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Offline telemachus

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The Aether and Time Dilation/Time Change
« on: August 11, 2010, 08:05:33 AM »
Has anyone noticed time dilation or time changes while working on experiments that interact with the aether?

I've noticed that researchers such as Jean Naudin
(e.g. see Time Energy project at http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tepprinc.htm)  and Tom Bearden have shown that scalar waves can interact with the rate of time change or time flow.   
And Anything that's affecting the rate of time change is, by extension, interacting with the aether.

Perhaps these experiments could engineer time and even change the rate of time in surrounding locales.

I'd be interested hear from people who've used circuits that can tap the aether and change the rate of time flow.  Look forward to hearing back from you.

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Offline e2matrix

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Re: The Aether and Time Dilation/Time Change
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2010, 05:09:21 PM »
I read many years ago about a Ham radio operator experimenting with a caduceus coil who had noticed such effects.  I believe he had a watch in the area that was also effected. 

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Re: The Aether and Time Dilation/Time Change
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2010, 03:10:20 AM »
Time is not a tangible entity. thime cannot be "dillated" or "changed".

What is changed, is the cyclic rate of certain processes within the affected area/mass.

for instance, the atomic frequency of atoms, mechanical oscillations from things like a stop-watch.
even the cellular processes in living tissue.

Time itself, remains constant. It cannot be traversed, forward or backward.

These changes in "time", can be viewed as an obscure form of "time-travel", because from our perspective, these processes take place more slowly in the affected area/mass, and therefore it can be interpreted as a leap forward in "time".

similarly, these processes can be sped up, and "time"from the perspective of an unaffected area/mass will appear to move faster.

This is not actual "time-travel", in the commonly interpreted sense, but more of a manipulation of the events that take place over a given ammount of "time".

Time remains constant.


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Re: The Aether and Time Dilation/Time Change
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2010, 04:51:22 AM »
Maybe you haven't heard of Dr. David Lewis Anderson Physicist.  His web site: http://www.andersoninstitute.com/  "As a student graduating with honors from West Virginia University, California State University, the Joint-Services Military College and the University of Minnesota he was employed at a young age by the United States Air Force conducting advanced research and development at the prestigious Air Force Flight Test Center at Edwards Air Force Base in the Mojave Desert. He later founded an organization call the TTRC, an advanced time-technology research laboratory located on Long Island, New York in the United States of America.
During that time he proposed several new detail on theories for reversing time at sub-light speeds and laid the foundations for what would later become known as time-warped field theory, an approach that modeled and described how to use the natural forces of inertial frame dragging for power generation and to create contained and controllable fields of closed time-like curves.
Anderson provided one of the first comprehensive overviews of the historical views of time, time control and time travel in the documentary "Time Travel - Journeys into Time." His ideas were later applied for the development of high performance time reactor systems for energy production and time technology research at what is known today as the Anderson Institute."

Seems at least this guy would disagree with that assessment of time.  He says a number of governments already have the technology to move through time and that this is of great concern.  He says it needs to be regulated (for obvious reasons).

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Re: The Aether and Time Dilation/Time Change
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2010, 07:52:41 AM »
Thanks e2matrix. 

Do you have a link or info on the ham operator with the caduceous coil who noticed time changes??

Sounds fascinating. Yes, I have heard of Dr. Anderson's work. It is certainly interesting but I am not sure how credible the Anderson Institute because there is no proof of the time warp field.

Also, you should try a google search for "vadim chernobrov time machine." vadim chernobrov is a Russian scientist who claims to have built a time machine using electronic devices inside (perhaps scalar waves?). Some info at  http://www.faraday.ru/content03.html

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Re: The Aether and Time Dilation/Time Change
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2010, 09:28:43 AM »
that guy has some interesting theories,
but the truth of the matter is,
science doesn't know what "time" is.

even the best time keepers in the world admitedly don't understand the nature of "time", and propose their work at theory.
the same people he misquotes, misinterprets, and makes fun of on his website. Wonder how many books he sold this year?

Allow me to pose this question:

You have two kittens. each in a box.
one box is set in an aetheric distortion, such that its "time"
moves more slowly than the box outside the field.

