of light is 186,000 mps. This is a constant. The universe expands at that rate. Inside of the spheres infinite, outside the sphere speed of light. This is what gives rise to all forces. I will show in this thesis that all forces are phase shifted reflections of the infinite. I will also show that this infinte line exists in all forces we know. Magnetism has four parts, one infinite three reflections. The Fibonacci sequence Is the spiral of life. I will show also that the Torricelli trumpet is no longer a paradox. I will also show that this shape goes from an infinite point to an infinite circle, being the mathematical mirror of a black hole. in the overlays you can see the shapes of permanent magnetism (Leedskalin). I will also show the exact mechanics of everything that i state. I will show through experimentation that levitation is absolutely factual. The ancients knew this. the spheres overlay depicts the numbers one through 10 starting at a point. Layers of numbers, shells out to the number nine. Through square root math. We can plot a point anywhere inside the sphere. .9999999999999999 = 1. and vice versa. I will show through this model that hydrogen being the lightest model orbits at 1. The plot, 3.14, is a mirror reflection of .314. they are equal. decimal math shows this to be true. Think of it like this, an infinite number of lines form a point streaming outwards are the numbers .123456789123456789123456789. from anywhere on the point those numbers go out in a straight line. Check into this. Fibonacci's curves is a spiral vortex looking towards the infinite..... david.....ps...if this is not true it will break down and fall apart.....try and break it!
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: MasterPlaster on January 27, 2011, 10:03:29 AM
http://sn113w.snt113.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=0&messageId=6f7418bb-2924-11e0-a10c-002264c154b4&Aux=54|0|8CD8B485920B590||0|0|0|0||&maxwidth=220&maxheight=160&size=Att     http://sn113w.snt113.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=1&messageId=6f7418bb-2924-11e0-a10c-002264c154b4&Aux=54|0|8CD8B485920B590||0|0|0|0||&maxwidth=220&maxheight=160&size=Att   these are a couple of overlays to visualize this model

Hello Dave,

These links do not work. I get the login for an account. Please clarify.

Also The speed of light is not constant!
I am not a physist but I read this some where.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 29, 2011, 10:09:03 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ovqoVl.jpg       and       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMCf7SNU ... re=related http://www.newser.com/story/86707/nasa- ... shots.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Juliasetsdkland1.jpg http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... ,r:3,s:168 http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... 9,r:13,s:0 http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... 29,r:9,s:0 http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... ,r:9,s:196 http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... 9,r:2,s:64 http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... ,r:5,s:701 strata...thanks ...there are many replicators who have built my devices , [Leedskalnin inspired], and have seen/felt th attraction /repulsion/heat type waves[gravity , inertia etc.] these devices make...this is only the beginning....the westinghouse EMS chart is awesome!...you can imagine a beam of white light being reflected in a spherical mirror to create our spectrum....check out the vids on utube.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMMFMz-ZUMg ........david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 30, 2011, 06:15:16 AM
Tesla was brilliant....he KNEW that energy could be transfered wireless.....such insight....i can show now an energy transfer beyond anything imaginable.....read his bio....look at his designs.....you will find all the similarities with Egyptian and ancient builders..... http://htmlimg1.scribdassets.com/9rrdo3 ... d8/000.png http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... 29,r:3,s:0 in all things there is an infinite part.....sound = feedback loop.......light = feedback loop in a video system....[point a video cam at a monitor connected to it and see].....time and space, gravity and levity MUST have an infinite part!...[they do].....the math should MATCH exactly these physical processes,...[not yet!] but it will!.......the math [square] needs to be reversed to work....POINT 314....always measure from the point....divide Pi by .314....= 10.00507....???......do this with 7.129 divide by .314....=22.7038 ???? try this divide 1.23456789 by .123456789= 10....divide again and you will get a # starting with 81.0000 ....play with this and you will see a spherical number shell emerge....point at the center ...1s around that 2s in a shell around the 1s etc....out to a shell of 9s that is equal to 1 ... Pi is a spiral to infinity the decimal point is the method of reversal....a ring of 9s with 1/2 the dia of a sphere are equal playing with this i have found sets of #s that do not change above the decimal point...except one place in the # that repeats 123456789123456789 like an orbit?.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 30, 2011, 06:18:20 AM
division IS reverse multiplication......a spherical reflection that is illogical....try this...divide 3.14 by .314 = 10...now press = again and again keep going......watch the #s grow from the decimal point.....they will get bigger till they collapse back to 1....the first digit stays in the 10s...bouncing around like an elliptical orbit......or divide 1.1 by .1 = 11....press = again.....try this one 9.9 by .11....or 1.2 by .12.....keep pressing =and see where the go some #s seem to bounce around .....others spiral out Pi is the spiral to infinity....think of like this...a globe with Torricelli's trumpet puncturing the globe , small end of trump down...the mouth of trump 1/2 the diameter of the globe .....now think of the edge of the mouth as row or circle of 9s....and the shell of the sphere is also 9s.....the trumps inside goes to infinity...the sphere having a measurable surface......you cannot by nature, measure infinity from a non infinite point of view...math tells us of infinity i am going to show it......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: MasterPlaster on January 30, 2011, 10:16:44 AM
David, Thank you very much for trying to share the information but I have difficulty reaching the links you have posted. Typically: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... ,r:3,s:168 is a shortened version of the real link and the "..." in the middle could be anyones guess. I know you are trying some fascinating discoveries and feel frustrated that I can not read up on them.

Many regards

M
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: neptune on January 30, 2011, 08:43:21 PM
@David Lambright .You are obviously a gifted mathematician . My maths is of a standard that I can calculate all the things I need in everyday life , and in any experiments I need to do . Ohms law i can deal with . I suspect that puts me in the top 10% of the population . Let us not forget that mathematics is largely an abstract thing that attempts to model reality . Myself , and probably the majority of readers here are first and foremost interested in practical demonstrations of phenomena . The maths can come later to quantify these phenomena . Also bear in mind that many of these mathematical coincidences only exist because we use a system based on ten . If we were to change it to a 7 based system say . These coincidences would vanish , probably to be replaced by new ones . What i am saying is this . You levitate , and then I will be prepared to listen to hours of theory to prove just how far your feet are from the floor .I am reminded of a Limerick .
          A young mathematician named Hall
          Had a hexahedronical ball .
          And the cube of its weight,
          Times his pecker , plus eight .
           Was three eighths of five sixths of f*ck all!
sorry , couldn't resist it .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on February 07, 2011, 05:52:58 PM
the moon at coral castle
is not a moon ...it is an orbit....i have made an iron oxide ring using foam insulation as a mold ....i energized it 2 times ONLY....at exactly the point of the CENTER of the lesser orbit...i found something quite extraordinary!....at that point, there is an energy vortex that is TANGIBLE....this energy is REAL....all the greats talked about it, the ancients used it ...Hutchinson,Tesla, pioneers in new energy methods showed some of what it can do....a PMH energized 2 times reverses the normal convective flow, hot/up, cold/down...heres the thing, what good does that do? gravity is that exact flow....i have tried to show this  the flame or the upward convective force is anti gravity...i think we all agree on that...here lies the question..is that force, hot/up, cold/down, tied to temperature ??...the fact that any rise of temperature creates a convection current to equalize is insightful...if we could get something sufficiently cold, it should resist gravity and flow up..supercooled helium does exactly this...this is fact...but it is difficult to bring the background temperature down enough to achieve anti gravity...superconduction is antigravity....oxides make the best superconductors this is also fact....a PMH made of Fe3o4 will retain its orbiting magnetic energy indefinitely.... the energy can be seen when keeper is removed....this is fact...when the PMH is in the energized state, this force, magnetic in nature flows freely in the center of the PMH material.....think of it like an infinite spring ...in the PMH it is stretched thin always spinning forward with a right hand twist....when the keeper is pulled off , the spring coils wind out getting big enough to affect the copper coil, and lighting the bulb, for an instant....this is fact...the force IS there, and is magnetic in nature, it flows super conductive INSIDE the PMH...are you in agreement so far? ..when a PMH is energized, there is helical spin of magnetic energy...this gives rise to a directional temperature flow....hot/up, cold/down, but not necessarily in that order....in an ambient or even temperature, it does not take much to change convection direction it would be impossible to do so otherwise....there is a balance point....if you can get the flow started at the balance point, it will continue to flow that way .....so now, cold is up and hot is down....try to visualize Eds rotor, at the plane, a disc extends outward, at the poles a line ...where the line meets the disc, a funnel or vortex forms on both sides...an anti bubble, a vacuum, a cavity in space.....now this is where it gets tricky...ok so the convective flows are reversed, there has to be TWO flows, direction does not matter at this point, but GRAVITY is still uneven...to reverse gravity, you must start at the balance point.....remember the Sumerian pictograph? ... the figure has his foot on the balance point, the gravitational balance point...[zero point]....the PMH is real ...the magnetic energy it holds [orbital motion] is real....it is super flowing at room temperature [it flows indefinitely] is also true....the PMH, creates a dual orbit of energy...to utilize this flow, it must be harnessed... just as you siphon water TOWARDS the center of gravity, the flow away from gravity must start in a siphon....where it enters the metal wire, [hook above the pole]it is a vortex, HOT now being the down flow [at the PMH] starts a whirlpool at the hook siphon and starts to flow......is any one grasping this?...i KNOW that there must be other replicators that have come to these same conclusions by experimentation....my devices radiate energy this is a FACT.....the mechanics are being explained so anyone can understand......more soon.....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on February 14, 2011, 04:20:02 AM
axicon lenses
my re-discovery of this energy [Leedskalnin] goes hand and hand with spin field theory...there is plenty of stuff about it online....think about why i could not measure it, but could SEE it with my eyes ..this is not something i made up, this is just as real as you and me and the Earth we live on....the russians were using ferrite magnets....i am using a ferrite core , energized like a PMH, and getting the SAME type of results!...this tells me that the force responsible for the effects DOES NOT reside in the permanent magnets but in the deeper force, the force we KNOW exists, orbiting inside the core of a PMH....we know it is magnetic in nature, but gravitic also....one might argue that it is an electric force, but we also know that electricity is not a fundamental force.....i was reading about axicon lens properties and i think that might be KEY in utilizing this energy....if you have a PMH, and a couple of binocular prisms, try this...hold the prisms, widest side facing each other, start about 1" apart and bring them together, with the charged PMH nearby.....i wont even say yet what i feel till a little later after you have been able to try this...interesting....i assure everyone who reads this, i do not have anything to sell, i urge you to find out for yourself, there is more than meets the eye, and deeper things still, than we could ever believe, the only limits we have are ones we place upon ourselves......david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on February 14, 2011, 07:18:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPx5t2U7FfA    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StP7TEP9JP4   check these vids...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Lakes on February 14, 2011, 11:03:32 AM
Yup, I can see the effect with the black light, its very subtle, but its there.

