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nightlife

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #705 on: June 11, 2011, 04:04:55 AM »
 LOL, you guys crack me up. What you all are seeing is a twisting energy field and do to the fact that everything is nothing more then a energy, you will expirience such sights as that when moving things around or other energy is brought in the picture. Hutchinson and the Narrows should remind you of such effects.
 I have been trying to tell everyone this but no one seems to understand. Nothing is solid and everything is nothing more then a energy field. Answer these questions.

 How can we see things?
 How can we feel things?
 How can we hear things?
 How can we smell things?

 Once you have been able to answer those questions properly, you should then understand what everything is. Once we realise what everything really is, we can then start moving forward trying to find ways to utilize all the energy around us. One problem we have is greed. Everything is alive and life must consume life to survive. The more energy we consume, the more life we consume which effects our generations to come. We are going to screw around and mess everything up at the rate we are going. We must be carefull becuase we could possibly create an energy field that may alter all the energy fields that we have today. Take heed to this, we are an energy field too.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #706 on: June 11, 2011, 04:26:08 AM »
I think that it is unlikely that we will kill all human life resonance for a human being is different from person to person we are complex beings by nature while we are sometimes persuaded by suggestive thought others may not be and this is one thought that I chose not to agree with.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #707 on: June 11, 2011, 04:33:24 AM »
hi everyone
i just have to say, after reading all you guys posts, you guys are very smart and have really got this thread moving in a good direction, [you guys have brains, i HAD one, once] anyway i thank you all for your help with this...i have to agree with farmhand, i cannot claim any thing as my own, i am just trying to help bring it together....this all started a couple years ago ,[actually when i was 5] i was messing around with magnet motor designs and then i remembered Ed...a lot of years ago i had our library get an original copy of Magnetic Current....it was small so i copied all the pages...i remember it took a week for our library to get it..i think i was in my late 20s so around 20 years ago...the words he used, "Perpetual Motion Holder" always caught my attention..so a couple years ago, i made my first PMH, with a 16d nail, bent into a U about an inch tall..i used wire from a transformer and a 9v battery to energize .. i made more Us [no coil] and found i could link a a few them using just the one small coil [5 or 6 in a circle] it was then i realized Eds flywheel IS a PMH....i started to experiment with toroid shapes, small at first and with a 1/3 section cut out [2 junctions] and two coils...i like the single junction ring because it would clang when it was energized ...i found that metals seemed to behave strangely, especially a ring shape spinning...i tried different coil configurations/ sizes/wire materials etc...i kept thinking i saw the wires move, so i marked their positions..they were NOT moving...there was something distorting the image....what was this?..WHY was this?...i had to find out..i set about making the distortion more "visible" so that i might understand it better...i found that not just steel or iron would work but ferrite/Fe3o4 oxide will work BETTER for my purposes.....i have made one out of ferro fluid and one using mercury as the core..i found that quartz and other crystal seemed to reflect or absorb this energy..i had to build something similar to Eds, to see if the field was stronger in that type of design..i did, it was..while working with that configuration, i kept feeling like a pulling/attraction at the poles and a pushing/repulsion at the plane..i could see this energy and it is exactly a double helix spiral form!. could it be that this energy i was seeing, was in fact the same type of energy Ed used at coral castle?..i had to find out....i went over everything i could find about Ed and his castle..in some of his photos there is to me, evidence of this energy being used..the shadows in some of the photos looked to me like they were distorted, as if by a heat type wave, when the rest of the photo was in focus...the energy i was seeing was exactly that form!..like a mirage ...this was starting to make sense to me now..Ed told us that the energy he used was NOT electricity or magnetism, but something different, deeper than those forces...a SOUND BASE to start from...i KNOW that this visible distortion, is just a part of this energy...when i watch videos now, like Hutchinson's, i can see the same distortion happening...i am compiling a list of videos that i can see the distortions in....

I will give you an easy way to test this theory and prove it.

