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Author Topic: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder  (Read 269125 times)

Offline ashtweth_nihilisti

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #795 on: November 08, 2010, 03:46:21 AM »
Jesus dont try and understand the issue, if you cannot now, it has been spelled out that things she did were deliberate and made no sense, Glen has spelled it out in full color, 6 people have all testified to it, i am one of them, if you dont get it, dont comment, dont tell us to treat people normal, we do , and have tried numerous times to help Rose, thats the point of why we are pointing this all out. Every one who posted and didn't read made  a fool out of themselves. Right in front of the people who contribute, at least we got that out of this time wasting mess.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #796 on: November 08, 2010, 03:41:29 PM »
AN OPEN LETTER TO STEFAN

Dear Stefan.

I have been hospitalised for nearly a week.  I come back to find my thread has been FLAMED - again - by Glen and all of it OFF TOPIC and this effort has been advanced by Glen and Harvey who CLAIM that I maligned them.  WHERE?  Glen CLAIMS that I have deleted 8 of his posts.  WHERE?????

When you invited me to post here you assured me that I would have moderator status as - without it - I will inevitably be 'attacked' by that 'gang' of unprincipled opportunists - and then I will be banned.  You have breached that agreement and withdrawn that moderator status and have invited GLEN AND HARVEY to start a thread in opposition to my own - which is working against this technology and is dedicated to wrecking my hard work on the thesis and on the applications.

I assure you that there are a large number of readers of my thread.  I know this as it entices an off forum discussion which is getting ever wider.  Why have you taken this stance against me?  Are you under an obligation to give them this license to prevent my advancing either the thesis or the application itself?  Am I becoming too effective?  Are you in league with them?  Certainly their need to silence me is now CLAMOROUS.  What exactly is your commitment to open source if you can allow this.

Please do not pretend that I can continue with any kind of work here if they are given the right as you have now given them - to destroy this thread and my hard work in advancing it.

The flaming that has now occurred co-incided with my efforts at discussing certain aspects of the thesis.  I am entirely satisfied that Harvey and Glen need to SILENCE ME.  Surely the evidence speaks for itself.  Why should they be so anxious to rake up an irrelevant HISTORY - when all I am trying to do is advance a really easy technology?  And for God's sake - LOOK AT THEIR WORK.  Look at EF.COM AND even what they've written on OU.COM.  There is ABSOLUTELY NO interest in taking this further.  If I am not allowed to report on this then it will be KILLED.  IS THAT WHAT YOU ALSO REQUIRE?  It certainly is NOT what I understood your commitment to be when you opened this thread for me.

And what exactly do you mean when you say that you are going to DELETE these threads?  Are you now going to delete this hard work.  Have you even read what you're planning to delete?

Regards,
Rosemary

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #797 on: November 08, 2010, 03:55:01 PM »
Guys, I'm in receipt of correspondence from Stefan that I simply do not understand.  In the first instance I was simply giving due record of my thesis and the experimental evidence required to prove it.  Then Glen and Harvey both petitioned Stefan to open their own thread in opposition to my own.  Why?  I was doing them absolutely no harm.  I was not even referencing them.  But Glen's anxiety to find the spotlight can only be achieved by confronting me.  And both he and Harvey have some kind of agenda that is determined to SILENCE me.

It seems that it is working.  You see for yourself what happens when I'm sick.  God alone knows what would happen if I died.  All this knowledge would be BURIED with me.  I appeal to you all to ENTIRELY disregard those stupid - inarticulate - CLAMOROUS posts of Harvey, Glen and Ashtweth - and, IF I am banned as a result of this my PROTEST - then so be it.  What is going on here is abyssimal.  It is absolutely NOT in the interests of either OVER UNITY or FREE ENERGY or the advancement of either.  It is designed to protect that unsubstantiated claim that Glen has got something that is NOT a replication.  And it seems that Stefan is in agreement with their apparent complaints albeit without any substantiation whatsoever.