10 years from now we observe the kitten in the field, and compare it with the kitten outside the field.

well our kitten has aged 10years, just as we have.
the kitten in the field looks like it would have 10 years ago.

a) by observing the kitten in the box, we went back in time 10 yrs.

b)the kitten from 10 yrs ago move forward in time, to the time when we observed it.

c) neither. the "time" of the kitten in the field is just moving slower.

Think about the time dilation experiments
the FTL experiments performed by IBM 10yrs or so ago

There's a reason Einstein's theories are called just that, instead of "Einstein's 1st and 2nd Law of Relativity".


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Re: The Aether and Time Dilation/Time Change
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2010, 08:58:35 PM »
If you consider a universe of 3 dimensions. verticle, horizontal, and depth.

there is a static 'space'. an area of 3 dimensions that encompases the place where you are. this is like the "background" of the universe. the aether permeates this space. like a grid of infinite parallel lines throughout each of the 3 planes. these lines extend infinitely across the universe. an aetheric distortion here on earth, while it may be extremely minute, has an affect on something on the other side of the the universe, and often times along the line between.

the points where the lines intersect, are bound by massive ammounts of energy. when a distortion occurs, these points twist and bend with the grid-lines, and once they reach their threshold, they shatter into infantesimally small + and - charges, that group together to create what we percieve as physical matter.

by there very nature, they are equal and opposite. and when groups of this energy collide, with similar charge-values, they dissentegrate back into the eather.

sometimes when their charges-values differ great enough, they simply bond together, forming larger and larger clumps. and this is how physical matter is formed.

even these larger clumps, can collide in opposite charge-values, and destroy one another. and it is on this larger scale that we can actually observe this occuring. there are several "anti-matter" theories that are drawn from such observations.

When "physical matter" exists within the eather, it in-and-of itself creates an aetheric distortion. Every piece of matter emits a cummulative + or - charge, wether it be the smallest sub-miscropic dust, to the largest of the galaxies.
It is this distortion in the eather, that creates the physical realm we live in.

Tampering with that distortion, interferes with those same 3-dimensions we use to measure our world, as well as the 4th dimension we percieve as "time".

Tampering with these dimensions can have very strange effects.
when it comes to the 3 physical dimensions, we exist in a particular area of distortion, or Phase. The dimension that light exists in, can be similarly effected, causing objects to not be seen, or even to still be seen even while "out of phase" with the physical dimensions.

an area or mass that is caused to exist in a different distortional-configuration, can exist "out of phase" with our reality. While it is physically there, the area of space we exist in, cannot physically intact with the affected area or mass. It is theorized that there are possibly an infinite number of "phases" that can exist in the same space. Though many of these phases do not have physical dimensions.

This sort of distortion occured with two U.S. battlehips using a system Tesla invented.
With a man who walked right through the berlin wall.

there have been 'cloaking' experiments done using aluminum-titanium-silicate compounds, whos crystals resonate at specific frequencies. these are thought to create a distortion that defracts or diffuses 100% of the light that contacts it, but allows the light signal to emerge/converge on the other side of the distortion, without being altered.
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When it comes to TIME.
altering the dimension of time, much like the physical dimensions,
doesnt simply slow or speed up the rate that things are happening.
it actually alters the ratio of the passage of time.

This "ratio", defines what time is to us.
Much like the ratio between distance and the notches on our measuring stick. This ratio defines the "inch" or the "meter".
If an object were measured in a different phase, this ratio would be completely different. how we percieve length, width, height, would be completely meaning-less to us, being in a different eatheric phase.

Time to is defined by such a ratio. This is how we determine what a "second" is. It is the distance between the notches on our "time measuring stick", vs the passage of "time", or steps in a given sequence of events.
By causing a distortion in the "time" dimension, we alter the ratio by which we measure "time". a second is no longer a second.
it might be 1.00000000000006 seconds.
or it may be 0.999999999999999 seconds.
TO US

but inside the distortion, our concept of "time" is completely different. the ratio inside the distortion is defined by the conditions inside. If we were to go inside the distortion, and attempt to measure time with a measuring stick from our phase, it would have no meaning. Under the simplest of conditions, time would not pass. All time would exist at once, past present and future to the observer inside the distortion.
what just happened, whats happening now, and whats about to happen all happen at the same "time".

