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Author Topic: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .  (Read 345546 times)

IotaYodi

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #165 on: November 16, 2010, 05:07:00 AM »
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magnetic current is different than electric current
Yes it is. To me in its pure form its 2 constant fast moving gravitational fields traveling towards each other directly head on. The weakest fields being center of the poles and dividing line. Man made permanent and electromagnets are made by an electric current. This may be the reason why some think that electricity or electric charge is gravity and vice versus. With the coils on the Pmh being at 90 degrees to the iron,you are pushing the field around in a loop which passes the copper coils on the way,so Im seeing an electric charge being induced into the iron,and when the keeper is removed the charge or spark escapes at the weakest field point on the iron. Even if thats not the case the Pmh still has to be considered an electromagnet and that involves electricity. If Ed used just a magnetic current or field I would think he would have to change the blocks to a like pole,North most likely for push,or south for levitation, or he used the east west electric field of the earth in conjunction with the earths currents and east west gravitational field. If you put the keeper on the pmh and face the poles north or south,with the coils east and west I think you'll see the Earths electric and magnetic fields which are closed loops. Either way you could put an enormous magnetic or electric charge on the iron  chains.
 I see similarity's between the Pmh and sweets vta. Both have coils with magnets,though sweets was a permanent tuned barium magnet. Sweet could levitate his device with higher current,but normal operation only took a small battery to start and the battery would be taken out after it started. A 25 watt bulb was a minimum load to start it. The bulb more or less would be the keeper to close the current loop. Sweet by all accounts created a vortex in the Aether with the magnet. Eds wheel looks like a vortex when spun.     

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #166 on: November 16, 2010, 05:17:33 AM »
Yes it is. To me in its pure form its 2 constant fast moving gravitational fields traveling towards each other directly head on. The weakest fields being center of the poles and dividing line. Man made permanent and electromagnets are made by an electric current. This may be the reason why some think that electricity or electric charge is gravity and vice versus. With the coils on the Pmh being at 90 degrees to the iron,you are pushing the field around in a loop which passes the copper coils on the way,so Im seeing an electric charge being induced into the iron,and when the keeper is removed the charge or spark escapes at the weakest field point on the iron. Even if thats not the case the Pmh still has to be considered an electromagnet and that involves electricity. If Ed used just a magnetic current or field I would think he would have to change the blocks to a like pole,North most likely for push,or south for levitation, or he used the east west electric field of the earth in conjunction with the earths currents and east west gravitational field. If you put the keeper on the pmh and face the poles north or south,with the coils east and west I think you'll see the Earths electric and magnetic fields which are closed loops. Either way you could put an enormous magnetic or electric charge on the iron  chains.
 I see similarity's between the Pmh and sweets vta. Both have coils with magnets,though sweets was a permanent tuned barium magnet. Sweet could levitate his device with higher current,but normal operation only took a small battery to start and the battery would be taken out after it started. A 25 watt bulb was a minimum load to start it. The bulb more or less would be the keeper to close the current loop. Sweet by all accounts created a vortex in the Aether with the magnet. Eds wheel looks like a vortex when spun.   

Tell me where on the core can i connect the volt meter , to gauge the amount of electricity , you can't because they are not traveling in the same direction ...

At least if someone is willing to look at what i am saying without imputing all they know , they will see the tree hiding in the forest .

And yes spinning magnets creates a vortex , great news ... its part of it but not what makes the wheel turn .

As far as when i say gravity force , i mean a pendulum works on gravity , call it what ever you like .

Now tell me did you read the tread ?

Mark



 

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #167 on: November 16, 2010, 09:42:47 AM »
Hey MK1, I'm a muso too....in fact I'm a guitar maker.  ;D Maybe if you work real hard and save your money you can buy one...I put Ed's logo on them as well.... ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JnOKH8Jf4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC-5GnzIyTA&feature=related

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A minor, that is my favorite, so yes I am a minor.  8)
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Here is a test i made a clip of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8mqUsAjF0

There is a great battle going on inside the soft iron, but it succeedes in pushing most of the excess magnets out, only to have some other coil put them back in, and when the magnets go in the soft iron they don't want to leave, because the air has much more resistance than iron.

If MK1 spun a magnet in the middle of his transformer he might light a light, but if he cut a section out of the core and spun the magnet he might light 2 lights. The reason is that in the full core some of the little magnets run in an orbit and don't want to go into the secondary coil, but when there is a gap in the core then alot of the magnets cannot make a full orbit, because they don't like the air gap very much, so they get pushed out by the iron into the secondary and the result is more light. They try to dam up in the iron but it pushes them out.




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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #168 on: November 16, 2010, 10:10:27 AM »
Hi Mk,

I posted this is your other FORCE 1 thread. Thought I'd put it here too.

@MK

You have got to try transformer laminates.

From a couple of burned out plug packs, I simply hacksawed off the copper windings.

You will be surprised.

Regards, Penno (Garry)

Give it a go, eh!

