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Author Topic: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .  (Read 327458 times)

Offline Hope

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #240 on: August 25, 2011, 06:06:07 PM »
So this is my take on Ed's Wheel.  Notice how the magnets are pointing outward and the center of the bars are pointing inward?   I believe he was making a zero point in this center of magnets to attach to so he could draw from the sea of energy.  David I believe what we are seeing on your wheel of u shapes is the creation point of "all" which is near the "zero point" (destruction point) but travels outward till creation happens again.  See Walter Russell charts to understand better.

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #241 on: March 26, 2012, 12:41:20 AM »
Hello,

I have studied Edward Leedskalnin for some time, and the holistic teaching. Somebody mentioned about induction being a factor in the faster than light velocities of the magnets, and it was suggested that it was quite a troublesome deal, intercepting a packet of data/light or a physical magnet, that travels in precession to the trigger.

In any case, it was suggested that there would be a great difficulty in dealing with this, in a 'modular' 'singular' device this would be true (as afterall predicting the time the flow of the current appears is not a simple feat in terms of the induction relationship, and indeed the quadrature of the induced wave).

In this case we have the newtonian f1 force, and the reactive newtonian f2 force, and the way around, the problem presented by the faster than light, a larger assembly must be built. This might be compared to the likes of a wave guide, such as demonstrated in the works of Nikola Tesla and Oliver Heaviside.


I have more documentation if you are interested in PDF format quoting directly Jim Le Surf's work and theorising the applications of negative resistance oscillators, their meaning/importance in electrogravitics and how the f2 reactive force,  beign aligned with the newtonian f1 active force would result in a conservational runaway, whereby the balance of the force is being longitudinal directed from the transverse.

Edward Leedskalnin would consider the "Longitudinal" 291,000mi/sec (or ratio of C therafter) wave form propogations to consist of "horizontal" or "vertical" only force, and the transverse sinusoidal wave (that features a 90 degree relationship) consists of BOTH horizontal and vertical. Here we have the demonstration that Eric Dollard, Nikola Tesla and Oliver Heaviside importantly makes, including that of Keeley and Lopez, there is a CLEAR seperation in the TWO fields that dictate the operation of a transformer coil.

In this case, the maxwell theory in the state it is (without quaternions or the original derivatives), is woeful , and limited to second order differentials only, that make the erroneous and deluded assumption that the field vector of dielectric longitudinal and transverse magnetic are one, indeed, the works of Steinmetz in R. Kline's book "Steinmetz: Engineer and Socialist" revealed that they were seperate and independent forces which formed the "antithesis" of each-other. As Eric Dollard rightly points out in his SFTS (San Francisco Tesla Society) lectures tha thave been recently leaked onto youtube, the rule of law in space is different, and the growth and diminishment of waves is too.

Interestingly it was Steinmetz who discovered that high voltage, high frequency transmission lines would "asymptotically" increase their voltage with distance in AC transmission lines, this of course presented a rather difficult problem for the proper regulation of electrical circuits, one of which Steinmetz worked at length on, and it was Heaviside that worked a great deal on the equations of Maxwell, and  him too that simplified them under a significant pressure from the scientific community. Science as it exists today uses a delusive Maxwellian theory based on a perfect iron core, and the incorrect and broken assumption that the dielectric field exists "as" the magnetic field, "as one", in truth, and practical experimentation, such as the work by schauberger, grebenikov and tesla, shows they are not, and are seperate and distinct antithesis', e.g. that the cavity structure effect, and such technology represents a very real and exhaustive conclusion as to the nature of universe, life, and more, but it exists mostly beyond 2nd order differentials, Steinmetz developed an engineering/graphing language to represent AC waves, imagine a 3hz signal and a 7hz signal, in an AC phase system. I think it's clear where the peaks and troughs appear determines the superposition of the waves. Wave guide concepts important to the TMT, electromechanics, electromagnetics and electrogravitics, I would claim.

Smokey, a post I read at the beginning of this thread inspired me to share everything that I know as best I can, because it seems there are a few good men on this planet, that are willing to do the same, I shall step forward and try and give it as best as I can. There are radiation that is emitted (dot product expansion), and there is radiation that is absorbed (dot product compression). There is an expanding force and a contracting force (this is remarkably like the longitudinal force).

