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Offline ramset

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #105 on: August 28, 2010, 02:59:38 PM »
Loner,
Good to see you having fun in the sun!
{sunshine might help results?}

@Dave
Can you post the link to the info Rose refered to at Energetic forum?
Jetis Info?
Thanks,
Chet

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #106 on: August 28, 2010, 04:03:26 PM »
     The often discussed radio frequency identification tag is an overunity device.  The passive radio transmitter uses ambient radio waves to "collect" energy.  The transmitted frequency is received by the passive collector.  It then uses this collected energy to transmit a signal at a different frequency to a receiver in the system that decodes information stored in the chip.  This technology is the descendent of Russian spyware.  The device originally collected sound energy.  The small transmitter powered by microwaves and converting sound waves to rf amplitude modulation.  The rf is then filtered out or waisted in the receiver leaving the low frequency signal in tact.  The Russians were using wireless energy transfer way back in the 60's.  Now imagine the same sceanario but we call it solar collectors.  The absurd thing about the solar technology is the scource is so arbitrary.  Whereas molecular induced radio signals are all over the place.  em radiation is not energy it is an energy carrier.  Anything in motion tends to stay in motion including the electron.  When it slows down it emits a photon.  The photon is like an inertia particle.  So when an inertia particle is absorbed by an electron its mass is increased.  This increase in mass disallows it from residing in the orbital shell of the atom it is bound to,  The electron skips off the neuclear gravitational field instead of continually falling towards the neucleus and then converting this change in absolute inertia into an "energetic" return to the orbital shell.  It is like a spacecraft taking the heat generated on rentry and converting it into thrust to return it back into orbit.  If the spacecraft suddenly gets an increase in mass the rentry becomes a launch;  The electron orbital is continually morphing at tremendously high frequency.  When the orbital morphs to the point that it is expanded beyond the gravitational field of the neucleus then we have a free electron to play with.  The free electron is no longer influenced by the gravity of the neucleus but is free to receive inertia particles or gravity force from other mass transmitters.  This assignment ot charge this whole electrical force deal is bullshit.  There is no positive charge or negative charge or charge carriers or any of that krap.  There is no need to unify the forces if you dont seperate them in the first place!  Why would two objects with mass suddenly form this mysterious thing called charge that would make them forget about acceleration due to gravity and just be repelled from each other.  Two electrons without an external force will be attracted to each other.  .  Then we finally get the admission from scientists that electrons in a plasma form of matter loose their charge.  Where did it go.  I hope it went back in time and took out the warmonger elitist who theorized that there were two forms of electricity moving through a conductor.  Fucking idiot with the kite and the string in a lightning storm.  That evil asshole couldnt figure out anything beyond smooshing around paris getting fat while people froze to death in a revolution instigated by business men who were tired of paying taxes to a commonwealth.  He half listens to the scientific rumors running around Paris about Voltaires work supposedly flys the kite (which I seriously doubt because he wouldnt put his personal ass in that kind of danger duplicating an experiment that had already been done in his favorite vactionland France) and the stupid sheeple call him the father of electricity.  He is the father of confusion that has hampered scientific advancement for 100s of years.  I do not know where this notion of charge originally came from but it did do a good thing.  Einstein trying to unify the forces got a clear picture of an uncharged Universe.  His theory of general relativity didnt unify the gravitational and electrical forces it just prooved there was no electrical force.  TBrown and Tesla both knew it as did Crookes and Faraday.  Tesla increased and decreased the mass of his antennaes.  This increased and decreased the gravitational field propogated by mass.    He harnessed the clockworks of nature.  Clockworks hmmmm.   When you have a cuckoo clock every few days you have to lift the weights which then makes the clock work.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #107 on: August 28, 2010, 04:58:18 PM »
@ sparks

i think Dave's device may be causing an effect similar to the RF ID tags, and certain satellite chips.

but instead of amplifying an external signal, its amplifying the signal of the atoms and producing an exterior effect.

the polarization of the electron orbits, causes their tiny fields to radiate in unison, and be emmitted as one strong combined field.

this is very similar to the action of a radioactive element.

there is a "magnetic current critical mass" at
approx. 2085 Kg, that will vary greatly using compounds of less than 96% iron content.

thats humungous for anyone that doesnt understand.
like a PMH the size of a pick-up truck.
and there is likely to be stages inbetween small and large, where "other effects" may begin to produce themselves.

at the levels we are working at, there is no change in temperature, very minimal interaction with other fields.

but as the strength of the field increases exponentially with its distance from the material, so does the fields affect on the area surrounding it.

