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Author Topic: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life  (Read 5923 times)

Offline Dan153

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I have an idea to promote your powerfull WORKING PM motor with a COP >2 or more without being a treat to big companies.

Redesign your PM motor so the COP is just enough to power a fan or a clock, COP 1.1, post it on YouTube, advertise it a much as possible, make it big so people will be interested to make a WORKING PM motor, you will not be a treat to big companies because the HP/weight/cost ratio is too small.

When you have a well established community and a blog that make your design, PUBLISH the modifications to the same design that will make it powerfull, make sure that your modification is easy to make, so people who already invested in making your design will not have to redo one but just add the modification, and Voila !!!

Dan,

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2010, 07:31:25 PM »
I have an idea to promote your powerfull WORKING PM motor with a COP >2 or more without being a treat to big companies.

Redesign your PM motor so the COP is just enough to power a fan or a clock, COP 1.1, post it on YouTube, advertise it a much as possible, make it big so people will be interested to make a WORKING PM motor, you will not be a treat to big companies because the HP/weight/cost ratio is too small.

When you have a well established community and a blog that make your design, PUBLISH the modifications to the same design that will make it powerfull, make sure that your modification is easy to make, so people who already invested in making your design will not have to redo one but just add the modification, and Voila !!!

Dan,
I would think that any overunity device is a treat to the industry. You dont have to be smart to foresee the potential in a COP 1.1 machine. Have you got this far, the road is short to a more powerful one.

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2010, 07:56:20 PM »

I always thought a good way is to design a solid overunity design
but have a "secret" jumper wire that causes the unit to behave fairly
normally. Then build it in as part of a popular machine. Once the machine
has shipped thousands of units, publicly announce the presence of the
jumper setting.  ;D

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2010, 07:56:20 PM »
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Offline FatChance!!!

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2010, 08:06:56 PM »
I have an idea......

Don't we all and once the "idea" is finally built and tested we end up having null and zilch.  8)

I've been around to long to see that any OU claims by an "idea" never works due to ignorance.
But please keep trying. ;D Perhaps our descendants will reach the goal far far into the future.  ::)
Or maybe not.  :'(

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2010, 09:05:14 PM »
I think that 2 things help an inventor to keep inventing after so many deceptions: - A personnal desire to make it, - Tell somebody about it if it works

With OU machine, it become a treat to mention it, "the second law of thermodynamics rules here", so even if we have something, people will think of a hoax (I know theres many fraud, that doesnt help), next big companies will not let you promote your OU machine, for obvious reason.

What is OU machine, how could it be possible to meet the 2nd law with OU machine?

The term OU is wrong, it should be "It will run until no energy available", a tank filled with compressed air will have a motor running for x minutes, the sun will be there for x millions of year, magnets lose their magnetism 1%/10yr,

So it is possible to make a permanent motor with magnets, but it will last only 100yrs before we need to replace the magnets for peak performance.

Magnets behave differently than normal Newton law material, there is a way to have more than a COP of 1 with magnets, my theorical test are COP of 3 and I'm building a machine to prove it. I found that the magnet shape is very important, but again I will have many deceptions ... ha! ha! ;D

Dan,

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
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Offline mscoffman

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2010, 10:06:44 PM »

The term OU is wrong, it should be "It will run until no energy available", a tank filled with compressed air will have a motor running for x minutes, the sun will be there for x millions of year, magnets lose their magnetism 1%/10yr,


OU means that a scientist graduating in high theory from a
reputable university would not expect to find energy where
under the current conditions, you are seeing it.

Once experimentally confirmed he *will have* a scientific explanation
for it by dinner time. And his engineer buddy will have designed it into a
product by the next week. So OU is really a "never win" situation for the
inventor.

A perpetual motion machine - is still a machine, they wear out, break down
and get fiddled with. The question is when this happens can they be
brought back on-line. OU in this case implies that with analytical
analysis "did more net energy come out then went in?", while not changing
anything in the machine that scientists would consider as available
potential energy.

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2010, 10:36:33 PM »
I'm an inventor and studied mechanical movements for the last 36yrs, I never stop learning, still today, 2-4 hrs a day, but what I found is that I didnt knew much until I started studying the 1900s books, back to how it really works. Scientist specialise in theory with substential litterature to prove it, inventors need to prove their theory by making it.

p.s: I buy my magnets from http://www.magnet4sale.com/home.php good prices and choices, if anyone have another one to propose.

