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Author Topic: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization  (Read 75552 times)

Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2010, 06:46:21 AM »
This one is to help someone to try the idea posted above by @freeenergy.

Jesus

thanks for the help i needed that. :-)

im not even sure what type of copper wire to use.

i was thinking of building your suggested modified diagram, could you list part names/numbers and where i can buy? ebay?


so far i have ordered 4 Neodymium N50 Magnets 1 x 1 inch Cylinder Rare Earth.

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2010, 02:17:14 PM »
@freeenergy

All the parts needed can be gotten at Radio Shack
Maybe the more expensive is the 555 ic and the wire.

If you want lots of voltage, choose a 30awg or less wire.
If you want more amperage, choose a 26awg or higher.

You can use 26awg on the pulser and 30awg on the pick coil.

Remember I am a newbie also.

Jesus

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2010, 07:51:26 PM »
This one is to help someone to try the idea posted above by @freeenergy.

Jesus

Hi Jesus,

Would you mind inserting a series capacitor in the wire of the coil that goes to pin 3 of the 555?  The electrolytic cap positive leg goes to pin 3 (where the LED goes too) and the cap's negative leg goes to the coil wire, the coil's other end goes down to the battery negative as shown.

Without the capacitor the coil's DC resistance (just a few Ohms or less) directly short circuit pin 3 to the negative battery point, making huge current flowing out of pin 3 continuosly, the pulses cannot defeat this huge current, hence the 555 may burn.

Thanks,  Gyula

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2010, 07:51:26 PM »
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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2010, 08:56:21 PM »
Hi Jesus,

Would you mind inserting a series capacitor in the wire of the coil that goes to pin 3 of the 555?  The electrolytic cap positive leg goes to pin 3 (where the LED goes too) and the cap's negative leg goes to the coil wire, the coil's other end goes down to the battery negative as shown.

Without the capacitor the coil's DC resistance (just a few Ohms or less) directly short circuit pin 3 to the negative battery point, making huge current flowing out of pin 3 continuosly, the pulses cannot defeat this huge current, hence the 555 may burn.

Thanks,  Gyula

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2010, 09:25:39 PM »
well im no electrician, or anything like that. sorry but i dont really know how to read a circuit diagram too good, i know a few symbols like a diod symbol, the ground symbol, etc. maybe if you can label each part i can have a better understanding.

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2010, 09:33:28 PM »
well im no electrician, or anything like that. sorry but i dont really know how to read a circuit diagram too good, i know a few symbols like a diod symbol, the ground symbol, etc. maybe if you can label each part i can have a better understanding.

I will do a new circuit with @gyulasun recomendations of the capacitor's right position and with the part names, as soon as I get all the information.

Jesus

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2010, 10:04:59 PM »
Hi Jesus,

Thanks for your activity.  The number 2 position is what I described, polarity is ok as is. The positive capacitor end goes directly to pin 3, as the led cathode leg does too, ok?

Gyula

EDIT cap is about 47uF 50V or 63V rated.

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #52 on: August 03, 2010, 10:14:20 PM »
Hi Jesus,

Thanks for your activity.  The number 2 position is what I described, polarity is ok as is. The positive capacitor end goes directly to pin 3, as the led cathode leg does too, ok?

Gyula

EDIT cap is about 47uF 50V or 63V rated.

Thank you @gyulasun.

Jesus

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #53 on: August 03, 2010, 10:24:47 PM »
Yes, that is ok now. 

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2010, 06:33:03 AM »
A well made video and very good craftsmanship on the device construction.

A few things:

1. Near the beginning he demonstrates the concept by running the device in the vertical position - this incorporates gravity into the equation.
But all other runs/tests are shown in the horizontal position.
It would seem for it to run well this way it would need a much larger flywheel for that 1/2 cycle.

2. He expresses confusion over the disconnect between the voltage/current draw - early/large voltage spikes relative to current draw.
Seems he's not considering the impedence of his large ohm coil.
(and isn't getting accurate current readings as it shows a constant .4 amps)
Setting up a large capacitor bank, running it from that for a short period, and then comparing the start/finish charge of the bank would be an accurate way to determine power consumption.
(edit): or even use a Watt's Up Meter - $60.  These things are way cool and I think alot of people could make great use of them:
http://www.powerwerx.com/tools-meters/watts-up-meter-dc-inline.html

3. While the coil will *produce* power on the 'off' cycle (as the magnets retreat), it will still suffer from our old nemesis Lenz, so don't see how you can get the full power back from it that you put in to it (even including capturing coil collapse)- *especially* in the horizontal position.

Some good workmanship and good presentation, but still lacking on details and don't see it being OU, especially from a horizontal position.  Needs to be orientated in the vertical to include gravity to maximize the theory IMO.

Would like to hear more from him.

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2010, 11:31:52 AM »
------------EDIT-------------

* 4 Neodymium Magnets 1 x 1 inch Cylinder N50 Rare Earth.

thanks guys for all your help.
just to make sure will the 555 ic pulse vice versa polarities right? +-/-+
to start things simple i will build something like this:
« Last Edit: August 06, 2010, 12:31:00 PM by FreeEnergy »

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2010, 11:31:52 AM »
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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2010, 01:00:21 PM »
i will probably try to test this out first:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDELb8JcI0Q
listen to what he says "it gets faster", "batteries charge up".
how does this thing work exactly with the wiring, positive and negative connections?

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #57 on: August 06, 2010, 07:17:38 PM »
The pulse connection is wrong. The correct one is:

Jesus

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #58 on: August 07, 2010, 09:11:28 AM »
i did a small change again to the diagram but no picture this time :-)
i bought Magnet Wire 30 Gauge AWG 3200 Feet Enameled Copper 200C and Magnet Wire 26 Gauge 325 Feet Coil Enameled Copper 200C from ebay. should be here by next week.

next i will buy the 555 IC!

lol i hope i know what im doing lol
 i already chipped my new magnets by not being careful and hurt my finger, oops! minor incident, could of been a lot worse! 

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Re: Working Magnetic Overunity Device - Magnetic Neutralization
« Reply #59 on: August 07, 2010, 09:29:50 AM »
i am getting a bunch of different types of 555s on ebay, could you see what's a good 555ic for me to buy on ebay? and maybe the rest of the parts? :-)


 

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