If you put a piece of white paper under there it should show up even better.

But do a comparison test on the same surface away from the device with the black light to rule out camera noise etc.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on February 21, 2011, 05:36:41 PM
hi everyone
i just have to say, after reading all you guys posts, you guys are very smart and have really got this thread moving in a good direction, [you guys have brains, i HAD one, once] anyway i thank you all for your help with this...i have to agree with farmhand, i cannot claim any thing as my own, i am just trying to help bring it together....this all started a couple years ago ,[actually when i was 5] i was messing around with magnet motor designs and then i remembered Ed...a lot of years ago i had our library get an original copy of Magnetic Current....it was small so i copied all the pages...i remember it took a week for our library to get it..i think i was in my late 20s so around 20 years ago...the words he used, "Perpetual Motion Holder" always caught my attention..so a couple years ago, i made my first PMH, with a 16d nail, bent into a U about an inch tall..i used wire from a transformer and a 9v battery to energize .. i made more Us [no coil] and found i could link a a few them using just the one small coil [5 or 6 in a circle] it was then i realized Eds flywheel IS a PMH....i started to experiment with toroid shapes, small at first and with a 1/3 section cut out [2 junctions] and two coils...i like the single junction ring because it would clang when it was energized ...i found that metals seemed to behave strangely, especially a ring shape spinning...i tried different coil configurations/ sizes/wire materials etc...i kept thinking i saw the wires move, so i marked their positions..they were NOT moving...there was something distorting the image....what was this?..WHY was this?...i had to find out..i set about making the distortion more "visible" so that i might understand it better...i found that not just steel or iron would work but ferrite/Fe3o4 oxide will work BETTER for my purposes.....i have made one out of ferro fluid and one using mercury as the core..i found that quartz and other crystal seemed to reflect or absorb this energy..i had to build something similar to Eds, to see if the field was stronger in that type of design..i did, it was..while working with that configuration, i kept feeling like a pulling/attraction at the poles and a pushing/repulsion at the plane..i could see this energy and it is exactly a double helix spiral form!. could it be that this energy i was seeing, was in fact the same type of energy Ed used at coral castle?..i had to find out....i went over everything i could find about Ed and his castle..in some of his photos there is to me, evidence of this energy being used..the shadows in some of the photos looked to me like they were distorted, as if by a heat type wave, when the rest of the photo was in focus...the energy i was seeing was exactly that form!..like a mirage ...this was starting to make sense to me now..Ed told us that the energy he used was NOT electricity or magnetism, but something different, deeper than those forces...a SOUND BASE to start from...i KNOW that this visible distortion, is just a part of this energy...when i watch videos now, like Hutchinson's, i can see the same distortion happening...i am compiling a list of videos that i can see the distortions in....
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on February 21, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
hi everyone part 2
so i believe i am on the track, i keep following the clues...back to a year ago, i was at my parents house, and by a freak accident, i stuck a Q-tip completely through my eardrum..it hurt only at first, by the time i got to emergency care, 30 minutes or so, the pain was gone...the doctor that saw me said there was a big hole all the way through...the whole time it was healing i had ZERO pain....but the NOISE inside my head ..the crackling popping CONSTANT noise was making me crazy...then the weirdest thing began...it was like the hole in my ear was letting in information, about the energy fields i was seeing...i could not slowdown in my search/experimenting of this energy...my girlfriend, family and friends started to think i had really flipped...to the point of wanting to commit me...i had strange dreams, like someone instructing me which direction to pursue in my search for answers about this energy....in my waking hours, the constant NOISE became like a voice, or some kind of instructions or information that was able to guide me somewhat in my search....it was a very very strange feeling ...when i finally was able to SHOW this energy, they realized i was not crazy, THEY COULD SEE IT ALSO!!..i had to show this to everyone but i also needed to explain WHY it was happening...first a short family history....2 brothers [dad & uncle], married 2 sisters [mom & aunt] so that the kids are double cousins...in each family there are 13 children...7 boys, 6 girls in each family...i am the oldest male and i was born ON my fathers birthday....in my aunts family, the youngest daughter was born ON my aunts birthday!...we have always been very close ..kindof like a reflection...on mi girlfriends birthday, May 15, i started posting what i had found on the net...that evening, my uncle and cousin, on their way to Idaho, rolled their truck numerous times...they were both ejected from the vehicle and very nearly died...their injuries were extensive.....to me it seemed almost yin-yang like...something good happens in my family, and something bad happens in theirs ....like a reflection...so back to my story... now i was able to show visually this energy field but could it be captured on video?..i have tried many ways but seeing it with your eyes, is best...i showed how to construct my devices on my youtube channel, and people started building them and seeing the energy field i describe...these same type of visual effects were seen by Tesla, he describes them in his notes ..i have noticed this distortion in other videos...when i see this energy it is usually around high magnetic fields, or electric fields....part 3 coming up....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on May 11, 2011, 09:31:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC2NKeGO0W8    this is the link to the best video to date showing this energy...please note the times you can see it best and leave a comment...thanks, david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on May 12, 2011, 02:32:43 PM
@David

i just wanted to touch briefly on the hot/cold convection forces up/down ect.. and why they behave the way they do.

this has less to do with "defying gravity", and more to do with bouyancy.

When heat energy is added to a substance, be it a gas, liquid, or even solids; this energy causes the atomic/molecular structure to expand. The mass remains relatively constant, however its volume increases proportional to the energy.

The result is that the Density of the substance decreases.
When this density becomes less than that of the surrounding mass, then it will "rise" do to bouyancy. This is the principal by which a Hot Air Baloon operates.

These changes in bouyancy are not restricted only to temperature.
  The same effect occurs when other energies are added to a material.
for instance, when you add electrical energy, the atomic/molecular structure will expand in much the same way. In the moments just before certain lasers begin emitting photons, the medium (if allowed to freely expand) becomes less dense - just like a hot air baloon.
In theory we could create an electric-air baloon, or even use other forms of energy to create similar effects.

The reason i am making this distinction between bouyancy and gravity, is because i believe this describes the source of the "convection currents" we are observing of charged particles flowing into/ out of/ around - these ring-shaped devices we are experimenting with.

What is unclear to me at this point, is how and what type of energy is actually being transfered between the PMH and the external materials.
I think once we unlock this mystery we will understand more about why non-magnetic materials are being magnetized.

When im showing this to someone, and am asked to describe this energy, the best i can come up with is that it is an:
       electro-magnetic energy, operating at an atomic frequency
         (more specifically,
            at the frequency of the magnetized core material)

and, while this suffices for the purposes of the conversation, i cant help but feel that there is something more to it that i havent quite grasped yet..  anyways, i hope this sheds some light on the subject of the hot/cold, up/down thing,
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Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: rcsquared on May 14, 2011, 11:15:51 PM
@ David, have you devised a way to isolate this 'energy'? Can you mask the wheel while it spins? That might take "optical illusion" out of the equation. Can you suspend the rock or weight from a hanging scale and determine if there is any reduction in density?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on May 25, 2011, 08:59:22 PM
a visualation
if i imagine being underwater and the force i am trying to use is air rising, bubbles....by themselves, the bubbles can do little work, BUT just like water can be siphoned, air can be siphoned!...so now i have a means to concentrate and direct this flow of bubbles, through a hose....as long as i have a supply of air to siphon off of, the flow will continue.....OK so now think about it this way, the energy i am trying to utilize is like the rising of air, but instead of air, the flow is magnetic current...this energy, as Ed has told us, likes to flow in metal...to do this, i need a reservoir of this energy to siphon off of... this is where Eds generator comes in. when this device is spun, magnets are thrown off WITH the gravity, representing the downward flow, because there is ADDED gravity, there is also added buoyancy, like a bubble in the center of the device. right above the center, there is a small hook that i believe is a metal "hose", that is siphoning the opposite force from gravity....now i can have a concentrated flow through a wire......does this make any sense at all?...david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Lakes on May 26, 2011, 03:33:42 PM
pause the video at 4:36 after the wheel has stopped, then play from there, optical illusion when you watch while the wheel is spinning and then stopped, I think. 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: equityboost on June 02, 2011, 12:04:40 AM
http://www.free-energy-devices.com/Issue22.pdf page 69 may provide additional info on these effects.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on June 10, 2011, 05:52:57 PM
an email:           Hi, Dave,

I finally got the tools and a galvanized pole. I cut the pole and bent the pieces to fit around my circle of plastic counter top material. I was wondering how much contact each piece needed. Right now some have contact the entire length from top to bottom and others vary. For instance, one section the pieces only contact at the top. The device will still energize like a pmh should but i fear that i dont have enough contacts to create a good working model. Please give me your opinion. I would really hate to take it apart unnecessarily. This project was very work intensive for me.  When I was experimenting with it and recording, I used a large calcite crystal I had found a few years back.  It seems as though the aura had a stream coming from the stone in kind of a whirling motion towards the generator. I can describe the aura itself as the same as if i let the gas out of a lighter, in that, it was a very subtle and translucent and it distorted the light reflecting through it in the same way the gas does. This made it impossible for my camera to record and for me to view later. I tried putting a window screen in front of the point of view of the camera as well and my camera simply isn't high quality enough coupled with an old tube television I have to review my videos. I thing that a new flat screen would actually clear up some of the distortions caused by this old T.V.                             Thanks for your inspiration Dave McTavish
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on June 10, 2011, 08:22:55 PM
Hi Dave,

My advice, to mr McTavish would be to examine the points of contact very carefully.  ANY contact at all will be able to produce the effect, but in order to get the most output possible, i have found its best to make sure the point of contact are all in a relatively straight line
i.e. if some only contact at the top, then make sure they ALL contact, at at least the top.

ideally, you want the most surface area of contact possible, but if its too much to actually "do", then try to make sure you have a parallel line traveling around the circle.

  Glad to see youre still interested in this effect.  I cant wait until someone figures out how best to interact with the substance we are seeing.


            Sm0ky2
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on June 10, 2011, 08:28:08 PM
an afterthought.......

IR-transistors can be set-up to detect the presence of infrared light.
and although i believe this emmission to be slightly lower frequency than IR, i think it still may interact with the transistor....

perhaps if someone can design a makeshift "IR detector", that simply turns on a LED in the presence of IR light.

then take one of your devices into a dark room, and give it a go.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on June 10, 2011, 11:06:07 PM
i will have to agree with smokey, whenever i use my camera around my devices, it seems that the IR focus does not work right. i am still trying to find the right kind of FLIR camera. the gas finder series i believe is what am looking for....david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on June 10, 2011, 11:20:29 PM
suggestions?
i am trying to find someone in my area, with a gas finder series FLIR camera. they cost in the 10s of thousands, i just need to image my device first, if there is anything interesting, get a recording of it. i would like any suggestions....thanks, david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nightlife on June 11, 2011, 04:04:55 AM
 LOL, you guys crack me up. What you all are seeing is a twisting energy field and do to the fact that everything is nothing more then a energy, you will expirience such sights as that when moving things around or other energy is brought in the picture. Hutchinson and the Narrows should remind you of such effects.
 I have been trying to tell everyone this but no one seems to understand. Nothing is solid and everything is nothing more then a energy field. Answer these questions.