Gravity reveals something about electricity that is surprising. Take a metal head hammer, and smack it against a piece of metal on the planet earth hard enough, and you will get a spark, the size of that spark determines the amount of volts, and those volts were determined by the mechanical force of the hammer hitting the metal, and the resistance of the metal from the hammer (newtons laws), we see that not only does mechanical energy produce electricity, but electricity can produce mechanical energy (the difference is that between a motor and a dynamo), we also see that gravity produces the mechanical energy, otherwise there would be no weight to the hammer, and thus no f1 force, and thus no f2 reactive force.

Without gravity magnetic action, there is no mechanical magnetic action, and when there is no mechanical magnetic action there can be no electrical action, and where there is no gravity magnetic action, there can be neither.

Take a meteor or an asteroid in the vacuum of space, traveling at a constant speed, upon approaching the earth it is said to "Accelerate" as it is "caught" in the "well" or "wake" of the planets so called 'mass', regardless of mass or magnets causing this force we can see that the asteroid has ENERGY STORED, and the thing that allows the ENERGY STORED in the constant initial velocity of that meteor or asteroid (regardlesss of the acceleration caused by gravity), will require the waveforce of gravity, and the resistance of the "ground" to release that energy.

Simply with nothing to push off there is no f2.

I hope that this risk, and this work is worthwhile and one day might benefit humanity,

I also would like to say to smokey that I have the full original copy if you are still looking for it.

Note: I have been aware of this thread for sometime as it linked to my articles that I wrote at conspiracy.co, and since I have been silently watching (although not reading all of smokeys stuff, wow your good ;) ). Might I suggest, although a bit crazy, my work puts a new and interesting direction into the holistic works of the field of Solomon, the great work, and the trinity energies and CROSS PRODUCTS we deal with. Look into the sky like I do and you will see the Aether, it's "Y" factor.

I would say this, moving a mountain is no more complicated than inducting a field into an assymetric ground point thereby causing negative rotation in an unbalanced way, moving the mountain feet, or even miles. This is akin to the claim that tesla made about "cracking the earth in two", he was refering to the rotary magnetic field, the cumulative TMT effect, and the iron magma in the ground, to which pressure could be overtly forced.

It is of course no wonder that people that work with this are attacked, given such implications. I cannot communicate enough how lonely this work can be, it's burden, or how the heart weaps at the lost efforts of those such as Eric Dollard, Wilhelm Reich, Chris Carson, Scotty, Smok3y, and many others,

I wish things were different. Unfortunately they are not. Look at the work the Nazi's did with the Parametric Transformer, and the tight locality to the emergence of the 'electron technology' and the emergence of world war scenario's. Surely we would be fools to think that it was mere co-incidence, fools to think that the ancient pyramid builders civilisation whose word the Egyptians discovered and preserved in part - did not in part destroy itself, to account for the rather large gaping hole between electromagnetics and the truth about magneto dielectrics.

The fact is I am not as smart as I would like to be, but maybe that is just as well, in that, just as well I couldn't listen to the tripe I was taught during Q.E.D lessons that the "resistance in the wire" changes.

The thing that fascinated me was how I was explicitly told that measuring the voltage or amperage in a wire 100 times was "more accurate".

This truly is a great madness more than anything else, as I child I could not emphasise my bemusment, as the voltage and amperage was the physical value that was measured each time. As a musician it was not heard for me to see, that in this case "TIME" was the variable that changed. Using such techniques we merely measure the 'average' of the dielectric , the magneto dielectric, and the CROSS PRODUCTS.

I may have been infantile and stupid as a student, but today I am bold and good-sighted enough to point out to you, that this averaging of the varying resistance is a madness that physically removes the evidence of cross product fluctuations for the aether. From my exhaustive researches, it appears this was done because the Aether itself was very hard to account for, indeed, as in negative resistance oscillators, it is very had to account for the "exponential increase in energy" , and the 'source' of the reactive component, nonetheless, both exist, and it is the source of the reactive component (that comes from somewhere in the universe due to the OSC) that actually inhibits the so-called negative resistance oscillators, which by ordinary maxwellian theory alone, suggest theoretically they will cumulatively oscillate given a constant excitation whereby the losses per second are less than the constant excitation.

I'm sorry, I do waffle a lot.

