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Author Topic: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder  (Read 266886 times)

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #870 on: November 11, 2010, 12:22:05 AM »
I do not know much about your invention, but I do know about patents.  Applying for a patent on something is sort of the opposite of putting it in the public domain.  It sends the message of "hands off."

Why didn't you just publish it?  With a public disclosure, after about a year, the invention becomes unpatentable.  I understand you didn't know about the Internet (was it 1985?)   You do not have to publish on the Internet - it can be a journal or some other kind of periodical.  But it has to be publicly available.

But anyway, why don't you guys decide whether the invention works before having this big fight over it?  Also, I do not even see how it can be taken away from you.  Why don't you just do your work on it, and let the other people do whatever they want?


Your comments needed repeating. And it was 1998 when the first patent submission was made.
Any whoooo, readers have been waiting for the new testing results from the Trade School but she says she will not post them because she thinks Glen and Harvey will steal them. Does she understand what OPEN SOURCE is? And really, once she came to OU.com after being banned from EF.com you would think she would just make a fresh start of it all. But no, she states her intentions in the first comment of this thread and then in reply#3 she starts in on her bad mouthing again that continued on from there.
So when will NEW results come out? Don't know. She could not answer GADH questions on the circuit when he started building one back in EF.com forum before she was banned. So he went into the Mosfet Heater Thread to get his questions answered there by the guys. He is still working on it and so far no positive results but he at least posts what results he is getting.
I believe 2 people expressed interest in the very beginning of this thread in building the circuit and I don't know why they didn't carry on through? Maybe no help from Rosemary? Her interest is only in her thesis? Maybe if they are still reading here they can tell us why?

 ???
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #871 on: November 11, 2010, 01:06:15 AM »
Howdy reading members and guests,


My son's given me a blog and I can't find it.  And the child is just so frantically busy at his own work that I feel guilty asking him.  But even when I get there - I will need to learn how to work it. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary


Rosemary Ainslie's -  Blog Site

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #872 on: November 11, 2010, 01:42:06 AM »
Guys.  I've just had word that even Stefan wants clarity on the patent postion.  I am really staggered that this simple fact is still not understood.

I'll try this again as clearly there's a need.  To cover this I need to cover some history.  I developed a magnetic field model.  In terms of this model it seemed that electric current was simply a magnetic field effect.  The indications were electric current could simply be generated in any inductive or conductive material.  I knew this was possibly a controversial take.  I needed to prove this.  I did this by that apparent recycling of a current back to its supply.  If more energy was dissipated than delivered then current was NOT recycled or 'stored' but REGENERATED.  That would point to an alternate energy supply.  My thesis suggests that the circuit components themselves hold that extra energy.  I was able to prove this.  But academics would not come to the party to evaluate the experiment.  However.  Industry - hands on engineers - big and small companies - ALL - were very interested.  No-one cared two hoots for the thinking that required this clear over unity result.  They only wanted that experiment. 

I'm not the brightest button in the box - but even I could see where that interest was pointing.  I have NEVER given a 'black box' demonstration.  I EXPOSED the circuit.  Therefore I HAD to protect it from all that obsessive interest and all those greedy glints that were evident EVERYWHERE.  I needed to patent that circuit lest anyone other than me zap it.  I took really good legal counsel and was advised as follows.  'If you patent the device - BUT DO NOT REGISTER IT - then it is deemed to have been put in the public domain'.  Intellectual property that is put into the public domain is considered UNPATENTABLE.  Therefore would I NOT ONLY manage to make the knowledge public - but no COMPANY OR INDIVIDUAL OR CONGLOMORATE OR CORPORATION would be able to zap all that control of all that potential energy.

