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Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #210 on: August 31, 2010, 01:00:25 PM »
For example::
if you triangulate the squared circle, square the resulting octagon, triangulate that square, square the axis
then circle the square.
You have effectively reduced its size to one third.
And what i just did in one sentence, would have taken a mathematician half a sheet of paper, and a whole lot more time.

But, if you were to just read that sentence, without me explaining this to you......
you would think im crazy, and have no clue about Pi, Radii, and the area of a circle. But as you can clearly see here, there are other ways to solve the problem than the commonly accepted model presented by physics.

Thanks Sm0ky - I get it.  Very cool.

Kindest as ever
Rosie

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #210 on: August 31, 2010, 01:00:25 PM »

Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #211 on: August 31, 2010, 01:29:47 PM »
For example::
if you triangulate the squared circle, square the resulting octagon, triangulate that square, square the axis
then circle the square.
You have effectively reduced its size to one third.
And what i just did in one sentence, would have taken a mathematician half a sheet of paper, and a whole lot more time.

But, if you were to just read that sentence, without me explaining this to you......
you would think im crazy, and have no clue about Pi, Radii, and the area of a circle. But as you can clearly see here, there are other ways to solve the problem than the commonly accepted model presented by physics.

simply eloquent sm0ky2.
classrooms tend to make it harder than it really is or should be.

as an aside, i personally think laurence kim peek is the most fascinating person (that i am aware of) in all of history. for those of you who don't know who kim is, he is 'rainman', the real mccoy. the world lost a great man last year...
1/5 blocked by stanford university... boo, hiss
2/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJjAbs-3kc8
3/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Auufbu_ZdDI
4/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRPxMDj33S4
5/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1aA5osvYgY
the corpus callosum, or lack thereof, is an amazing thing.

people, all people, have a need to share a bit of themselves with others.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #212 on: August 31, 2010, 02:30:13 PM »
Hi Rosemary,

Hi again twinbeard.  I think classicists consider that the electron is a fundamental particle or what they call a lepton.  But I agree with you.  I also think the electron is a composite of something much smaller. 


Indeed.  It seems as though the classicists suffer not from incorrect logic, but incomplete data collected by their senses and extensions thereto.  A parallel would be our observations of distant stars, and recently, distant planets.  Extrapolate the awareness of the actual structure of these distant solar systems from our view thereof a few thousand years ago, vs our view today... we are no longer looking at "twinkling diamonds in the sky."

If, on a quantum scale, the universe follows the fractal iteration patterns we find evident in just about everything else, then the electron MUST be composed of smaller particles, or depending on your perspective on the matter(pun intended), higher frequency waves heterodyned into frequencies an octave higher than gamma rays.  While observing scope traces of my high frequency alternator, I notice the wave representing the frequency of alternation seems to be amplitude modulated by another wave an order of magnitude lower in frequency.  Only when tuned to resonance does the heterodyned wave showing frequency of alternation reach full amplitude, without modulation.  I recorded this effect... it is shown at about 3:35 into the following video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIZDu7HFmJI  Again, I will use the analogy of the distant solar system.  With our current capabilities, those solar systems appear as atomic structures are represented.  A higher resolution view, however, would visibly show the planets composed of particles like our own, which are in turn composed of smaller particles, and so on.  Since we have a local instance of the remote system structure for reference, we easily make the logical connection that remote planets are like our own planets in basic structure.  We do not, however, have any locally scaled instance of those subatomic particles, so in that regard, we are still looking at "twinkling diamonds" on the quantum scale.


I'm into symmetries and when one uses just two charges - n/s or add neutral - 3 potential charge conditions then one actually is working with something that's closer to a binary system.  Binary systems are good.  We all know how effectively it's used in computer software technologies.  But for me it's essential - because I've had an entire dearth of schooling in math. 

Now I find that very interesting from the inventor of the device that breaks classical symmetry by using an open loop system not accounted for by academia's symmetrical regauging of Maxwell and Faraday's original work on EM! :) !

Yes, binary systems are very easy to work with in computing (I make my living in the field), but I think for different reasons.  High/low, on/off, 0/1 duality is much easier to manage in a semiconductor environment than a sliding voltage scale.  Can you imagine if we tried to make a microprocessor with a few billion rheostats?  :)

I as well have studied quite a bit of mathematics, being most enamored with the work of Mandlebrot, et. al. concerning fractal iterations and iterative systems.  I feel that our understanding of things like weather systems will take a massive leap forward when we start to apply this critical mathematics to the models, instead of using traditional linear algebras and euclidean geometries to describe phenomenon which are obviously much more complex.