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A

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #242 on: March 28, 2012, 08:54:28 AM »
It is so refreshing to read a long entry like this that hits every nail on the (proverbial) head.

Just to read that, and not find dozens of errors is refreshing in the very least.

I don't compliment often, as you all know...


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #243 on: March 28, 2012, 03:00:38 PM »
It is so refreshing to read a long entry like this that hits every nail on the (proverbial) head.

Just to read that, and not find dozens of errors is refreshing in the very least.

I don't compliment often, as you all know...

In the unlikely event that you might be referring to my post, might I thank you sincerely for your kind words, I did not expect it.

I wrote some music (notice the representation of the waves I use in the music to mimic a TMT (impulses per width, per time) (about 3 minutes 02). The note length per bar is reduced by n/2, and added a video presentation piece with some of commentary from Dollard and Wilhelm Reich, I think it is quite accurate, in terms of conveying to the original man where he must start, "to go on to explain" the "different set of dimensions", "velocity of light is simply an expression of the radio of energy to mass, which is a constant - not a limit".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vae8lCC_T2c#!

I hope that someone will, at sometime in the future, listen to this recording with great respect. .... That they all without any exception, are against , I say, against what I am doing. Every single one of them, slightly interferes with my effort, prophecies out, rolls out, flattens out, that one thing or another , whatever it may be, to diminish my efforts, no, to diminish the effects of my efforts, to block out the sharpness and acuity of my thoughts, to reduce to rubble and nothing, or nothingness" - Wilhelm Reich


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #244 on: April 05, 2012, 01:42:04 PM »
Hey was that reply talking to me? :)

If you want to discuss stuff more I'd be happy. I just performed some interesting experiments with magnetic current that catches the sparks rotating with the RMF , which is interesting, to say the least, and slightly confirmatory.

If only the transformer physicists knew that the reason their coil's geometry wasn't because of the left hand rule or proper 90 degree induction at all, but because the physical magnets in the wire themselves are spinning around.

That is why the best most efficient transformer will be circular, because the magnets are spinning around, and it has nothing to do with the electron rule itself, but the actual rotational movement of the substance moving around in an iron core.

I believe this is what Oliver Heaviside was researching in some depth, as well as C. P. Steinmetz (hysteresis) , maxwell quarternion's etc.

It's really quite simple, once you're able to live with these two facts.

1) Waveforms can travel at faster than C and 'merge' to form what we call C, this is the ratio of energy to mass (a cross product balanced conversational exchange. )
2) The earth itself is a giant magnet, and space a giant vacuum capacitor, and any current running in any wire, will be affected by the more dominant magnet. A motor that rotates with the sun is not a new Idea, both I and Tesla suggest it, and both I and Tesla insist at the detriment of our reputation, that other previous civilisations had, and were able to achieve such a thing either through necessity or the capacity for their observation of nature and magnetic and electric currents.

In any case this should be enough to completely transform most peoples realities, as we still believe in the delusive electron theory, when in fact the magnets was the substance pushing the 'electrons' around all along, and the transformer is only round to allow the most effective transmission of that magnet substance, if it leaves the wire the resistance is much higher, however simply the magnetic substance prefers to rotate; that is the magnets in the transformer,  regardless of the fleming right hand rule, wish to spin, and if they cannot spin, then electrons cannot be made. - (in fact the fleming rule should be thrown away for this particular area) because any other geometrical shape of the wire, will affect the magnets traversal, not the total induction (because essentially they are whirling magnets in circle like vortex fashion) - and the wire being anything other than that, will cause the magnets to escape, or to reflect. This means without doubt that it is the traversal of the magnets that is responsible for the total induction, and the total induction is responsible for the total power. Note whilst the scientists are half right: that the total induction by a magnetic current is responsible for the total power. They missed the secret of the pyramid builders, that the total induction is related to the total magnetic current; since our Transformer is magnetic, and since the electricity is also magnetic, and since the earth is magnetic, and all of the planets, proper use of these fields will require alignment on every imaginable axis.

We just need those balanced products to be unbalanced. We just need energy, or light from somewhere, on one side, and the other side will move towards it, like the planets. Remember you do not ever see the sun, you see it's reflection on the atmosphere, and that should be enough to tell you about magnets, time, and the disconnected reality,  between what created that sun in the sky (transverse reflections off non vacuum atmosphere) and what was actually there (the longitudinal component of the sun that is not visible to naked eye without reflection, because it's speed exceeds that of light).