And it seems that for me to PROTEST the truth is also to be entirely at risk at progressing anything at all.  Certainly not even Stefan sees any need to offer me protection - despite the need being very evident.  In fact - there is now - apparently - the real possibility that all this work will be DELETED.  What the hell.  Where is the interests of Open Source.  What a parody of Open Source.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #797 on: November 08, 2010, 03:55:01 PM »
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #798 on: November 08, 2010, 04:18:39 PM »
And Stefan.  Ashtweth hints in that broad inarticulate way that he does that he's aware of the identity of Doozy2.  Tell us all, PLEASE how he was given this knowledge?

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #799 on: November 08, 2010, 04:21:40 PM »
The gig is LONG up Rose, dont distract people any more and leave us get on with the work we are doing.
i am sure you will be banned if you dont take this hint.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #799 on: November 08, 2010, 04:21:40 PM »
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #800 on: November 08, 2010, 04:24:31 PM »
The gig is LONG up Rose, dont distract people any more and leave us get on with the work we are doing.
i am sure you will be banned if you dont take this hint.

Ashtweth Palise
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WHAT GIG?  WHAT ARE YOU HINTING HERE ASHTWETH?  IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY - THEN SAY IT.

And I am entirely satisfied that you would LOVE to have me banned.  God knows how hard you all worked on this at EF.COM.  And it seems that you've perfected the recipe.  All you do is wait for the moment - FLAME the threads - not even articulate sensible posts - then then sit back like a pack of carion and pick the bones clean.

History will speak very loudly here Ashtweth - that I promise you.  And I have every reason to believe that you will regret this extraordinary attack you head against us poor inventors.  Especially those of us who are female.  LOL

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #801 on: November 08, 2010, 05:04:41 PM »
Jesus dont try and understand the issue, if you cannot now, it has been spelled out that things she did were deliberate and made no sense, Glen has spelled it out in full color, 6 people have all testified to it, i am one of them, if you dont get it, dont comment, dont tell us to treat people normal, we do , and have tried numerous times to help Rose, thats the point of why we are pointing this all out. Every one who posted and didn't read made  a fool out of themselves. Right in front of the people who contribute, at least we got that out of this time wasting mess.

Ashtweth

I missed this one.  There are NOT 6 OF YOU.  There is you - Glen and Harvey.  Steve has NOTHING to say either in defense or against me.  Effectively there are 3 of you and all three are anxious to prevent this technology rather than advance it.  I need to know - we ALL need to know why?  No-one comes out and says it but the fact is that you all HINT.  You are trying to pretend that this is Glen's technology.

The truth of the matter is that we will be downloading data and data and more data that will show how easy this is to replicate.  We've already achieved amazing results on that almost 'STANDARD' immersion heater.  And that's not even close to our best.  That's why it has now become critical to flame this thread and GET RID OF me - come hell or high water. 

Worst still, for you all, is the knowledge that the thesis is now being seriously considered.  And that by academics.  Now tell me Ashtweth.  Why this frantic need to flame this thread?  Why is it now IMPERATIVE that you, Glen, Harvey, TK, Truthbeknown - and all of you? why NOW?  Why suddenly has it become a do or die that you get rid of me?  I think we'd all like to know.  I think we all need to understand what it is about this technology that is DIFFERENT in Glen's replication to those multiple replications that we have/will achieve?  Harvey has mouthed sundry platitudes about the need for a replication to reach COP>17.  Strangely Glen exceeded this.  So did we.  The only person who got hooked on that number was Aaron- and that, because it was the conservative evaluation over an experiment conducted over time.  And the time was only determined by the time it took the control to run FLAT.   Indeed there were multiple moments on all experiments where the evidence is that the battery gets recharged.  That cannot happen at COP>17. 

