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Offline hansvonlieven

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Re: Energy Reciever design
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2007, 08:59:49 AM »
G'day Lanka,

You were wondering how to get some pure Sodium (Natrium in German and Latin). Some scientific supply houses sell it in small quantities but this is expensive and they probably wouldn't sell it to you because it is very nasty stuff.

If you really need some you have to make it yourself. Sodium Chloride (Kochsalz) is not a good starting point, Caustic Soda (Sodium Hydroxide NAO2) is much better.

All you have to do is to get rid of the Oxygen and you have the metal. This is not as difficult as it sounds.

You will need two carbon rods and an electric welder, some sort of small ceramic vessel and some ingenuity.

You must mount the carbon rods in such a fashion that they can maintain an arc in the bottom of the vessel using the electric welder as a power source. Once the arc burns you simply add the Sodium Hydroxide to the vessel. The arc will rip the oxygen from the sodium Hydroxide and the metal remains. As long as the process is going there is no real danger as the space on top of the reaction is a reducing atmosphere.

The moment you stop things become tricky. On no account must the metal come into contact with the air or any moisture. Even the small amount of moisture in the air can trigger a violent reaction.

The metal is a white silvery stuff about the consistency of cheese, you can cut it with a knife. It is usually stored in a jar full of oil. Any contact with water will set off an explosive reaction combining with the oxygen in the water to form Sodium Hydroxide and releasing Hydrogen gas.

If you ever are tempted to try this please read a lot more on the subject and familiarise yourself with the necessary precautions you must take to ensure your safety. Contact between the metal and the skin must be avoided at all cost as very nasty burns result, safety goggles are an absolute must as the smallest bit of the metal hitting your eye will destroy it.

As I said, it is nasty stuff.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Energy Reciever design
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Re: Energy Reciever design
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2007, 10:33:30 PM »
Hey i posted a very similar idea in the other batteries section and trees have a huge impact on current so try that too but my post is left hanging where i need some ideas for a circuit that would collect this energy and step it up a little. http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3500.msg55406.html#msg55406 we should collaborate together.
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2007, 01:15:07 PM »
I am working on this even as we speak.  Everything I have read on this (Google: Earth batteries) speaks of not only north/south alignment but the angle from the bottom of the rods in the ground need to match the declination and can be measured by using a dip needle.  I am going to start by attempting to light a very small red LED and then may progress to using a capacitor to see how much it might charge it.  Then, I want to attempt an array and wire them in series to see what max volts might be achieved.  My electronics background is weak so I will need input from you smart folks here on this forum.

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Re: Energy Reciever design
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2007, 03:26:28 AM »
This "ground battery" is nothin more than an electrochemical battery.

utilizing electrolytes in the dirt/soil. 

you can achieve the same effect with the copper + steel/zink in a bucket of saltwater.

personally, i think it is salt that does this, but ive had a geologist tell me there are hundreds of other minerals in the ground that could be equally responsible.

while i haven't performed this experiment myself, i propose that the power (Volt * Amp) is going to be proportional to the surface area of the two electrodes. it should be stackable in both parallel and series to create a battery of any size, but one would deductively conclude that this will eventually deplete the ground of electrolyte, so this would have to be replenished over time in order to sustain a very large array.

:::as to the effects of the magnetic allignment, it should be viewed as not a "boost" from the
   magnetic allignment, but rather a reduction in the back-EMF caused by perpendicularlly
   crossing the earths field. which decreases the power.  So, alligning it with the field causes
   almost no back EMF, and essentialy lowers the resstance of your circuit, allowing for more
   efficiency.