Build 20 of these rings.
Stack them like pancakes creating a tube.
Build 20 of these rings with no magnetic properties just hallow rings and stack them.
Get two super balls with the same weight and size.
Build two sensors that will trigger a led to light up when hit.
Place these sensors in the middle at the bottom of the stack.
Borrow a high speed camera and see if gravity was at all distorted by dropping both balls from the same height at the same time. See which one lands first repeat the experiment numerous times to assure find is correct and show precise measuring to display the heights are equal.
If it is something worth investigating people will take this further.

Simple...

Me personally I see no distortion that is out of the ordinary for cameras of all types I just see a ring. But it would be easy to prove your theories or disprove them!

"It is not the spoon that bends Neo it is your mind." famous quote from the matrix.

As to your response for needing a special camera to view your possible effect:

Run an add in the classifieds until you get one that would be my best guess otherwise contact your local collage and ask if they could film it for you. Like I said if you believe there is any kind of wild anti gravity effect... I gave you a simple test.

nightlife

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #708 on: June 11, 2011, 04:49:39 AM »
I think that it is unlikely that we will kill all human life resonance for a human being is different from person to person we are complex beings by nature while we are sometimes persuaded by suggestive thought others may not be and this is one thought that I chose not to agree with.

-infringer-

 There isn't enough DNA differences among the human race to justify there being multiple races amung the human race. That speaks for its self.
 Now we have to think about the basic energy fields such as the basic elements. The atom is a energy field just as each element that makes up an atom is. If we were to alter one of the elements that make up a atom and it caused a chain reaction that altered all of those like elements, I would bet it would end life as we know it.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #709 on: June 11, 2011, 04:04:22 PM »
ferro fluid + magnet + saturation
if i suspend a 1/2" cylinder neo magnet by a string and dip it into ferro fluid, i can saturate it to the point that it will not hold any more. add a drop and a drop will fall off, gravity having full effect. OK, now if i add a stack of 10 -1/8" cylinder neo magnets, it is like having a stream, leading to a pond. the small magnets allow the fluid to flow UP to the larger one. the same saturation occurs, if i add a drop, a drop flows off, AND if i use an eye dropper, and pull a drop off, a drop will flow up to replace it. because of this fact, a siphon CAN be started and a continuous flow will take place in the tube. a porous material like earth will do the same thing with water. if you had a large container with a cone shaped island, with water in it, added water till there is some standing in the low end, you could make a well at the highest point. the water level in the well will be higher than at the outer water level, so a slow siphon could be made there too. a valve could be used to adjust the flow out so as not to exceed the wells refill rate, making a continuous flow. this does not bother any physical laws, but rather embraces them. this would mean in a closed system [no evaporation], this system should keep a constant flow forever, gravity being the engine. a continuous flow of water through a tube. natures wheelwork. we know how a water table will raise water, and the physics of a siphon to make it flow in a tube, downward. the only thing is there must be a starting action, but it will flow as long as there is water in system....david.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #710 on: June 11, 2011, 09:29:57 PM »
expirement
i had a limited amount of ferro fluid but was able to achieve constant flow. the way i did this was to submerge the siphon tube, then carefully keeping both ends in the fluid, bring the inlet of the tube to the top of the magnet/ferro fluid. by keeping the outlet in the fluid, it does not matter if the inlet gets too close to the magnet. then i carefully raised the inlet to the surface of the fluid and absolutely got a constant flow of FF through the tube. if i narrowed the inlet it would help, but it worked! if it were not so messy i would try to film it. i ask that anyone trying these experiments use ALL safety precautions/protection. but it did work!........david

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #711 on: June 15, 2011, 09:33:56 AM »
       this is a diagram of an experiment i did. if you imagine a flat rubber sheet and the magnets as being dents that allow the ferro fluid to puddle. any place on the surface of the FF around the neo magnets, is EXACTLY like the level of a pond or lake. the small magnets are like a trough leading to a large pool, [big magnet] all of it having the same level, the pool being deeper and wider. there are only 2 forces, attraction/repulsion. i DID this experiment and it absolutely works. a constant flow machine. this flow must be started, not self starting. the ferro fluid will easily climb 2, 5, 10 feet, up a neo magnet chain....david     http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/continiousflow.png/

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #712 on: June 15, 2011, 12:18:30 PM »
Sorry David, this WON'T work forever as you have stated.  Whilst I agree that it may work initially for a short while, you will find that it will fall victim to the old enemies of friction.  Ferrofluid is the weak point here.