 How can we see things?
 How can we feel things?
 How can we hear things?
 How can we smell things?

 Once you have been able to answer those questions properly, you should then understand what everything is. Once we realise what everything really is, we can then start moving forward trying to find ways to utilize all the energy around us. One problem we have is greed. Everything is alive and life must consume life to survive. The more energy we consume, the more life we consume which effects our generations to come. We are going to screw around and mess everything up at the rate we are going. We must be carefull becuase we could possibly create an energy field that may alter all the energy fields that we have today. Take heed to this, we are an energy field too.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: infringer on June 11, 2011, 04:26:08 AM
I think that it is unlikely that we will kill all human life resonance for a human being is different from person to person we are complex beings by nature while we are sometimes persuaded by suggestive thought others may not be and this is one thought that I chose not to agree with.

-infringer-
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: infringer on June 11, 2011, 04:33:24 AM
hi everyone
i just have to say, after reading all you guys posts, you guys are very smart and have really got this thread moving in a good direction, [you guys have brains, i HAD one, once] anyway i thank you all for your help with this...i have to agree with farmhand, i cannot claim any thing as my own, i am just trying to help bring it together....this all started a couple years ago ,[actually when i was 5] i was messing around with magnet motor designs and then i remembered Ed...a lot of years ago i had our library get an original copy of Magnetic Current....it was small so i copied all the pages...i remember it took a week for our library to get it..i think i was in my late 20s so around 20 years ago...the words he used, "Perpetual Motion Holder" always caught my attention..so a couple years ago, i made my first PMH, with a 16d nail, bent into a U about an inch tall..i used wire from a transformer and a 9v battery to energize .. i made more Us [no coil] and found i could link a a few them using just the one small coil [5 or 6 in a circle] it was then i realized Eds flywheel IS a PMH....i started to experiment with toroid shapes, small at first and with a 1/3 section cut out [2 junctions] and two coils...i like the single junction ring because it would clang when it was energized ...i found that metals seemed to behave strangely, especially a ring shape spinning...i tried different coil configurations/ sizes/wire materials etc...i kept thinking i saw the wires move, so i marked their positions..they were NOT moving...there was something distorting the image....what was this?..WHY was this?...i had to find out..i set about making the distortion more "visible" so that i might understand it better...i found that not just steel or iron would work but ferrite/Fe3o4 oxide will work BETTER for my purposes.....i have made one out of ferro fluid and one using mercury as the core..i found that quartz and other crystal seemed to reflect or absorb this energy..i had to build something similar to Eds, to see if the field was stronger in that type of design..i did, it was..while working with that configuration, i kept feeling like a pulling/attraction at the poles and a pushing/repulsion at the plane..i could see this energy and it is exactly a double helix spiral form!. could it be that this energy i was seeing, was in fact the same type of energy Ed used at coral castle?..i had to find out....i went over everything i could find about Ed and his castle..in some of his photos there is to me, evidence of this energy being used..the shadows in some of the photos looked to me like they were distorted, as if by a heat type wave, when the rest of the photo was in focus...the energy i was seeing was exactly that form!..like a mirage ...this was starting to make sense to me now..Ed told us that the energy he used was NOT electricity or magnetism, but something different, deeper than those forces...a SOUND BASE to start from...i KNOW that this visible distortion, is just a part of this energy...when i watch videos now, like Hutchinson's, i can see the same distortion happening...i am compiling a list of videos that i can see the distortions in....

I will give you an easy way to test this theory and prove it.

Build 20 of these rings.
Stack them like pancakes creating a tube.
Build 20 of these rings with no magnetic properties just hallow rings and stack them.
Get two super balls with the same weight and size.
Build two sensors that will trigger a led to light up when hit.
Place these sensors in the middle at the bottom of the stack.
Borrow a high speed camera and see if gravity was at all distorted by dropping both balls from the same height at the same time. See which one lands first repeat the experiment numerous times to assure find is correct and show precise measuring to display the heights are equal.
If it is something worth investigating people will take this further.

Simple...

Me personally I see no distortion that is out of the ordinary for cameras of all types I just see a ring. But it would be easy to prove your theories or disprove them!

"It is not the spoon that bends Neo it is your mind." famous quote from the matrix.

As to your response for needing a special camera to view your possible effect:

Run an add in the classifieds until you get one that would be my best guess otherwise contact your local collage and ask if they could film it for you. Like I said if you believe there is any kind of wild anti gravity effect... I gave you a simple test.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: nightlife on June 11, 2011, 04:49:39 AM
I think that it is unlikely that we will kill all human life resonance for a human being is different from person to person we are complex beings by nature while we are sometimes persuaded by suggestive thought others may not be and this is one thought that I chose not to agree with.

-infringer-

 There isn't enough DNA differences among the human race to justify there being multiple races amung the human race. That speaks for its self.
 Now we have to think about the basic energy fields such as the basic elements. The atom is a energy field just as each element that makes up an atom is. If we were to alter one of the elements that make up a atom and it caused a chain reaction that altered all of those like elements, I would bet it would end life as we know it.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on June 11, 2011, 04:04:22 PM
ferro fluid + magnet + saturation
if i suspend a 1/2" cylinder neo magnet by a string and dip it into ferro fluid, i can saturate it to the point that it will not hold any more. add a drop and a drop will fall off, gravity having full effect. OK, now if i add a stack of 10 -1/8" cylinder neo magnets, it is like having a stream, leading to a pond. the small magnets allow the fluid to flow UP to the larger one. the same saturation occurs, if i add a drop, a drop flows off, AND if i use an eye dropper, and pull a drop off, a drop will flow up to replace it. because of this fact, a siphon CAN be started and a continuous flow will take place in the tube. a porous material like earth will do the same thing with water. if you had a large container with a cone shaped island, with water in it, added water till there is some standing in the low end, you could make a well at the highest point. the water level in the well will be higher than at the outer water level, so a slow siphon could be made there too. a valve could be used to adjust the flow out so as not to exceed the wells refill rate, making a continuous flow. this does not bother any physical laws, but rather embraces them. this would mean in a closed system [no evaporation], this system should keep a constant flow forever, gravity being the engine. a continuous flow of water through a tube. natures wheelwork. we know how a water table will raise water, and the physics of a siphon to make it flow in a tube, downward. the only thing is there must be a starting action, but it will flow as long as there is water in system....david.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on June 11, 2011, 09:29:57 PM
expirement
i had a limited amount of ferro fluid but was able to achieve constant flow. the way i did this was to submerge the siphon tube, then carefully keeping both ends in the fluid, bring the inlet of the tube to the top of the magnet/ferro fluid. by keeping the outlet in the fluid, it does not matter if the inlet gets too close to the magnet. then i carefully raised the inlet to the surface of the fluid and absolutely got a constant flow of FF through the tube. if i narrowed the inlet it would help, but it worked! if it were not so messy i would try to film it. i ask that anyone trying these experiments use ALL safety precautions/protection. but it did work!........david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on June 15, 2011, 09:33:56 AM
       this is a diagram of an experiment i did. if you imagine a flat rubber sheet and the magnets as being dents that allow the ferro fluid to puddle. any place on the surface of the FF around the neo magnets, is EXACTLY like the level of a pond or lake. the small magnets are like a trough leading to a large pool, [big magnet] all of it having the same level, the pool being deeper and wider. there are only 2 forces, attraction/repulsion. i DID this experiment and it absolutely works. a constant flow machine. this flow must be started, not self starting. the ferro fluid will easily climb 2, 5, 10 feet, up a neo magnet chain....david     http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/continiousflow.png/
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ElectricGoose on June 15, 2011, 12:18:30 PM
Sorry David, this WON'T work forever as you have stated.  Whilst I agree that it may work initially for a short while, you will find that it will fall victim to the old enemies of friction.  Ferrofluid is the weak point here.

Ferrofluid is like a fine silt and of course you have in an oil, the magnetic particles held in suspension.  As they rise along the magnets some of the particles will immediately adhere to the magnets whilst the main 'flow' continues on its way.  With each 'loop' more and more particles will drop out of suspension and stick to the building 'silt bed' of particles adhering to the magnetic core until the stream is flowing much slower and drawn only by wicking.

Besides....you can't draw any usable power off this.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on June 16, 2011, 02:27:23 AM
Sorry David, this WON'T work forever as you have stated.  Whilst I agree that it may work initially for a short while, you will find that it will fall victim to the old enemies of friction.  Ferrofluid is the weak point here.

Ferrofluid is like a fine silt and of course you have in an oil, the magnetic particles held in suspension.  As they rise along the magnets some of the particles will immediately adhere to the magnets whilst the main 'flow' continues on its way.  With each 'loop' more and more particles will drop out of suspension and stick to the building 'silt bed' of particles adhering to the magnetic core until the stream is flowing much slower and drawn only by wicking.

Besides....you can't draw any usable power off this.
...........i love it when someone tells me i CANT do something...did you come to your conclusion by actual experimentation? so if i leave a magnet in ferrofluid, the oxide particles will settle?.....why do you say i cant draw any usable "power" from this?...i disagree. a liquid falling on a water wheel will most assuredly cause it to spin. as far as i know a spinning shaft can be used to drive what ever you attach it to....what is not usable? what kind of power do you refer to?....anyway i look forward to making a video, of this "not" working...but when i do, i do not think it will be good enough for some people,[you]. it wont make "power", or not enough, or the "wrong" kind of power. if you want, and you look hard enough, you can find fault in anything, some people are just that way i guess. i think back on how many times in the past someone has been told "that will not work", and went on to make "it" work, what it breaks down to is this, you cant......I CAN, because i believe i can, and i will not give up cause you say i cant, or that wont work...how many great discoveries were made even though some naysayer with ZERO imagination or vision said it cant be done? one more thing, even if the particles of oxide settle, a moving fluid will keep a channel open, but this flow is all at the SURFACE, look at it like this, the magnets are a super efficient WICK right? you said yourself it is drawn up by wicking and the nano-particle ferro fluid seems to stay in suspension pretty good.....dont get me wrong, i value negative input as well as the positive, but regardless, i will not be influenced by naysayers "cant do that" or "that wont work", because i believe in myself, and i CAN!   .. .  . .   .david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ElectricGoose on June 16, 2011, 08:28:07 AM
...........i love it when someone tells me i CANT do something...did you come to your conclusion by actual experimentation? so if i leave a magnet in ferrofluid, the oxide particles will settle?.....why do you say i cant draw any usable "power" from this?...i disagree. a liquid falling on a water wheel will most assuredly cause it to spin. ....dont get me wrong, i value negative input as well as the positive, but regardless, i will not be influenced by naysayers "cant do that" or "that wont work", because i believe in myself, and i CAN!   .. .  . .   .david

Whoa David...relax and take some more medication or something!