That is probably enough ranting on,

I know I do not explain perfectly, but, I do explain. Which is more than I can say for the scientific and engineering statuses of the explanation for transformer core's. As the great Tesla once said it reads like "delusive fictional work". I cannot say anymore, because apparently for the last 100 years our best electrical engineers, including those at RCA have known that the alignment and subsequent rotation (position) of the planets relative to the earth affect quite clearly the transmission lines that they maintained.

Of course the ignorant, stupid , arrogant, physicist, who has been taught it all works like x y and z, and is not required to maintain electrical circuits with an accuracy that reflects the original maxwellian reality of quaternion (non second derivative) can continue to live inside his delusive 3 dimensional universe, and they can ignore all of those magnets axis reacting with eachother, or pretend that they understand it well, or worse that the planets and their magnets , they are isolated and apart. They are wrong, so for the rest of us we'll be picking up where the Pyramid Builders left off, and, where the Egyptians started. We'll be seeing transformers that  with a multimeter end to end, the voltage and current show 0, but inside there is so much electricity being made from the square root of -1 , one might need to be careful not to permanently terminate ones life.

Remember how thick those bits of chains were, what do you think the maximum rating for them is?

You should know with 12Volts and a high amperage car battery I'm getting sparks the length of my arm

;)


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A

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On the subject of Waves, Magnetic Current & The Bolinas Marconi Installation
« Reply #246 on: April 16, 2012, 12:57:29 PM »
The following passage is the result of many years of amateur observation, in the field of magnetic current and conductors. You will find that through my basic inspection of simple faculties such as the waves of the ocean, we are able to discover the presence of some 'cosmic force rays' emanations which account for the currents in the vast and long sea conductor in the same way as the phenomenon in long transmission lines is referred to as "Anomalous Voltages in Transformers", this cosmic 'interference' in transformers has been known for the last 100 years or so (Dollard). Whilst of course it has been known to Dollard, and a few others, there has not been a simple rational approach to prove this cosmic forces effect to the layman. Except the sea.


Of course it has been known by the engineers at RCA for almost 100 years now that planets affect the transmission in a line (Dollard). Further, alchemists and scientists have known 1000's, maybe 10's of thousands of years that the distance or phase of the moon affects the current of the huge ocean. Both are entirely independently established.

What appears abundantly clear is that nobody has put the two together yet, in the wheelwork of nature, as Tesla hinted ; the sea waves gain their additional energy via the cosmic induction of local magnetic forces, so does the long transmission wire. As both are independently established I can be thanked for merely adding the two faculties together to more readily describe a higher current. Both Ocean and Wire seem to have the same source of higher current intereference thusly, and both have had this 'external gain', or 'fluctuation variation' measured with a high degree of accuracy. This leaves the sea and the transmission line as conductors to be effected by this cosmic power. Induction being comparable to the size of a conductor and the strength of the effecting total local magnetic induction(s).

As such we may be discussing the subject or harnessing the collective power of the cosmic force in the same was as the Ocean, except in the oceans abscence a transmission line, or sea of aether being present.

Now, with this explanation there is no anomalous currents in the ocean, or in any wire and thusly there can be no anomalous waves in any transformer coil anywhere, or any anomalous voltage at all. Merely a re-interpretation was required to account for the sources of the induction, not this madness we call 'intereference'. The largest ratified conductor of great length and width would have to be the sea.


And now for the paragraph of inspiration in my mind that really inspired this thought:

"The sea being a large and long conductor body connected together, exhibits the cosmic wave forms caused by rays from outer space in the same way the first transmission lines did. The factor of strength of the induced wave current caused by outer space cosmic rays is based solely the distance of the moon from the planet, or the closest, most dominant magnetic pole. As is the wire" -

I saw someone posted an Einstein quote about reinspecting the groundwork of physics, nothing could be more important than this, especially today.



Does this mean the moon puts magnets in the Ocean as the nearest magnetic source? The same way cosmic ray interferes put's voltage in wire?

That is what I have gone at length to indicate for your further researches and pursuits..


And don't forget the Alexanderson Generator which was seized by RCA in 1914, used longitudinal waves of a speed of 291,000mi/sec, 105,000mi/sec faster than the speed of light 186,000mi/sec.

