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Author Topic: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .  (Read 327457 times)

Offline 7redorbs

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Many of you are still wondering how Edward LEedskalnins flywheel works. Many are wondering why the magnets are arranged in NN SS triangular radial configuration.

The only way to positively understand this. Is to look at the basic PMH from the earlier experiments of Leedskalnin.

Leedskalnin explains that if you put around your coil and iron core, a steel frame, you get half more of the magnets than you usually would. He says that better yet, if you connect the outer steel frame to the inner iron core, then, no magnets will be lost whatsoever, and any magnets that are lost are replaced either by the individual magnets in the air , or in the magnetic field of the earth.

Edward Leedskalnin said in a low key way, that if the coil is North, then the outer steel coil will be South pole, and if the coil is South, then the outer steel will be North.

In this way, the instructions Ed have given is two generate, not one, but 2 alternating currents that are equal and opposite to each-other, he says balance is very important and here is why:

As the South magnets spin towards the iron core of a PMH, they put a NORTH field into the outer steel, causing a South Field to form in the inner iron core, and, as the flywheel's south magnet moves away from the PMH, they put a South field into the outer steel, causing a North field to form in the inner iron core.

Because the PMH A) does not lose magnets and B) The frame is connected to it's iron core the magnets do not any more follow a standard elecrtical circuit's stream, and the same eddy curents that were present, I do not think they are present anymore, because of this there will be very low losses, and much reduced resistance.

Furthermore, as the spinning magnet wheel in V NN SS configuration puts energy into a PMH, The PMH has with the steel outer frame connected to the iron core, alternates 4 times for every PASS of a single pole, instead of the usual two that Edward Leedskalnin taught.

This is because you have added an additional circuit to the PMH Steel and iron. Combined with this the reasoning of North directly following North on a magnetic wheel is, that when North is moving away there is a South pole in the outer steel, and a north pole in the inner core, and so, when the steel changes, then the iron must too, and there is a time differential dx/dt that must be calculated. This is where 4 quadrant theory, quaternions and Eric Dollards excellent work on hysteresis comes in. Much like the 7 modes of a musical system of Ancient Church modes of Mixolydian, Ionian, Phrygian, Lydian, Aeolian, Loerian, and Dorian, and the standing wave of a single note n / 2.

By connecting the extra two wires, like Ed said in the PMH, and linking that outer steel to the inner iron, with the wire coil inbetween them, this makes a perfect magnet, and transformer, because the outside always holds north pole, and the inside always holds the opposite pole. Timing is important, and the Arrangement of the outer V North South poles of the flywheel:


because as North magnet on flywheel moves away, outer steel has south magnet, attracting the next North, and as North moves closer, The south pole magnets go in the outer steel first, which causes a North pole induced into the inner iron, and as the next 2 South Pole's of the magnetic wheel approaches in turn, they will make a the steel outside of the PMH a North pole, and as each South pole moves away, the steel outside of the PMH becomes South, Like poles attract, unlike poles push away.

This is what Edward Leedskalnin meant by the PMH had possession of perpetual power, but not unless you make use of the perpetual motion held by the holder, the found way that was beyond the second order differential, as discussed by Heaviside, Tesla, and Dollard & Steinmetz (more than 2 simultaneously variant transients). I believe this is equivocal to "squaring the circle" or taking the square root of -1 and producing electricity with it.

In any case, you now know why Ed teaches to connect pmh steel outer , to iron inner, and have the coil in the middle, that way you get 2 poles instead of 1 for each Pole the wire can make, that way you get twice as much magnets in your transformer, that way no magnets are wasted, and that way you will get 4 poles in your metals, from the 2 in the battery.


And 4 poles is the premise to 4 quadrant quadrature, that is the 90 degree relationship right there, and how those poles are 'chasing' eachother, is of the critical point to Leedskalnins work.

So as you can see, I have now shared with you how his device works. May we liberate ourselves from the terror of the world we have today. May good men walk free and do good unto themselves, may we prosper from the secrets of the Pyramid Builders, less we destroy ourselves again.