So.  It's my 'fall back'.  But what it does is sharpen the focus on those symmetries and I find it entirely engrossing.  Definitely finding all sorts of strange configurations in the toroidal magnetic field that's needed to keep the proposed velocity of the fields.  I think it needs a kind of repulsion and attraction - also and always assuming that the field comprises any kind of fundamental particle at all.  Way too many suppositions for a really earnest thesis.  But it's the best I can do.

Of course, we are all kind of prodding and guessing our way through... it is that now we have the opportunity to prod and guess together, regardless of physical location or nationality, in real time, that holds the most promise in finding the real truth, quantifying it into equations, and using that truth for our betterment!

BTW I've also seen an photographic illustration of an electron - in Paul Dyson's book 'Conceptual Physics'.  It looks something like this * * * * *

It's the 'gaps' between that intrigue me.  It seems to drift in and out of our dimensions.  Now you see me - now you don't.  Effectively there's a momentary decay.  The hell of it is that it is still considered to be a stable particle - into INFINITY.  It's very curious.

Almost like a phase modulation?

Cheers,
Twinbeard
« Last Edit: August 31, 2010, 03:24:27 PM by twinbeard »

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
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Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #213 on: August 31, 2010, 03:57:54 PM »
Guys - Wilby and Sm0ky - that was salutory  - and many thanks.  I would be proud to emulate you both.  I shall give it my best shot.

A lesson well learned.  And Cletus - I'm old and addled and excessively dim witted.  Bear with me.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #214 on: August 31, 2010, 04:19:16 PM »
Hello again Twinbeard.  What a thoughtful post.  I'm really blown away by the talent on this forum.  Delighted to learn that there's more than one mathematician on board.

I assure you I've invented NOTHING.  I use a simple switching circuit to try and prove a concept related to electric current flow.  But there are FAR more effective systems on these forums and - frankly - the only possible advantage to that circuit is that it's measurable.  It seems that energy values in motors are not so easily guaged.  But I know virtually nothing about motors.  Just a general impression.

Yes I think the answer is in fractals.  I'm actually working with someone who's got the required software.  But our early efforts are simply to show the shapes in my rather eccentric thesis. 

In any event - I'm not sure that we're still on topic.  It's just that there are certain hints at 'gravity' type interactions in Dave's rig that captivate me.  And hopefully, as you say, we'll find the solution on these forums.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

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Offline cletushowell

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #215 on: August 31, 2010, 04:54:19 PM »
If I Gave You all the answers what could you
do?
If I give you some they still have intentions
I didnt calculate like a light bulb made for
light but it also killed many people
burns down house blinds people in road
lazers fix vision and cut oil rigs
wheres the line between deciding
whats good and what evil
even marco does not release things
so when my nerve conduction is complete
you know what that does more people dive into swiming
pools two feet deep and fill our hospitals
expecting to be healed thing dont work like you wish
sparky your square and circle is not complete
its not wrong but its not finished well it is finished
its all how you perceive it I guess
but you in the middle to far forward two far back
if the circle and square started to grow
again what would they become?
How do you enter power to the circle
with out breaking the loop?
I shouldnt do this too you but im sorry I dont know who you are
take the pyramid the myans cut the cap
why theres 5 cursed days these are the five points of the
square the four open top and the 1 goes into the next
pyramid and the next pyramid goes into the first
take three fingers from each hand and a thumb
put them together but put them together one hand inside the other
you see symetry now cut the body in half
theres two sides but there still one
but now you can input power to the left side
and have it come out the right
now take your four corners of earth
male and female 4 sides of the body
but where does the pyramid intersect to transfer power
the  if you had neverending  
your body would feel so good because it would be perfect
symitry axis of infinity
well enough the comedy rose your probly smarter then me
type better then me and explain better then me
lets put it this way when God built the earth he needed a rest
why did he need to rest?
Maybee even the stuff he built was a challange for him
and mines a challange for me
i was very upset last night
probly need a peer reveiw like marco
a team to decide what gets released and what doesnt
You know I made a light bulb sing
like a speaker i got my cap buzzing
now wireless now it sparks good like a plasma
but really strugling on getting the power to
come out the light bulb rather then thru it
maybey why tesla used edision bulbs does anyone know if morays
were hallogen or incandecent what type bulbs did he use?
I sent 10,000 volts to the amp probe across the table thru air
dont ask me how that works not shure
well today is day lord hath made mabee ill find sonething cool
to share like how to light a incandesent wireless
maybee daves device can polorise the glass
on the top to pull the energy from the fillament
like the fillament is the electromagnet and the
glass is magnetised to create the ion flow im pretty shure thats my problem
oh it must be the phospur i probly need clear bulbs
i start there   