To the best of my knowledge there is ABSOLUTELY NO REGISTERED PATENT - and in the final thrust of these applications I also was privileged to use the very best of legal counsel to ensure that the most - if not all - these methods of getting this extra energy - would be entirely covered.  I have ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST IN SECURING ANY KIND OF ROYALTIES FROM THIS TECHNOLOGY OR ANY OTHER TECHNOLOGY THAT I MAY UNCOVER.  I am not even tempted.  I would be sorry to find any such association with capitalising on that potential abundance - that I see very clearly - ever being owned by anyone.  I would consider it a gross abuse of a God Given benefit.  And again.  My ONLY interest is to advance those insights.  It's really, really lonely knowing about all this and simply not being able to explain that thesis better.  But I'm working on it.  That's where the real fascination lies.  Trust me.  These applications that we've managed thus far - are REALLY REALLY BORING.

Regards,
Rosemary

and btw.  The blog that Glen posted - that was put there by my brilliant son.  But he - like me - loosely and OFTEN referred to PATENT where we should have referred to PATENT APPLICATION or better still - UNREGISTERED PATENT.  The concept has so little interest for either of us that the existence of the PATENT was often referred to lest anyone think they can steal it.  We should have referred to the existence of an UNREGISTERED PATENT - which would have been more accurate.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #873 on: November 11, 2010, 02:03:25 AM »
@Glen.  This blog is entirely inaccessible to either of us as we've lost the password to get back into it.  It's been there that long.  When I refer to blog - I mean a new blog.  And I have now been able to find it.  And by the way - the new blog will not be accessible to either you or harvey or any other trolls as I will have the right to delete any comments that I do not think furthers this study. 

I will put on record that had you and Harvey and Ashtweth NOT embarked on this desparate path to steal this technology - then I assure you that the news of that replication would have been reverberating around the world.  You have done your own reputation and your own work absolutely NO GOOD WHATSOVER.  And you have both, yet again - delayed some urgent and good news to serve your own nefarious purposes. 

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #874 on: November 11, 2010, 03:03:02 AM »
@Truthbeknown.  It seems that you've managed to reach the dizzy heights of more than a 'one liner'.  You remind me of a certain cat lady who moved her bulk around various forums with all the stealth of a hippopotamus in the grips of a gravity fall.  The brevity of those comments were required to compensate for her enormous efforts to resist all that downward pull around all that voluminous bulk.  LOL.  Certainly there are echoes and echoes of 'super troll' written in that post of yours.  If I didn't know better I'd be inclined to think that Dr Dark Lee Menacineg was lurking there in those dusty corridors of your mind.  I rather thought you, youself could only manage to marshall one thought at a time.  Anyway.  There's no telling what heights of verbosity can be managed with the help of a ghost writer.  And may I applaud your ponderous efforts - yet again - to change the subject.

And more to the point - let me indulge you with a reply.  Gad is NOT a member of this forum.  Nor does he contribute to this thread.  And I believe he's been rather superbly misdirected in his stalwart efforts by Harvey.  Unfortunately Harvey has now tried to make this a 'common cause'.  This need to guide Gad to the required resonance.  In as much as Gad will then refer back to Harvey - then I will possibly find myself in the middle of a conversation that I would really rather do without.  Should Gad wish to read here - then I have covered his question in multiple posts.  It is IMPOSSIBLE to find the required resonance unless you have the required scope meter.  When this is to hand Gad will find the required resonance as easily as day follows night.  All that is required is that the tuning is done with the scope across the shunt and with reference then to the DC coupled voltage value across that shunt.  When it defaults to zero or thereby - then one's hit a home run.  I have advised him of this in a private email.  And after this post I will NOT enter into a discussion of this with YOU or with HARVEY or with anyone else.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #875 on: November 11, 2010, 03:27:16 AM »

Your comments needed repeating. And it was 1998 when the first patent submission was made.
Any whoooo, readers have been waiting for the new testing results from the Trade School but she says she will not post them because she thinks Glen and Harvey will steal them. Does she understand what OPEN SOURCE is? And really, once she came to OU.com after being banned from EF.com you would think she would just make a fresh start of it all. But no, she states her intentions in the first comment of this thread and then in reply#3 she starts in on her bad mouthing again that continued on from there.
So when will NEW results come out? Don't know. She could not answer GADH questions on the circuit when he started building one back in EF.com forum before she was banned. So he went into the Mosfet Heater Thread to get his questions answered there by the guys. He is still working on it and so far no positive results but he at least posts what results he is getting.
I believe 2 people expressed interest in the very beginning of this thread in building the circuit and I don't know why they didn't carry on through? Maybe no help from Rosemary? Her interest is only in her thesis? Maybe if they are still reading here they can tell us why?