This radiation is mass dependent, not charge-dependent.
the electrical impulse only needs to be strong enough to overcome the materials resistance to being magnetized.
Which, i havent been able to accomplish this yet - but we should be able to start the current flowing using magnets, instead of an electrical coil. (how? not sure...)
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If you look at dave's videos where he magnetizes pieces of material that are generally considered "non-magnetic"

the magnetic current flowing through it, causes the material to resonate at the frequency/orientation of the radiation.
This in effect, makes them "magnetic"

i believe this is only temporary, as the electrons in the material will eventually reallign themselves along their original vectoral path. That is of course, assuming that there was no permanent change in the magnetic domains of the nucleus.
Which is entirely possible, but would again depend on the mass of the device, and the mass of the material being  "magnetically converted".

im interested in what will occur as we increase the size of this

but i caution building anything larger than the chair you're sitting in, at least for the time being....







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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #107 on: August 28, 2010, 04:58:18 PM »
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Offline cletushowell

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #108 on: August 28, 2010, 04:59:33 PM »
Ya dont mind me rose
sorrry a little drunk after my electrical overlimit joe type cell
im not doing rocks i started a 1.7 mile black hole doing
that project spun for two week vortex
the subcountious
it was all in the leeter i typed goverment erase
basicsly thats why its moved to a hill
the radiation onece funneling eventulay
cause a volcano
I spen two days trying to lift rocks and about two weeks trying
to figure out how to reverse the black
hole then I decided it was a kinda dumb
projecf to charge the rocks unless your harnessing the power
theres no use but to build a solomon
pyramid but i did the solomon fomula
sent it to the great pyramid video and
then realized these tidal waves and shit are from haarp so
instid of charging the rock im just releasing the already charged rock
so when they play ther haarp
it just recharges the fault lines
no I dint hurt no one mine is controlled
but im am frustrated on that 12 seizmograph
quake I did notice i got mount saint hellens moving
its suppost to move two miles
the only cool thing i did was charge grangcanyon
so aremegeddon should land directly
between the ocean and river like a magnet
marina islands is deepest part of the sea
put grand canyon right in middle
has after the rock is soaked its no longer
radiant or polorised the amount of water changes the gravity
basicly making it heaveir on one side
you have to understand
--++
++++ the top is polarity right thru middle
but also thru the side gravity is not one
direction its not just down its sideways
the reason it still takes the hot air ballon
proposion to go sideways you can call
it drag but gravity is drag.
The most important thing your doing and is really cool
is controll polorising things not typicaly considered
magnetic
the reason is your taking the neucleus
and lining up the six stars of the attom
there five pointed stars that make star of david
watch the key of david videos
when you line these up
you are creating the polarity
of the atomic structructure thing you dont
think are charging have two much water
give them more time the water will
evaporate if you lose the charge mist it
it pulls the water to middle emidiatly
how i radiated my elebow throwing fire
basicaly i did like the whole experiment on
myself stuck one hand in water and other by tv
turned it on and of watched the sparks fly
but instid of polorising my
arm my elbow was bent it some how sucked
all the water like steriod and blew it up like ballon
painfull as hell you know why it blew up like a ballon
--++
++++ its expansion on the top
hot air ballon the coral castle videos
you see my post as i did everything
anyways Im here to help you try not to
make my mistakes I was using a antenna
do my radiation was probly way higher
and combine with the black hole mess probly
effecting all my testing as well you need
like that flywheel to charge the first circle
below the rock sorry i forgot the math i did it on
the ed riddle and corral castle video
its telepathic when you get it to lift
I know that Doing that was how I proved E=mc2
wrong but that was a late night basicaly
his metal room is the control
room  well here ill link you to a few things
 Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2DrR3AYY8Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
this is what your doing but way less power
circling energy polorising
understand the earth as its energy
increases gravity increases
your house you might not be able to over power
the ground thats why hes on a hill
the black hole spins opoosite on a hill
vs flat land
this is what your doing in frequency
of radiation but puting the energy thru
the bottom of the rock think of the bottom of this cup as ice
evaporating and condensing all the time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky2h1L__i_o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
this is a attemp to explain how you need all the laws
of gravity to do this not just the apple falling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrAF3jh2LOY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

i think this is the video explaining the stars i did a bunch
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q38dmoKGAEQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

this should help you understand his
book I dont have his book and never read it but i do know
what he did theres extra parts in the magnetic
drawing i saw online