The other distinction is the difference in the resistors.  I will show you this same effect on resistors that are both standard and non-standard.  The only difference is their point of resonance.  Nothing exotic Ashtweth.  It's absolutely - as day follows night - an easy thing to get.  If you never managed a replication - then I'm not sure why.  We did it on our first test at campus.  I would have downloaded it if I had the right scopemeter to do so.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #801 on: November 08, 2010, 05:04:41 PM »
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #802 on: November 08, 2010, 05:14:47 PM »
What really puzzles me is that you see this imperative requirement to divorce these results from my efforts or thesis.  I wonder if it is because you've INVESTED in Steorne's work and would rather prefer to advance that.  Like you've got a right to rewrite history as per Ashtweth's preference.  And this because you understand so much about physics.  Or is it because it's easier to hit at old women than it is to band together as 'men' as you seem to see it.  In truth, MEN don't behave as you do.  MEN are actually honourable and don't spend their time trying to gag women.  MEN are prepared to acknowledge that women can make as strong a contribution to science as men - because they can also think - and create - and analyse.  And MEN would not, as a rule, have difficulty in acknowledging talent - be it among men or women.

You have all gone to some considerable trouble to try and paint me stupid.  Feel free.  Those MEN out there who matter are not so inclined to share your opinion.  And the THREE of you are absolutely NOT representative of MEN.  MEN absolutely DO NOT BASH OLD WOMEN for doing nothing more nor less than standing up for the truth.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #803 on: November 08, 2010, 05:27:41 PM »
And in conclusion - let me assure you.  If I am BANNED then not one but TWO forums that are both apparently dedicated to Free Energy and the general advancement of critically required technology - will be sorely embarrassed when we make FULL PUBLIC DISCLOSURE of all those results.  What then Ashtweth?  Will you be running in the front of that all that inevitable interest trying to tell everyone that this is NOT our work but GLEN'S?  LOL.  Or will you be saying that 6 OF US HAVE FOUND HER TO BE A LIAR AND THAT THIS IS NOT HER WORK.  SHE'S INCAPABLE OF IT? 

I assure you that I have many, many, many more than 6 people who will attest to this work preceding this parody of a replication.  And in as much as they are accredited - then I think we will ALL be able to rest on those advices.  And if you THINK I'm a liar - then I really don't mind.  And I'm not sure anymore how committed Panacea is to free energy when you go to such lengths to try and get me banned.  I have ALWAYS been committed to the advancement of clean green.

It seems that you and Glen and Harvey say exactly what you like about me.  But I MAY NOT DEFEND MYSELF nor return the attack.  NOR is there protection on this forum any longer.  It seems that I must have no means of countering your ALLEGATIONS.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #803 on: November 08, 2010, 05:27:41 PM »
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #804 on: November 08, 2010, 08:03:00 PM »
Howdy reading members and guests,

Another quote from Rosemary "in her own words" ......


http://www.energeticforum.com/61506-post942.html   July 20,2009    Post #942

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witsend 

hi Joit. Love the comments. What scares me is not the academics - because at least they sincerely believe in their science - with good reason. Its the detractors on other forums that are worrying. The lengths they go to to discredit the person and the claim - both.

Have you ever looked through the OU.Com thread on this? It beggars belief. Malice hardly describes it. And the amount of money that is spent on displaying tests and parading brand new state of the art equipment that is never effectively used. Weeks go by without a single test result - just promises of this. Yet we are constantly advised that the claim is wrong. Has it ever occurred to anyone that - to this day - no single power measurement has been made on the circuitry? No test has been run to duration of a battery capacity. Brand new state of the art equipment is constantly on display but never are its full functions referenced. Small irrelevant points become critical evidence of a lack of proof and are championed with an unabashed repetitiveness that is boringly persistent but brutally destructive. But no actual proof is offered.

What is frightening is that anyone who questions a result is actually verbally menaced. One post we've got on record is of Ramset's answer to a challenging observation by one of their contributors. He actually wrote to the effect that 'owlsley needs to kiwl the kitty'. TK is on record as openly saying that I am a mendacious prevaricator. Apparently all aspects of our test are some sort of public con, apparently aimed at I don't know what? Surely my stated intention not to capitalise on the device must bring my motives to question. Clearly, if I am perpetuating a con - then it's not for purposes of defrauding the public. Why would I go to such lengths to expose a small little effect, possibly the smallest of any OU claim ever offered up for consideration? What is it that deserves their heavy handed attempts at wit or sarcasm, done with the orchestrated approval of other 'so called' scientists sharing that thread. TK only needs to make a post for immediate endorsement by other contributors who also then mock my apparent lack of sanity, judgement, intelligence, schooling, beliefs, ideas, lack of expertise - name it's all there. All for public consumption. All unchallenged. And all such detractors always out of reach, always carefully hiding behind their assumed identities. They flirt with their rights to freedom of expression that under normal circumstances, and under ordinary civil law would be actionable. And all this, clearly with Stephan's endorsement. Never do they give us their names. Never do they disclose their identities. Never are we in a position to find out their actual motives.