Maybe it is time to start making all kinds of light with your conductor arrangements. (I really wish and cannot fathom why there is not more interest in this). So I will take the danger of posting the truth about this technology as best I know it.

Best Wishes,
A

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #247 on: April 16, 2012, 05:02:02 PM »
@hope
@7redorbs

Based on your understandings and concepts of Leedskalnin's work how can we go about building a working device to tap into the magnetic force?

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #248 on: April 17, 2012, 12:21:07 PM »
Creating a new Working Device that employs faster than light wave speeds is not a new concept. This is something you can find in the Marconi Wireless Alexanderson Generator designed by Steinmetz's Protege Alexanderson (hence the flawless generator being named after him).

The Alexanderson Type Generator using the improved multiple loaded flat top antennae, which was subsequently removed just after WW2, there is absolutely no doubt that with it's diminished leakages and multiplicate reicrulcating currents, the Radio Aerial is capable of generating 1000's of times more powerful radio signals than a regular Rhombic Transverse D type aerial. Surely then, this must be why Eric Dollard was chased by an environmentalist group called "COMMONWEAL", and had his equipment bulldozed by a SWAT team, for the use of this type of technology. Of course, it is considered a harassment, for the sole reason that the magneto dielectric (i.e. using longitudinal waves) is vastly and infinitely superior to the fallacy that we call today the most advanced electrical technology. The Transverse system, as such must be treated as a complete joke.

The reasoning is because the Rhombic Transverse Aerial type (look it up) is a Transverse ONLY Sinusoidal wave form receiver. Whereas the Multiple Loaded Flat Top Antennae might be considered to propogate both transverse waves at 186,000mi/sec (light), and longitudinal waves at 291,000mi/sec ("another kind of light"), because at any given time in the Multiple Loaded Flat Antennae's both used by Alexanderson and Leedskalnin there is clearly more than 2nd order type currents running through it. (Given the relationship between Transverse (horizontal + vertical) and longitudinal (horizontal only) waves.)

My response, is plain, The Alexanderson Generator does all the same things with magnetic current that Edward Leedskalnin does, and that is why in 1914, it was seized from Marconi, and put away from the sights of the public at the beginning of about World War I, this is documented historically and has been under military government general rule under RCA since nog long after then. Obviously the longitudinal 291,000mi/sec propogations do not belong in the public eye since about the beginning of World War I, this does not change the irrefutable fact that both Tesla and Reich speak at length of these waves. As we know all magnetic current to run in any direction must run in the other (as in Newtons Law), however in the Multiple Loaded Flat Top Antennae, many , many, many currents are running, at different moments, forming a complex synthesis of Alternating Currents, with negligible leakage, and essentially a magnification or amplification effect over time. (Remember the load is utilised in the same way, there is no overunity, just magnetic concentration at the center, and preventing it's leakage. If anyone has wondered, this is why the Earth can spin, because more magnets hit that magnetic centre of the planet on the East.

If you had thought of the Earth as an electrical transformer,  you would see the goal of a 15 degree adjustment, and indeed, the mutual goal of the degree's 105 and 195, and, indeed, their 90 degree separation, and, if the earth a transformer, and a sun an inductor, then, you will see why the Egyptians had it right, and indeed, why the Pyramid Builders, also, had it right too.

Size of conductor is obviously important, as is the size of your FRAMING, if you increase the transformer frame size, and scale up, it becomes clear, what runs in a wire as a fluctuation is at all times being inducted by the cosmic force and the local magnetic force of the earth.

If you were to run your magnetic current in the vacuum of space, I think you might be impressed with the difference away from the local magnetic field of the earth (the ground).



Indeed, the culmination in the MLFTA of transverse and longitudinal propogations become reactive components to eachother, in the same way that the North and South Pole magnetic currents form recirprocals or antithesis of eachother. This is akin to Newtons claim that for every f1 there was a diametrically opposed f2 force in the absolute opposite vector. You could say that the longitudinal waveform and the transverse wave form, combined with a trigonometric frame of reference (and making the right multiple connections) one is able to alter the phase of the reactive f2 force, whereby it might be aligned with the f1 input force, therefore causing a 3rd derivative of "f3" whereby f3 = f1+f2 and whereby f3 consisting of f1 input and f2 reactive force on the same vector alignment, then f4 reactive force will equal f3 or f1+f2. This is a very interesting and bold statement, I would not put forward to share if I did not feel had a definite and grounded base to it.