Ferrofluid is like a fine silt and of course you have in an oil, the magnetic particles held in suspension.  As they rise along the magnets some of the particles will immediately adhere to the magnets whilst the main 'flow' continues on its way.  With each 'loop' more and more particles will drop out of suspension and stick to the building 'silt bed' of particles adhering to the magnetic core until the stream is flowing much slower and drawn only by wicking.

Besides....you can't draw any usable power off this.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #713 on: June 16, 2011, 02:27:23 AM »
Sorry David, this WON'T work forever as you have stated.  Whilst I agree that it may work initially for a short while, you will find that it will fall victim to the old enemies of friction.  Ferrofluid is the weak point here.

Ferrofluid is like a fine silt and of course you have in an oil, the magnetic particles held in suspension.  As they rise along the magnets some of the particles will immediately adhere to the magnets whilst the main 'flow' continues on its way.  With each 'loop' more and more particles will drop out of suspension and stick to the building 'silt bed' of particles adhering to the magnetic core until the stream is flowing much slower and drawn only by wicking.

Besides....you can't draw any usable power off this.
...........i love it when someone tells me i CANT do something...did you come to your conclusion by actual experimentation? so if i leave a magnet in ferrofluid, the oxide particles will settle?.....why do you say i cant draw any usable "power" from this?...i disagree. a liquid falling on a water wheel will most assuredly cause it to spin. as far as i know a spinning shaft can be used to drive what ever you attach it to....what is not usable? what kind of power do you refer to?....anyway i look forward to making a video, of this "not" working...but when i do, i do not think it will be good enough for some people,[you]. it wont make "power", or not enough, or the "wrong" kind of power. if you want, and you look hard enough, you can find fault in anything, some people are just that way i guess. i think back on how many times in the past someone has been told "that will not work", and went on to make "it" work, what it breaks down to is this, you cant......I CAN, because i believe i can, and i will not give up cause you say i cant, or that wont work...how many great discoveries were made even though some naysayer with ZERO imagination or vision said it cant be done? one more thing, even if the particles of oxide settle, a moving fluid will keep a channel open, but this flow is all at the SURFACE, look at it like this, the magnets are a super efficient WICK right? you said yourself it is drawn up by wicking and the nano-particle ferro fluid seems to stay in suspension pretty good.....dont get me wrong, i value negative input as well as the positive, but regardless, i will not be influenced by naysayers "cant do that" or "that wont work", because i believe in myself, and i CAN!   .. .  . .   .david

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #714 on: June 16, 2011, 08:28:07 AM »
...........i love it when someone tells me i CANT do something...did you come to your conclusion by actual experimentation? so if i leave a magnet in ferrofluid, the oxide particles will settle?.....why do you say i cant draw any usable "power" from this?...i disagree. a liquid falling on a water wheel will most assuredly cause it to spin. ....dont get me wrong, i value negative input as well as the positive, but regardless, i will not be influenced by naysayers "cant do that" or "that wont work", because i believe in myself, and i CAN!   .. .  . .   .david

Whoa David...relax and take some more medication or something!

I dont believe there was anything anywhere in my post that was negative to YOU personally, nor did I say that YOU can't do something.  LOL.  Oh man...bully for you, go knock yourself out with it, I don't care.  My post was an honest critical look at the mechanisms of the process (flawed as they are).  If that happens to be positive or negative and you can't take it because it is some baby you hatched, don't wail about it.  How are you ever going to survive peer review in the real world if you behave like that?

1)  Yes I have experimented with ferrofluid so wasn't talking out of my arse
2)  Of course a water wheel can perform work but at what rate is it going to spin?  VERY SLOW (plus you still have to attach a load).
3)  The process WILL eventually stop.

But hey...don't take my word for it....hop to it and see for yourself.

