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cletushowell

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #255 on: September 01, 2010, 07:25:11 AM »
Your yellow dots redid my black hole formula you see the same frequency the six again the inside the outside equal
a tunnel a pipe you go thru time
between the v you call it phase i call it amazing

sm0ky2

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #256 on: September 01, 2010, 07:36:40 AM »
@ Cletus

yeah, i was gonna re-do that drawing to show Dave's 18 instead of 12, but then i realized they were the same as the 6. just twice as large,
so the 6 is in between,
the 18 is in line with the 6,
and the 24 is off-set.
and the 36 will give the best output.


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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #257 on: September 01, 2010, 07:41:01 AM »
    Since there are realitivistic effects of time and distance being warped everything we see in the lightverse may obtain its energy from darkverses that reside at different energy densities either side of the lightverse.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #258 on: September 01, 2010, 07:47:47 AM »
Hi Cletus,

Let me share a little philosophy on religion with you... religion is a mechanism of control over a population.  Its primary means of effecting this control over a society is fear of retribution.  Galileo, anyone?  Quoth the Indigo Girls:  "Galileo's head was on the block, his crime was looking at the truth...  I call on the resting soul of Galileo, King of night vision, King of Insight."  Galileo was persecuted BY THE CHURCH because he understood and built upon that blasphemous concept brought forward by Copernicus that THE EARTH WAS NOT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.  Stephen Hawking on the matter:  "Galileo, perhaps more than any other single person, was responsible for the birth of modern science."  Almost 500 years after his death, completely vindicated by the science he was progenitor to, Galileo has the unique privilege of still giving the church the finger every day: 
http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/galileo/finger.html
In truth, more atrocities, genocides, inequities, and downright lies have been committed under the banner of religion throughout history than any other 3 social forces combined. 

The second point I will raise has to do with chess, the "Game of Kings."  Pieces on a chessboard are representative of parts of society.  The king and queen literally represent royalty.  The bishops represent the force of religion on a population.  They protect the royalty internally from the knights (military or police) who in turn protect both the church and royalty from the rooks (organized crime).
The pawns, of course, are cannon fodder... the first sent into battle with opposing nations.  Ever wonder why there are so many Pawn shops but no King shops?  The point to that is that religion is one of the most powerful tools used by rulers to effect their will.  To wit: Why are there so many versions of the Bible?  Simply because it has be edited, amended, and rewritten countless times over the centuries to suit the needs of the ruling party at that specific time, precisely because religion is a tool used to rule over men and women.

Ill corect you again and defend marko
have you seen marco wire a coil
have you seen marco with a coil

Ahemm... from his own website, first video:
http://www.markorodin.com/content/view/27/60/

Checkmate.  Thank you for playing.  Anyone else?  No?  Good.
Can we return to doing some science now, upon that fine foundation Galileo laid for us?

Cheers,
Twinbeard

sm0ky2

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #259 on: September 01, 2010, 07:56:31 AM »
@ twinbeard

organized religion aside..
there are things in the bible, that originated from ancient egyptian writings
which may be very relevant here.

their description of electricity, magnetism, and energy in general was almost identicle to the descriptions used by Ed Leedskalnin.

remnants of this have survived even today in the Holy Babble.


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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #260 on: September 01, 2010, 08:32:05 AM »
hi twinbeard...thanks for posting!...

Hi David!  Nice to meet you.  I have to ask, because you look quite familiar... played any golf in Denver lately?  If not, it is merely a coincidence of appearance, but that gentlemans name was David as well.


you are familiar with Mandelbrot i understand....his sets are a description of a flat plane vortex?
Not exactly...  only recently have we had the computing power to represent the sets visually in greater
than two axes.  Enter the mandelbulb:
http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/mandelbulb.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w6vo9t62c0

quaternion julia... the 2nd 1/4 of this one shows the quaternion render...  looks quite like a toroidal magnetic field to me:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DceNY8flLM
mandelcube:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLSIaNR9Rr0

and finally, open source software to render your own:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mandelbulber/

...Fibonacci's spiral and the Mandelbrot sets should go together...i believe that the way that all plants grow follows a magnetic pattern...

Hear, Hear!  Ever notice that if you view an entire oak tree, roots and branches, you see something similar to the field of a spherical magnet?

the same pattern like you talked about...the helix...when this radiation is made to vortex it gets very strong....can you tell me more of Mandelbrot and Julia?...thanks....david

Its not so much the sets that are important, IMHO, it is recognizing fractally iterative systems in nature.  The film Pi was right... mathematics IS the language of nature.  What would you like to know?  I will do my best to accomodate, but I am far from the authority on the subject... there are entire forums devoted to the subject... I'm sure we could recruit one of their potentates to assist, however.

Cheers,
Twinbeard


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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #261 on: September 01, 2010, 08:34:42 AM »
@ twinbeard

organized religion aside..
there are things in the bible, that originated from ancient egyptian writings
which may be very relevant here.

their description of electricity, magnetism, and energy in general was almost identicle to the descriptions used by Ed Leedskalnin.

remnants of this have survived even today in the Holy Babble.


I concur... we have lost quite a bit of info through the years, and more has been hidden.  The end of that last ice age really kicked our asses.

