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Author Topic: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder  (Read 317903 times)

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #810 on: November 09, 2010, 01:01:03 AM »
no, he is posting quotes that are over a year old.

the date is what gives it away poynty... ;)

I was referring to this bit of Glen's post where he is talking about recent posts and events:
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I'll let Stefan handle the last past flaming posts starting at Post #803 from Rosemary about her recent banning and moderator status here at Over Unity Forum and her unfounded unproved allagations again against everyone in the world but her.  The truth hurts ......


Regards,
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Apparently as you can see, Rose has had her moderator status removed already.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #811 on: November 09, 2010, 04:04:11 AM »
Poynty - it seems that my moderator status has been removed.  What that actually means is that I will not be able to develop my thread here.  Glen will continue to flame it and the subject will be drowned in irrelevancies.  It's not a public banning - but it's the next best thing.

What worries me is that Harti is changing the forum and has already advised me that he is to delete this work.  Not only does that entirely BREACH the general commitments to Open Source and public record - but I would CERTAINLY NOT have embarked on this if I thought for one moment - that he would do this.  Yet again I've been duped.  And he would not be co-operating with Glen et al if he actually had any interest in furthering this work.  It seems very strange to me that he sees the need to do this at all.  My readership is fairly large - and I think an understanding of the concepts are growing.  So.  Why then the requirement to change anything at all?

It's amusing to see Glen faithfully recording all those posts of mine.  History really does repeat itself.  My own take is that we have a really powerful technology and - for whatever reason - this must NEVER be either fully recorded or understood.  In effect it may be advisable to download some of the posts here.  They'll have a scarcity value very soon.  And in the light of this new development - I'm inclined to think that OU.com is not really that interested in progressing clean green.  Perhaps the idea of all these forums is simply to 'take' as much as possible in order to lead in the field of this dark energy.  If self interest is the required character attribute - then indeed, GLen, Harvey, Ashtweth et all - are over qualified.  It will be an enduring shame if they are the effective 'holders' or 'representatives' of this new technology.  God knows.  They don't even understand it. 

It seems that the only thread that will be allowed to keep it's moderator status is the Joule Thief.  I'm actually really glad of this because I think it's HIGHLY desirable technology.  My own take is that they're exploiting the same 'root source' of energy as is identified in the casimir effect.  I have more than a few ideas how to 'up the ante'.  But I'll discuss this privately with Pirate - as I am entirely satisfied that he is CERTAINLY committed to clean green and all that is lacking at the moment is the 'volume' so to speak.  I also think that lasersaber's drive to run that motor without any water - will be a significant development.  One hopes that they will not then be hounded as I have been.

Kindest regards,
Rosie.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #812 on: November 09, 2010, 04:04:30 AM »
Stefan is not stupid, the EF.com banned Rose cause of her behavior after being asked to take any personal crusades off the forum (which were nothing to do with us BTW) was ignored. Stefan also wants none of this nonessential blabber in this forum.

Mean time, we have all been doing open source work, at the EF.com and other things, no one needs or cares for any distractions of this kind. Stefan is not stupid Rose. Neither are Glen, Harvey, Aaron, myself and others you have dealt with who all say the same thing.
Thats the last post of this kind i am doing. I feel for Glen/Harvey and Aaron, they could of been light years ahead with their open source  work if they had not had to deal with this mess, i have been watching. Those who want to work, i suggest you display this trait now. Rose wont be doing this mess for much longer. I Have a lot of work to do BTW.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #813 on: November 09, 2010, 04:15:54 AM »
Hi Rosemary,

I don’t know every detail of what happened between you and the famous 6 or three or whatever but I guess what needed to be told is told often enough now in this thread and in the former thread(s) at Energetic Forum. It’s almost as if you killed somebody and are trying to get away with it! What did you do to have them so viciously following you? I don't get it. In any case I do admire your energy and courage to continue posting here on your new thread. I would have kissed goodbye all this long ago without ever looking back! 

Are there any new results from your setup at the SA University?

Cheers,
B
Hi B.  Thanks for the kind words.  I know how you've been following this progress.  I want you to keep and eye out for lasersaber's new work and check out the work being done on the Joule Thief threads.  I'll send you a link to my own blog - when and if I get one.  Just not sure where I'll go next.  I'm afraid that the ego's and self-serving interests of those 'replicators' makes these forums pure poison.  But as they say - any publicity is good publicity.