I dont believe there was anything anywhere in my post that was negative to YOU personally, nor did I say that YOU can't do something.  LOL.  Oh man...bully for you, go knock yourself out with it, I don't care.  My post was an honest critical look at the mechanisms of the process (flawed as they are).  If that happens to be positive or negative and you can't take it because it is some baby you hatched, don't wail about it.  How are you ever going to survive peer review in the real world if you behave like that?

1)  Yes I have experimented with ferrofluid so wasn't talking out of my arse
2)  Of course a water wheel can perform work but at what rate is it going to spin?  VERY SLOW (plus you still have to attach a load).
3)  The process WILL eventually stop.

But hey...don't take my word for it....hop to it and see for yourself.

You and BruceTPU would get along great.  I worry about that guy.  Maybe he has hung himself after figuring out there is no OU from his paralleled 'Super coils'.  LOL  Yeh...thats a guy that can't handle the truth after a few people have tried to point things out.

Whatever.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on June 16, 2011, 03:31:16 PM
@ EGoose

the "silting" effect has to do with the quality of the ferrofluid.

The more "colloidal" the fuild, i.e. smaller particle size, the better it will stay in suspension. There are fluids that can sit in a magnetic field for long periods of time, and not separate. High-quality fluids like that are expensive and difficult to find at times...
 
But you can manufacture your own, with a lot of effort.

the best ive done was to get an accrylic (or plastic) box, drill a hole in it to fit a piece of ferrous steel pipe
put a grinder bit on the dremmell, and go to town on it inside the box to catch all the steel dust.
when you're done, you should have a nice pile of dust, then run it through a very fine metal filter/strainer, to catch any large particles.

and CAREFULLY mix it, to avoid clumping.

the proportion of dust to oil is very important, and i never could get an accurate ratio formula. so you just have to play around with it, adding more dust until you get it to behave the way you want to under a magnetic field.
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Liquids have a physical "droplet size", its hard to see this with oil, because its viscious.. but every liquid has this.
This is basically the smallest ammount you can easily break it down to, before the surface tension prevents you from breaking the droplet down any smaller.

when the particle size of the metal is close to, or smaller than the droplet size, the magnetic field cannot silt it out. It always remains coated with oil, the the oil will actually repel the particles away from each other. This is what makes colloidal suspension different from chunks of metal floating around in an oil..






Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on June 18, 2011, 08:20:49 PM
a concept      (http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6531/designconcept.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/designconcept.png/)

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Uploaded with ImageShack.us this is just something i thought of, i dont think it will work.......the other experiment i did was too hard to keep the tube immersed in the fluid, very small flow only.........i think this concept should work....then again, i have been wrong MANY times before.....please let me know your thoughts on whether you think this will work or not...david
Title: Re: a new design thought
Post by: Hope on June 23, 2011, 04:51:35 AM
This is a concept using an aluminum tube Rodin coil shaped filled with ferro fluid then energized as a PMH which makes me also see it wrapped with TPU coils to capture the flow of electrons which of course will be a constant generator... though knowing of the magnetic field disassociation may be harder to capture.  Because of this "throwing of the magnetic field" there will be useful pressure causing a lot of activity in the TPU windings.  It shows promise in that by mere physical design of the Rodin coil the magnetic field is being perfectly circulated WITHOUT any "stick"(back emf) which of course is and has been the devil in these many efforts at magnetic OU.  Once again the natural path wins out at mere simplicity which would tend to show, though hard to make in build automation, is the necessary pattern of magnetic flow.  Working WITH this flow eliminates physical problems later in operation.  This is further confirmed since the design of the Rodin coil needs no insulator coating but yet does not short out.  Any comments are asked for and appreciated.

After drawing this concept out it showed that an outer covering tube instead of circular windings would capture flow unhampered.  So with this in mind the whole idea has a completed congruity and seems to be worthy of some bantering about of you all.  Still the coil could be or should be pulsed cycled within the ferro fluid building momentum and a harvest-able output should follow.  It is yet to be established if this will be a harmonic recombination which will yield amassed energies.  But this seems to me to be a natural assumption if the fields can not escape capture.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on June 24, 2011, 08:34:57 PM
I have had a dream about this design and it has a glass Rodin coil filled with a fluid that resembles mercury inside.  There is a grid of diamond shaped gold colored wire mesh covering the glass which had what resembles quartz covering the wire mesh finely.    Within the shiny fluid are grid plates (just a few) here and there.  The whole coil is suspended within a golden quartz looking wire mesh that is saucer shaped which seemed to pulse with movement in the coil assembly.   When the outer mesh pulsed the inner grid plates glow a bit.  Hope this means something to a reader who can relate what this might be,  I am, like you all, searching for a way of generating power that is green and OU.   Thanks.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on June 28, 2011, 06:04:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ges-FQmYrk another video trying to show the flow of this energy and a brief explanation...thanks, david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on June 28, 2011, 06:40:57 PM
great work dave

have you tried this shadow experiment using different colors of light?
im interested in seeing how red light responds.

but ideally, you want to get a multifunctional prism, that you can change through all the colors, and project each one onto the device to make the shadow, to see how different frequencies respond.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on June 28, 2011, 06:59:57 PM
im not sure what this is called, ive only used it once.
maybe someone in the optical field can help you find one.

basically light enters the prism, and is split into frequencies at different angles.

theres a screen on the end which has a hole in it,. that lets out only one set of frequencies at a time, and you can slide it down through the entire light spectrum.


[and if you block off 90% of the screen at either end, at the edges of the crystal, you get into frequencies "just outside" the normal human range of vision. Each person is different as to how far out purple or red that they can "see".]
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on June 29, 2011, 12:48:26 AM
temperature
if you think of this like temperature, imagine a room, and ambient [neutral] temperature is a plane [horiz] in the middle of the room. one inch equals one degree difference, up or down. when temperature of an object is higher than the surrounding air, it will radiate an upflowing convection current that distorts the image [like a mirage does]until the temp is neutral again .one inch/degree is not much, but if there is a large temp difference, there will be a large flow. with these devices, the energy flows this same way. the farther away from neutral, the more flow can be made. when these devices are spinning, they can throw off extra G energy, and push up extra L [levity] energy. if i use the same neutral point for gravity, i can make an analogy. at earths surface, an object has more of the G in it, giving it "weight". if some of the G is removed, L will be added, and if i get enough G out and L in, i can get an object to be neutral [buoyant]. this energy permeates everything and is what fluidity really is. i held a small chain at the N pole and at ONE single spot above [off axis], there was enough L energy to lift the end link up just a tiny bit. if i place the wire hook at that same place, and put a magnet on the ground rod [tube] at the equator, i get a small flow happening, up the wire into the chain and back into the air. this is visible and distorts the visual like a mirage does. just like heat does, except no heat. although there is a "warm" sensation where the L upflow is happening.......more soon, david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on June 29, 2011, 01:57:57 AM
im not sure what this is called, ive only used it once.
maybe someone in the optical field can help you find one.

basically light enters the prism, and is split into frequencies at different angles.

theres a screen on the end which has a hole in it,. that lets out only one set of frequencies at a time, and you can slide it down through the entire light spectrum.


[and if you block off 90% of the screen at either end, at the edges of the crystal, you get into frequencies "just outside" the normal human range of vision. Each person is different as to how far out purple or red that they can "see".]
    there is an old frequency/spectrum chart by westinghouse that shows a point where quartz goes "dark"and forces start to diminish or increase? i would like to experiment with one of those prisms !! thanks smokey...i will find the westinghouse image, david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on June 29, 2011, 04:01:28 AM
    there is an old frequency/spectrum chart by westinghouse that shows a point where quartz goes "dark"and forces start to diminish or increase? i would like to experiment with one of those prisms !! thanks smokey...i will find the westinghouse image, david
   http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk15/fuzzytomcat/ElectroMagneticSpectrum1800.jpg
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on August 02, 2011, 10:26:44 AM
coming up on 50,000 views of this thread!
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Hope on August 26, 2011, 06:59:24 AM
Did you get my concepts docs    wanted to share it with you and all   it is the key to understanding how to tap the sea of energy we are afloat in   your device creates a collection of zero points   what you see is energy leaving time and space to be reborn.  Ed Leedskalin device did the same thing   notice all the null points of his magnets pointed in?   Engine was to collect them    coils and air cap was to use them to draw off the stones charge that is what he didnt want remaining.  He wanted the stones to repulse against like charges.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on December 08, 2011, 04:44:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgoBFShvEpw&feature=related and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLlvri6UNKw&feature=related new videos
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on December 25, 2011, 01:28:44 AM
About the line of thought that changing the sign of time in equations is changing the orientation of gravity:

The work of Fran De Aquino, freely published on the ArXiv, contains thorough description of experiments to reproduce the effect he discovered, Euegen Podkletnov mentionned him in his interview; since then, the work's more solid: here are the three main papers with two abstracts.
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Gravity Control by means of Electromagnetic Field through Gas or Plasma at Ultra-Low Pressure
http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0701091
Fran De Aquino
(Submitted on 8 Jan 2007 (v1), last revised 17 Feb 2011 (this version, v14))

