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Author Topic: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.  (Read 20266 times)

Offline AB Hammer

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Re: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2010, 03:48:57 AM »
To clarify any misunderstanding in my test. It is a test to see if CF can cause enough water pressure to force water down and up a hose to pore back into the bucket. You swing the bucket around as you would swing a ball on a string. The water will stay in the bucket, but the test is to see if you can get it to force the water against CF.

All I will say is good luck. When I did the test, I did force up some water but I had to work at it and I don't believe you will get enough action for the design. But to be fair I will look at it some more and look for the flaws to see if a correction can be made.

Alan


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Re: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.
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Re: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2010, 11:19:40 PM »
To clarify any misunderstanding in my test. It is a test to see if CF can cause enough water pressure to force water down and up a hose to pore back into the bucket. You swing the bucket around as you would swing a ball on a string. The water will stay in the bucket, but the test is to see if you can get it to force the water against CF.

All I will say is good luck. When I did the test, I did force up some water but I had to work at it and I don't believe you will get enough action for the design. But to be fair I will look at it some more and look for the flaws to see if a correction can be made.

Alan




No, Alan you have this correct. A very similar thing happens in
Unipolar Dynamos. The water pressure in the bucket and the water
pressure in the pipe both end up being the same psia pressure
per square inch at depth. Without any pressure difference
the volume of flow pipe vs bucket makes no difference. So
except for a little intertial spill-over no water transfers.

In the Unipolar Dynamo this happens with electrons rather than water.
(given a motion vector by a magnetic field.)  If the electrical current
is pulled from the rim of the dynamo - everything is cool. but if one
tries to run a wire from the rim back to axle...bsst' no current
can flow because the voltage on the disk and in the wire are
the same oposite voltage potential- Potential current difference
then makes no difference and no current can/will flow in the wire.

:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2010, 12:25:42 AM »
  @All,
 I do believe this web site would be considered a publication since it is a public forum.
 And if you read the last sentence, may or may not be protected in foreign countries.
 Unless the price has changed, Provisional Patents are $110.
Since I am going the way of for profit private builder, doubt there would be any need for me to post in here any more.
 And if neither of my idea's prove to be functional, that's okay. It would be because of them that I could understand Bessler's wheel. I have all the weights and have started on it, but will stop.
 
http://www.uspto.gov/patents/resources/types/provapp.jsp

   Provisional Application for Patent Filing Date Requirements

  The provisional application must be made in the name(s) of all of the inventor(s). It can be filed up to 12 months following the date of first sale, offer for sale, public use, or publication of the invention. (These pre-filing disclosures, although protected in the United States, may preclude patenting in foreign countries

Hi,

Not sure what u are saying..  You are gonna patent this idear? 

C'man

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Re: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2010, 12:25:42 AM »
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Offline Cherryman

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Re: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2010, 08:33:19 AM »
  C-Man,
 Not sure who you are talking to, but you should tell them to get their facts straight before accusing someone.
 For all I know, you added a way to generate electricity off of my idea. Do have an earlier date documented.

Hi P-Motion,

About straight facts, I'm not accusing, it was a question as i do not quite understand your post.

As for myself, I'm not claiming anything, i just added my idea to the open source community.

C'man

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Re: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2010, 12:50:08 AM »
Jim

He is dealing with CF effect and it is a simple CF test for water flow in Cf conditions. Why was it so hard for you to connect the dots on such a simple test?

Alan

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Offline broli

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Re: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2010, 02:19:11 AM »
I'm sure you guys want to skin each other alive.

I'll repeat, this idea is not new. It has been actually performed and it works. That it is overunity is entirely different. But centrifugal force can make the water rise, same reason why a centrifugal governor rises. The difference of course is the continuous feed of water mass.

Here's some more info on related tech:
http://www.free-energy.ws/messias-machine.html


Offline Cherryman

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Re: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2010, 11:37:33 AM »
Indeed, back on the subject!  ;D
 
I was thinking of creating extra mass by enlarging only the horizontal water mass, inflow and outflow smaller.

Think of it as a bottle in between.   This extra mass want to escape the rotating force.. Only way out > trough the turbines.


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Re: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.
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Offline Cherryman

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Re: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2010, 11:43:05 AM »
One good thing is that eventually load is not "taken" from the driving engine.

Ass the mass of the rotating wheel, including (flowing) water inside the pipes and bottles is always the same.  So, once revd up, the wheel is only to be kept moving by a little force.

I thinking of using reversed water-pumps as generators.

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Re: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2010, 11:45:36 AM »
@ Broli.

Indeed it looks very similar to the messias machine!
 
The difference is in My harnessing of the water flow, which is, in my believe, more direct and more powerful.

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Re: Centrifugal gravity water wheel.
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2010, 11:45:36 AM »
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