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #216 on: August 31, 2010, 05:06:19 PM »
Part my message was cut out this
computer Goverment glitch
i guess so well change seexx
to intercourse if you had
intercourse forevever you would Be like a God
perfect unity of the four corners of earth
and no offense women but we were better before God split that rib
the 25 rib conducts the body flow across the rib cage
making 3 in 1

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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #217 on: August 31, 2010, 06:40:30 PM »
@ Cletus

the squared circle is just a visual representation of the matrix. the second example, i show how to derrive the fraction 1/3.
but this can be used to derrive ANY fraction.
any proportion, without the use of numbers.
the more complex the path you take across the matrix, the more steps in the squared circle to complete that fraction. the "complete" image would be an infinite number of squared circles and circled squares, on top of a triangulation pattern of infinitely decreasing size.
i can barely fathom its complexity, and can only draw them one fraction at a time.

if you put them all together, you cant even see what it is.,
just a grid. lines going in every concievable direction.
like the aether.
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@ Rose

the electron / proton / neutron are made up of ~130-222 smaller magnetic components, the cummulative magnetic field determines what kind of "particle" it is, and the "charge" it emits.

take a magnet and smash it (gently) with a hammer.
crush it into tiny pieces, but try not to strike it too hard or you'll kick the magnetism out of the material..

once you get 1000 or so tiny magnetic fragements.

pich off a few piles and watch how they orient themselves

each one is vastly different.,  as is the magnetic field it puts off. this is similar, but also very different.
It's is as close as i can take you, without having actual "monopoles" to play with.

But this is the physical make-up of each of the particles, sub-particles, and sub-sub-particles.
Each one being the same, but made up of a different number / polarity/ intensity of magnetic components.

there's no physical difference between the particles, only their "charge" or "net magnetic field"
when the two are exactly opposite one another, you have each other's "anti-particle". colliding the two will anihilate both into pure energy.

There are grouping-patterns that arrise more often than others, due to the specific conditions in our portion of the universe. the three "atomic" particles are some of these "common" patterns.

heres another not-so-picaso, i draw them "round", they're not really round, its just the field thats round.. if that makes any sense,

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #218 on: August 31, 2010, 06:51:50 PM »
Quote
from Cletus
sent 10,000 volts to the amp probe across the table thru air
dont ask me how that works not shure

Ed showed us how this works.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #219 on: August 31, 2010, 08:06:20 PM »
hi everyone!....i have a couple of questions....cletus, do you think we are headed in the right direction with these devices?....and jesus, did you get your device in the mail yet?....cletus, please keep posting on this thread, i value your intelligence....i have only a little, but what i do have is persistent curiosity....cletus, i am in the dark, you have the means to illuminate so that i dont have to grope around in the darkness, although maybe sometimes it is necessary....i mean if i were shown it all at once, would i be able to comprehend it?....or do i feel my way in the dark, little by little, a spark here, a glimmer there, to put all the pieces together?.....anyway, jesus, let me know when the mail comes!......david

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #220 on: August 31, 2010, 09:58:29 PM »
Thank you @lambright!

The device arrived today and it is under test.

Jesus

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #221 on: August 31, 2010, 10:11:22 PM »
jesus...the secret ingredient is black iron oxide, Fe3O4, from alpha chemicals.com.....david

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« Reply #222 on: August 31, 2010, 10:23:28 PM »
jesus...the secret ingredient is black iron oxide, Fe3O4, from alpha chemicals.com.....david

Thank you @lambright

That is why it is magnetic then.

My question is: It is the metal tube aluminum?

Jesus

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #223 on: August 31, 2010, 11:09:23 PM »
jesus, yes it is aluminum, but i believe that it is the oxide that is radiating....my ferrofluid core device works very well...my next device will be a Leedskalnin shaped device, using the oxide as the core material, mounted over an iron block similar to Eds device......david....added;...the effect i describe is very subtle, but once you see it, it is unmistakable....like if you dipped the ring into bubble solution.....the film that remains.....if you turn the ring slowly...my friend joel was viewing the device against  a window with mini blinds which seemed to work well....david
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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #224 on: September 01, 2010, 12:31:38 AM »
@ cletus
i still cant send PM's for some reason.. i hope stephan gets back soon so he can fix that....

you can email me if you need to:  Sm0ky2@aol.com

i dont think im able to quite grasp what you are saying..
is this close? or did i take that in completely the wrong way?

 

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