It is shown that the gravity acceleration just above a chamber filled with gas or plasma at ultra-low pressure can be strongly reduced by applying an Extra Low-Frequency (ELF) electromagnetic field across the gas or the plasma. This Gravitational Shielding Effect is related to recent discovery of quantum correlation between gravitational mass and inertial mass. According to the theory samples hung above the gas or the plasma should exhibit a weight decrease when the frequency of the electromagnetic field is decreased or when the intensity of the electromagnetic field is increased. This Gravitational Shielding Effect is unprecedented in the literature and can not be understood in the framework of the General Relativity. From the technical point of view, there are several applications for this discovery; possibly it will change the paradigms of energy generation, transportation and telecommunications.
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Gravity Control produced by a Thermoionic Current through the Air at Very Low Pressure
http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0610075
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Mathematical Foundations of the Relativistic Theory of Quantum Gravity
Fran De Aquino (Maranhao State University, Brazil)
(Submitted on 9 Dec 2002 (v1), last revised 24 Oct 2011 (this version, v41))
http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0212033v41
Starting from the action function, we have derived a theoretical background that leads to the quantization of gravity and the deduction of a correlation between the gravitational and the inertial masses, which depends on the kinetic momentum of the particle. We show that the strong equivalence principle is reaffirmed and, consequently, Einstein's equations are preserved. In fact, such equations are deduced here directly from this new approach to Gravitation. Moreover, we have obtained a generalized equation for the inertial forces, which incorporates the Mach's principle into Gravitation. Also, we have deduced the equation of Entropy; the Hamiltonian for a particle in an electromagnetic field and the reciprocal fine structure constant directly from this new approach. It was also possible to deduce the expression of the Casimir force and to explain the Inflation Period and the Missing Matter, without assuming existence of vacuum fluctuations. This new approach to Gravitation will allow us to understand some crucial matters in Cosmology.
=-=-=                               this was a post in a different forum. i believe that Eds generator made the same type of current to produce the anti-gravitational effects ascribed to him. i also believe that Hutchinson was making the same type of current flow for his levitation.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on December 30, 2011, 04:10:30 PM
[color=000000]Ed Leedskalnin said he figured out how the ancient stone masons cut and moved HUGE blocks of stone. places like puma-punku, balbek in lebanon etc. i believe him. working with variations of his PMH and the generator at coral castle, i found that these devices generate a visible radiation field around them. i posted videos on how to build these devices on my youtube channel, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgoBFShvEpw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgoBFShvEpw) . replicators built copies and verified my findings. what i see is a field around the devices that looks like a mirage or the "heat" coming off a hot object. this distortion is usually seen where there is energy moving upwards, like convection, away from gravity. it has been seen above electrical devices that produce large magnetic fields. it seems that where this distortion is, there is energy associated with it. i believe that Edward Leedskalnin's generator was able to make a flow of what he coined "magnetic current". not electricity, but a flow of magnetic energy. Fran De Aquino, has shown that there are different ways to achieve gravity control. i believe that John Hutchinson's effect uses the same energy as Aquino and this is the same energy Leedskalnin used with his devices. in my videos, i have a 14 pound quartz geode that i can spin with just two fingers when held near my device. i have tried to capture this energy on video but it is very subtle. Hutchinson has made metals do strange things, like get soft, come apart and levitate. i believe that Leedskalnin was able to use these currents to "soften" the stone before he cut it. some of the marks left on the stones he cut look like they were "melted". because the energy field i re-discovered is visible, is very important since the meters we have today have a hard time detecting these current flows. Aquino stated; "From the technical point of view, there are several applications for this discovery; possibly it will change the paradigms of energy generation, transportation and telecommunications." i believe this to be true. i believe that Leedskalnin's device is able to make a PURER flow of energy, made without the use electricity, using centrifugal force to start a flow of magnetic current. i believe he was able to make this energy flow in a wire, so he could use it at a remote location. a flame burns away from gravity, artificial or natural. a flame on a centrifuge burns towards the center axis. i am searching for the energy we see in rising heat,[convection?]. i believe that energy in heat is a separate thing and can be made separately. i also believe that this energy is all around us, is what every thing is made of, and very very strong. every day more and more evidence is coming to light to prove this. i am not very smart, but i am very curious and there are so many things we know nothing about. i just hope that what i have found/seen in my experiments will help us all to understand gravity/magnetism a little better. thanks, david[/color][/font]
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Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on December 31, 2011, 12:14:52 AM
thank you loner
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 03, 2012, 04:06:09 PM

vortex tube

i saw an ad for a vortex tube and clicked on it. i had not really heard about their properties before but it is a great demonstrator to show how temperature is able to be separated using centrifugal air spin. there obviously is a heavier and lighter aspect to temperature that can be centrifuged and separated to a good degree. google it. Eds device separates the energy in a PMH into two opposite ends, just like temperature/ centrifuge. now he had a differential to work with. in the same way temperature equalizes, magnetic current will flow till it is at a resting point. the generator at coral castle fully separates this energy, by weight. weight and inertia are able to interchange because they are the same thing. on one end of the scale is gravity pulling down, the other is pushing up away from gravity. the more spin=more created gravity, more gravity= more levity or anti grav produced. i believe that Ed brought the ends of his separated current back together and controlled the flow using a variable capacitor as to which way the current flowed. like Ed said the two currents ARE the same. if you think about a water level tube, if you push the tube down fast, water will flow through the tube till the level is equal, then no more flow. this is what Ed said, dividing, concentrating then running one against the other, or chasing its tail.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 09, 2012, 01:15:27 PM
the only way Ed could have did the things he did is if his generator was really a gravitational dipole generator. reading Jeongs stuff, it makes sense. the center of mass shift has to be what he was after. the way he describes dipolar magnetic current, N repelsN, attracts S, so dipole gravity follows the same rules as magnetism? Eds photo of him w/ his hand on the generator, he is collecting energy from the equator and at the poles. that way there is a differential he could now utilize. like linear and radial energy being N and S poles of the same field. a PMH holds a force, everybody knows this. it is di polar and bi directional, existing in the metal of a PMH. analogy; from a point a line becomes a circle. it seems that the metal he used allowed near superfluid velocities of flow. i believe this is why there is optical distortion around these devices. he separated the poles with a centrifuge, [he only needed to achieve over 1 G to fully divide the poles] and really make dipole gravity. an iron wire will hold this energy. by limiting either one of the poles, using a single wire ran through a bottle wound with wire, the surface areas being different was able to achieve directional flow of energy at remote locations. [i hope this makes some kind of sense]. he could use either pole, like he could control which pole was flowing from a wire. like water in a hose , polarized energy, flowing from the wire, either more N or more S flowing back to the earths field. lets say that S is the pole and N the equator. they ARE the same energy, one being a line, the other a spinning disc. there is a point where these are equal in energy. an infinite point on a scale. adding either pole would tip the balance.a cut stone; adding more N attracts more S into the stone. N being the heavier end of the scale attracts more S. S being the other side of the scale pushes against gravity. think about how heat "rises". we see energy dissipating like a mirage from a heat source, always rising. adding more N would reverse this until the "dissipating energy" would flow from the opposite side of the stone AGAINST earths gravity. this is why i saw what looked like "heat" distortion UNDER the stone in one of his photos. there must be a universal field, there also must exist an infinite place, from which every thing we are and know arises. a zero point that is as deep as the universe is vast.[/size]
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Cloxxki on January 09, 2012, 03:51:08 PM
Dave, could you put in one sentence the role the PMH would hold in a setup as you envision Ed's was?
I'll then try and offer you a near effortless and certainly costless experiment to do on your device.
 
Would the PMH itself need to exceed 1G at the magnets' radius?
 
Although a university is promising to look into it, I STONGLY urge you and replicators to do the most basic of tests that have not yet been executed to my knowledge.
 
One thing interests me now that I think of it.
Current is effected by resistance (in Ohm). The PMH's circulating current seems to not be bothered that the loop is barely closed, the lock doesn't diminish. Does a current meter pick up the PMH's magnetic current? I forgot.
 
Thanks,
J
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 25, 2012, 09:47:48 AM
@ Cloxxki
 
different materials have a different magnetic resistance, and thus will produce a different current value,
i think you are on the right track.
ED mentioned that soft iron was the most conductive substance that he had access to at the time.
 
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@ Dave, i left you a comment on your youtube video.
 
Thank you for that westinghouse chart, thats an awesome find. you notice in the upper right it has all of the elements.
 
I'll make a gravity video, and show you why that guy is correct. gravity is the force, the lenze force.
As the result of electromagnetic induction. Look at the direction of motion of the electric field, you see the perpendicular magnetic moment, at time x. Now,. move that position to time x+1, x+2, x+3 you see the change in the magnetic vector. Now... we know the force is perpendicular to both the movement of the charge, AND the magnetic field. Which therefore, must only be in one direction.
Towards the Center. (or away from it, depending on the +/- i.e. clockwise or ccw atomic rotation)
   i figured it all out, The egyptians were right, its so simple... now i understand why it was a secret passed down... Which,. sorry to those of philosophical minds out there, im going to blow the lid off this mofo.
 
 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Cloxxki on January 26, 2012, 01:33:51 AM
I'll be sitting front row at your video!
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on January 30, 2012, 02:16:50 PM
Ed said that soft iron " threw off" magnets better than other metals. he also said the magnets circulated in the metal. this is a quote; " but are running many times wound until the North and South Pole individual magnets get thrown out of the wire by centrifugal force", so what he is saying is that these magnets have weight! or they are what make weight, and what is weight but gravity?[/size]
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 31, 2012, 01:35:48 AM
Ed said that soft iron " threw off" magnets better than other metals. he also said the magnets circulated in the metal. this is a quote; " but are running many times wound until the North and South Pole individual magnets get thrown out of the wire by centrifugal force", so what he is saying is that these magnets have weight! or they are what make weight, and what is weight but gravity?[/size]

sorry i should have been more clear,. as my understanding has moved beyond Ed's descriptions......
When i say more "magnetically conductive", im talking about the metals ability to alow transition of the magnetic loops through itself. i.e. - the resistance to the magnetic point charges moving in a vortex through the metal.
 
The atoms in a paramagnetic material allign with the magnetic vector, creating a conductive path through the material.  In comparison to something like copper, or aluminum - the velocity of the particles through the material is higher. But, in contrast to a gas (like air) or empty space,.... there is still a considerable ammount of magnetic resistance, which keeps the magnetic point charges as subluminal velocities.
 
outside of the soft iron, the loops again travel at close to light speeds, which is why the field spreads out the further away from the iron you get. This is due to Einsteinian special relativity. - which only applies to the velocities of the magnetic point charges, not the propegation of the field itself.
 
When ed uses the term "throws off", he is implying that the external portion of the field loops is larger than it might be wth a different material, thus containing more magnetic point charges.
Eds experimental results of this, are a stronger magnetic induction when the field interacts with another piece of metal.
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on February 04, 2012, 06:18:21 PM

hi

Comment on your video: MAGNETIC LEAD !
"I was able to magnetize bismuth and zinc. I will post video soon!! I wasn't able to see the dimension of the toroid P.M.H. that you used so I guessed and had a local fabrication shop roll a 7' by 5/8" thick steel bar for me and it has a little more than a two foot inner circumference. It will lock with a 12v low amps tap but I used a car battery to do my experiments for the amperage" ...; this was posted by coffinboxman on my youtube channel. i apologize for not getting the experiments you all have requested on video, it is not as easy as seems. i would love nothing more than to have PROOF on video of my claims, but here's the thing, i am not trying to prove that this energy is REAL, i am trying to show how different this energy field is from ANYTHING i have seen before. bear with me please, i know there is lots of interest in this, but if this energy was easy to see or measure or capture an image of, it would have been done long ago. there should not be any question as to whether or not it is real, enough people have seen it or have replicated these devices and seen and felt the things i describe, for themselves, to answer that question. i have said form the beginning how subtle and difficult it is to see, [a flowing energy field], let alone to capture images of. i really believe that there must be some frame dragging happening at the center of my device. the optical illusion created when it is rotated VERY slowly and then stopped, i am talking a single revolution here, distorts the view too much for too long to be explained away as moot. i will try something. rather than trying to image what i see and then try to point it out to you, i have drawn some diagrams that i will video, in the hope to better illustrate what i am seeing. i am also hoping that you will let me know if this helps at all. what i see - YouTube (http://youtu.be/oUvLir6eO2M)
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on March 19, 2012, 03:59:27 AM
hey Dave, glad to see you still at it.
 
i think you should take a look at this here,. it kind of pertains to what yur into now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_magnetic_resonance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_magnetic_resonance)
 
cheers
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on April 25, 2012, 06:39:14 AM
@ Dave
 
ive solved the problem of aluminum becomming magnetized.
 