To compound my concerns is the fact that the entire forum was promoted by Stephan, with, one would assume, the intention of promoting the study of free energy. I can no longer access OU.Com. Was he responsible for my not gaining access? And if so, at whose asking and why? Public - to everyone but me? Then too it seems that my emails are being read. How does that happen? Are my phone calls also being monitored?

It's all very puzzling. All I want is an answer to the question posed in my paper - ideally from academics who can validate the result or not and comment accordingly. If they won't hear me then maybe they'll listen to you guys? It's quite important really. But its only a small question. In the light of the attack, however, I'm realising how significant it is. Certainly it seems to be sufficiently significant for them to do everything in their power to destroy my reputation and my work - both. Why is it that important? I can only propose it's because we're near the truth and this, for some reason, needs to be discredited. And again. Why?



And all this, clearly with Stephan's endorsement. Never do they give us their names. Never do they disclose their identities. Never are we in a position to find out their actual motives.


To compound my concerns is the fact that the entire forum was promoted by Stephan, with, one would assume, the intention of promoting the study of free energy. I can no longer access OU.Com. Was he responsible for my not gaining access? And if so, at whose asking and why? Public - to everyone but me? Then too it seems that my emails are being read. How does that happen? Are my phone calls also being monitored?


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I'll let Stefan handle the last past flaming posts starting at Post #803 from Rosemary about her recent banning and moderator status here at Over Unity Forum and her unfounded unproved allagations again against everyone in the world but her.  The truth hurts ......


Regards,
Glen


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« Last Edit: November 08, 2010, 09:00:26 PM by fuzzytomcat »

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #805 on: November 08, 2010, 08:21:43 PM »
Hi Rosemary,

I don’t know every detail of what happened between you and the famous 6 or three or whatever but I guess what needed to be told is told often enough now in this thread and in the former thread(s) at Energetic Forum. It’s almost as if you killed somebody and are trying to get away with it! What did you do to have them so viciously following you? I don't get it. In any case I do admire your energy and courage to continue posting here on your new thread. I would have kissed goodbye all this long ago without ever looking back! 

Are there any new results from your setup at the SA University?

Cheers,
B

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #805 on: November 08, 2010, 08:21:43 PM »
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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #806 on: November 08, 2010, 11:00:05 PM »
I have been hospitalised for nearly a week.
glad you are back. hope you are feeling better.

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #807 on: November 08, 2010, 11:07:00 PM »
All that happened in this whole saga is people did not listen to creditable hard workers in the open source community  and made a fool out of themselves. we know who you are now. I am glad this is over, we told you so, all as it did was unnecessary distract engineers from work.
now we can get on with the job with out the you know whats.

Ash

didn't you have an intricate plan about not posting here anymore?
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Just posting for others emailing me, here , that i wont be involved in this thread/forum/ incident, and for others to ignore any reference to me (never mind posting/emailing me about it) . Good luck with your experiments here.

what happened? no integrity?

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #808 on: November 08, 2010, 11:24:50 PM »
Glen,

Rose was able post earlier today. Are you saying she has now been put on "read only" status?

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Re: Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder
« Reply #809 on: November 08, 2010, 11:37:53 PM »
Glen,

Rose was able post earlier today. Are you saying she has now been put on "read only" status?

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no, he is posting quotes that are over a year old.

http://www.energeticforum.com/61506-post942.html   July 20,2009    Post #942

the date is what gives it away poynty... ;)

 

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