I reveal to you the lost history of Sankoa, Africa, Israel , and Solomon. I reveal the revelation of a free energy future. I reveal that the planets, and their individual magnets, they make all of the energy in the sea.

Might I reveal, that it was as delusive today, as it was yesterday (as Tesla rightly said), to attempt to gain wind or water energy from the sea or the sky, is madness, when it's real source, is the planets in outer space and the cosmos, and indeed, the sun.

This is the difference between the pyramid builders legacy, what they left to the Egyptian's, and what we practice today.

Do not miss this important message, read it again. I promise you will not be disapointed, I have not only shared the law of perpetual motion. I have shared how to turn it into perpetual power, at great danger to my personal self.

You need courage people, oh and in dollards quadrature, there is Lead time which I believe is to the 3 (clock power), there is opposing force (6 to the clock power), and there is Lagging Force Time ( which is to the 9 clock power), and is equal to the NN SS design of Ed's wheel coupled with the 4 quadrant (4 pole) inverter AC transformer PMH that ed describes.

In this way we find a way to generate complex AC currents, based on time differential, and the antithesis of other alternating poles and movements, how Tesla's magneto dielectric impulse technology worked, and how the Universe itself works electrically.

Make no mistake I share everything I know,

Best,
A

Offline Doug1

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #286 on: May 13, 2012, 02:40:11 PM »
Thank you that is worth a build. While i was reading it I had a thought that a magnet motor could also be produced with this methode from a typical IC engine.Soon as my son finishes blowing up the engine on our ridding mower it will become the doner for that. I was already searching for good soft iron rod stock to build a PMH. Ed mentioned using a brass or bronze bobin for the winding but those will be harder to get hold of then the rod stock. I have only copper to work with so do you think there is any critical difference in those materials for the bobins on the PMH. Funds are limited right now,Im building a monster size brick oven for cooking.Two tons of fire brick for the oven linner is sucking my wallet dry.

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Leedskanin fuelless generator
« Reply #287 on: June 09, 2012, 06:17:20 PM »
Hello,

I am looking for replicators who can assemble E. Leedskalnin flywheel and PMH in a way he did. Please let me know if anyone is willing to do hard work :)

I think I finally did put puzzle pieces together on E. Leedskalnin generator and we had proof of his fuelless generator almost for 70 years..

So instructions to remake one should be as following:

1) The flywheel is made from same pole magnets what are squizzed together by force to make sharp magnetic poles. Because of that we do not have strong magnetic field in then edges on the magnets. The strongest point is only in place where two same poles are did put together. With resonant spinning they make maximum electricity in PMH and cause no drag. Bye bye Lenz law if I am correct... :)
2) The 3 poles are fit in depth of PMH.
3) The PMH is inside of metal core (the box in photo). That amplifies magnetic currents (in E. Leedskalnin book).
4) The spark gap is used to take power out of high voltage from PMH on peaks only when magnets are approached already. NO MORE OTHER CONNECTIONS what are killing free oscillation!

Offline 7redorbs

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Re: Leedskanin fuelless generator
« Reply #288 on: June 09, 2012, 06:30:33 PM »
Hello,

I am looking for replicators who can assemble E. Leedskalnin flywheel and PMH in a way he did. Please let me know if anyone is willing to do hard work :)

I think I finally did put puzzle pieces together on E. Leedskalnin generator and we had proof of his fuelless generator almost for 70 years..

So instructions to remake one should be as following:

1) The flywheel is made from same pole magnets what are squizzed together by force to make sharp magnetic poles. Because of that we do not have strong magnetic field in then edges on the magnets. The strongest point is only in place where two same poles are did put together. With resonant spinning they make maximum electricity in PMH and cause no drag. Bye bye Lenz law if I am correct... :)
2) The 3 poles are fit in depth of PMH.
3) The PMH is inside of metal core (the box in photo). That amplifies magnetic currents (in E. Leedskalnin book).
4) The spark gap is used to take power out of high voltage from PMH on peaks only when magnets are approached already. NO MORE OTHER CONNECTIONS what are killing free oscillation!