After studying loop quantum theories, quantum magnetism, and quantum chemistry
ive not only been able to replicate this process with aluminum, but also with coppy, silver, and a sucrose mono-crystaline structure.
 
On the molecular level, Fe2+ ions form with the AlO2 on the surface of the aluminum,
      ceating an aluminum-ferrous-oxide, with a crystaline structure similar to Alnico compounds.
in fact, all of the metals form similar oxides with iron, and 2-d electron spin allignment is achieved.
 
 
the sucrose molecule, does not oxidize in this manner, however the electron-spin does in-fact allign, and the sugar-crystals become magnetized ( an effect which fades (decays) over time, much faster than a metal magnet)
which is very interesting, because for a few short days i had a crystal material that was piezoelectric, magnetic, conductive, magnetostrictive, and photothermic all at the same time. ( i could list more here, but they arent of much interest to this topic)
 
Anyhow,. i just thought i would share this information.  and BTW,. if you are looking for confirmation that this is molecular-surface effect...... take your magnetized aluminum, and scrape off the surface,
this will expose the raw aluminum underneath, which will quickly ozidize into (non-magnetic) AlO2
it 'Should" be able to easily rub off without much scraping, the bonding strength to AL is very low,.
indicating that it should be lubricative like graphite between the layers.
 
This process is intriguing for many reasons.,... mainly, that we can instigate molecular-formation at low energy levels at near atomic resonant freqs.
  But it also sheds light on new compounds that were previously thought to not exist.
 
 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sm0ky2 on April 25, 2012, 07:11:32 AM
A Little on how this process works::
 
While the PMH is activated - the gausian tension is at a maximum. The Iron is magnetized at its' maximum potential, which is not possible for that mass of iron to maintain, once the current loop is broken.
meaning, if you saturate the piece of iron, using an electric field. the strongest magnet you can possibly make is slightly less than the magnetization state while the PMH is active.
 
Why? This is a result of the begining and end of the loops translating the field back into one another directly. there is no transfer medium, like AIR, which brings the signal back in 'incoherently', or out of phase with the atomic resonations. The ENTIRE mass of iron, is resonating in synch.
 In a normal magnet, there is a phase transition along the length of the metal - caused by the effects of the transfer medium.
 
now - what happens when we insert aluminum as the transfer medium?
        the aluminum develops a phase transition from its' center - outwards. starting at the freq of Al, and moving closer to that of the (Al)(Fe)(O5) structure, This is a high energy structure, intuitively it seems unstable, but yet here it is....   it also bonds freely with a Calcium ion,
        The iron develops a phase transition near its' ends, towards the aluminum, the freq also changing closer to that of the oxide crystals.
        And it is in this synchronicity, that a layer forms inbetween, where both the aluminum AND the iron bond to the oxygen, in a dense crystaline structure. It begins at the molecular thickness, and if left in the PMH until saturation, can be a few nm thick.
        The magnetization potential is similar to that of an Alnico compound, and there is also found a layer of the compound on the end-surfaces of the PMH, this can be transfered/ rub off onto other surfaces
but the magnetization becomes non-polar/mixed polar.
( i'm assuming this is from a rupturing of the crystal formations)
 
these resonant fields, with which we can now perform chemistry, do not have to be from atoms or molecules in direct contact
these can be electromagnetic in nature, generated by specifically tuned crystals, to cause the constituents to resonate at a freq. of the desired compound.
It is a logarithmic phase transition, in which as the atoms approach the compounds' moleculer frequency, the energy required for the compound to form approaches zero.
 
This doesnt yet explain the visual effects emmanating from these devices,. but it does shed light on some possible explanations, (pardon the pun)
 
 i hope it does help to answer some questions, about the effects they have on stuff we stick" in the loop"
 
That pretty much summarizes it all up,.. enjoy
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: IotaYodi on April 25, 2012, 03:14:16 PM
Im guessing David gave up. He did get a lot of negative remarks.  He was genuine though and did find something interesting. I hope he shows back up. I havent seen the others who made replications either. Would like to know who has replicated this.
 Smokey most of your post went above my head. Its apparent you have a good grasp on the physics.
 
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on May 11, 2012, 06:20:53 PM
a new video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bVxF1jX7zk
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on May 15, 2012, 06:23:57 AM
These are a few posts to help show that this device WORKS! [/size]Check out the attached pictures and feel free to share them with anyone you want toIm not going to post them because some blog basher would start asking me questions about something i know very little about ( I feel for you dave ) Don,t let them bring you downNow that this device has been charged for a few weeks the waves seem more visible Its kinda like if I try to look to close I cant see it as much. I think the brain tricks itself because it knows its not normal, kind of like when you look at spinning spiral video and everything is wavy after but in reverse Im still looking for something good to mount it on and give it a spinAnyway Ill let you know if I find anything interestingThanksTom this is one of the posts by tom. These next posts are by smokey2 over at OU.com a charged particle gets sucked straight down into the center, superfast, and gently floats back up (http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-1222.html?s=6d8abf0bbbeeea632afee733348c965b#) around the outside, and back in again..why does $%^!* radiate like heat??!?!??wtf is this?Lambright Radiation[edit: i took it apart. I think we should probably figure out more about what this is, or at least where it sits frequency-wise, before we continue playig with it in our homes....] next one If we assume that magnetic radiation is a function of the change in energy levels of an electron, forced into a vectored elliptical (http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-1222.html?s=6d8abf0bbbeeea632afee733348c965b#) orbit around the nucleus...That would mean that the frequency of the radiation is (in close estimate) equal to the orbital frequency of the electron.Which, if my calculations are correct for Iron(Fe)would place this right around 281 Gigahertz.give or take variations in magnetic field intensity (mass dependent?)thats somewhere between microwave and visible light.the electric-charge vortex is a different effect than the radiation, more of the cause really... i dont know what effects this radiation might have on the human body, or objects placed into it.i need to do some more research before i continue to experiment with this. I had a whole slue of tests lined up last night, to include numerous types of materials, lasers, electro-static discharge, temperature monitoring a suspended container of water in the field. but what ended up happening, was i stared at it for a while, stuck my finger in it,. held various objects in the field and watched it stretch and flow towards them.began a series of charged particle tests, then got spooked by the stuff. i didnt want it radiating around me, not knowing what it was.... so i took it down for now, until i learn more.At this point my focus of study (http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-1222.html?s=6d8abf0bbbeeea632afee733348c965b#) is going to be in the 281Ghz rangeThis is theorized off the Bohr atomic model, to be the frequency of a magnetic field, radiating from a magnetized iron atom.Using a technique similar to the emision of lazer-light frequencies,the "magnetron" uses the frequency of a ceramic-ferrite material to produce radiation in themicrowave frequency range.The Lambright Radiation, if it is indeed from the oscillations in the magnetic field itself, would be actually considered "microwaves", but approaching the edge of the scale to far-infrared light.something we call "milimeter waves" (EHF), noted because of their wavelength. Interference patterns within the field could easily explain frequency-peaks exceeding the low end of the infrared scale, which would correlate with the type of visual effect we are observing. (magnetic diffraction?)If this is the case, then this radiation would be relatively harmless to us. (may cause cancer in small laboratory animals) virtualy identicle to what we use for long-range microwave communications.except that this is completely incoherent, being that its an interference pattern.but , like i said im not entirely sure on this yet. so i'll need to learn more before i continue experimenting with it. Next one ok, FIRST you need to understand what the Perpetual Motion Holder is. Ed Leedskalnin gave this magical wonder to the world.its basically a metal loop, with a piece that can be open and closed like a switch. Ed used a seperate metal piece, called a "keeper", its like the bar you see across a "U"-magneta coil is wound around each end of the loop, opposite the gap.and wound opposite one another, to form two electromagnets.when current is sent through the coils, and the "keeper" is in place, a magnetic current will develop through the entire loop, holding the keeper in place. even after the electricity is shut off.After you understand this simple conceptthen go to Dave's YouTube page and watch all his videos.he shows a few different ways to make the PMH.its all the same concept, just applied differently.this new device is modeled after Ed's wheel, found in coral castleDave added his own creativity to it, and discovered that it radiates energy.its a very simple design, and Dave walks you through the building process in YouTube video. plus several other videos of him playing with it. I have to tell you, what you see in the videos doesnt do it justice, you have to see this for yourself. (all words of caution i mentioned above still apply) next post @ Hopei can confirm what Dave is saying,The test-version i built the other night was just sheet-metal bent into (almost) cylinders with nothin in the middle, i useda rubberband to keep them together until i charged it,then took the rubberband off to see that they were actually magnetically linked to each other. thats how i knew it was "on".once i pulled it apart, the pieces were no longer magnetizedJust like the PMHthe insulator dave uses (HDPE or whatever) this is much different than wood.most plastics seem to have very little attraction to the energy.but minerals and organic substances attract it very well.look at Daves videos when he plays with wood.i think using a wooden center might create a short-cut path for the energy to flow through.thats just my theory though.i know having a center to the device enables you to make it spin.but what im interested in are its solid-state applications.like a Zero-Point module. athough that cannot be used to properly explain this device, because according to ZPE theory, at a temperature of 0 Kelvin, this device would stop emmiting energy alltogether.So, from a scientific standpoint, Lambright Radiation will have to be explained by an entirely new theorem. One which should undoubetdly include Ed's model of Magnetic Current.this next post is from dave m. Hi, Dave,I finally got the tools and a galvanized pole. I cut the pole and bent the pieces to fit around my circle of plastic counter top material. I was wondering how much contact each piece needed. Right now some have contact the entire length from top to bottom and others vary. For instance, one section the pieces only contact at the top. The device will still energize like a pmh should but i fear that i dont have enough contacts to create a good working model. Please give me your opinion. I would really hate to take it apart unnecessarily. This project was very work intensive for me. When I was experimenting with it and recording, I used a large calcite crystal I had found a few years back. It seems as though the aura had a stream coming from the stone in kind of a whirling motion towards the generator. I can describe the aura itself as the same as if i let the gas out of a lighter, in that, it was a very subtle and translucent and it distorted the light reflecting through it in the same way the gas does. This made it impossible for my camera to record and for me to view later. I tried putting a window screen in front of the point of view of the camera as well and my camera simply isn't high quality enough coupled with an old tube television I have to review my videos. I thing that a new flat screen would actually clear up some of the distortions caused by this old T.V. Thanks for your inspiration Dave McTavish these next posts are from screaminvern at TEEP screaminvern (1 year ago)Remove | Block User | SpamHi david, I finished respacing the pipe segments on my wheel. I energized it with a 12V batt. I have a geode about the size of a tennis ball, and yes I can see a glimmer around it, and as a matter of fact when I move the geode over the top of the pipes, approx. 3-4 inches above, there seems to be what you discribed as a vortexPosted - 18/10/2010 : 05:29:17 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------My girlfriend, her two teens, and my 14 year old son, who described it " like a force field", see it. It is very subtle, but it is there.Posted - 19/10/2010 : 8:47:30 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Just before I took my wheel apart to adjust the gap on the pipes, I checked it with a compass, two norths and souths. Yesterday morning I set the wheel over a magnetron and was amased at how much better I could see the waves. After about 10:00 a.m. I couldn't see them until that evening. I was wondering if you have experienced this Dave.Posted - 29/10/2010 : 3:08:09 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------The best way I know to describe it Dave, did you ever see the movie "Predator" with Arnold Schwarzenegger. If you did, the way they portrayed the Predator when he was cloaked is a good analogy."caveman at a Tesla convention"These next posts are by van --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Van T Stride Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010Posts: 2 Corroborating Experience --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hi-So far, I have been a lurker in this thread, but also an avid reader of the forum and following David's YouTube vids. I KNOW that he is correct in describing what he feels / felt, while experimenting with his device. Here is my experience: I don't have resources (time, mostly) to build David's rig. So I built a small 3" PMH which consists of two semi-circular pieces of spring steel, filed on the ends, to make a slightly oval profile. I used about 25 wraps of copper wire and energized with a car battery. Both halves are magnetized together (locked). The overall shape looks a bit like an egg. (There are no heels or legs sticking out.)I mounted this to a circular piece of plastic with zip ties, used a carriage bolt with a hex-nut - on the underside of the disk - and place the bolt in my variable speed drill and spun it at approx. 500 RPM. Using a variety of stones that I have collected over the years I tried every one (including Amethyst geodes which contain quartz) and felt very little - if anything. Then I tried a green rock I have which is very heavy for it's size which definitely has a great deal of crystalline composition (might be a form of Serpentine). Using this rock I DID feel a PUSH in my hand which varied depending on how I moved the rock in relationship to the spinning PMH. Looking closely at this stone, it does have at least one surface which could be viewed as a "cavity" (CAVITATION?) that is a finger-nail sized depression in the surface. It was near this surface at about 10 degree angle to the spin plane, that provided the most feedback (although I sometimes did feel a similar push using a pointed end of the stone nearly touching the "axle."Comment to Dave: Hang in there, buddy, I know you are right - check your geode for cavities / surface features that could be somehow collecting and amplifying the effect.I also noticed that Dave's rig is without one feature that Ed's rig included (and I have seen it in other's pictures on the forum) which is the "Quatrefoil" shape (PMH?) on the top edge of Ed's machine. I would theorize that adding a part shaped like this on Dave's device may amplify or "tune" the output?? I am also in Oregon, I live well North of Dave, but both my wife and I have felt a clear "push" when moving this stone over the PMH. I am tempted to take it to his "neck of the woods" and try it there. I also saw (with my eyes) some "interaction" between the stone and the PMH but I doubt it could be filmed and I am trying to decide if I really saw what I believe I saw.Also, I feel a little odd when I am around the PMH for extended periods of time. I slept with it on the night-stand last night and slept very well, but woke feeling very off - something in the pit of my stomach???-Van These are a few posts by successful replicators. There are some however who are not getting these results. Thanks for your interest, david
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Van t stride on May 18, 2012, 10:02:00 AM
a new video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bVxF1jX7zk