Cheers,
Twinbeard

sparks

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #262 on: September 01, 2010, 01:36:45 PM »
If you do a some mathmaticall speculation as to how many times mankind in the last million years or so was able to come to a point in his technological advancement (the smart monkeys ability to create tools of various forms) where his tools had the potential to master nature itself to create energy from matter and matter from the created energy using the last three hundred years as a constant in the acceleration of mankinds technology the probablity of ancient civilizations pocessing hightech tools is almost a surety.  What they did with this technology is most probably to destroy each other in some stupid religious wars.  In the beginning all was void.  Everything was in the form of dark matter.  Then God made light.  Obviously this God dude was a dark matter elitist who went off and created his own Universe and pisssed off the darkmatter power structure.  The forces of light and dark battling ever since. ::)

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #263 on: September 01, 2010, 02:19:23 PM »
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If you do a some mathmaticall speculation as to how many times mankind in the last million years or so was able to come to a point in his technological advancement (the smart monkeys ability to create tools of various forms) where his tools had the potential to master nature itself to create energy from matter and matter from the created energy using the last three hundred years as a constant in the acceleration of mankinds technology the probablity of ancient civilizations pocessing hightech tools is almost a surety.  What they did with this technology is most probably to destroy each other in some stupid religious wars.  In the beginning all was void.  Everything was in the form of dark matter.  Then God made light.  Obviously this God dude was a dark matter elitist who went off and created his own Universe and pisssed off the darkmatter power structure.  The forces of light and dark battling ever since. ::)

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #264 on: September 01, 2010, 03:48:33 PM »
Back to coil designs....
http://www.rexresearch.com/hubbard/hubbard.htm

Alfred M. Hubbard's coil design has always interested me.
He powered an electrical motor to run a boat with it.


"he selected to put 8 cylinder coils around his central coil.
Starting from the center of each of these 8, if you draw a line
to the center of the coil, you have a distance that can be derived
by dividing the circle up into 8 equal angles - 45 degrees.
Then using algebra, you can find the inner core diameter
relative to those outer coil diameters.
The ratio works out to be 1.613"


If this post has nothing to do with this thread then please ignore it.  :-X

DonL



cletushowell

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #265 on: September 01, 2010, 04:22:08 PM »
When god pissed off the dark
matter it was light in the begining the he seperates the
light which creates darkness then he says let there be light
he times his magic show till sun apears
around the earth then in end theres no
need of sun nor moon a light we are in a loop
you cannot die everyone lives eternaly whether its inside
earth when time stops or outside with time stoped and no watter now if you went to the moon and warp water then you would be a God
controlling the implosion and explosion
of planets so lets magnetise water and build a power supply
to send it to moon get off this dam planet

nievesoliveras

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #266 on: September 01, 2010, 04:26:58 PM »
@all

This is my report of the device sent by @lambright.

I have not been able to make it work or to see the effect.

Thinking that maybe it was damaged during the mail journey, after several hours of having it hanged from a string I decided to clean it up a little.

It was a weather mistreated aluminum tube, so I sanded it and make it shine.
I thought that maybe giving it a 12v jolt will start it and did that.
Then shiny and with a jolt of 12v Hanged again on a string outside on the sun.

A neighbor came by to ask me for some community work and began to crack jokes about me playing with the device.

I ask him to watch carefully for the explained efect to see if he could see it and he could not.

Question:
What am I doing wrong?

Jesus

PS
I am still building an aluminum variable capacitor. It seems that the aluminum I could get is very difficult to cut and shape as desired.

If anyobody wants to replicate this Variable capacitor I posted the pdf here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=437
« Last Edit: September 01, 2010, 04:53:49 PM by nievesoliveras »

cletushowell

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #267 on: September 01, 2010, 04:38:32 PM »
Hey sparky did you send me a email
i just got a email no words you know I really want to
give this to you and rose but really you know who deserves it
is dave I would like dave to see what he actually
did if thats ok with everyone ive had this done for a few months
dave started this thread and he deserves the key
unless someone post it which i hope you dont
post it with the lines in the structure i give you
but you can spin that star of 12 to center in the
6 the edge of the circles should be between the point on outside ring
thats correct

sm0ky2

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #268 on: September 01, 2010, 05:41:16 PM »
@ Jesus

it will not work unless there is a magnetic current flowing through the device.
You need to be sure this happens before attempting to make an observation. there are multiple effects going on here, when its "on", you will know.

If you are not familiar with this concept, i will make my best attempt to describe it and do so (hopefully) without befouling Ed's ideas....

essentially you have a loop of non-magnetized, ferromagnetic metal. (ceramics may be possible, ihavent tried)
at one end of this loop, you place a coil, or two coils,
i have seen it done with as many as 4.

Ed shows this using two coils on a "U"-shaped bar
with a "keeper" bar placed across the gap

Dave shows this with two coils on a barrell-ring type thing

You can see the effect when its "on" in both demonstrations, because in a) the keeper stays magnetically connected.  and in b) the bareel-ring, which is "springy" stays closed.

in BOTH examples,
when you break the magnetic current
you get an electrical pulse out the coils. this has been shown on meters, and to light LEDs.

You need to understand what the magnetic current is, and make sure that it is flowing through the ring.

Thats step 1.
and should/must preceed any experimentation.

Hope that helps..




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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #269 on: September 01, 2010, 05:47:56 PM »
@ Cletus

i sent you an empty msg, so you would have my address.
i thought you were asking me for it