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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #75 on: January 13, 2011, 01:57:19 PM »
It rather depends on where and how you weigh it, doesn't it? For example, if you weigh it IN THE WATER it weighs nothing. But it doesn't matter, you could be running your device in liquid mercury, it still wouldn't work. Why? There are lots of reasons. Here's another one: there is no source of energy in your device, but there are plenty of drains of energy: all the drag and friction. So, you can spin it with external power but when you stop, it stops. Gravity is not an energy source, and as an energy store, it can only give back what you put in, minus losses.

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Re: Patent announcement
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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #76 on: January 13, 2011, 09:36:37 PM »
brian, getting a patent really does not mean much.  There does not have to be utility, they don't have time to check all of the patent applications that come in for that.  All they do is to check if someone has come up with an idea before.  They don't even check to see if it works or what powers it.  The only time they do check is if someone blatantly claims that here device is over unity or perpetual motion.  As long as you hide that claim they won't even bother doing the math to see if it works.  This is a fact that many over unity scam artists know.  They will claim they have a patented over unity device, but if you ever read their patent application it says no such thing about it being one.  If they really believed in their nonsense they would be shouting it from the roof tops, not trying to hide it in some verbage.

Offline brian334

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #77 on: January 13, 2011, 09:51:47 PM »
To get a patent
 on a invention the invention must have what the patent office calls utility. Utility means some value. Or to put it differently a invention
 that does not have any value is not patentable. Therefore the U.S. patent office thinks these gravity powered machines have some value.

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #77 on: January 13, 2011, 09:51:47 PM »
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Offline Subduction Zone

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2011, 09:56:50 PM »
To get a patent
 on a invention the invention must have what the patent office calls utility. Utility means some value. Or to put it differently a invention
 that does not have any value is not patentable. Therefore the U.S. patent office thinks these gravity powered machines have some value.

You already claimed that, that does not make it any more true this time than last time.  Post a link that supports this claim.  This should be easy for you since you seem to be familiar with the patenting procedure.

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2011, 11:40:32 PM »
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Referring to Reply #1 :

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=u93SAAAAEBAJ&dq=patent:7770389&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=0&as_miny_ap=&as_maxm_ap=0&as_maxy_ap=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&num=10



http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat7770389.pdf
(14pp, 489 KB)

Don't think you're all alone.  That error message happens to me as well.    http://www.pat2pdf.org   is a lot more reliable than the GOOGLE Advance Patent Search.

REEDIT:
Hmmmmm, strange.  The first reply #1 was what came up when I clicked on the thread in my Recently Updated Topics list, even though this thread is at least 7 pages long.  Don't know why it did that.  It shouldn't have.  Strange, as I said.

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2011, 11:40:32 PM »
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Offline spinn_MP

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #80 on: January 14, 2011, 11:58:38 AM »
To get a patent
 on a invention the invention must have what the patent office calls utility. Utility means some value. Or to put it differently a invention
 that does not have any value is not patentable. Therefore the U.S. patent office thinks these gravity powered machines have some value.

The first half of your post is true (about utility), the second part is not... Nowadays, they patent anything, as long as you pay them (the authorities) the fee....

There are literally hundreds of thousands of "worthless patents" currently valid ...

So, what's the difference?
Patents are mostly "The Joke of the week" stuff...
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #81 on: January 14, 2011, 01:10:03 PM »
Here's a patent that describes something that actually works:

Method of swinging on a swing
United States Patent 6368227
A method of swing on a swing is disclosed, in which a user positioned on a standard swing suspended by two chains from a substantially horizontal tree branch induces side to side motion by pulling alternately on one chain and then the other.



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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #81 on: January 14, 2011, 01:10:03 PM »
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Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #82 on: January 14, 2011, 08:31:48 PM »
Here's a patent that describes something that actually works:

Method of swinging on a swing
United States Patent 6368227
A method of swing on a swing is disclosed, in which a user positioned on a standard swing suspended by two chains from a substantially horizontal tree branch induces side to side motion by pulling alternately on one chain and then the other.
I saw the patent and the 2 reference patents.  I don't see how this one improved on what someone already had invented.  To get a patent, something usually has to be improved over "prior art", in most cases, right?

Who is going to improve on demonstrably obvious physics?  A "swing" is about as simple as inventions come.   ::)

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Offline brian334

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #83 on: January 14, 2011, 10:38:37 PM »
You can get a patent on a improvement of a invention , or you can get a patent on a new invention. I have a patent on a new invention.

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« Reply #83 on: January 14, 2011, 10:38:37 PM »
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Offline brian334

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #84 on: January 14, 2011, 10:43:30 PM »
Some people that post here can not understand any thing more complicated than a swing.

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #85 on: January 14, 2011, 11:30:19 PM »
Today an invention does not have to be an "improvement".  It only has to be different from preceding patents.  They don't even bother with working models, unless someone claims over unity.  You could combine a radio and a swing set and claim it improves reception.  If the idea is original you can get a patent for it.  It does not matter how stupid it is.  I have not seen the OP's patents yet, but I am willing to bet sight unseen that he made no claims of over unity in its description.

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #85 on: January 14, 2011, 11:30:19 PM »
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Offline brian334

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #86 on: January 15, 2011, 12:00:29 AM »
Can you give us examples of what you are talking about?

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #87 on: January 16, 2011, 03:16:57 AM »
My example was purely hypothetical.  I found your patent, with description, but without illustrations it was impossible to decipher.  Does anyone have links to illustrations of this thing?  The language describing it was confusing to say the least.

Offline brian334

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #88 on: January 16, 2011, 10:27:39 PM »
The question is how fast will machine # 2 spin as it falls?

 

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