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Author Topic: a new kind of visible radiant energy?  (Read 250092 times)

Offline Hope

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2010, 06:32:11 AM »
David,   Thank you!   This is idea is making many of the inventions and projects here tye into the mag theory of Ed Leeds......  Bending light with only shapes            that is KISS!   Nature uses this method as the DEFAULT why can't we?  Our projects need a baseline.    Why not set our OWN current limit?   I mean why ever use more or experiment with more than you would be willing to use daily to complete your goal?     if you place a small bulb into the input circuits then you will limit the current flow as you change the blub values.   Then you can begin to check what is acceptiable and what is "over limits".
« Last Edit: August 21, 2010, 06:53:40 AM by Hope »

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2010, 11:18:12 AM »
@ Dave

im am particularly interested in this effect while the ring is stationary. not spinning.
 It still persists, all-be-it much less intensly.

its kind of "hard to see" on the video. i was wonderng if you could talk more about this field.

it didn't appear to be "static".  was that an effect of the camera? or does that field actually move around, as if it is reacting with everything around it?

also, have you tried turning it over? so the other side (+/-) is facing up? if so, what differences did you observe?

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2010, 07:41:26 PM »
hi smokey...this wave like distortion radiates off my devices 360 degrees...even when stationary this is going on....what i see is like a heat type wave with out the heat...it interacts with every thing around it....quartz crystal we know is an oscillator having its own frequency...is this distortion what causes quartz and every thing else to vibrate?...david

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2010, 08:53:06 PM »
So if everything is vibrating, due all things have poles?  So far "standard science" teaches us about differences in potentials and seeking balance.  This device will be a build for me also.   I will post results and try to capture it better on video.   Wondering if two of these devices in-sync or opposition would build on effect?  Stacked?  This will be a fun one! 

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2010, 09:02:26 PM »
hope, i do not know the answer to that .....from what i have been reading, electrogravatic  effects made with high voltages are dangerous.....what if my devices can reproduce the effects without the dangerous by-products?   this is very, very interesting to me.....thanks for your interest also...david

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2010, 09:12:18 PM »
If we are seeking physical work done from our devices, using electricity is only one way of doing the job.  We are going to have to design what will look pretty weird to the masses at first. But when they understand it is just using a newly (re) found radiant energy, they will comprehend it no problem.   Our normal electricity theory based test equipment won't be of much use to us, so I look forward to the new tools we will be discovering.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2010, 10:12:45 PM »
As Ed teaches us, a constant flow of electricity is not necessary to sustain a magnetic current.

if these affects are caused by the electro-magnetic features of an HV-field, then it may very well be possible to do it without electricity.

Dave,
          Your unique perspective of Ed's wheel has led me to realize something important...
An affect i observed many years ago, is in fact a variation of Ed's wheel. I had just never looked at it that way, because the physical design is so diferent.

Consider this for a moment, each of those pipe-segments is forming a seperate magnet.

N - S at the "gap". horizontally polarized.

the flux-path  creates a spherical vortex, causing this energy to radiate upwards through the center, and back around the sides to the bottom. like the EMF from an active toriod.

If you examine an arc-type path around the outside surface, from top to bottom, like in front of the "gap" that area between the two magnets is of great importance.

I would suggest tunring a permanent magnet perpendicular to this field (north and south up and down), and pass it along the arc in front of one of those "gaps". and observe the effects. if i am correct, this should behave similar to a graviational 'orbit'

I will begin construction of one of these devices as soon as possible. My idea is to make it smaller, to concentrate the effect.
and also to create one very large one (maybe 4-inch pipe?),
to observe this on a grand-scale.



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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2010, 04:54:15 AM »
   Our normal electricity theory based test equipment won't be of much use to us, so I look forward to the new tools we will be discovering.

It may not be as complicated as it seems.
i read a paper in the early 90's, that theorized two sides of the electrical current. 

the unidirectional force that we utilize,
and an equal and opposite force the other direction. (negative current). There was of course so physical apperatus by which to test this, all of our equipent is " one sided".


I bring this up because, as Ed states, the magnetic current runs the same way, in both directions.
It is this interaction, i believe , that is causing this new effect we are observing.
the flux paths here, are not completely closed, like in the PMH.
they are broken on the outside of the loop.
but the inside is closed.
this tells me that the two mangetic current paths should be running at two different speeds. Or at least completing their loop at two different times,. the point is, that they are not just pushing/pulling on one another, but actually passing each other.

Could this be the cause of the new "magnetic heat" ?

we need to find a way to interact with this field directly.
perhaps multiple devices, with the fields facing each other?
could there be a material, we have not tried yet, that can interact strongly with the field?