In theory, this distortion of the time measurement ratio, can range from no time, to "our time", 
to an infinite ammount of time, where the "future" does not exist, and everything that happens was in the past.

Its not just an einsteinian 'slowing down of electrons around an atom'
its an altering of the rate of every event. every process, every motion, every fluxuation of every kind.
a slowing of the down of the very fibers of the aether, whos every movement causes these events to take place.

The stronger the distortion, the greater the effect it has on the dimension of time. Aetheric distortions can affect some, many, or all of the dimensional phases at once. time, 3-physical, light and other HF events, ect.






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Re: The Aether and Time Dilation/Time Change
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2010, 09:23:42 PM »
traveling "backwards" along some kind of Univeral Time-Line,
may sound nice. i mean we all wish we could go back to some time, and give ourselves information, power, materials
or stop something tragic from happening. Maybe do something to make the world of the past, and thus the time we live in a better place......

those things have already happened. "time" in that sense doesnt exist. the most we could do is alter our perception of time, to simulate a jump to the future. You could step into the bubble, for what seems like 10 minutes to you. and emerge to a world 1,000 yrs later. But you cant go back, because those things have already happened.
"time" isnt a history-line, its just the rate at which things occur.

Call it  "Aetheric Velocity"



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Re: The Aether and Time Dilation/Time Change
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2010, 05:05:53 AM »
I'm not sure of the source of this info but found it stuffed in my own archives:

"Time Can be Turned Back   
03/01/2004 15:37   

Time has been one of the most complicated and less studied scientific issues since ancient times.

Eight years ago, American and British scientists who conducted investigations in Antarctica made a sensational discovery. US physicist Mariann McLein told the researchers noticed some spinning gray fog in the sky over the pole on January 27 which they believed to be just ordinary sandstorm. However, the gray fog did not change the form and did not move in the course of time. The researchers decided to investigate the phenomenon and launched a weather balloon with equipment capable to register the wind speed, the temperature and the air moisture. But the weather balloon soared upwards and immediately disappeared.

In a little while, the researchers brought the weather balloon back to the ground with the help of a rope attached to it before. They were extremely surprised to see that a chronometer set in the weather balloon displayed the date of January 27, 1965, the same day 30 years ago. The experiment was repeated several times after the researchers found out the equipment was in good repair. But each time the watch was back it displayed the past time. The phenomenon was called "the time gate" and was reported to the White House.

Today investigation of the unusual phenomenon is underway. It is supposed that the whirl crater above the South Pole is a tunnel allowing penetration into other times. What is more, programs on launching people to other times have been started. The CIA and the FBI are fighting for gaining control over the project that may change the course of history. It is not clear when the US federal authorities will approve the experiment.

Famous Russian scientist Nikolay Kozyrev conducted an experiment to prove that moving from the future to the past was possible. He substantiated his views with the hypotheses on instant information spreading through physical characteristics of time. Nikolay Kozyrev even supposed that "time could execute the work and produce energy." An American physics theorist has arrived at a conclusion that time is what existed before existence of the world.

It is known that each of us feels a different course of time under different conditions. Once lightning hit a mountain-climber; later the man told he saw the lightning got into his arm, slowly moved along it, separated the skin from the tissues and carbonized his cells. He felt as if there were quills of thousands hedgehogs under his skin.

Russian investigator of anomalous phenomena, philosopher and author of numerous books Gennady Belimov published his article under the headline "Time Machine: First Speed On" in the newspaper On the Verge of Impossible. He described unique experiments conducted by a group of enthusiasts led by Vadim Chernobrov, the man who began creation of time machines, devices with electromagnetic pumping in 1987. Today the group of enthusiasts can slow down or speed up the course of time using special impact of the magnetic field. The biggest slowing down of time made up 1.5 seconds within an hour of the equipment's operation in labs.

In August 2001, a new model of the time machine meant for a human was set in a remote forest in Russia's Volgograd Region. When the machine even operated on car batteries and had low capacity, it still managed to change the time by three per cent; the change was registered with symmetrical crystal oscillators.