Mk1

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #169 on: November 16, 2010, 05:50:40 PM »
Hey MK1, I'm a muso too....in fact I'm a guitar maker.  ;D Maybe if you work real hard and save your money you can buy one...I put Ed's logo on them as well.... ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JnOKH8Jf4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC-5GnzIyTA&feature=related

During the day I work as a Mechanical Engineering Patternmaker.
I make guitars because it gives me freedom of expression.
A minor, that is my favorite, so yes I am a minor.  8)
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Here is a test i made a clip of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8mqUsAjF0

There is a great battle going on inside the soft iron, but it succeedes in pushing most of the excess magnets out, only to have some other coil put them back in, and when the magnets go in the soft iron they don't want to leave, because the air has much more resistance than iron.

If MK1 spun a magnet in the middle of his transformer he might light a light, but if he cut a section out of the core and spun the magnet he might light 2 lights. The reason is that in the full core some of the little magnets run in an orbit and don't want to go into the secondary coil, but when there is a gap in the core then alot of the magnets cannot make a full orbit, because they don't like the air gap very much, so they get pushed out by the iron into the secondary and the result is more light. They try to dam up in the iron but it pushes them out.


Actually i will spend 80 bucks on wood and build my own , , i have been playing for 25 years , and building for the last 10 years ... I seen your PRS type axe not my tea bag ...

I also know you got a wheel , that doesn't tell me that you know how it works ...

I just have wish that people would at lest look at what i am saying.

The last drawing i made was for the first ring , but you know you need to ring twice ...

The second force is gravity , like gravity is the force on a pendulum .

Mark

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #170 on: November 16, 2010, 07:28:51 PM »
iota....i must agree with you....at least in part....i like the way your mind works!......scotty, i know that you do not agree with matt but i was wondering if after harvey and glen, if you might want to check out my device.....i promise it will open your eyes!....david

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #171 on: November 16, 2010, 09:24:03 PM »
mark, i love your thread, i may not see all of what you say, but please, keep up the good work...i hope more people will really read your thread...david

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #172 on: November 18, 2010, 02:50:59 AM »
hi...sorry to interrupt.....but, can I get a link to MK1's ttread......the theroys' here are fascinating......shylo

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #173 on: November 18, 2010, 04:20:00 AM »
There are 2 forces making the wheel turn gravity and magnetism .

Sorry you can't see that.

Mark
 

It appears to me in the photo it is Ed's hand on the handle that is making the generator turn, instead of gravity and magnetism.

Sorry you can't see that.

GB
« Last Edit: November 18, 2010, 08:04:42 AM by gravityblock »

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #174 on: November 18, 2010, 04:25:58 AM »
Its clear to me that i am wasting me time with most of you guys , since you all know everything , yet no one ever showed how Ed did it .

Mark

I've already shown the basic principals on how Ed did it in another thread.

Here's how one person can move and erect 20,000 lbs without any pulleys, chains, cranes, or heavy machinery.  There really is nothing remarkable about this, once you know how.  It's really simple. 

Man moves massive blocks in his backyard using simple contraptions, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCvx5gSnfW4

GB

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #175 on: November 18, 2010, 04:38:00 AM »
@gravityblock

I have known about that video for quite sometimes , i know it can be done with some rocks , and some weight , but ED did something else to its stone ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaxcGa_KXQw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

You see he left us one stone that is not quite set ...

Also Ed was beaten up by government people and they confiscated a large U shape piece and some magnets ...

He did not have the parts or the will to give it easy to anyone , unless they where worth it .

If you step on a 5 foot man you will not get harm physically , but the Man will go to great link for revenge , making plans to teach what he could do .

The whole castle is a clues , each part not only sculptures by details of the machine , you you can dismiss everything but some will see and succeed .

Mark   

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #176 on: November 18, 2010, 04:39:21 AM »
Mark, I only quoted Ed's words so they can be easily understood.
Why that would be offensive to you is a mystery.
You ask why nobody can show how Ed did it...did what? lift stones, overcome Lenz?

I don't care what Ed did. I care about the theory of magnets he wrote and published.
By learning it I might see what Ed did and that would be great.
To learn something it is useless to start by changing everything related to the subject.

If I can bring someone's "Ed theory" into contradiction by using Ed's own words then I have little faith in that theory for obvious reasons.

Scotty.

Ed said he used weights and leverage, then that is what he used and I have no reason to think otherwise.  Thats why it took him 20-30 years by himself.  If he would have had any type of hydraulic or anti-gravity system it would have been completed much quicker.

GB

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #177 on: November 18, 2010, 05:03:20 AM »
Ed said he used weights and leverage, then that is what he used and I have no reason to think otherwise.  Thats why it took him 20-30 years by himself.  If he would have had any type of hydraulic or anti-gravity system it would have been completed much quicker.

GB

Well moved it in only weeks so ... yes he moved his castle .

Ed said he used weights and leverage , yes i know and said that just for you ...  :D

Mark

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #178 on: November 18, 2010, 05:39:17 AM »
Ed said he used weights and leverage , yes i know and said that just for you ...  :D

Mark

Yes, and I know Ed wrote riddles in his text just for you... :D

GB
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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #179 on: November 20, 2010, 11:16:00 PM »
iota....i must agree with you....at least in part....i like the way your mind works!......scotty, i know that you do not agree with matt but i was wondering if after harvey and glen, if you might want to check out my device.....i promise it will open your eyes!....david

Hey David. If I were you, I would try to develope it into something practical.
Many people may see "something" but to make something of it is something else....not trying to dis you or anything.