When we re-inspect the work of Tesla at Wardenclyffe, and indeed Leedskalnin himself, and his many books , we become open to the positively true fact that the planets, or magnetic polar regions of stars, are in reality quite effecting the planet earth's ocean to gain a very large amount of energy. This derived energy in the wave's of the ocean comes positively from the nearest local magnetic influence, and, right now the closest magnetic influence is the moon. All of that energy in those ocean waves came from other planet's magnetic influence, as we established, and thusly such a wire transmission line as massive as the ocean, would indeed, be subject to the fluctuations of the planets , and the stars, in the same manner, total surface area of the conductor, and the volume, and symmetry, being key. The earth being entirely round, and consisting of 4 quadrants, and having differing permeability to the magnets of the star, we are able to see the cosmic force building up, and taking down the atoms of rock matter by this system.

This is both how Edward Leedskalnin did it, as well as the Ancient Pyramid Builders, as well as Nikola Tesla accomplished his theory. Except, in the world of wireless radio transmission, a transmission line of physical MASS of wire, is totally unrequired, since, in the sea of the aether, a similar surface area and volume to the sea, of which is receiving the same kinetic influence, is abundant in it's availability.

I do promise this is a fact, and you can start work right now, simply by following the Work of Eric Dollard and Chris Carson on the rotary electrostatic transformer, or follow the early work of the German Government and Military throughout 1914-45 study on Parametric transformation, best read Eric Dollard Wireless Power and Eric Dollard Primary & Secondary Coils to get a firmer grasp on the historic nature of radio systems, since about 1890, and the involvement of Oliver Heaviside, and the Maxwell theory as a whole.

I will save you some time, though, there are 2 versions of Maxwell. One that works for longitudinal wave propagations of 291,000mi/sec, and one that was written after, with QUATERNIONS REMOVED from it, replaced by 2nd order dervitatives vectors ONLY, therefore being totally unsuitable of representing propagations faster than 186,000mi/sec, (ignoring phase velocity), and as a result the Four Quadrant Theory of 'gravitic' or rather, magnetic lag and lead time, and electrical distribution, have been lost to the ages.


It was only after inexhaustible efforts to uncover this knowledge, and a life almost ruined to get as far as I have. The things that you ultimately have to sacrifice to understand Nikola Tesla, Wilhelm Reichs and Edward Leedskalnins work is shed this stupid idea of material gains. Part of the longitudinal component is , as well as massless, completely immaterial component, which seems to form the antithesis, or rather the dielectric longitudinal counterpart to the transverse sinsusoidal function, attained merely by distribution of a transformer alone, and usually unseperated in Transverse type systems, can be seperated into the TRANSVERSE (HORIZONTAL + VERTICAL SINE WAVE COUNTERPART) as well as the LONGITUDINAL (HORIZONTAL ONLY OR VERTICAL ONLY), as you can see by quarternion theory, the longitudinal or (push pull), 180 or 0 degree component sits on the same axis as 1 half of the Transverse wave.

The Transverse Wave shape space/time is "L" shaped.

The Longitudinal Wave Shape space/time is "I" shaped.

The I can fit into the L on two dimensions 90 degree's apart.


I hope I have said enough.


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A

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #249 on: April 18, 2012, 02:32:52 AM »
7redobes
  Good job there.You made me smile if that is any consolation to your your years of digging.There was some mention of Scotty in the past tense, did something happen to him?I was looking for his email some months ago and could not remember where I had placed it.
 Ya know at some point you'll have to give a more physical desrcription of a possible design direction.
 Dont take it too much to heart if responses are slow you gave a lot of reading material sugjestions that will be time consumming to locate.

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #250 on: April 18, 2012, 09:18:24 AM »
@ David, I've never gotten a 'locking' effect from any wiring wrap I've done. Has yours actually locked together? It should be easily testable by connecting the 'charge' wires to a small light or volt meter (neither of which I have at this time, although, I confess my interest is more in the engineering than in it's effects at this time).


My lack of results regarding a magnetic current locking things together, along with the necessity for the bolts and concrete have led me to consider that maybe it's not meant to be a pmh, but rather is a device that concentrates, separates, then gives off it's individual magnets.