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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #109 on: August 28, 2010, 05:42:07 PM »
Oh when you carve the
rock better wear safety glasses
the radiation burns your eye
if you do burn your eye dont worry its not ruined
just do like jesus did to blind man
remove the energy backwards I used a black
Bible it absorbed the radiation
reverse took about a hour though
jesus used mud the same way your storing energy in
the rock he polorised the blind mans eyes
but took twice first time he saw man as trees
thats probly a code he probly didnt see any men
but energy the cross

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #110 on: August 28, 2010, 06:04:49 PM »
Wow spark that was a lot did I upset you
I already stated theres no negative energy
in fact the neucleus is not neutral either
2.1 is exact middle + two energies
- one energy negative is called one
but there is no negative I tried to explain
this the neuclues is the frequency
so what did eienstien split please tell
me a frequency hutchesion splits frequency
all day and even puts papaer through it
eistien split the hull of the ship put people in it alive
splitting a attom is a myth the nueclear bomb
is a myth its a way to get money and scare the shit out
people every country has caught on
theres no nukes every country thinks
theres nukes and scared to death some one
is going to build one they cant its impossible
to split the atom if you split 2 energies it becomes
1 if you split 1 it becomes 2
so ya they probly got really charged plutonium
radiated rods that have enough energy
to burn and melt but first day im on the Job
no fucking scientist is getting a penny for there hydrogen
bombs they call nukes if you split a atom
then you have particles smaller then the attom and a whole different
structure that cannot conform to the key so im telling you they didnt
split shit if they did prove it to me a gas tank blows up
that dont prove you split a atom

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #111 on: August 28, 2010, 06:19:31 PM »
Beings your cussing ben your actualy right but
you have to think totaly backwards
the kite and key is not harnesing energy
is giving it to the water in air
its essentialy radiating earth but radiation
is realy removing energy which is why you sun
burn then blister first the radiation
burns your skin then the burnt skin attracts water
the kite and key was not taking energy
from the sky to the earth it was taking
energy from earth to the sky
haarp is the same its just wrong
there antennss are way to low
the energy comes from earth
to the capacitors then the capscitors
when i reversed the frequency of earth
on aug 14 bascicaly cut the connection of the grounding
rod by essential being no ground sending or discharging
all the caps to the space in reverse pretty complicated
essentialy that crosed the atmosphere because there was not enough
water to absorb it and sent it to the sun
which caused the solar flares and shut down soho
or however that thing is and haarp on
same days

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #112 on: August 28, 2010, 06:37:33 PM »
I dont understand daves device or maybee I do
better then anyone the answer is the reverse
of the hutchesion crystal instid of injecting frequency
to lift the ice cream you polorise the ice cream
from the middle its reverse so your not pushing
it your pulling it but when you pull it just right
the polarity becomes the plasma feild
now if your inside that feild or on top of it
then its telepaticaly controlled
whe because you eliminated the
hutchesion crystal the external power source
so sending the frequency and
created the ice cream polarity to
receive and send its own
im not on the team im young and you guys are ahead of me
but I have the answers how you build it
determines what it does

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #113 on: August 28, 2010, 06:59:31 PM »
Clet pls create your own topic,  and if you reversed the earths polarity on AUG 14th  then the magnetic containment fields across the earth would have been disturbed even disrupted.  So I doubt you did this, Chicago is still here.  The anti matter created and stored there is still there.  You need to see a doctor or get a vacation.  Please create your own topic...... stop leeching attention off this one.    If we are interested in your discussion we will comment and view it.

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #114 on: August 28, 2010, 07:22:34 PM »
Update on our efforts to date,  the pipe pieces all cut and slit.  To widen the slit to 19 mm we drove a wood splitting maul into the slit forcing it open.   This method bent the pipe unevenly.  The sides touch but not as they could if they were uniform.    The ring hasn't "locked" even with repeated attempts.   But one interesting effect has been to repell my friend who worked hard on this device  (not good).  The pipe we used is VERY hard and maybe the problem.    At one point I did have a effect on a swinging magnet, it settled down from a swing to a spin which took along time to stop.  I wonder if anyone has wound the copper coil around the diameter of the ring and energized it "locked"   will it interact with another ring then?  Many times the thought of 90 degree angles of chain links must be a key to stacking magnetic charges. Does anyone get this feeling also?   Ed Leeds.. was very thrifty, if chain was able to do it...  well he had plenty of it.  Does anyone have 2 PMH idenitical made to try a 90 degree experiment with?