You sir deserve to be congratulated.

Here is my small version doing what your claiming, I'm draining my battery because I have no outer steel casing on the PMH. The wheel is a variant. Just like you said. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZwXcIoTfoM

WELL DONE. I had concluded that there is a spark gap at 90 to the spinning wheel magnetic longitudinal torsion field too. "the blue vertical longitudinal component" it is also curved. and more than a single line...

Again, you should be congratulated. Well done.

Best,
A

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #289 on: June 09, 2012, 07:32:56 PM »
The forum is bugging again..

The copy of photo is in http://imgbin.org/images/8388.png
The analysis of flywheel is in http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/01/flux-flow-analysis-of-the-edward-leedskalnin-flywheel/

Hopefuly that will not be lost... The copy  of this information is held by Russian FE community members too.



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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #290 on: June 10, 2012, 12:12:09 AM »
Hi 7,
 
Would you please explain more regarding the revelation?
 
Kindest Regards, Penno
 
p.s. I wish you would at least show in light what you last video is about

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #291 on: June 10, 2012, 01:45:15 AM »
Hi 7,
 
Would you please explain more regarding the revelation?
 
Kindest Regards, Penno
 
p.s. I wish you would at least show in light what you last video is about

You are right. I am happy to accomodate that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UowavvqUti4


1. You should Look for the Longitudinal Blue Vertical
2. Look for the 90 degrees Leedskalnin Relationship
3. Study 4 Quadrant Theory of Eric Dollard and Maxwell Quaternions (before they were modified by Heaviside)
4. Observe Mechanical - Oscillating Current in Transformer that is A.C kind.
5. Observe that the electrical supply is not providing electrons, it is providing magnets, and that is why the device oscillates back and fro.
6. Observe there is mechanical movement from the `electricity` alone, but no electrons are in sight.
7. Observe that the transformer is in motion whilst the J rod is in motion, at the same moment that the magnetic current (what you might be calling 1 way electrons) from the battery is in motion. Here we see that something is going 2 ways, it is not resistance, it is the magnetic field pushing and pulling. Observe that this is a 3rd order differential, and requires Quaternion Theory and Maxwell I to resolve.
8. Observe that when there is 3 varying relationships, (3rd order differential) with 3 varying velocities, Electricity can create solid state-movement.
9. Notice that the "Electromagnet" I have, alternates, this means that between (or rather, in the middle of) each cycle it has 0 mass in the same way that the electricity pylons do to decrease the voltage losses.
10. Notice that when the mass is 0, (between alternations) the voltages are higher, and that is why A.C is used for long distance, by artificially reducing the mass of the wire, via impulses and thus decreasing the energy that can be lost ;-)
11. Here the battery is providing DC, and the air and magnets in/from spark to create AC impulse running currents.
12. As you can see it is fairly elementary the statements I make, and they can be verified for yourself, without the need to criticise the hard work I have made.
13. If you feel that you can give a better explanation than in my video you can go below and see how it works for yourself. Also feel free to make a comment.


Thank you and good day :)

Best,
A

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #292 on: June 10, 2012, 03:19:03 AM »
Hi 7,
 
Sorry if you misunderstood my post.
 
I am intrigued by your experiments and want to know more.
 
I merely wished to see the device you were demontrating.
 
Again, apololiges if I offended.
 
Regards, Penno

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #293 on: June 10, 2012, 04:01:04 AM »
Hi 7,
 
Sorry if you misunderstood my post.
 
I am intrigued by your experiments and want to know more.
 
I merely wished to see the device you were demontrating.
 
Again, apololiges if I offended.
 