Still, your wheel and what it's possibly doing is intriguing.

Anyway, I thought I'd post a few pics of my machine almost ready for reassembly. I hope any of you will feel free to tell me if I've missed something. Dimensions I can play with, but I am still having troubles identifying a few key components so I would greatly appreciate input from anyone who's been there. This is still a labor of love, but without these key components my theories wont come together. Thanks in advance!

Firstly thank you Doug, I've read many of your posts here, and am glad that I made you smile. For me there is no substitute for proper information, and now I've got it it's alarmingly entertaining listening to the gaps between Tesla' theory, and what scientists think they know about it! I appreciate sincerely that there is a requirement for me to explain further as to how the Leedskalnin wheel would operate perpetual motion. I think I can follow that lead, (forgive the electrical pun).

@rcquared do not lose faith buddy. I followed your experiments from the start. Does a glass of water exhibit waves like the ocean? Why? Now apply that theory to your device. (or See Dollards comments about OU type free energy devices over 500KVA, e.g. non small scale set-ups being basic the start of the threshold for a larger magnetic field of influence). Leedskalnin said magnets are only effective in great number, volume and surface area of your device matter, I expect.

I want to be specific, the speed that those magnets move per second, for a differential current (more than one overlay), we will need a wire of sufficient length, otherwise those north pole magnets will reach the end, and start rotating from the beginning again, before that South pole magnet goes in to chase it.

This is why long transmission lines exhibit these harmonics, because the speed of those North and South pole magnets going accross the wire, determine the polar lead time, if the wire is of an insufficient length then you will only have one type of magnet arrangement in your wire, if your wire is long, then your wheel can impress many kinds of magnets that travel around it the same time.

This is Tesla's dielectricity, and Ed was working with it in his chains, the wheel as suggested does provide those north and south pole magnets, in the wire, based on time, but those magnets we pass, they are spinning and turning at high speed, so, the length of the chain/wire is important. A small scale version might not be sufficiently long.

The ocean is long enough for dielectric currents to form because it's conductor is of sufficient length for both varied north and south pole magnets to be in it one after eachother. This is why Ed's wheel alternates between NN and SS poles, when it is rotated, over time, as to put those magnets , or lines of force into the chains where those magnets are in front of or behind eachother. Then they come back in again on the wheel like the planet earth into the "south polar" region of the wheel. The North polar and West Polar region of the wheel are terminated by wooden blocks.

I think we need to remember the African Ancients planned for this. They have passed distinct messages down to us, and in accordance with such they left phrases like "Go back and get it". Those "familiar in the art" might know what I'm talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankofa

You'll see.... ;)


“Se wo were fi na wosankofa a yenkyi,"

"It is not wrong to go back for that which you have forgotten."

Edward Leedskalnin was not wrong to go back to it either. It's all there guys, please look ;)


My belief is that Edward Leedskalnins created a larger PMH, he stretched the magnetic field in the room to each side and above his wheel, and the magnetic currents recirculate around the chains back to the wheel, and, at high speed, they form an electromagnet, whereby the magnetic wheel is sitting at the equator of the current formations, from the wheel, they continue to push the wheel, perpetually through the magnet, and would be capable of turning the mass of his magnets in the centre point of the magnetic perpetual motion holder into electricity, in the same way that the earth's north and south magnetic poles are able to generate the lightning.

Leedskalnins moral was It is easy when you know how. Recreating it is not as easy, everything must be lined up perfectly, when Leedskalnin says that I do not think he is joking, because the middle is the critical thing that changes when lining things up. Please, consider this when referring to "Centre of Gravity". If TT Brown did it, maybe, Leedskalnin had a reason for his secrecy too.