Kind regards,
Rosemary.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #814 on: November 09, 2010, 04:33:04 AM »
Your own blog is where you belong - Some where  that you cant distract or take advantage of the good will of open source engineers for your own agenda. Even not take advantage of Stefan.

Long overdue.

Ashtweth Palise

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #815 on: November 09, 2010, 04:33:57 AM »
Stefan is not stupid, the EF.com banned Rose cause of her behavior after being asked to take any personal crusades off the forum (which were nothing to do with us BTW) was ignored. Stefan also wants none of this nonessential blabber in this forum.

Mean time, we have all been doing open source work, at the EF.com and other things, no one needs or cares for any distractions of this kind. Stefan is not stupid Rose. Neither are Glen, Harvey, Aaron, myself and others you have dealt with who all say the same thing.
Thats the last post of this kind i am doing. I feel for Glen/Harvey and Aaron, they could of been light years ahead with their open source  work if they had not had to deal with this mess, i have been watching. Those who want to work, i suggest you display this trait now. Rose wont be doing this mess for much longer. I Have a lot of work to do BTW.

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Ashtweth I am well aware of how hopelessly in love you are with Glen.  But the standards of Open Source require replications to be acknowledged as such.  One does not expect the outright theft of the technology that is then advanced.  You seem to have overlooked this.  Your judgement is, therefore highly suspect.  Not only that - but your general grasp of the facts seem to be lacking.  Glen, Harvey and You do not add up SIX people.  It is less than a majority either in a collaboration or in any context at all.  And Glen's loud and rather inarticulate demands to have this technology divorced from my own poor efforts - is excessively transparent - to everyone.  The difference is that there are those of you who apparently endorse that theft.

You have made an alarming judgement call.  Time will show you this.  And I am entirely satisfied that all three of you will be so utterly discredited that you will not be able to show your faces on any forums anywhere.  I may be systematically banned - but I will NEVER tire of promoting that something that I entirely understand.  And I intend progressing that understanding.  And may I assure you that you will NEVER be able to license this energy as you are hoping.  Steorne's application is absolutely NOT efficient - NOR patentable - no matter the weight of finance in support of it.  There is MUCH out there that shows considerably more promise.  And all of it ENTIRELY understandable and replicable and usable.  All that is needed is an increase in the power output. 

NOW.  You have not answered my question.  What will you do when we make public our results?  Will you STILL try to advise the world and it's wife that this is Glen's work?  And what will you do when the world and it's wife learn how EASY it is to generate their utility requirements away from your licensing authority?  Will you howl about injustice?  And tell me something Ashtweth.  How can either Glen or Harvey or for that matter you - promote something that they and you don't even understand?  Or if they/you understand it - then why are they/you not promoting that knowledge?  Scarey stuff here Ashtweth.

And B, if you're reading here - I have killed no-one.  This is the ONLY reason that these three horrors are trying to get our work out of the public eye. 

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #816 on: November 09, 2010, 05:04:32 AM »
Guys - it seems that, in one respect Ashtweth is right.  I have just been in discussion with my son.  I have always assumed that this thread is my blog.  I need to apologise for my manifest ignorance on these internet systems.  But I'm open to learning.  My son has explained the difference between the two and I'm afraid I rather usurped this thread - which should be for discussion only - as a kind of personal work record.  Hardly appropriate.  I see that now. 

I believe my son has now started a blog for me.  I need to find it.  I'll be posting there and when and as we have something significant then apparently the trick is to post a link here.  Not sure which thread one does that at?  Or how?  But in any event.  I'll give it my best shot.

But I absolutely do NOT agree that this thread or, for that matter, any thread should be DELETED.  That is utterly against all internet or open source protocols. 

Regards,
Rosemary

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #817 on: November 09, 2010, 05:26:36 AM »
Ashtweth I am well aware of how hopelessly in love you are with Glen.  But the standards of Open Source require replications to be acknowledged as such.  One does not expect the outright theft of the technology that is then advanced.  You seem to have overlooked this.  Your judgement is, therefore highly suspect.  Not only that - but your general grasp of the facts seem to be lacking.  Glen, Harvey and You do not add up SIX people.  It is less than a majority either in a collaboration or in any context at all.  And Glen's loud and rather inarticulate demands to have this technology divorced from my own poor efforts - is excessively transparent - to everyone. The difference is that there are those of you who apparently endorse that theft.