What is the outcome, when dropping 2 objects in free-fall from the same height?
one object in the earth's gravitational field alone,
and the other object falling through this new field.

do objects still fall at the same rate?
if not, this may be some form of "gravity wave radiation".
i have doubts about that line of thinking though, i do not think "gravity" comes in the form of einsteinian waves.

i believe this is another dimension of the magnetic effect.
magnetism, electromagnetism, "gravity",
and this new one that, unlike the other three, appears to be at least somewhat in the visible spectrum. or perhaps interfering with the light that passes through it. either way, we can "see" it,.
where as, we cant see the other 3 types of fields, without the help of some kind of "viewing device".

is it purely optical in nature? could this be some sort of low-frequency photon generator? like around 403Thz, just on the line between infrared and visible light?

Or could this simply be magnetically orienting the atoms/molecules in the atmosphere around the device? causing them to diffract light differently than normal "air".?

i think figuring out how to interact with this stuff is going to have to be the first step in determining its nature.



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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2010, 07:09:30 AM »
here is a link to visual distortions around an object being levitated by John Hutchinson     http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=60&ved=0CEYQFjAJODI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.treurniet.ca%2Fphysics%2Fhutch.htm&ei=GalwTL29OZL6swOQ3MWxCw&usg=AFQjCNEICb0eeqUopr6od2f8JfV0wBRCaA&sig2=sh4i5ooEVbDYklI58CgYlQ     i will post more as i find more !....david

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2010, 08:44:58 PM »
Well if there is a front radiant focus maybe there is a reversed flow in the center of the device.   This observable phenomena is different than any other topic and I believe it deserves its own thread, as for me the island recyclers had the materials just a waiting for me yesterday.  My neighbor has a chop saw so I guess this will be going together soon and I will TRY VERY hard to get pictures and scan them (not digital)  I think this wave is so faint the camera makes it look like pixel variance from camera motion but it is NOT.   Even if the camera is mounted ridged this was still happening.   Can you explain how you magnetically locked the wheel again,  wire gauge..how many turns.. where..  what size battery ..... which pole to which wire?  It LOOKED straight forward, but I want to replicate your creation closely.   And as for seeing it on your videos David, I could see it best on your outside in the yard shots with you holding the rock and spinning the wheel, hope someone with a real film movie camera will capture this sight due to it's a lens device also.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2010, 09:11:33 PM »
hope....i must work today, when i return today i will post the dimensions again...have you seen the step by step videos?here is the link    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjh5OE6yerk     there are 5 videos.....if you want to see the effect, you can construct my other device, an aluminum tube filled with iron oxide and energized like Eds PMH....the oxide core device is easier and less expensive to construct....thanks for your interest......and rosemary, what do you think of the progress so far?....we are getting closer to the answers that we seek.....do you think we are ready to move this thread out of the half baked ideas yet?....thanks rose for having believed in me....you are my friend!....david

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2010, 04:22:39 AM »
Hi David,   Just the copper wire info   winds   battery volt/amps and how you make it lock magnetically  an to which poles?    OK please bend your ears a second,  today while working on this build we discovered that even in open air the dust from splitting the pipe made the fillings in our teeth galvanic   or maybe was splitting that long cavity did something.... careful .     BEST suggestion since the cutting is very slow and will take hrs,   just have it cut by someone setup for it,  it will take them minutes compared to hours and they will know how to safely handle that hard pipe.   I second your suggestion David to have a metal worker or pipe shop make your pipe into ready to use pieces. So far after 3 hrs of cutting we are half way through making the metal parts.   Will keep you informed on progress.  And a pipe (tubing cutter) cutter is great making the sections.
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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2010, 08:04:14 AM »
yeah, im not sure how to tackle that part...

i have a nice piece of pipe, and i bought a cheap cutting board to slice a circle out of, but i dont have a saw like Dave has.,

started to tackle it with a hack-saw, but thats kind of loud here at night, so i'll get back at it when i get some "daytime" freetime.
i have a Diamond-Carbide high-speed cutting bit for my Dremmell
i may see how that goes ( after suiting up in the appropriate safety equipment).  I can easily chop a screw or nail in half with that bit, so it should cut the pipe no problem, as long as it doesnt dull it i guess.... if not i'll just man-handle it with the hacksaw.

my first thought was to search for some "slit pipe", or half-round
but i couldn't find anything like that at the hardware store.
so i just went with the fence-post like Dave used but mine is a tad smaller diameter.

i'll post on how it progresses



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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2010, 09:14:16 AM »
charge an object, piece of hair, styrofoam
and move it to the center of the vortex

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2010, 09:19:22 AM »
a charged particle gets sucked straight down into the center, superfast, and gently floats back up around the outside, and back in again..

why does $%^!* radiate like heat??!?!??
wtf is this?

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[edit:   i took it apart. I think we should probably figure out more about what this is, or at least where it sits frequency-wise, before we continue playig with it in our homes....]



 

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