Regards, Penno
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Hey Buddy ;)

I am not offended. I carbon copied the youtube description in my post. I will post more about the device for you shortly, but alas it is 3am and I must sleep now. I hope this satisfies your curiosity and I am all along delighted that people do show an interest in this work. Delighted. Not offended ;-)

Best,
A

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #294 on: June 10, 2012, 07:46:31 PM »
     I don't know if this post belongs here but I will offer my lifelong experience with electric motors to help explain Ed's machine.  In order to convert electrical energy to magnetic energy you need to redistribute electrical charge.  The magnetic field is comprised of energised particles that respond to and are responsible for charge.  If you move a charged body like say an electron the particles that create the charge of the electron change their path.  This change in path is described as the propogation of a magnetic field.  An electrical current is not the movement of charged particles as some would have you believe.  Electrical current flows from anyplace that has different charge density.  In a permanent magnet the atoms comprising the magnet are caused to take on a crystallized form under the influence of an electrical current.  The metals are caused to be molten and exposed to current generated by an external scource.  As the metals are cooled they form a crystal that "remembers" the external current.  The atomic lattice is so disposed that the charged matter creates a predictable magnetic flow into and out of the field of the magnet.  Let me call these virtual particles magnetons.  A positively charged body (like a proton) has it's positive charge assigned to it because the space it occupies has less charge density than the electron's charge density.  This creates a constant current between the electron (which is now identified as being smeared in the atomic model not a little planet going about the neucleus) and the proton.  If there was no energy input from somewhere a hydrogen ion could not exist.  The electron atmosphere would quickly deplete itself of all charge anistrophy and the proton would become a neutron.  Now I have to refer to particle physics because it seems the "most validated" scientific theory in practice now.  The magnetons flow from a spot of higher charge concentration to one of a lower one.  The electron which has more charge density gives up these magnetons.  Monatomic hydrogen is the most reactive atom known to man.  As the monatomic hydrogen atom proton deplete's it's electron of charge it becomes a neutron unless it can reach magnetic equilibrium with an external field.
In any electric field there are magnetons being transferred from a point or plane or 3dimensional sector of high charge to a field of low charge.  They continually replenish the electron field at a rate that allows the electron to exist.  If we move the matter into which they are flowing in around and all about then a magnetic field arises.  In an electric motor we move electrons.  The magnetron current supporting the electron relativity then follows the movement of the charged matter.  Ed knows this.  He has been studying magnetism.  Taking batteries and watching cables jump as he moves massive amounts of electrons through the cables.  He studies which way they tend to jump in relationship to the ambient magnetic field of the Earth. He realizes that the magnetic field is a flow of something.  Why bother moving electrons in a wire why not just send magnetic shock waves down a steel cable.  If I want or need an electrical device to work distant from my magnetic flux generator I will transmit magnetic waves through the mass of the cable and just wrap a little copper wire around the end of the cable and get my electricity.  In an unloaded power transformer current is minimal.  The impedance of the primary is such that little current passes from line to line. When current is drawn from the secondary the primary is no longer choked. It's impedance drops and current flows through the line circuit.  Now imagine you take the core of that transformer and run it down into your house instead of a copper wire you have one steel wire.  You wrap some heavy wire around this steel cable.  When you draw current it does not affect the primary impedance at all.  Because it took time for the magnetic field flux change to be transmitted to your end of the transformer.

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #295 on: June 10, 2012, 10:55:24 PM »
     I don't know if this post belongs here but I will offer my lifelong experience with electric motors to help explain Ed's machine.

In order to understand what Ed was doing with generator, there is much simpler answer.

You need to combine few effects into one. Ed's same pole magnets tied together for sharp magnetic field in junction only and almost no field around http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/01/flux-flow-analysis-of-the-edward-leedskalnin-flywheel/ + PMH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvi5yBZfeFk with high voltage iron windings in generator mode what cause this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9k-iMjjsE (explained in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czXmazZ4obs ) + core around coil not coil around core www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB0UMhpOHXk (and in Ed's photo I showed earler)  + spark gap for shorting generator coil to load on peaks only (explained in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7C7YOetDY#t=0h30m00s )

And question still remains: why conventional generators are still tied to 50/60Hz and have current generating coils not high voltage generating coils..? It is wrong from day one...

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #296 on: June 11, 2012, 02:34:13 AM »
In order to understand what Ed was doing with generator, there is much simpler answer.