You have made an alarming judgement call.  Time will show you this.  And I am entirely satisfied that all three of you will be so utterly discredited that you will not be able to show your faces on any forums anywhere.  I may be systematically banned - but I will NEVER tire of promoting that something that I entirely understand.  And I intend progressing that understanding.  And may I assure you that you will NEVER be able to license this energy as you are hoping.  Steorne's application is absolutely NOT efficient - NOR patentable - no matter the weight of finance in support of it.  There is MUCH out there that shows considerably more promise.  And all of it ENTIRELY understandable and replicable and usable.  All that is needed is an increase in the power output. 

NOW.  You have not answered my question.  What will you do when we make public our results?  Will you STILL try to advise the world and it's wife that this is Glen's work?  And what will you do when the world and it's wife learn how EASY it is to generate their utility requirements away from your licensing authority?  Will you howl about injustice?  And tell me something Ashtweth.  How can either Glen or Harvey or for that matter you - promote something that they and you don't even understand?  Or if they/you understand it - then why are they/you not promoting that knowledge?  Scarey stuff here Ashtweth.

And B, if you're reading here - I have killed no-one.  This is the ONLY reason that these three horrors are trying to get our work out of the public eye.

 And Glen's loud and rather inarticulate demands to have this technology divorced from my own poor efforts - is excessively transparent - to everyone.

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What Demands ??


EXPERIMENTAL DEVICE TESTING AND EVALUATION "TIME LINE" -
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9442.msg262932#msg262932

"FORUM" Access Problems / File Locations -
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9442.msg262994#msg262994

Experimental Device "NOT" patentable -
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9442.msg262997#msg262997

Tests "UN CONCLUSIVE" - Due To Better Equipment Used -
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9442.msg263032#msg263032

TEKTRONIX -  Request for return due to misleading intent
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9442.msg263039#msg263039

Experimental Apparatus available and it has been checked by EE's even at universities -
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9442.msg263074#msg263074

Patent Application / Intellectual Property Rights -
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9442.msg263083#msg263083

Energetic Forum - Administration "WARNING" on banning -
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9442.msg263187#msg263187

Use of a "Fly Back" diode -
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9442.msg263276#msg263276




I see none ???

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #818 on: November 09, 2010, 06:09:12 AM »
Oh Good God.  More of those ridiculous flaming posts of Glen - with links to links to links - to prove some obscure fact that dies in the reference.  He is entirely incapable of holding a written argument and seems to think that these absurd references somehow gives him some kind of credibility.  When he actually manages to articulate his complaint then I will be very interested in what he has to say. 

Without looking them up - I am ready to bet that two thirds of the links have everything to do with those posts of his that no-one reads telling the world that he has done a replication which he is hopeful will now be considered his own discovery.  There is absolutely NO restraint in this clamorous need for attention to the work that he would not have been able to recognise on his own if it shook him by the hands and introduced itself.

In any event.  Here's the thing.  He is flaming this thread with repetitious posts and there's nothing that Harti is prepared to do to stop this.  And this is precisely why this thread has now been killed.  The moral of the story is this.  If you want to get rid of a member - then here's the blue print.  Just do as Glen does.  His only interest is self-promotion and if anyone get's in the way - then he'll discharge these colourful links where he simply SHOUTS over the discussion.  I've seen three year olds throw this kind of tantrum.

 


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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #819 on: November 09, 2010, 06:43:12 AM »
@RA

So when will people who need to, be able to heat their water? Or is all this commotion part of the ingredients?

From experience, it is best to not respond to counter-productive posts. You will just be compounding the waste of time. So feeding a useless fire only wastes wood. Just let it die off and persevere in what you know is right. Then @stefan will be able to see who is overdoing it and take care of the problem in the right way. Him removing you from moderator is a good thing to protect you.

Oh, in case you are worried, I saved all the pages of this thread and put it on my ftp site here;

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Overunity.com%20-%20Forum%20members/rosemarie-ainslie/

I'm not saying I will do this for each additional page, but at least you have till know in case you need it.

wattsup

PS: Beware of those who write in techni-color. lol

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #820 on: November 09, 2010, 06:45:12 AM »
Anyone trying to claim exclusive recognition is rather defeating the general drive here - and anyone who tries to diminish the character or efforts of us poor promotors of this - you are simply doing yourselves and the general drive - a really gross disservice.  Just get over yourself Glen.  You've done NOTHING that we have not done.  And very soon we will have much much more to both show and discuss.  Not about boring OLD facts and evidence - BUT NEW STUFF - new approaches - new experimental circuit arrangements - new methods of switching - ALL aimed at getting to higher wattage levels.  Different applications.  Greater scope and range.  All that development that Ashtweth thinks that you could manage.  You don't even UNDERSTAND the technology.  HOW could you promote it?  HOW could I risk leaving this technology to you and Harvey?  All you appear to want is some kind of monopoly on a test - and a whole lot of personal accolades that DO NOT BELONG TO YOU - on an experiment that fundamentally is NOT that that usable.  Get over yourself and MOVE ON.

