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FatChance!!!

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #60 on: August 02, 2010, 09:30:01 PM »
The motor advice
That's good but did you read and understand my explanation how your pendulum contrapment works?

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2010, 07:33:02 PM »
just 2 cents, trying to harness the gravity power on a longer shaft. The setup seems to work, now lets do some measurement to see if Milkovic and Chalkalis together can do some usefull work.
any idea ?
Good night
Laurent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr69L9fJpY4

@Laurent

Very nice Milkovic pendulum and a clever way of driving it.

But I do not understand how you are driving the Chalkalis wheel. In the video you say that there is small motor? Would you mind to explain that?


What to do with the "NOD" of the Milkovic pendulum lever:

Milkovic suggests in two of his patents to convert the "nod" into electricity by moving a magnet in relation to a spool.

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Patenti/Patent8.jpg
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Patenti/Patent3.jpg
( http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/PatentiEng.html )

If the "nod" (at the end of the lever, where it strikes the confinement) is strong, one could move a very massive and powerful neodymium magnet (shaped like a rod) in and out of a big spool. The magnet induces an alternating current into the spool which could be rectified with a full diode bridge (and a big smoothing electrolyte capacitor) into fairly good DC.

Measuring the DC Voltage over a resistor could allow to calculate the electric power generated. Of course, this "dynamo" has losses, may be only an efficiency of about 60%. But it would give a rough indication of how close on comes to "unity".

Imagine a horse-head-pump as used to pump oil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpjack, where the travelling valve is the magnet and around it not the oil pipe, but the spool.

I hope one can understand this cryptic way of putting it.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #62 on: August 17, 2010, 03:12:38 PM »
Hi Conrad

this set up is a test to see how i could power the Chalkalis assymetric weight.

So i simply took one of my other pulse motor test. I enclose here a video where you can see this motor working and the shematic if you want to replicate.

Than i simply remade a rotor without the 6 magnets but only 2 bigger and glued on one side of the rotor. So these 2 magnets are so to say a selfmotorising pendulum.

I did not try to test any output power at the end of the lever. But i think a solenoid and a magnet could be a good solution, as per the Milkovic's patent you mentionned.

Hopes this help

good luck

Laurent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjzLKp8bReQ

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #63 on: August 17, 2010, 04:54:22 PM »
Than i simply remade a rotor without the 6 magnets but only 2 bigger and glued on one side of the rotor. So these 2 magnets are so to say a selfmotorising pendulum.

Laurent

Even more impressive than I imagined.

You got rid of the ungainly vertical lever of the Milcovic pendulum and you replaced it with a very efficiently driven unbalanced wheel (pulse motor principle). Very compact and an amazingly smooth running machine. It runs like clockwork and like all good ideas, it looks so simple.

Great stuff, I feel the urge to replicate your set up.

Does anybody have an idea how efficient it is (as a dynamo) to move a powerful magnet in and out of a big spool?

You see the slow speed and the relatively short stroke of the nod
(in Laurent's video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr69L9fJpY4),
is this a big draw back for the dynamo effect?

Greetings, Conrad

P.S.: Why does it always happen? I do something (like now I play with Joule Thieves and self made batteries), and then I see something intriguing which lets me drop what I am doing and I start something new. (And of course, nothing gets ever finished!)

woopy

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2010, 05:21:54 PM »
Hehe Conrad

just for thinking

Imagine that you will power your JT with your self made battery, than the JT recharge a supercap ,which recharges a battery which powers a pulse motor which power a Milko pendulum which power a solenoid ,which of course charge a battery and by doing this you can recycle the kickback energy of the pulse motor to recharge another battery which can power a Garry stanley motor and your electric bike and ............

So you see don't worry about having an open mind and be interested in all these very interesting stuff. As we are not pro and have the great chance not to have to obligatory get results, my advice is try, try try and have great fun. An wy not once perhaps a big surprise.

Good luck

Laurent

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Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #65 on: September 12, 2010, 12:13:46 PM »
Hello world,
Once again I will remind you that I am neither Mr.Milkovic’s or Mr.Chalkalis’s or anyone else’s attorney, but anyone reading the following posts can understand that the results of my interventions are beneficial for everyone.
For example, after my post No #206 (07-29-2010) http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5957-f-m-chalkalis-gravity-system-donation-7.html#post105788 in energetic forum and the reply No #207 of Mr. Matthew Jones appeared a statement on PEWiki’s page on Mr. Feltenberger saying that “It is basically a commercially-available version of Milkovic's secondary oscillation technology.” http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:_Feltenberger_Pendulum_by_Gravitational_Energy_Corporation
Here are some of my thoughts I would like to share with you:
Mr. Rickoff ‘s references on the Swinging Gym confirms the operating principle of Mr. Chalkalis Device.
The properties of the flywheel and wide range of its use is something we all know. Mr. Matthew Jones in his experiment (post No #214) http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5957-f-m-chalkalis-gravity-system-donation-8.html#post106755 confirms that Mr.Chalkalis 60⁰ triangle is superior compared to common flywheel and in my humble opinion we’ll see it pretty soon in use by industries.
I myself did another experiment, using a spring scale to count the needed force in order to complete a rotation of the pendulum.
In the first case, counting from the center of the 50 kg weight at 51cm on the arm and starting at “8 minutes to 12 o’clock” the scale, shows that 20 kg of force are needed in order to complete the rotation.
In the second case however, when pulling from the end of the arm (lever) at 1.12cm the spring scale shows that only 4.8 kg of force are needed in order to complete the rotation.
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?d282aa13e2.jpg