Keep up the good work, David.
You need to google: "Talkingtoleedskalnin" in youTube. 

He's a member of Mensa and figured out one hidden part of the PMH.
Please don't overlook his ideas.  He also has interesting ideas on Ed's use of Water.

peace,
-Van
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on May 27, 2012, 11:09:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ITfPkzcJOQ way better video
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: TinselKoala on May 27, 2012, 05:44:26 PM
Uhhh.... that's a way better video? Better than what?

WARNING: THAT VIDEO CONTAINS A VERY VERY LOUD SOUNDTRACK.

And no explanation of what we are supposed to be seeing.

It looks to me like somebody is holding a rock or maybe a fossil coprolite and is turning it slowly so we can see all sides of it. I don't see anything unusual in this video --- other than the obnoxious soundtrack --- and in the other one with the magnet and the grid, I didn't see anything unusual either.

But I did notice that your big NdBFe magnet has some large chips out of it from multiple "loss of control" incidents. This shows that one needs to be very careful with these things. They are hazardous and can cause serious injury. I'm sure you've noticed that those chips fly off fast and are very hot. If one hits you in the eye you won't be happy. And a large magnet like that one can pinch and crush fingers to bloody pulps. They should always be kept securely attached to something so they don't go flying, and they should be handled very carefully so they don't slip out of your fingers while you are working with them. Safety glasses should be worn, and don't have any little kids around either. (They will see your magnets and sneak in while you aren't looking to play with them and they will get hurt.)


Tell me, David..... what exactly do you see?
And do other people standing next to you see exactly the same thing?

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: IotaYodi on May 27, 2012, 07:42:10 PM
That does show it more clearly Dave.
On the audio. Almost all the videos you have made the audio does get spikes. I run my computer speakers through a peavey amp and have run it through my Hartke bass amp and get the same thing. If your using the cameras audio I would see if you can lower the volume on it. If someone cant hear it well they can up their volume or get better speakers. I did view your jam video,as well as the ones I hadnt seen yet,but didnt hear any spikes on that for obvious reasons. Couldnt really see the whole guitar but it looked like a SG.  I have a les paul and a Taylor acoustic myself.
Good stuff Dave!!
Frank
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: sparks on June 01, 2012, 05:14:58 PM
  I am not saying this is what you are seeing but you should checkout gravitational lensing.  This effect allows astronomers to see stars that are behind other stars.  All mass including magnets rocks whatever bend spacetime.  Photons are massless therefore do not have the ability to bend spacetime.  They are purely comprised of  momentum.  A rock will bend spacetime just like a superdense object like a blackhole.  Photons have to follow the grid even if the grid is curved.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on July 20, 2012, 08:44:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg-w3wBN5JE check this video out, but remember how long it took me to get a decent video of the distortion i see around my devices. i will find a way to show what i and others are seeing
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: IotaYodi on July 20, 2012, 04:01:10 PM
Excellent interaction Dave! I would try a blue or violet laser as their wavelengths are shorter.
I made one of these up with 3/4" aluminium conduit flex. Its packed tight with the oxide with a small 18ga magnet wire coil and a #12 insulated coil. I tried a variety of sedimentary rocks but got nothing. Ive been letting it sit energized. I did notice that when I put a compass up to the flex that certain spots away from the coils have the needle pointing directly at the conduit indicating a north pole. Still trying to figure that one out. I may have to try aluminum tubing in order to see it. Ive only hit the coils at 9 and 12 volts. I may try 30 volts and increase the coil windings. Just for kicks Im going to wind a ground wire around the flex and go straight to ground.
 You may want to try an iron or copper wire bridge,not touching the tube, across the tube. Put a meter on it and then go to an earth ground while pulsing the laser. Who knows you may get a voltage reading.

Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Lakes on July 20, 2012, 05:54:28 PM
Can you fix the laser and spin the device?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 22, 2012, 12:55:12 PM
What i have found is that Eds PMH held this energy forever, till the core loop is broken. His generator at coral castle is a PMH, the magnetism is residual, left over from being energized like any iron PMH will do. The field that PMH makes can be oriented by gravity, artificial or natural. The artificial way Ed used was centrifugal so that the center line [axis] and equatorial plane are opposite sides of the energy he termed magnetic current. I have also found that this energy is absolutely and completely visible.[/size]VISIBLE energy field - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsyUU0fPxeo)[/font][/size] and [/size]Enhanced version] A TRULY VISIBLE MAGNETIC FLOW - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRgcC_mK97k)[/font][/size] are a couple of examples of just how visible this field can be. I am still trying to get usable video of a piece of coral deforming in this field, what i mean by that is i can push down on the coral and it bends ever so slightly but even a deformation of hundredths or even thousandths would be significant, wouldn't it ? And the way a PMH can induce giant paramagnetism in MANY metals, [aluminum, LEAD, magnesium etc.] and even heating the lead to melting did not cause the metal to loose its newfound property, just showing that this energy is profound in its abilities. With the coral, it is like the density is being manipulated, making it become softer and lighter. There is another thing i have noticed, is that at times, certain objects SEEM to loose some of their opaque-ness, but movement, or another form of energy has to be added to get that effect. I have seen a video from John Hutchinson that has many similarities to what I and many others are experiencing with the devices I make. I believe John makes something similar but with HF radio and other waves as the extra energy needed, added to a PMH type field, to obtain his effects. I believe that he looses a lot in controlability of the effect, using electrically produced fields and that Ed made the same type of field using magnetics as its source so he gained a better control of the energy fields . Edward Leedskalnin cut and placed many tons of stone. He said he used the generator, at his castle, to accomplish this feat, i believe he did just that and it is those same energy fields that I have rediscovered.[/size]
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: gadgetmall on October 24, 2012, 12:44:09 AM
David . I am totally blown away at your video . It was about 20 years ago before the internet i snagged some plans for a grey hole generator that projected an area in the middle of this thing like a time warp portal . it is still on one of my very first 286 computers in the barn or maybe on a dusty 5 1/4 floppy disk.. You reminded me of those plans and you have apparently generated a time warp field . this device was said to manipulate things that were put in it like bend metal or plastic and there was a warning not to put your hands in it ! I can find no trace of those plans anywhere on the Internet now as this was a BBS you called up to hook up communications with . If i have a good month or two i might try and find those three or 4 pages with the pictorial and diagrams..

i would very much like to replicate your findings . I have to see this with my own eyes. that is just too sci-fi to not replicate.


Ps . There has been work done on this before . Black and grey hole distortions . Hawking Spectrum
With the above assumptions, the spectrum of particles emitted during black hole decay takes the form
dN
dE ∝

E2
(eE/TH ∓ 1)
T n+6
H ( 8)
where as usual the ∓ applies to bosons and fermions, TH is the Hawking temperature
TH =
n + 1
4rS ∝ M
−
1
n+1
BH (9)
and
 is a (4 + n)-dimensional grey-body factor [9, 10, 21, 22]. The latter takes account of the fact that the wave
function of a particle created in the intense gravitational field near the horizon has to propagate through the curved
space around the black hole in order for the particle to be observed. By detailed balance, the grey-body factor is
equal to the absorption coefficient of the black hole for waves incident from infinity. For particles emitted at high
energies the wavenumber is large compared with the curvature, so grey-body effects are small and the spectrum is
close to black-body. But at low energy the emission is strongly modified in a way that depends on the spin and the
number of extra dimensions.
Figures 4–6, taken from [9], show the grey-body factors for scalars, fermions and gauge bosons as functions of the
particle energy in units of the inverse horizon radius. What is actually plotted here is the absorption cross section
in units of r2S
, which tends to 4 at high energies. We see that the main effect in extra dimensions is the suppression
of low-energy gauge boson emission.