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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #251 on: April 22, 2012, 02:41:16 PM »
Hi guy's......felt my ears twitching.  ;D
I haven't been around much due to my wife leaving, and i have to look after my son. Not much time for anything else these days.  :(
I'm just getting back into my experimental work now.
I actually saw a link to this thread on my facebook so i thought i better come see.
Saw my name mentioned and thought i better check in.  ;)
All of my work is gathering dust in my shed, which is a total mess right now!!!
Hopefully i can get back into the swing of things again this year.......maybe i'll find someone else who has done Ed's experiments????
The pmh is one thing, but the complete set of experiments and extrapolation is another.
Ed and Tesla had the same radio theory...more or less.....although Tesla didn't believe in 2 currents, or 2 electricities.....none the less their radio theories are the same concerning the propagation of currents through the ground.
@redorbs....it is interesting that Tesla described the propagation of ground currents at high speed as similar to the passage of the moon's shadow over the Earth....considering your posts.  ;)
I don't talk about Ed much these days....keep to myself on the subject because it is just too hard to describe something that isn't in line with most people's thinking.
For example....Ed said the magnets are the real life....try explaining that to everyone...hahahaha....it can't be done in a post or two.
Anyways...i'm still very much alive and kicking....will try to keep up from now on.
Thanks for the mention.  ;D
Scotty outooooooooooo
 

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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #252 on: April 23, 2012, 01:45:43 AM »
For those that enjoyed my previous posting, To make clear my suggestions further, here is a quote from Gary Peterson on the N6KPH yahoo usergroup, I hope he doesnt mind me reposting his comments on Tesla's wireless transmission crystal set. A remarkable conclusion is drawn, there is a field from the ground, and a field propagating in the aether. One is Clockwise? the other Anticlockwise?

This gets into counterspace, as Eric Dollard calls it, and involves framing in the exact engineering scenario that is described by Gary Peterson below. I hope it is well met by overunity members on this thread ;) Thanks for the positive response I really appreciated it ;)



A pair of waves are engendered [that is to say,  theoretically, two propagation modes are excited] by the 50 kW A.M. radio station near Landers, CA and its quarter wave-length vertical monopole with 120 quarter wave ground radials (tower and star radials).  One wave, Hertzian, is the over ground wave [TEM space wave], the other wave, the Telluric [LMD TM terrestrial conductor transmission line wave], is the underground wave.  These two waves arrive at the point of reception in their own distinct time frames, giving rise to a difference in phase.  Hence, multiple rings of interference patterns are produced.  Since the Hertzian portion, over ground, time frame is based upon the velocity of light [C], then the Telluric portion, underground, time frame gives the Telluric velocity, [which may be C x pi/2].
 
Two different types of wireless receivers or wavmeters are used to make this determination.  One has a quarter wave-length vertical monopole antenna with multiple shallow 16 AWG to 80 AWG bare copper ground wires 15 feet long in a star radial configuration, at its base.  No ground rods are used in construction of this underground counterpoise structure.  Better yet, an ungrounded magnetic loop radio antenna is used to assure the instrument is more sensitive to the over-the-ground TEM spacewave emissions of the A.M. broadcast transmitter.
 
The other is configured as a refined Tesla coil true wireless system receiving transformer with an adjustable elevated terminal and, offset some distance to one side, a single deep ground rod terminal electrode that is connected to the bottom of the helical resonator receiving element with a heavily insulated ground wire.  It is  otimized in this way for the reception of 'non-radiating' emissions that propagate from the A.M. broadcast transmitter to the receiver underground with an associated above ground charge-coupled electric field.  This type grounding is necessary for Tesla coil transmitting and receiving transformers to operate properly.

A dual trace oscilloscope connected to both of the receivers is used to observe the relative phase shifting of the two transmitted waves.
 
Hertz Wave Receiver     Tesla Coil Receiver
 
Magnetic Loop Antenna 

The advantage of this experimental protocol is that no authorization to operate a wireless transmitter is required; an already licensed transmitter provides the power.  We have the good fortune in the "Initiative" that, in theory at least, a quarter wave A.M. broadcast tower, and its 120 quarter wave ground radials, must emit a pair of waves as shown by Tesla in his basic diagrams.




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Re: Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .
« Reply #253 on: April 23, 2012, 10:52:51 PM »
 Hay scotty
 long time no hear.
 Had a thought but I let it go.Nah not really,but it has been a couple days since. I was wondering if you ever placed a rogowski coil around the ends of the "U" section of the PMH.

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« Reply #254 on: April 25, 2012, 06:16:18 AM »
Hi Doug....never tried that before, although the pmh itself acts like a detector simply because it is so large....mine always shows a small ac current running in it due to the surrounding ac fields from the grid (I think).

@Redorbs, do you have a link to the info you posted. I'd like to see a drawing ect to get a better idea of the setup. It's alot to visualise on its own but i have a rough idea.  :)
Scotty.