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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2007, 03:47:35 AM »
@ SmOky2:

Have you read the thread Earth Battery experiments?  Have you seen some of the videos there? (including mine)  I think we have proved, at least to my satisfaction, that this is more than just galvanic reaction.  I like your explanation about the back emf, I have never heard that before.  But, when I first tried this, why did I get voltage from two metals of the same composition? (copper pipe north, copper pipe south)  If I put them into salt water....nothing right?  I am now getting about 1.8 vdc and 2.7 vac with my small setup.  I have read that this is higher than pure glavanic reaction can do.  Please read the thread over there as it sounds like you have a lot to add to the discussion.  I can light one LED and I have 50 more on order.  We are all looking at ways to boost the volts and amps...coils, arrays, etc.  I would like to know more about the back EMF that you mentioned if you have the time.  I am fascinated by all of this.

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Re: Energy Reciever design
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2008, 01:36:15 PM »
In thinking about this, I hypothisized that maybe there is current running through the earth and by placing stakes in the ground with a wire in between, you are just giving it an easier path than going through the earth. If the current is wanting to go from north to south, that would explain the greater current/voltage if aligned. This would make sense if what Pirate said about copper north and south giving off a voltage as well. One way to test this would be to just place a wire in the ground at each end and see if you get voltage. Please comment. I am going to try this once the ground thaws here in Minnesota.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2008, 04:43:29 PM by troyd1 »

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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2008, 04:13:09 PM »
@ SmOky2:

Have you read the thread Earth Battery experiments?  Have you seen some of the videos there? (including mine)  I think we have proved, at least to my satisfaction, that this is more than just galvanic reaction.  I like your explanation about the back emf, I have never heard that before.  But, when I first tried this, why did I get voltage from two metals of the same composition? (copper pipe north, copper pipe south)  If I put them into salt water....nothing right?  I am now getting about 1.8 vdc and 2.7 vac with my small setup.  I have read that this is higher than pure glavanic reaction can do.  Please read the thread over there as it sounds like you have a lot to add to the discussion.  I can light one LED and I have 50 more on order.  We are all looking at ways to boost the volts and amps...coils, arrays, etc.  I would like to know more about the back EMF that you mentioned if you have the time.  I am fascinated by all of this.

Bill


What if we take those two copper pieces
put them into a (roughly) equal solution of hemetite, gypsum, augite, quartz, NaCl.

would they then still be inert?

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Re: Energy Reciever design
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2008, 05:36:22 PM »
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/915226/free_electricity_from_thin_air/

has this anything to do with this topic?
just wondering
thanks

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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2008, 05:43:34 PM »
@ All:

Just a quick update on the earth battery work.  We are now using bifilar coils (with iron core) copper wire and iron wire as did Stubblefield.  Now I am getting .9 vdc and 19 mA.  Another guy in our topic is getting about the same vdc but 35 mA.
The beautiful thing with these coils is that they are stand alone units and can be wired in parallel or series without the shorting problem we encountered with the single electrode approach.  Off topic a bit but possibly relevant to your topic.
Tesla's fingerprints are all over this design and he knew Stubblefield and had some dealings with him.


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« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2008, 07:34:34 PM »
@ Pirate


 Thanks!!! - that sounds like it solves the very problem i was having with multiple 'nodes'

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Re: Energy Reciever design
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2008, 06:11:03 PM »
permanent magnet receiver
developped:1876
Inventor:Graham/Alexander Bell

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« Reply #27 on: February 29, 2008, 02:54:12 AM »

Coincidentally I grew up a 45 minutes away from the Bell Museum in Baddeck on Cape Breton Island.

It seems I read a very convincing account a while back, where Bell like Edison 'borrowed' Tesla's technology and ran with it while Tesla was involved in other things.

Regards...


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« Reply #28 on: February 29, 2008, 03:48:48 AM »
Bell + Anderson = Time-Tec
but I feel that there is not the question more about TIME and the MACHINE, it is about
overunity, in living action !
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Re: Energy Reciever design-by Lawrence Rayburn
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2008, 03:27:56 AM »
Any info or updates on this design by Lawrence Rayburn?

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/RadiantEnergy/LawrenceRayburn/index.html

Device has antenna, tuned circuit, ac or dc output..works by either using electrostatic capture or EM (7.3 Hz) capture. Has anybody tried this, or is related to other circuits in other categories?

 

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