You are constantly trying to remind eveyone that your efforts matter.  They really don't.  They are just one of many - and you don't even understand what you're doing.  You really don't have that much to contribute beyond the REPLICATION which you now try and imply is your discovery.  If you want your efforts to count then show us WHY it matters to either kill this subject or promote it.  It's entirely impossible to understand what the hell you are either trying to do or say or show through those highly coloured SHOUTS of yours.  Other than the fact that you need us to clap our hands and keep looking at you.  It's BORING.  In the extreme.

And for Ashtweth to propose that you progress this?  How?  You wouldn't know how to.  Frankly it is my opinion that you are more than a little unstable - I think the term is a loose cannon - but in your case it would be better described as a rampant EGO.

Guys - here's my promise.  We will be posting our results on a blog, I believe it is - when I find it and learn how to use it.  And then - for those who are following this - if it's cheap and plentiful off grid energy that you're wanting?  I'ts around the corner.

The blog will be aimed at promoting not only the technology on an empirical basis - but it will be developed to give greater than unity results on multiple technologies.  The ONLY intention of our work is to show you all that Over Unity is not an elusive debatable or impossible technology - but that is is very much with us and is being developed - certainly NOT exclusively by ourselves - but by many very talented people on and off forums such as this.  I confidently predict that the required proof which has already been established - will be so widely apparent - that we will breach those HARSH and rather AUSTERE dismissals that have dogged our best efforts to date.

So take heart and pay heed.  And for God's sake just ignore Glen.  He's trying his damndest to kill your hopes.  Or not?  It's impossible to tell as he seems entirely incapable of speaking his mind.  LOL  Maybe he's just trying to say - LOOK AT ME.  Either way.  He's definitely managed to kill this thread.  More's the pity.

Regards,
Rosemary

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #821 on: November 09, 2010, 06:55:19 AM »
@RA

So when will people who need to, be able to heat their water? Or is all this commotion part of the ingredients?

From experience, it is best to not respond to counter-productive posts. You will just be compounding the waste of time. So feeding a useless fire only wastes wood. Just let it die off and persevere in what you know is right. Then @stefan will be able to see who is overdoing it and take care of the problem in the right way. Him removing you from moderator is a good thing to protect you.

Oh, in case you are worried, I saved all the pages of this thread and put it on my ftp site here;

http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Overunity.com%20-%20Forum%20members/rosemarie-ainslie/

I'm not saying I will do this for each additional page, but at least you have till know in case you need it.

wattsup

PS: Beware of those who write in techni-color. lol

MANY THANKS WATTSUP.  I often see you here.  Nice to find support for these OU efforts.  I'm afraid that none of this commotion was either intended or expected.  But strangely it does help.  In any event - we're getting more students assigned to this task and the campus staff are doing their best to rally - within the constraints of really austere budgets.  You guys need to be patient.  But we're NOT talking years.  We're talking months. 

Here's the thing.  The ONLY thing between proof of concept and really high wattage levels is a switch that can carry high wattage.  Had Glen STUCK to the facts and acknowledged the results then we would have had motivation enough to persuade those transistor manufacturers to build the necessary.  But without this we need to get academic accreditation.  We're getting there.  Fast.  And then - at least this much will take us over the hurdle of getting the appropriate components.  Hopefully you ALL realise that the proof is very much at hand.  It's the levels that we're battling with.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #822 on: November 09, 2010, 07:36:22 AM »
glad you are back. hope you are feeling better.
Wilby?  I missed this entirely - and it would have heartened me considerably.  I have paid tribute - often - to your remarkable skills on this forum.  I am delighted to see that you're still with me.  I also see that you posted on that joke of a thread that Glen started.  Another really nice point.

