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Offline brian334

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Patent announcement
« on: August 10, 2010, 03:36:15 PM »
 

I recently received a patent on three machines
designed to convert gravity to mechanical energy.
The patent can be viewed here. United  States  Patent  7770389
« Last Edit: August 10, 2010, 04:02:59 PM by brian334 »

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2010, 08:21:29 PM »
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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2010, 08:32:51 PM »
Pl try here:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm


Abstract

A empty tank submersed in a body of liquid will float to the surface, as the tank floats up it will do work. It is the goal of this machine to empty the tank after the tank has been submersed, and in the process of emptying the tank do less work than the empty tank does when it floats up.
Inventors:    Sandler; Brian Peter (West Bloomfield, MI)
Appl. No.:    11/906,464
Filed:    October 2, 2007

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2010, 08:32:51 PM »
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Offline Omnibus

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2010, 08:54:39 PM »
Can you show it analytically, with formuli, how this thing happens? How does the machine, all by itself, does less work when emptying than the work it does when it floats up to the surface?

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2010, 10:01:33 PM »
All machines are powered by some kind of fuel, the fuel that powers these machines is gravity.

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2010, 10:52:32 PM »
All machines are powered by some kind of fuel, the fuel that powers these machines is gravity.

This is only figuratively speaking because gravity is force. Nevertheless, it has already been proven that the conservative force of gravity can cause spontaneous displacement, that is, can cause work to be done without depleting a pre-existing energy reservoir. In other words, it has been shown that under certain circumstances work can be done without spending fuel.

How do you prove that the construction in your patent also does this?

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2010, 11:06:39 PM »
one of the first machines i ever designed did this easily, i don't know how yours works, mine was a simple flap valve on the top that opened when it reach the top the tank would fill and sink again, the floating tank was inside a large fish tank, the base of the tank had a hole and a long flexible piece of tube that went out through the wall of the fish tank glass with some simple silicone, naturally as the tank hit bottom it simply pushed a rod that opened the base hole and pushed closed the flap at the top and gravity emptied about half of the water. a better engineer would have had a hollow rod through the hose to allow air in, as mine kept making a vacum, it worked, and you could patent it as it does work and could produce power, but as you can imagine where water flows with gravity for it to be commerciallly viable it must produce more than a hydro setup of equal flow. The patent office will grant a patent on anything that works, it does not have to be practical nor be commercially viable, simply be a novel inventive step and work, the one you just read works, but is simply a toy, anyone wishing to build it do not forget the airline inlet through the outlet hose, and the upper flap had a cork on top that pull the lid closed from above and when in free air the weight of the lid makes it fall open, and stay open until water stops pouring in, the lid of the floating tank had grooves from the outside running to the centre because the top would always be too high out of the water to refill, the rod is simply through rubber gromits from clark rubber. and an aluminium tank sealed with silicone.

I imagine this device has a similar principal, other wise a gravity pump not relying on a downhill freefall could be used for anything, and something much more powerful that this.

Not raining on your parade, i thought mine was the coolest thing ever, and was indeed a novel patentable invention.

Note, I am involved in the design of a hydro project being funded by venture capital, and you can bet the first math that was done was flow rate for work of the new machines of existing hydro before they even looked at it, my input was the physics and mechanical side of the design. The math I leave to everyone else, I knew my design was better simply by flow weight volume over time, what that means in kiliowatts I have no idea. I hope I am wrong and you have discovered something no one else has thought of in this gravity pump.

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2010, 11:30:13 PM »
@brian334

Your machine is now patented, no more need for secrecy.

May be you would like to show us photos or better videos of a working machine.

It would be great to see a machine that actually (not only theoretically) coverts gravity to mechanical energy.

I hope you forgive my skepticism as far as the patent is concerned. There are literally thousands of patents claiming "strange machines" which unfortunately never worked.

Greetings, Conrad
« Last Edit: August 10, 2010, 11:53:56 PM by conradelektro »

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2010, 02:28:02 AM »
I guess, what @conradelectro asks applies to both @brian334 and @The Eskimo Quinn. It isn't at all obvious that you have anything before you demonstrate it so that others can reproduce it. Never mind its commercial viability. Just show that it goes up and down in the fish tank more than once on its own.

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2010, 05:33:30 PM »
Mr. Bus,
Will you explain why any of these machines won’t work?

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2010, 08:09:37 PM »
@brian334

For me, there is no need to proof that a machine does not work.

It is the inventor who has to proof that it really works, best by building a working prototype and showing it publicly.

If you followed the many threads in this forum you probably saw that none of the alleged "wounder machines" where ever proven to work. All attempts to get clear and concise information about a working machine always failed.

The burden of proof is on you! And I sincerely hope that you will be the first one in this forum (in fact, the first one in human history) who succeeds. I would be very sad if we once again discuss an illusion.

It is very simple, just show a working machine and explain how it can be replicated. But exactly this "simple demonstration" never happens.

Replication does not mean, that your patent protection vanishes. It would help you to attract funding.

Sorry for writing the obvious, I will not insist further. It just needed to be said and I do not want to speculate publicly why the inventors of strange machines never proceed in an obvious way.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Patent announcement
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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2010, 08:16:20 PM »
Mr. Bus,
Will you explain why any of these machines won’t work?

These machines will not work because the energy gained when the contraption floats to the top will be exactly equal to the energy spent to empty it when at the bottom. It's for you now to prove that's not the case.

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2010, 08:48:40 PM »
Hello Brian,

Thanks very much for posting the patent number to your invention. Congratulations on getting the patent.

Do you have a working prototype? I would very much be interested in seeing pictures of a device if you could post them here on this forum.

Thanks again for your efforts.

RR2


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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2010, 09:44:29 PM »
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If you get an error message like this from Google Patents Advanced Patent Search, try:

http://www.pat2pdf.org

They have a lot more complete database.

http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat7770389.pdf

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Re: Patent announcement
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2010, 10:15:43 PM »
It is not at all evident that the patent in question has achieved its goal:

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It is the goal of this machine to empty the tank after the tank has been submersed, and in the process of emptying the tank do less work than the empty tank does when it floats up

 

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