At first, the researchers spent five, ten and twenty minutes in the operating machine; the longest stay lasted for half an hour. Vadim Chernobrov said that the people felt as if they moved to a different world; they felt life here and "there" at the same time as if some space was unfolding. "I cannot define the unusual feelings that we experienced at such moments."

Neither TV nor radio companies reported the astonishing fact; Gennady Belimov says the Russian president was not informed of the experiment. However, he tells that already under Stalin there was a Research Institute of the Parallel World. Results of experiments conducted by Academicians Kurchatov and Ioffe can be now found in the archives. In 1952, head of the Soviet secret police organization Lavrenty Beria initiated a case against researchers participating in the experiments, as a result of which 18 professors were executed by shooting and 59 candidates and doctors of physical sciences were sent to camps. The Institute recommenced its activity under Khruschev. But an experimental stand with eight leading researchers disappeared in 1961, and buildings close to the one where experiments were conducted were ruined. After that, the Communist Party political bureau and the Council of Ministers decided to suspend researchers of the Institute for an uncertain period.

The program was resumed in 1987 when the Institute already functioned on the territory of the Soviet Union. A tragedy occurred on August 30, 1989: an extremely strong explosion sounded at the Institute's branch office on the Anjou islands. The explosion destroyed not only the experimental module of 780 tons but also the archipelago itself that covered the area of 2 square kilometers. According to one of the versions of the tragedy, the module with three experimenters collided with a large object, probably an asteroid, in the parallel world or heading toward the parallel world. Having lost its propulsion system, the module probably remained in the parallel world.

The last record made in the framework of the experiment and kept at the Institute archives says: "We are dying but keep on conducting the experiment. It is very dark here; we see all objects become double, our hands and legs are transparent, we can see veins and bones through the skin. The oxygen supply will be enough for 43 hours, the life support system is seriously damaged. Our best regards to the families and friends!" Then the transmission suddenly stopped.

Olga Zharina"

I'm also especially found of this pic of the time displacement unit operating manual brought back from 2034 to the late 90's or early 2000.  But then I don't really know about the John Titor story as it could all be a hoax - just a good one.

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Re: The Aether and Time Dilation/Time Change
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Re: The Aether and Time Dilation/Time Change
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2010, 10:21:56 PM »
This first (poorly drawn) picture, is my attempt at giving a visual representation of the Aether.
the blue lines represent the 'width', the red lines- the 'depth'
and the green lines represent the verticle 'height'
This second image, is a representation of what the aether looks like when a distortion occurs.
our perception of time is affected by this distortion.
notice how the distance between grid-lines becomes shorter in some places, and longer in others. This affects the rate of translation of any motion in that part of space. wether it be the propegation of radiation/light, to physical motion of particles and their elements, to even the macro-motion of mass, planets, galactic bodies.  "time" within the distortion is not the same as "time" would be in the undistorted aether, or in an area of space that is distorted differently.


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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2010, 10:36:11 PM »
now for the non-simplified version:::

The aetheric grid-lines run in every direction, not just the 3 perpendicular vectors, but every point inbetween.
its a very complex grid-matrix. We assume that there is an infinite number of grid-lines in each 'plane'. a Plane is a set of parallel grid-lines that run along a vectoral axis through the 3 dimensional universe. on a simmulated Aetheric Map, each line would be given an X,Y,Z coordinate, and a vectoral direction.
In actuality, there are a finite number of grid lines that permeate a given section of space. However, they are so tiny, that a piece of space the size of a single atom could be intersected hundreds of thousands of times. assuming an infinite number of lines simplifies the problem, and results in a closely estimated model.


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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2010, 10:52:39 PM »
This 'planar' universal model becomes very interesting during times like we are in now, when our entire solar sytem, the systems around other stars, and our Milky Way galaxy as a whole comes into the same Plane.

our entire galaxy may become a sort of 'time machine' with respect to some esoteric "universal time".

relatively speaking: this would become apparent when we next observe a distant galactic body, who's position and relative motion was recorded prior to the galactic-planar event.

which by the way we are already well into at this point in time.
it will culminate over the next two years, then cross over and spread back out.

