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Author Topic: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel  (Read 73407 times)

Offline tbird

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2010, 12:26:49 PM »
[quote author=sm0ky2
for instance, take the Chalkalis device, and move the drive-wheels to the other side of the wheel; Such that they are driving the wheel up and over the top, instead of pushing it on the down side. If the drive-wheels are set so that the wheel just barely completes the full circle when pushed on the down side,
when you move them to the up side, the wheel will not make it around the top, and back into the drive-wheels.
too much momentum is eaten by the gravitational decceleration.
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did you really mean to say "...the wheel will not make it around the top,..."?

since you have the drive wheels on the up side (assumed the same distance from top dead center), isn't that as far as the wheel has to travel?

it sounds like what you are saying is the wheel won't make it back to even that distance unless you add more energy than it would take if the drive wheels where on the down side.

is that right?

tom

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2010, 12:26:49 PM »

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2010, 01:24:44 PM »
thats exactly the point im trying to make Tom.

it requires MORE energy to flip the mass around the top of the curve when the force is added on the "up" side than it does when you add the force in the same directional vector as the gravitational force. (down side)

NOW,. is doing so truly "overunity"? or simply "more efficient"?
that's the question.

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2010, 04:07:26 PM »
from his blog....

Calculation method:
Central weight F 45,69Kg = 448,2Ν ∙ r 0,51m = 228.58Nm ∙ 160 RPM ÷ 9550 = 3,829Κw
Additional weight F 4,5Kg = 44,145Ν ∙ r 1,12m = 49.44Nm ∙ 160 RPM ÷ 9550 = 0,828Κw
                                                                                                                       Tot. 4,657Κw

did he do this right?  is he saying his machine could, at 160 rpm, produce 4,657 watts (i think the K is a misprint, oh no! he uses a comma in a number like i do a period.  commas for me are for a different use, like above....separates thousands from hundreds, etc.) if he had a 100% efficient alt hooked to it?

anybody else think this is what he means?

tom

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2010, 04:07:26 PM »
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Offline lespaul109

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2010, 04:15:47 PM »
I do know that some cultures use a comma for our "period" and vis versa. My wife is peruvian and uses commas to seperate cents from dollars. This is my two cents. Not to sure about Greeks

jake

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2010, 05:54:42 PM »
sorry i confused you with that question.  i meant it to address Chalkalis's numbers (how he got the 8-11 times output).

to continue, let's say it is ou.  to be a self runner, what would be the most efficient way to draw off the input power?

he says......"It could also be auto supplied (run on its own power) with the appropriate technical means which unfortunately I do not have."

i think he said some place he had tried using electricity too, but failed.

off-the-shelf motors, in general, don't seem to be very efficient.  direct drive would be nice, but.... anyone have a simple design to pulse the arm as his does with the 2 smaller wheels?

how about putting an alt on the output shaft (as efficient as possible, not a car alt) and an electric magnet where he has the 2 small wheels?  the coil could be fixed in position and the magnet/core could be on the edge of the arm.  then attracted/repulsed at the proper time.

any thoughts?

tom

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Offline ramset

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2010, 09:19:39 PM »
Jake,
Nice Jig you have there!

Should make a nice test bed!

Thanks for sharing your hard work !!

Chet

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« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2010, 09:19:39 PM »
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Offline lespaul109

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2010, 09:43:56 PM »
My single outer drive wheel.....hope it works

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2010, 01:08:33 AM »
have new video of running machine now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bHCWyiVOBY

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« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2010, 01:08:33 AM »
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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2010, 03:40:41 AM »
now is the time when I ask for ideas about how to extract energy(electrical).........anyone

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2010, 05:37:15 AM »
now is the time when I ask for ideas about how to extract energy(electrical).........anyone

nice work. i would look at adjusting the distance between the rotor and the drive-wheel. it looks from that video that its knocking pretty hard, maybe a little "too close" together ??
it should rub enough to kick the rotor around, but probably shouldn't be jolting the drivewheel back like it is in thiis video.

im sure theres a lot of power lost in that action.
"strain" on the motor or whatever...


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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2010, 05:37:15 AM »
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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2010, 06:01:51 AM »
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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2010, 05:40:17 PM »
ok, tested my motor that has two coils. Each produces 8v peak to peak @ 300rpm. My drive motor needs about 3v @ 600mA can some one tell me how to wire both coils using diodes and/or rectifiers and caps to power my DC motor? Color codes are:

Coil 1: Yellow & Black
Coil 2: Red & Grey

thanks,
jake

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2010, 06:10:13 PM »
hi jake,

you've been a busy boy!!  well done!

did you check the rpm of the main shaft?

2 volts x .6 amps = 1.2 watts...not much needed to keep it turning!  what rpm was that wheel?

i'm not the best here to tell you how to wire, but if that is dc output from your motor, the 8 volts from each coil should be enough to run your motor. if you hooked the 2 in parallel, you would still have the 8 volts, but would double the amps available.  of course if the rpm is much less than 300, so will the voltage be.

i guess there are others who can ask better questions and give better answers.  let's see who will speak up.

again, GREAT JOB!!!

tom
« Last Edit: July 25, 2010, 07:00:12 PM by tbird »

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Re: Chalkalis Gravity Wheel
« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2010, 06:53:58 PM »
nice pics/vid lespaul109, i think i understand now how this machine is suppose to work to produce free energy/over unity.fascinating idea!
« Last Edit: July 25, 2010, 07:30:12 PM by FreeEnergy »

 

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