here is a thread for theists like techstuf to vet their deity...

since someone created a thread specially dedicated to this subject,
i guess this is the perfect place to spill the beans.


i think that "most" of the humans living on this planet,
have a soul.

this soul is very similar to a quartz crystal.
but instead of being made out of silicon and oxygen,
this soul crystal is made out of pure energy.

a firearm cannot damage this soul with bullets.
but electromagnetic thoughts and feelings,
can reshape this energy-crystal.

either expanding this soul constructively,
or damaging it heinously (farrah day's out of control typing-claws).



nuclear radiation can shatter this soul crystal.
so that the agonized pieces have to be found and reassembled,
by higher density individuals.

but who cares about that branch of the subject !



over time,
layers are grown onto the soul crystal.

over billions of years,
and millions of reincarnation,
what started as a grain of sand,
eventually grows into a quartz crystal,
which is the size of a large house.

the soul started out understanding nothing,
but EVENTUALLY comes to understand everything.



so that eventually,
when the universe has grown too old and stagnant,
a fully grown soul crystal leaves the universe it evolved in.

and starts a new universe elsewhere.
where the developed soul crystal breaks off small chunks of itself,
to create trillions of sand-sized soul-crystals.

just like it itself started as a grain of energy-sand.
small,
powerless,
and not understanding jack about squat.



the developed soul crystal,
then manages the development,
of its trillions of offspring.

so that their layering progresses,
as quickly and painlessly,
as reasonably possible.

so that after billions of years have passed,
each of those grains of soul-sand,
have themselves grown to be the size of a large house.

then each of those trillions of house sized soul crystals,
leaves the universe they formed in,
and each one creates their own new universe,
somewhere else.



and so on,
and so on,
and so on.
forever and ever.

and there are so many universes created,
that NOTHING will ever be able to destroy them all.



but even if some farrah-jerk did destroy them all,
with her typing-claws,
than eventually new soul crystals would form out of the chaos.

to perfect the process of constructively growing themselves.
until we ended up with the exact same process that we have now......



i think that "god" exists.
but that it is just an extremely old soul crystal,
who started way before our souls started.

billions of years ago,
god was just as stupid and foolish as any of us are.

and he/it got so tired of the layer of reality that we live on,
that he/it has little to do with us directly.
do to the boredom factor.

that he/it only takes action to effect us,
when it is very important to our development,
for he/it to do so.



and in a few billion years from now,
we will have become exactly like god is now.

and we will all go off,
start our own universe,
create countless little idiot cronies,
and beat the shit out of them with the karmic system,
until each one of them is also the equal of "god".



my theory might paint a long and boring view of reality.
but it has got to be better,
than main stream religions track record.



"god" is just us, but was around sooner.
and they just want us to grow our understanding and wisdom.

I know you started this , but maybe you used the wrong term:

vetting;

 Vetting is a process of examination and evaluation, generally referring to performing a background check on someone before offering him or her employment, conferring an award, etc. In addition, in intelligence gathering, assets are vetted to determine their usefulness.

so in a sense the other guy who posted gave his opinion on a background check about gods usefulness.....not to say it may not be fact, but what kind of facts do you offer

I contend that no one on this planet can offer any real facts, and vetting an unknown is not a worthwhile project

Nonetheless I do believe in a higher intelligence/power/god if you will , but it is more of the same view as some more enlightened people

in the expanse of the universe there is an abundant supply of pure energy (not potential) ....all atoms show us this.

I believe also that higher power exist as such, and that our soul/consciousness is also of that pure energy.....only while inside of us , it does have potential

 from wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_energy

In physics, potential energy is the energy stored in a body or in a system due to its position in a force field or due to its configuration

so a "god" energy would not be contained in a body, only once that same pure energy is captured ( somehow) could it begin to take form and shape

so I ask you....how do you do a background check on something that has no form

you got me.....flaws

all kinds of flaws in the traditional god

also...no facts to confirm

11:11
i repeat, this thread is specially dedicated to the subject of VETTING god. what you 'think' god is does not qualify.
if you have some material evidence or a logical proof, great! present it. why is this so difficult? it's only one deity to vet, it's not like i am asking you to vet all 1,111 of your 'spirit guardians'...

thank you for your cooperation.

farrah day is a female british person,
with a mean-streak as wide as the atlantic ocean.

even by the historical standards of the average british person,
her viciousness is in the excess.



farrah day is known for committing the most heinous psychological attacks imaginable,
on this forum.

she has found a way to soak her words in cyanide,
before posting them.



she/it projects her personal opinion onto others,
as if she/it is the only valid mind that exists.

yet utterly fails to listen to others.
beyond the amount of listening that it takes,
to invent a new way,
to scrag other peoples minds.



i don't know how often her typing-claws have been slashing over the last few months,
or if she hasn't finally been banned by a mod.

i've almost given up on contributing to this forum in the past,
because a presence as downright awful as hers,
appeared to be tolerated here.

11:11, you need 911.

care to elaborate on your opinion ?
or are we to assume that you have no constructive opinion to share ?

Hi everyone.  An interesting subject.  If I had to try and prove that God existed I'd probably point to the fact that there appears to be an existence of matter and the possibility is therefore that there was some 'cause' to generate that matter.  And then - perhaps that 'cause' is God?  But it's all pretty bewildering.  Frankly I think it takes enormous courage not to believe in God.  And probably a fair helping of courage to believe in a personal God. All that supervision.  The attack on the unco-operative conscience.  Not a happy thought. Brave reach here guys.  I'm of the opinion that this 'gift' of life, if such it is, and if it is not a happy accident - is actually something that I'd rather do without.  It's way too 'gravity bound'.  And way too much tedium in those daily imperatives.  I'd rather propose that there was a radical design flaw if we've really been created.  Hopefully evolution will eventually put things right and make things more bearable.  Meanwhile - if there is a personal God out there?  Then I confess - I've lost the plot.  Pretty lights in the night sky and some wonderful views of this our earth.  But dear me.  I've seen enough of both.  And human nature?  That's a misnomer.  There seems to be very little that's natural in humans.  We've become as overspecialised as the dinosaurs.