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #115 on: August 28, 2010, 08:32:42 PM »
hi....to clairify....jetijs over at EF was able to make soda can thickness aluminum stick to a magnet....and when heated to nearly its melting point, it still maintained its ability to be picked up by a magnet...also when playing with the quartz geode, i "felt" some cooler and warmer areas above the rock...2 inches or so...when i first was experimenting with a PMH, i noticed a cool sensation around the ring....just some info....david

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #116 on: August 28, 2010, 08:40:49 PM »
david
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hi....to clairify....jetijs over at EF was able to make soda can thickness aluminum stick to a magnet....and when heated to nearly its melting point, it still maintained its ability to be picked up by a magnet...
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Can you post a link?
Thanks
Chet

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #117 on: August 28, 2010, 08:42:42 PM »
Hi all, I finally managed to get one picture up.  Many more to come.  But I'm struggling through these upload systems.  Just bear with me if it's a bit disjointed. 

We're in the process of building this.  So far we've got the widest 'outer cup made.  I've taken it home to test and here's the thing.  We arranged the magnets north/south/south/north - around the rim of the cup.  I was experimenting with the fields and will try and do a video on this tomorrow.  The facts are that pencils, string, EVERYTHING responds as if it's entirely magnetic.  Its EXTRAORDINARY.  I got hints of this in a previous rig.  This one was intended to test the opposing fields to see if this could be the actual config of Dave's magnetic fields.  I now think that it might be because when the magnets were aligned north/south/north - there was no evidence of the same effect.

It's an ENTIRE variation to Dave's set up but it's precisely the same principle.  I'm sure Sm0ky you may see this.  There's a hidden 'repelling field' in Dave's rig which I picked up on in a defined analysis of the field.  I'll try and find that exercise. 

We also built the middle cup - but the rim to hold the magnets cracked and broke.  I think there was a flaw in the material as it chipped earlier. 

Very intriguing.  You'll see what I mean when I do the video.  It's wierd.  I saw it before but never so marked.

Regards,
Rosemary

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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #118 on: August 28, 2010, 08:46:54 PM »
Hello all. I will now post pictures of my setups.
It is a shame that I can't post pictures as is but just links. Anyhow, here you are:

This is the very first one:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/587-liedskalins_004.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/590-liedskalins_008.jpg


This is my second rig:

http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/598-liedskalnins_006.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/155-liedskalnins-002-1_old.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/157-liedskalnins-003-2.jpg

This is the big one:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/151-liedskalnins-001-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/594-liedskalnins_003.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/593-liedskalnins_002.jpg

Here are some PMH's:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/156-liedskalnins-003-1.jpg

The third one made from metal tube David sent me:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1229-leedskalnin-008.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1230-leedskalnin-009.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1231-leedskalnin-003.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1233-leedskalnin-003-1.jpg

Another variation of the third one:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1239-leedskalnin-003-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1240-leedskalnin-004.jpg

Very big PMH
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1244-leedskalnin-006.jpg

Another variation:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1246-leedskalnin-010.jpg

First laser cut wheel:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1252-liedskalnins-004.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1253-leedskalnin-001-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1254-leedskalnin-004-1.jpg

Three laser cut wheels:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1255-Liedskalnins-004-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-content/thumbs/jeti-stuff/viskas/large/1256-liedskalnins-008.jpg

Hope this helps


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Re: a new kind of visible radiant energy?
« Reply #119 on: August 28, 2010, 09:07:40 PM »
his is the very first one:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalins_004.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalins_008.jpg


This is my second rig:

http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...alnins_006.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...-002-1_old.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...nins-003-2.jpg

This is the big one:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...nins-001-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...alnins_003.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...alnins_002.jpg

Here are some PMH's:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...nins-003-1.jpg

The third one made from metal tube David sent me:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalnin-008.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalnin-009.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalnin-003.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...lnin-003-1.jpg

Another variation of the third one:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...lnin-003-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalnin-004.jpg

Very big PMH
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalnin-006.jpg

Another variation:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...kalnin-010.jpg

First laser cut wheel:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...alnins-004.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...lnin-001-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...lnin-004-1.jpg

Three laser cut wheels:
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...nins-004-1.jpg
http://www.emuprim.lv/jetijs/plog-co...alnins-008.jpg

Hope this helps


Ans this is the link to the whole gallery where these pictures are among others in a random fashion.
Jeti stuff: Jeti stuff » Viskas

 

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