The research was done at stanford university . http://www.slac.stanford.edu/econf/C0507252/papers/T030.PDF (http://www.slac.stanford.edu/econf/C0507252/papers/T030.PDF)

If you are seeing that field like we see it you are bending light .. Shine a laser thru it and see if it deflects on a wall
Gadget
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: MileHigh on October 24, 2012, 02:12:46 AM
I see it too but I wonder if you are just looking at video compression artifacts.  It looks like an old MPEG-style original video compression format that then gets recompressed into Flash video on YouTube.  Certain video compression algorithms can affect neighbouring compression cells and create a kind of cascade effect.

If you simply rerun some tests with coloured paper shapes or something like that and you see the same shimmering/field-like effects then that would pretty much confirm that it is all just video compression artifacts causing the effect.

MileHigh
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: Lakes on October 24, 2012, 11:41:46 AM
Yup, the effect is clearly visible in that video.

Now for extra points shine a laser though the distortion field. :)
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: gadgetmall on October 24, 2012, 04:27:57 PM
What i want to know David is the camera seeing the effect only ? Or do just your eyes see this without a camera ?

Well i read back like i should have and i see you do see it . Very Cool man . i think you are defiantly on to something .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: TinselKoala on October 25, 2012, 08:15:57 AM
Are you sure you don't mean "defiantly _on_ something?"    ;)


What has been done to rule out the possibility that the distortion seen is a result of video compression artefacts?

I'd like to know the make and model of the camera, and I'd like to have an unedited and uncompressed copy of the original raw video from the camera to look at. I don't expect to be allowed to see it, but at least I can ask. In David's other videos the effect isn't so clear and I was quite sure that anything I was seeing was artefact. But in this video the distortion is much clearer and looks different; there are lots of things I'd like to try like different camera angles and so on. Looking to see if a laser beam is distorted is a great idea. It would also be interesting to blow some smoke in there, gently, to see if the smoke swirls or moves about or is affected in some other way, or shows the effect like a movie screen or something.

Has David tried using other cameras, or perhaps even two cameras at the same time, to see if they "see" the same things?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: aaron5120 on October 25, 2012, 09:23:05 AM
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Hi Dave,
If the frequency of this field is around the far infrared range, then the field is beneficial to human beings. There are a lot of commercial products made in South Korea, Japan and Taiwan for health care that use minerals which can irradiate far infrared rays to the human body. They use this effect to improve blood circulation in the extremities in the winter. Far infrared rays have been researched during years in China as well.
I think it is not harmful to work around this device if it really irradiates far infrared frequency waves.
Good to you, David.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 25, 2012, 12:35:40 PM
Are you sure you don't mean "defiantly _on_ something?"    ;)


What has been done to rule out the possibility that the distortion seen is a result of video compression artefacts?

I'd like to know the make and model of the camera, and I'd like to have an unedited and uncompressed copy of the original raw video from the camera to look at. I don't expect to be allowed to see it, but at least I can ask. In David's other videos the effect isn't so clear and I was quite sure that anything I was seeing was artefact. But in this video the distortion is much clearer and looks different; there are lots of things I'd like to try like different camera angles and so on. Looking to see if a laser beam is distorted is a great idea. It would also be interesting to blow some smoke in there, gently, to see if the smoke swirls or moves about or is affected in some other way, or shows the effect like a movie screen or something.

Has David tried using other cameras, or perhaps even two cameras at the same time, to see if they "see" the same things?
   the main camera i use is an Apitek video/still camera, it does not really have a model#, on the side it says 720P HD 1GB internal memory. what i could do is get a new SD card, record some stuff then send it to you via mail, so you might be able to help figure this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg-w3wBN5JE is a video with a laser. what i see is the dots start to go out of sync, at least the one on the wall does. the real surprise surprise is when i use the laser near my devices, it "excites" the field and makes a tangible feeling like a pulse that comes from the device. there are a couple videos with smoke, the smoke seems to flow down in the center of the device, but again [for me] it is difficult to get a good video of it. remember how long it took me to get a video that really caught what i was seeing. these devices are simple to construct, a circular tube filled with iron oxide and energized like a Leedskalnin PMH. a friend of mine has a new android phone that shoots in 3-D. the 3-D looks great but still does not capture what i would like it to. i am trying to get a local contractor that uses FLIR to image my devices, hoping that might help capture a good image. when i first started this thread, someone was KOOKING me and posted some FLIR images of a replication of my device, the person was saying that there was NOTHING going on with my devices, like i was trying to hoax them etc. etc. i hope that they have been following my work, just so they might realize that there IS in fact a lot going on, and not be so quick to dismiss something, because it is new and different and outside the box! this stuff is hiding behind the box!! but TK, let me know if that would work with a SD card. thanks everyone for your interest. look for a video of me making a chunk of quartz PLIABLE, i will post the link when i get a good video.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: IotaYodi on October 25, 2012, 06:39:02 PM
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the real surprise surprise is when i use the laser near my devices, it "excites" the field and makes a tangible feeling like a pulse that comes from the device.
Which is the most important aspect of this field in my opinion. Doesnt seem to me thats its a simple magnetic field collapse. Photons seem to be interacting with the field causing an electric field and when the laser is moved the result may be a magnetic field collapse or other interaction within the field. These pen lasers are usually 5mv.  A higher Mv laser needs to be tested to see if the pulse is stronger.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ariovaldo on October 25, 2012, 07:01:15 PM
 Hello David !! A stupid question for you: Have you tried copper tube instead aluminum?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: TinselKoala on October 25, 2012, 07:24:11 PM
Hi David
Thanks for the info on the camera, and your willingness to share your raw data.  That's very important. I know I come off a bit flippant sometimes but I really am interested in helping.
I don't think it's necessary to send me a physical SD card, but if you could just upload the raw unconverted and uncompressed movie file to a file sharing site like MediaFire or your favorite one-- or even here in the "downloads" section if it's small enough... that would probably not add any artefacts to what the camera is doing, and I could download it and take a really good look at the distortion field. Everything we see on YouTube and embedded or streamed thru this site is compressed and otherwise corrupted from the original raw data so it's really hard to come to any conclusion from those versions.
Just take a short clip of the distortion, it doesn't have to be long, but it should show the field, the test item(s) and enough non-distorted background for comparison. Then take whatever the camera spits out and upload it and send me the link, and I'll take a look. I can actually do some pretty amazing stuff with advanced image processing if the data is there to work with in the first place and hasn't been lost thru compression or format conversion ... I'm an astrophotographer.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: gadgetmall on October 25, 2012, 07:45:27 PM

David you might believe this but a couple of months ago i was playing with a large toroid and a magnet and I Thought i saw waves from the magnet too . I really got excited and wanted to tell the world but i thought to myself "no one would believe me" and because  i didn't believe it myself . This was all before i even knew about your findings .

I tried again  with just some ring magnets and a big torroid i have with a coil on it and asked my daughter to tell me if she sees anything between it . . She does . I asked her to draw what she sees between the magnets and the toroid and she drew tiny magnet lines of force in an e shape and said they had a light blurry blue grey color . I said wow. .

I then showed here your videos and the one she picked was your last one .The difference is her young eyes are really good and she can see the detailed color of those field lines.
i believe you for sure .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: gadgetmall on October 25, 2012, 07:46:21 PM
I need to see it again .
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on October 26, 2012, 07:08:10 PM
Hello David !! A stupid question for you: Have you tried copper tube instead aluminum?
not a stupid question at all, but yes, i have a 3/8" copper tube filled with Fe3o4 iron oxide. I can not say it is better than the aluminum, but it does generate a field. i also have a mercury filled tube,[1/4" clear vinyl]that generates a visible field also. the battery i use is a 9.6 volt battery from my makita drill.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: ariovaldo on October 26, 2012, 09:38:54 PM
Thank you...I will try it next week.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: gadgetmall on October 27, 2012, 05:21:31 AM
Where did you get the iron oxide?I have an aluminium tube. The real question is do you even need a ring? Can you see Aura's on people? I can but i cannot see those waves with magnets . There must be a condition to see them?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: gadgetmall on October 27, 2012, 05:25:03 AM
Hey David,
   I have an idea to magnify then waves . Have you tried to cascade rings spaced on top to see if a more larger wave can be produced?Also Pyramids in the center ?
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: IotaYodi on October 27, 2012, 02:40:24 PM
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Where did you get the iron oxide?

http://alphachemicals.com/home

I took a 3 foot  3/4" flexible aluminum conduit stuffed full of iron oxide and wrapped 2 coils around it and energized it like a Pmh. Didnt see the waves but the magnetic pole orientation at different points around it is interesting. Its been energized over a month now.
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on November 08, 2012, 05:31:02 AM
http://alphachemicals.com/home (http://alphachemicals.com/home)

I took a 3 foot  3/4" flexible aluminum conduit stuffed full of iron oxide and wrapped 2 coils around it and energized it like a Pmh. Didnt see the waves but the magnetic pole orientation at different points around it is interesting. Its been energized over a month now.
  are you using a battery to energize? try using only one coil when energizing, and reversing the battery, like first pos to neg, then neg to pos. i know you must have some rocks around, find one with some quartz in it, then hold the rock in the middle of the ring and turn it slowly. in low light watch as you move the stone, watch the edge of the stone , that is where you should see the  field. try covering one eye, it helps. use a compass when energizing, you should be able to get the needle to move 180 degrees, when reversing the polarity. i hope this helps
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: IotaYodi on November 08, 2012, 03:27:46 PM
Cant remember If I used a a battery or dc power supply. I think it was my dc power supply.  I have a sample collection  of small rocks and some Uranium ore. Ill check it out with only one coil. 

These are the sample rocks I bought minus the Uranium ore.
http://www.xump.com/Science/GC-Sedimentary-Rock-Science-Kit%20.cfm

Good stuff Dave!
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on December 31, 2012, 05:11:23 AM
this new video shows coral deforming under pressure [hopefully] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLt3uwJr85g&list=UUGLr6nPVdiEdtit9AswkV8Q&index=1
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: david lambright on March 24, 2013, 11:26:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit?video_id=pzzeu7o60Uw&ns=1 a new video, let me know what you think!
Title: Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
Post by: rensseak on March 24, 2013, 02:40:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit?video_id=pzzeu7o60Uw&ns=1 (http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit?video_id=pzzeu7o60Uw&ns=1) a new video, let me know what you think!

Wrong link. This should work better (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzzeu7o60Uw)