Our galaxy, if you think of the orbit of each body, circling the center, as a "ring", the galaxy itself is like a telescope, the rings slide inside one another and the whole darn thing flattens out like a pancake. this "plane" itself is rotating with the center-of-mass of the galactic body. the "rings" cross paths, and continue outwards to a maximum, then it flattens out again in the other direction. The next time this occurs, some thousands of yrs from now, it will be in a completely different "plane".

the other thing that occurs in this model, is that objects in space that exist in different planes, can change their planar allignment, without affecting their relative velocity.
allowing for relativistic travel. its an odd scenerio, but the mathematics allow for an object several light years away to cross into a plane closer to a second object, virtually "skipping over" large portions of space, allowing for apparent travel at speeds many times faster than light.


so, in about 2 years, every object on our side of the galaxy will be closer to us than it has been in thousands of years.

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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2010, 01:36:22 AM »
That's really weird, i read this thread before it was started !

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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2010, 05:49:54 AM »
This 'planar' universal model becomes very interesting during times like we are in now, when our entire solar sytem, the systems around other stars, and our Milky Way galaxy as a whole comes into the same Plane.

our entire galaxy may become a sort of 'time machine' with respect to some esoteric "universal time".

relatively speaking: this would become apparent when we next observe a distant galactic body, who's position and relative motion was recorded prior to the galactic-planar event.

which by the way we are already well into at this point in time.
it will culminate over the next two years, then cross over and spread back out.

Our galaxy, if you think of the orbit of each body, circling the center, as a "ring", the galaxy itself is like a telescope, the rings slide inside one another and the whole darn thing flattens out like a pancake. this "plane" itself is rotating with the center-of-mass of the galactic body. the "rings" cross paths, and continue outwards to a maximum, then it flattens out again in the other direction. The next time this occurs, some thousands of yrs from now, it will be in a completely different "plane".

the other thing that occurs in this model, is that objects in space that exist in different planes, can change their planar allignment, without affecting their relative velocity.
allowing for relativistic travel. its an odd scenerio, but the mathematics allow for an object several light years away to cross into a plane closer to a second object, virtually "skipping over" large portions of space, allowing for apparent travel at speeds many times faster than light.


so, in about 2 years, every object on our side of the galaxy will be closer to us than it has been in thousands of years.

That last statement is fascinating.  May I ask the source of your info?  It's sounding a bit like what Gregg Braden talks about but I haven't been keeping up with his info lately.  www.greggbraden.com   One of my favorite author/speakers.

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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2010, 05:38:45 PM »
My understanding of the Galactic Center, is completely opposite of the commonly accepted solution presented by modern science.
It is often viewed as an area of intense mass, whereas i view it as an area of no mass.  But that is just a conceptual problem, which doesnt affect the mathematics.

So, i have drawn this picture to show a black, dense mass at the center of the galaxy. Shown here is the orbit of 2 stellar bodies.

in the first image, their orbital planes are spread out, like they would be after an expansion-maximum, as the orbits are changing planes towards the central "galactic plane".

When the distance is measured between the two stars, some x-thousands of light years apart from one another, it is assumed that it would take them that many thousands of years, traveling at the speed of light to cross the space from one star to the other.

But look at the second image, as the orbital plane of the 'lower' star moves closer to the galactic center.
This distance is much much shorter. The entire orbital plane shifts towards the "Galactic Plane", while the orbital velocity of the star remains constant. Allowing for the stars "move" thousands of light years closer to one another, in a short period of time, at speeds much lower than c

Example:  Tie a string to a rock, and spin around so that the centrifugal force pulls the string taught, and the rock orbits around you at a constant velocity.
start with you hand down by your waist.
Now, slowly raise your arm up to shoulder height.
You are changing the orbital "plane" the rock is riding on.
while the distance and orbital velocity of the rock, relative to your shoulder (the galactic center) remains constant. The rock itself has traversed a much larger space in the same ammount of "time".
This gives for an apparent velocity (to an outside observer) faster than it is actually moving.


 

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