You need to combine few effects into one. Ed's same pole magnets tied together for sharp magnetic field in junction only and almost no field around http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/01/flux-flow-analysis-of-the-edward-leedskalnin-flywheel/ + PMH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvi5yBZfeFk with high voltage iron windings in generator mode what cause this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9k-iMjjsE (explained in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czXmazZ4obs ) + core around coil not coil around core www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB0UMhpOHXk (and in Ed's photo I showed earler)  + spark gap for shorting generator coil to load on peaks only (explained in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7C7YOetDY#t=0h30m00s )

And question still remains: why conventional generators are still tied to 50/60Hz and have current generating coils not high voltage generating coils..? It is wrong from day one...

   The insulation systems inside high voltage alternators limit the amount of voltage they can produce.  This voltage is then transformed into high voltage for transmission.  High frequency ac has tremendous power losses in transmission due to the capacity of the lines.  Even at 60hz the lines selfinduction losses are considerable.  As you noted we need the voltage and not the current.  Tesla designed a distribution system while Westinghouse and Edison were waging the war of currents.  This entailed a spark gap, two transmission lines, motors and a local capacitor (if needed)  The whole transmission network represented a tuned resonant circuit.  When the spark gap fired, voltage from the scource flows unimpeded to the capcitor.  Meanwhile the motor generators comprising the inductance needed in a resonant circuit impede any current flow from the gap.  The transmission line whether it is a thousand miles long or a mile long is carrying no electronic current.  The capacitor is being step charged with DC high voltage impulses.  O to 20,000 volts per spark gap fire.  In the beginning his system had a return wire to the line capacitor.  After that he got rid of that wire and took the other side of the system capacitor and tied it to ground.  This left a one wire transmission line transmitting pure voltage to charge a capacitor thousands of miles away.  The inductive elements were shown as motors.  The motors then drove conventional alternators or generators or later took on the form of motionless dc generators and alternators.  Lighting was directly tied to the high voltage. Gas filled bulbs?  Capacitors were real expensive.  Miles of copper wire in a distribution system was a significant amount of capacitance.  If this wasnt in the local network then he needed a capacitor to store thousands of horsepower.  He made one and it is his bifilar wound pancake coil.  This is a capacitor rated at millions of volts and farads only limited by the mass of the coil.  No one bought into it.  They were busy making the present day grid.
The other side of his capacitor tied to ground because it represents a significant scource of charge. He once rated it in mfd and stated that the entire globe acted like a solid copper ball the size of a golf ball in as much as how much electrical capacity it had.  Not it's potential to transfer charge just the amount of charge you would need to fill it up to full capacity.

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #297 on: June 11, 2012, 03:57:19 AM »
Hey Sparks  ;]

You seem so well read in Tesla. I have a question.

What do you believe is the most important discovery Tesla had found, in the book Colorado Springs Notes.

Thanks for that post ;]

Mags

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #298 on: June 11, 2012, 01:56:57 PM »
N. Tesla knew about problems with long transmission lines so he designed wireless one. But we still not use that today.

And self running generators are always on high frequency and based on Lenz force redirection to do rotor push for second cycle in useful way. This is opposed to what engineers are fighting when designing generators and motors for hundred years...

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #299 on: June 11, 2012, 06:21:36 PM »
How is this power scheme any different than 60hz mains that would help him cut coral blocks and levitate them?
Im still seeing the standard  magnetic field cutting a coil.
The box is held down which I assume is to keep it from jumping {high voltage?}. Also the chain seems to be held by a bolt connected to the box. If a Pmh is inside the box then its smaller than the one he shows to build and that means smaller coils also.  The size of the magnetic field covers the entire area of the box. If it is a Pmh coil  producing voltage/amps to the chain and to the Pmh that  may sit on top of the tripod, then the Pmh/coil on top of the tripod may have a larger voltage coil. Seeing how there is no visible return on the chain it may be connected to one coil of the Pmh on the tripod , with the other going out to another chain being the output. If so is this chain a monopole? I know bombarding a magnet with an extremely high voltage magnetic field will cause it to explode. Thats a lot of pressure.  An iron chain could store a lot more pressure than a mere small magnet.
Fwiw!