 ???
J.


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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #878 on: November 11, 2010, 03:37:16 AM »


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Dr Dark Lee Menacineg?  Do we meet again?

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #879 on: November 11, 2010, 04:14:47 AM »
Guys,  apologies for quoting myself.  It's something that Truthbeknown and Glen rely on for self promotion.  But this is not a self promotion exercise.  It's for purposes of due record. 

It seems that I have been guilty of name calling.  Since this is the only post that I know of where I may have indulged the occassional epithet - then let me copy it lest the post is deleted and the essential message with it. 

I believe any of the criticisms in my other posts are allowable as those more damning attributes that I may have accidentally stumbled upon, are really only pointed at someone that I used to brush shoulders with some time back in the past.  More in the nature of rambling and digressing.  It's not obligatory, I hope - to always stick to the topic.  LOL

Regards,
Rosemary

What the hell are you doing if not trying to divorce me from my own work and to what end?  There is ONLY ONE CONCLUSION.  And we've all reached that conclusion.  Otherwise I must conclude that you waste hours of my time and your own in your desparate attempt to malign me for the fun of it.  As a rule people do not indulge in such CRAZY activities at such an enormous expense of their time and trouble.  What are you thinking?  What other possible conclusion is there to reach?  You have given us ALL the evidence required that you will do just about ANYTHING to destroy this work.

You KNOW that there is absolutely NO REGISTERED PATENT EXTANT ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.  You KNOW that this was applied for for purposes of using the public disclosure of the patenting office to put the technology into the public domain.  I KNEW NOTHING OF THESE  FORUMS OR OF THE INTERNET.  I HAD NO OTHER MEANS OF GETTTING THIS KNOWLEDGE INTO THE PUBLIC DOMAIN TO RENDER IT UNPATENTABLE.  But what is particularly hard on the stomache is that you DARE to assume that the readers here think - FOR EVEN ONE MOMENT - that this technology is patented.  And you pretend and pretend and pretend.  You insinuate.  You imply.  You post links.   You ENTIRELY underestimate the intelligence of either the members or the readers of this forum.   It is insulting to see such transparent motives rendered with the subtleties of a sledgehammer and you assume that all an sundry cannot see what it is you are doing.  It is that embarrassing that it makes the toes curl.  What you need to do as a matter of extreme urgency is show a REGISTERED PATENT in my name or any member of my family's name.  Then I promise you my attention will be RIVETED.

No-one reading here needs to be reminded of the definition of intellectual property ownership with the possible exception of yourself.  One day I trust you and Harvey will explain the niceties that you discovered in your own replication that elevated it to something that was not a replication.  Something to do with the fact that you never quite reached COP>17.  LOL.  And then the added insult of seeing those jokes of data test 14 through God knows what - where you conveniently discovered a mistake.  WHY?  WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE?  WHAT IS THE MOTIVE?  I know perfectly well that the intention is to cast doubts on the result and then - no doubt - you will pull out a brand new discovery from under those two horns that protrude from your head.