You and BruceTPU would get along great.  I worry about that guy.  Maybe he has hung himself after figuring out there is no OU from his paralleled 'Super coils'.  LOL  Yeh...thats a guy that can't handle the truth after a few people have tried to point things out.

Whatever.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #715 on: June 16, 2011, 03:31:16 PM »
@ EGoose

the "silting" effect has to do with the quality of the ferrofluid.

The more "colloidal" the fuild, i.e. smaller particle size, the better it will stay in suspension. There are fluids that can sit in a magnetic field for long periods of time, and not separate. High-quality fluids like that are expensive and difficult to find at times...
 
But you can manufacture your own, with a lot of effort.

the best ive done was to get an accrylic (or plastic) box, drill a hole in it to fit a piece of ferrous steel pipe
put a grinder bit on the dremmell, and go to town on it inside the box to catch all the steel dust.
when you're done, you should have a nice pile of dust, then run it through a very fine metal filter/strainer, to catch any large particles.

and CAREFULLY mix it, to avoid clumping.

the proportion of dust to oil is very important, and i never could get an accurate ratio formula. so you just have to play around with it, adding more dust until you get it to behave the way you want to under a magnetic field.
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Liquids have a physical "droplet size", its hard to see this with oil, because its viscious.. but every liquid has this.
This is basically the smallest ammount you can easily break it down to, before the surface tension prevents you from breaking the droplet down any smaller.

when the particle size of the metal is close to, or smaller than the droplet size, the magnetic field cannot silt it out. It always remains coated with oil, the the oil will actually repel the particles away from each other. This is what makes colloidal suspension different from chunks of metal floating around in an oil..







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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #716 on: June 18, 2011, 08:20:49 PM »
a concept      (http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6531/designconcept.png)

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Uploaded with ImageShack.us this is just something i thought of, i dont think it will work.......the other experiment i did was too hard to keep the tube immersed in the fluid, very small flow only.........i think this concept should work....then again, i have been wrong MANY times before.....please let me know your thoughts on whether you think this will work or not...david

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« Reply #717 on: June 23, 2011, 04:51:35 AM »
This is a concept using an aluminum tube Rodin coil shaped filled with ferro fluid then energized as a PMH which makes me also see it wrapped with TPU coils to capture the flow of electrons which of course will be a constant generator... though knowing of the magnetic field disassociation may be harder to capture.  Because of this "throwing of the magnetic field" there will be useful pressure causing a lot of activity in the TPU windings.  It shows promise in that by mere physical design of the Rodin coil the magnetic field is being perfectly circulated WITHOUT any "stick"(back emf) which of course is and has been the devil in these many efforts at magnetic OU.  Once again the natural path wins out at mere simplicity which would tend to show, though hard to make in build automation, is the necessary pattern of magnetic flow.  Working WITH this flow eliminates physical problems later in operation.  This is further confirmed since the design of the Rodin coil needs no insulator coating but yet does not short out.  Any comments are asked for and appreciated.

After drawing this concept out it showed that an outer covering tube instead of circular windings would capture flow unhampered.  So with this in mind the whole idea has a completed congruity and seems to be worthy of some bantering about of you all.  Still the coil could be or should be pulsed cycled within the ferro fluid building momentum and a harvest-able output should follow.  It is yet to be established if this will be a harmonic recombination which will yield amassed energies.  But this seems to me to be a natural assumption if the fields can not escape capture.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #718 on: June 24, 2011, 08:34:57 PM »
I have had a dream about this design and it has a glass Rodin coil filled with a fluid that resembles mercury inside.  There is a grid of diamond shaped gold colored wire mesh covering the glass which had what resembles quartz covering the wire mesh finely.    Within the shiny fluid are grid plates (just a few) here and there.  The whole coil is suspended within a golden quartz looking wire mesh that is saucer shaped which seemed to pulse with movement in the coil assembly.   When the outer mesh pulsed the inner grid plates glow a bit.  Hope this means something to a reader who can relate what this might be,  I am, like you all, searching for a way of generating power that is green and OU.   Thanks.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #719 on: June 28, 2011, 06:04:08 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ges-FQmYrk another video trying to show the flow of this energy and a brief explanation...thanks, david