Mr. Chalkalis had the genius idea to add external energy in order to expliot gravity as well as a brilliant driving system to the most ideal point. For that alone he deserves our congratulations on his contribution on the development of overunity.
In a personal correspondence with Mr. Chalkalis, he expressed his query but also the bitterness about the fact that in various websites, the prevailing opinions are, almost always, of the same individuals while most of the rest tolerate them by keeping silent.
He actually said: “I donated my innovation and I asked for the contribution of anyone that may help to develop and make it useful. I never expected that I would be criticized so hard for that action.”
He also added that he cannot understand how is it possible to have the final word on such matters, people with extreme views and people who have built their career by selling books of the works of poor living and deceased inventors.
Unfortunately I do not have the chance to build a proper clone replica of the system but I am pretty sure that the foundations of Mr F.M.Chalkalis’s invention are of great importance to the exploitation of gravity and I believe that they will find their place in history.
W32

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #66 on: September 12, 2010, 12:56:33 PM »
I believe that they will find their place in history.
This website is about people who simply wish to cooperate and give to the world,
rather then for those with egos.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2010, 01:36:51 PM by Paul-R »

Ted Ewert

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #67 on: September 12, 2010, 05:22:53 PM »
Hello world,...
W32
After many years of work, Mr Chalkalis selflessly gave to the world the results of his endeavors. He trumpeted this device as an "energy multiplier", and it was going to solve the energy crisis. What was the secret?
Well, this "energy multiplier" consisted of nothing more than a rotating pendulum, which in its present form created no extra energy, exhibited no unusual properties and multiplied nothing.
I have done some experiments with this device. Sure enough, it goes around in a circle just like Chalkalis demonstrated. Unfortunately, it does little else.
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He actually said: “I donated my innovation and I asked for the contribution of anyone that may help to develop and make it useful. I never expected that I would be criticized so hard for that action.”
What horseshit! He claimed to have a device that multiplied energy, not that he needed help with a stalled project. This is the crux of the matter. He offered no evidence when asked for proof of his claims. He wouldn't answer any technical questions, he substantiated nothing, yet whined incessantly about how everybody was mean to him.
A rotating pendulum is anything but new. Milkovic shows how this energy can be transfered and used effectively. Milkovic also beat him to the punch about placement of the drive mechanism near the top of the downward swing, so he doesn't get credit for that one.  All Chalkalis really offers is the 60 degree configuration as his innovation. That's interesting, but hardly earth shaking. 
Why don't you ask Chalkalis why he doesn't put a simple alternator on the axle of his pendulum to see how much power it "multiplies"? Somehow I doubt you'll ever get an answer for that one.

Ted

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2011, 09:58:06 PM »
have there been any successful attempts to replicate this? It looks simple to replicate and with the weight spinning around it looks like it would be able to power a generator to sustain the drive motors along with additional load. I am surprised there hasn't been more activity on this one?!?!

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #69 on: January 07, 2011, 01:15:58 AM »
@Ted Ewert,

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I have done some experiments with this device. Sure enough, it goes around in a circle just like Chalkalis demonstrated. Unfortunately, it does little else.

What else? Does your device go around in a circle at a given rpm value without spinning down? If it does, show it. Otherwise, don't even bother to mention it.

MrMag

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #70 on: January 07, 2011, 02:03:00 AM »
LMAO. Omni, the post is 4 months old. What, No newer post are available to whine about?

Omnibus

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #71 on: January 07, 2011, 02:10:45 AM »
LMAO. Omni, the post is 4 months old. What, No newer post are available to whine about?

spam

MrMag

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #72 on: January 07, 2011, 02:20:02 AM »
Not spam. I just wanted you to see that you were whining about a 4 month old post.
You need to go back that far to find posts to complain about.
looser..

Omnibus

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #73 on: January 07, 2011, 02:40:40 AM »
Not spam. I just wanted you to see that you were whining about a 4 month old post.
You need to go back that far to find posts to complain about.
looser..

You're spamming the forum, loser. Loser, clown, loser.

MrMag

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #74 on: January 07, 2011, 02:54:17 AM »
You're spamming the forum, loser. Loser, clown, loser.

ROFLMAO. Sticks and stones. Grow up Omni. Go read a book.