I cannot tell you how an inventor can manage so much with such little knowledge and so little intelligence - but I suspect it's because the circuit's that EASY that my granddaughter could manage it.  What's not so easy is the methods of driving that switch.  Fortunately - there are MANY SWITCHING CIRCUITS on the internet - free and for the taking - that one does not need more than the ability to read.  And it is my mission to prove that an ABSOLUTE IGNORAMUS - SUCH AS MYSELF - can manage this.  That way, those others who are NOT trained in electronics - can get the confidence to put this together themselves.  I am very PROUD of my inabilities.  I share it with many.  And unlike you and Harvey et al - I am most ANXIOUS to assure all that you do not need to be Einstein to understand electricity.  IT'S ALL VERY SIMPLE AND VERY STRAIGHT FORWARD.  It's been obfuscated to the point of absurdity.  I hope to get rid of all that obfuscation.  And BTW.  While I am the first to admit to not being an expert - I have more than an adequate working knowledge - certainly for the purposes of my thesis.  And frankly I probably know as much about circuitry as you do.  Which may or may not being saying very much.  I am happy to admit to ignorance - I flinch at claiming more knowledge than I have.  I wish you'd follow this example.  It would save us all from embarrassment.

This is another one of your confusing absolutely meaningless statements - more or less as muddled as those strange links that you never tire of posting and that no-one bothers to open.  THERE IS NO REGISTERED PATENT.  WHY MUST I CLARIFY ANYTHING AT ALL?  GO AND SPEAK TO YOUR ATTORNEY.  HE COULD POSSIBLY HELP YOU.

Rosemary

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #880 on: November 11, 2010, 04:31:01 AM »
sorry - Here's another one - duly edited.

LOL.  He actually proves my point.  Thank you for that.  It seems that I don't have to dig around to substantiate my statements.  He does it for me.  Indeed those applications by Glen were precisely what delayed the research on campus.  It took a while but they eventually discovered the real reason behind Glen's interventions.  I am entirely satisfied that Glen would not even get an acknowledgement of receipt of an email today.  They've now got his number - as have Scribd.  And our lab and research project is well underway - with everyone's blessings.

Fortunately I've been able to warn all interested parties as to the extent and length that Glen will go to to kill this research.  We're all well prepared.  In fact it's precisely this level of attack that has intrigued all and sundry.  It rather speaks to a desirable technology.  Here he simply tried - very hard - to kill the research project on campus.  He found the address by rifling my photobucket.  What a joke.  I will never be able to accuse Glen of decency, moderation, upstanding high principles, kindness, or anything associated with the qualities of a professional or a gentleman.

Regards,
Rosemary

@Glen.  BTW.  You need to answer Pirate and you need to answer my own posts?  Not sure if you'll manage the real challenge of actual articulation - but I think we'd all be rather interested. 

added.  And guys.  Read away.  It's intriguing to see a so called over unity enthusiast struggle by foul means - to zap some technology that simply doesn't belong to him. Let me remind you.  It's free for the taking.  Don't let anyone kid you otherwise.  You will notice that there is no principle too high, nor for that matter too low that will EVER BE exploited by this man.

Rosemary


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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #881 on: November 11, 2010, 04:55:52 AM »
Chiming in here!     Still interested in this thread Rosie.    I like the building stuff better    :).
Your right about not needing to defend your position.   Hold the line, you'll make better progress I think.

Hello Hope.  Nice to see you around.  Of course you prefer the 'building stuff'.  We all do.  But it's like you say - there's always the need to digress - just to try and stem the troll attack.  They have plagued me from my very first month on the forums.  And had I NOT put up a stand against it then - I assure you - this technology would have been buried.

kindest as ever,
Rosie

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #882 on: November 11, 2010, 05:16:08 AM »
And Guys - at the risk of deafening you all with repetition - let me say this again.  Here's the picture.  The IEEE reject our paper.  We're a band of 7 OU enthusiasts with a considerable following on the internet.  We take that paper - UNDISPUTED EVIDENCE - and present it - as is - to a PHYSICS JOURNAL.  Now.  It actually lands in the lap of the appropriate party with all the required authority of a reference from the most impeccable of editors of the IEEE. 