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
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Offline Dan153

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2010, 11:08:27 PM »
I found 3 different magnet movements on a particular shape magnet that gives me a ratio of 10:1, 6:1 and 5:1 versus the counter force, minus 10-15% friction, on a axial, semi axial and chain slider output. I'm modelling on Solidworks but dont have the magnetism module, I made a simple axial model in acrylic with 2 lbs/force magnets but the friction is too much, my 30 lbs/force magnets order will arrive next week and I hope to demonstrate it. The axial model is the most powerfull one but the almost impossible one to market, 2,262 inch/sec to move 1/2 lbs at 90deg angle, for 1800 rpm it would equal to 21,600 rpm, the movement is replicated 12x per rotation with cam and roller, my axial model doesnt use cam and roller so theres a lot of friction but I will be able to make a demonstration in future weeks, it might run at 60 rpm with a lot of noise but I will have torque.

Dan, 

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2010, 11:44:47 PM »
Sorry for the pictures, this is a force of 2 1/4 lbs versus the counter force of 1/2 lbs, since I didnt have cam and roller I used springs but they have a tension of 1/2 lbs, but with the 30 lbs/force magnets it will work, I hope ... ha! ha!  ;D

Dan,

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2010, 01:25:20 AM »

Interesting topic title...."How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life".   Actually, consider the lives of others.  Such a device would no doubt accelerate things, or to be more accurate, the decline of things, considerably.  As a long time subscriber to "Distributed Energy" magazine, and considering the plethoric data available, I'm inclined to believe that should free energy be allowed to proliferate, War like we've never seen would soon follow.....Of course, I'm not saying it won't anyway.  Most are unaware of the war that's been raging for some time now, of the most pernicious and cowardly kind.

To each his own.

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I always thought a good way is to design a solid overunity design but have a "secret" jumper wire that causes the unit to behave fairly normally. Then build it in as part of a popular machine. Once the machine has shipped thousands of units, publicly announce the presence of the jumper setting.

Wouldn't that beat all?  The catch 22 is that it would have to be done via existing channels of distribution to be of true impact, given the lateness of the hour.  And how many of those channels do not worship the money power or it's father directly?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l39XsMcyvgA


I for one, think it's pretty impressive that a book compiled over thousands of years and completed thousands of years ago, could be so very accurate in describing those in power in our day, describing their military strength and ability, social, religious and economic infiltrations and exploitations....even down to requiring a mark to buy or sell.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs

How long are you parasitized, paralyzed consumers going to suffer such fools without responding with utter public condemnation and reproach?  The time for you to stand UP and be counted among the redeemable is drawing to a close....You'd best hurry or pay the consequences!

Consider the following as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkxiEZkcfxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N247hFKYJaw


Blessings in Christ Yeshua and quit fearing for your lives!


"He that would save his life will lose it.  He that would give up his life for my sake, shall save it."  Christ Yeshua

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2010, 02:59:33 AM »
Interesting topic title...."How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life".   Actually, consider the lives of others.  Such a device would no doubt accelerate things, or to be more accurate, the decline of things, considerably. ...

Blessings in Christ Yeshua and quit fearing for your lives!

"He that would save his life will lose it.  He that would give up his life for my sake, shall save it."  Christ Yeshua

Reality check here .... what have man have become, we have to hide in secret to share our ideas to help this world .... when Tesla built his tower to give free energy to poor country, JP Morgan said "where are we going to put the meter " and then destroy the tower,

Watch Fahrenheit 911 again, Democracy is good but now its more Socialist society which control the people with fear for the 1% Elite Capitalist to get richer.

The earth is very sick and polluted, Gulf of Mexico oil spill, why not go to Hawaii island, stick a U shape Tungsten tube in the lava until we reach 1800F (the top lava is at 650F), pump evaporated sea water on one side and collect at least 20% HHO on the other side (20% HHO seperation at 1750F), remove the 80% steam and put it back again, real green gas and easy to get.

The bible says: "Work, pay your tax, conform to God but do not conform to the people"

Dan, or Daniel with the lions,

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Re: How to promote your working PM motor without fearing for your life
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