What really delights me in your support is that I know it's not based on any kind of judgement on the work itself - but simply on the efforts.  That's endorsement enough.  Truly grateful for it and thank you for your hopes and wishes here.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #823 on: November 09, 2010, 09:42:29 AM »
Howdy reading members and guests,

I have been notified the IEEE Scribid 10-0207-TIE submittal, a document water marked "for pier review" that Rosemary Ainslie ( aka aetherevarising ) has been referencing in all of her Forum postings and correspondence from July 07, 2010 has been removed from Scribd by IEEE for a copyright violation.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/26240411/PROVING-OVER-UNITY-THE-HARD-WORK-OF-MANY-DEDICATED-OPEN-SOURCE-MEMBERS

( http://www.scribd.com/word/removal/26240411 / This content was removed at the request of IEEE )


I would also like to add my e-mail correspondence that was sent by me to all the submittal authors on July 07, 2010 this was after my notification from Scribid on http://www.scribd.com/doc/26240411/PROVING-OVER-UNITY-THE-HARD-WORK-OF-MANY-DEDICATED-OPEN-SOURCE-MEMBERS being published at Scribid by aetherevarising ( aka Rosemary Ainslie )

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Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:05 PM
Subject: Notice all Authors


 
I'm sure your aware that I alone hold the copyright on the "Scribd" Open Source Evaluation of Power Transients Generated to Improve Performance Coefficient of Resistive Heating Systems http://www.scribd.com/doc/23455916/Open-Source-Evaluation-of-Power-Transients-Generated-to-Improve-Performance-Coefficient-of-Resistive-Heating-Systems with over 3000 views and 160 downloads since 12-01-2009 usage of any part or parts of this document is "PLAGIARISM" without written permission from me on or for any further publications.
 
Secondly ....

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Guys - some more really good news.
 
IEEE have informed me that I can resubmit the paper with new revised information and evidence of open source duplication of the experiment provided that they are made fully cogniscant of the data available at the replication.
 
The implication is clearly that the first was not considered as having sufficient information. So Fuzzy. Would you please allow a collaboration on a new paper including your revised data - that we can submit this for peer review? We're game if you are. I see a comfortable collaboration between all parties here - provided you have no objections to us using your data.
 
In fact I think that many parties could come to the table here - all from our contributors and it would be so nice if you could pm Fuzzy, me, Aaron or Harvey with suggestions or considerations. Just think of it. The first collaborative attempt of a paper submitted by open source enthusiasts. And possibly the first proof of significant energy savings OU OR COP>17. Both are amazing.

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I ..... Glen Lettenmaier, am withdrawing any use of my complete Test number "Thirteen" (13) data and image files for further usage, evaluation or publication, other than what has already been seen and posted at Energetic Forum, Panacea Bocaf and my "copyrighted" Scribd publication.
 
 
Sincerely,
Glen A Lettenmaier
 
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This exposure should show that after the date of July 07, 2010 the usage of the word or words "we, our or us" in conjunction with the IEEE submittal(s) test results on Test #13 does not in any way express my views or opinions in any manner with Rosemary Ainslie.

Sincerely,
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #824 on: November 09, 2010, 10:26:58 AM »
oh it's plagiarism now... ::) do you even have any idea what that word means glen? apparently not.

from the wiki:
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Plagiarism is defined in dictionaries as "the wrongful appropriation, close imitation, or purloining and publication, of another author's language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions, and the representation of them as one's own original work."
usage is not plagiarism...  get a clue. ::)

and just who was it again that asked rosemary to come to energeticforum?


as an aside, this one is amusing...
PROBLEM - How can a INVENTOR without the knowledge of electronic circuitry or electronic component operation or capability of construction of a electronic circuit INVENT a electronic circuit for a PATENT ?? and how can someone claim INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS as Rosemary Ainslie does on that electronic circuit ??
couldn't this same 'logic' be applied to you and your ignorance of 'peer review'?


and this post from peter lindemann seems to contradict what glen, harv and the sycophants keep harping on about...
Quote from: peter lindemann
In the Electric Motor Secrets thread, I showed how to produce mechanical energy while recycling the electricity. In the thread with Imhotep, we showed how to light fluorescent lights while recycling the electricity. Now, here, I am showing Rosemary Ainslie's method to produce heat while recycling the electricity.

This completes the "GENERAL CASE" of how to use electricity efficiently, first described by Nikola Tesla, and referred to by Gabriel Kron as "shuttle circuits". The real method to produce Heat, Light, and Motive Power, at efficiencies above the supposed limits described by the Laws of Thermodynamics, is now fully in the Public Domain.


God Bless you all!
and then there is this...
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This thread is about Rosemary Ainslie's astonishing contributions to Science, and related developments.