They would have had two options.  Guide us into a required presentation through their review offices - OR - REJECTION.  The first option would have been impeccable means of making the the knowledge highly respectable for research at all the universities in the world.  The second option would have given us just cause to take the paper to the press and ask them to publish as we could not get comment from either the engineering experts nor the physicists.  Either way - we WIN.

And what actually happens?  Glen gets sniffy because there's reference to a thesis - Harvey gets frantic because he knows that he will have to expose his lack of credentials.  Ash gets confused because he actually doesn't fully understand anything at all.  Glen gets more frantic because Harvey's now told him that he's got a discovery.  Harvey get's even more frantic and goes to the extraordinary lengths of applying nonsense power analysis in his anxiety to throw off the scent of public interest.  Glen is still champing at the bit.  Is this his discovery?  Or what?  Get Rosie out the picture?  No problem.  I know how to FLAME.  Me?  I can do very colourful posts.  I'll get ALL HER THREADS LOCKED.  Meanwhile I'm all over the place trying to hold back the flood of attack on my character and motives and general abilities - while Glen Harvey and Ashtweth are rallying support for their imagined cruel and unusual abuses.  They appeal to every corner of the internet that will look their way and when they don't then they simply 'message' every member that they can access. 

You know what this shows?  Open source is very valuable in that ideas are shared.  But unfortunately the members are not always disciplined professionals.  And any dreams of orchestrating any such appeal will simply NOT work when so many self serving interests are at the centre of it.  I made a really BAD judgement call.  I should have simply published the paper without making it a group effort.  I was bound to be attacked - either way.  What the hell.  I'd have preferred it that the attack at least had the merit of spreading the word.  What it did was put a lid on all that effort.  And then - all that Glen and Harvey did was that rather unscrupulous effort at continuing to try and kill my own efficacy.  And frankly - I'm sick of being told how ineffectual I am.  I actually think that - on my own - I may have managed to get this to the attention of EVERYBODY.  The trouble is that I was too anxious to defer that in the hopes that I could extoll the virtues of those extraordinary efforts by Open Source members.  Else who is ever going to recognise their/your hard work.

Regards,
Rosemary

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I sincerely believe that what's going on here - in these and similar forums - is a social anomaly - a first.  The internet vehicle is becoming a kind of nursery for a burgeoning and awakening consciousness to some really new paradigms in physics.  And I sincerely believe that those experimentalists here and all over these forums are breaking ground that would otherwise lie fallow.  I also think that history will show this as one of the most interesting historical events in the entire record of our species.  It will also result in an ABSOLUTE upheaval of our traditional thinking.  I see energy being free and for the taking, trust replacing suspicion - care of others replacing self interest.  A kind of paradise.  And what's going on here are birth pangs.  AND the actual root source of this change is not out there - but right here - on these forums.  It's fun.  But right now it's also painful.
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #883 on: November 11, 2010, 06:25:35 AM »
Hi rose;
   It has been painfull for you and for those of us that would just like to see this work progress. Many of us have been watching the threads long enough to see whats really going on. Its disheartening at times to see those that were once your allies now on one hand trying to say "move along, nothing to see here" and then trying to claim this useless idea as there own work claiming I am the open source hero, this work is mine and you cant use it? Kind of strange.
    Having seen all this I don't blame you for keeping your work in house, its just not worth the grief. I hope when you do start to see results you can still post it here if not please let me know where it can be seen.
    Keep up the faith I'm still with you.
    Good Luck Pete

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #884 on: November 11, 2010, 07:12:15 AM »
Dear ALL,
due to the current flame war, that is going on here:

As I don´t have currently the time to watch this threads and
make myself up , who is telling the truth or the untruth,
I will now close the threads and let them stay online to see for all
another week and then delete them completely.

Until then you can make backup copies and fight your flame war in private
further on, if you wish to do so....

Sorry, but it is getting winter and we don´t yet have an efficient circuit to
heat our homes...it is so sad...

Regards, Stefan.

 

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