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Author Topic: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!  (Read 21072 times)

Offline Raj Balkee

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2010, 06:59:10 PM »
The second drawing.

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2010, 07:01:43 PM »
If you send me the materials I can build it now that I am not working.

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2010, 07:16:24 PM »
By God, I WISH I had the materials. I would have already tried to build and test my concept. I would not have found it neccesary to come on this forum...to seek your views!!!

It is a shame that due to circumstances, I will not be be able to built the AGE device before newyear.

I shall let you all know what I shall see then.

Till then let me stay theoritical.

Raj

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2010, 07:16:24 PM »
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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2010, 06:25:48 PM »
Hey Raj:
   Getting ready to start this thing. I will need to know what your original dimensions are for each wheel. Just the diameters of each wheel and mags will be ok. That way I can scale it down to fit my magnets. You can PM the info if you want to keep it that way for the moment.

thay

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2010, 06:54:16 PM »
I would not have found it neccesary to come on this forum...to seek your views!!!

Whether you have build it or not it's always useful to put ideas and concepts in the public domain especially relating to FE. This would encourage discussion, spark new ideas and be a form of security.


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Offline Raj Balkee

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2010, 05:43:04 AM »
Hello Thay.
The diameter of the outer rim of the inner small wheel IS HALF the length of the diameter of the inner rim of the outer larger wheel.
The magnets will be the biggest and strongest available.

I am indebted to you for having a go at a build and test of concept.
Many many thanks.
Regards.
Raj

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2010, 10:54:43 AM »
Hi Raj:
   Going back to the new draw in post 5, if you follow all the lines you have drawn, you will see an "exact" replication on each side. That is to say, you have an equal attract and oppose on each site. This draw is in total lockup as shown and will not move.
   On a better note, KJMag has 3/8" diametric magnets for about a buck apiece. So for about $25, I can have some fun too. Need to order some big diametric anyhow. Keep ya posted. See how many more blisters I can get in the process.

thay

AS WE WOULD EXPECT, I presume thay must be suffering from blistered fingers from his trial build, for not coming back here ...

I thank thay for caring/daring to try.
I suspect I would be full of blisters too, by new year, when I shall try my build of my AGE concept.
Raj

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2010, 04:41:05 PM »
   A couple of pinches yes, no blisters yet. You are quite right. I am having a hell of a time getting them to orient right and not spin around while setting. The only thing I can come up with is setting them in an insertable section and then pushing that into the wheel with glue. Just nothing here to grasp while inserting. I think it may be more adventagious to get another 24 and make this twice as big in size. The rings are no problem to make and drill, just getting the pole faced the right way.   ;D  Sure glad I didn't try with 3/4" size.

thay

 and by the way, I am still working 6 days a week.

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2010, 05:07:49 PM »
Hello Thay!
 How are things fairing with your trial?
I am closely following all magnet concepts and devices posted on this forum, and I find my AGE concept has a distinct difference from all.
My concept uses two forces:
(1) the repelling and attracting force of magnets to overbalance the wheels to make them turn.
 (2) the force of Gravity to reset the unbalanced wheels.
Both forces are expected to act simultaneously, to make both wheels turn continuously.
It would be nice to know if Thay can find any indication anywhere near to my concept.

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2010, 05:57:59 AM »
I omitted to point out that my AGE concept is 'patent pending'
Patent Apllication Number: GB1008778.1
Filing Date: 26 May 2010.

Raj

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2010, 09:27:16 AM »

Over and over the same error. In a closed system something moves because it is submitted to a potential difference (gravity, electric or magnetic).
After one turn the system is at the same position as its start point. This means that there is no potential difference between the start point and the final point, consequently there is no reason for the mobile part to move.
A potential difference can cause the mobile part to move but only along a fraction of the path, because the potential difference in the next part of the loop is of opposite sign (otherwise the potential energy would not be the same at the start and end positions which are the same and one).

A description of a closed system using only current laws of physics will never prove perpetual motion. And if the system is not closed, then the system could work, but in this case what is depleted outside? What is the principle involved?
Either a working model is to be built and shown, or a consistent theory is to be presented (in order the others not to waste time in attempt to make experiments to verify it). We have here neither one nor the other.



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Offline Raj Balkee

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2010, 06:44:30 PM »
I am pleased that my announcement above has triggered a reply.

Starting from a point, moving/turning/ rotating and resetting at the start point, is ALL I have tried to achieve.
Starting from rest postion, and resetting to the start position, we have GAINED ' some momentum, if nothing else, that can alleviate in some way, in the next cycle!!!
A ' Build' will be done in due course. There is no rush.
For better or for worse, safeguarding my idea has been my priority.
' Closed' or ' Open' systems have been the least of my worries.
As for the laws of thermodynamics as we know them today, I wonder what will they be like in a thousand years and beyound.
Regards.
Raj

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2010, 08:32:17 AM »
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As for the laws of thermodynamics as we know them today, I wonder what will they be like in a thousand years and beyound.

The laws of thermodynamics are statistical therefore they are possibly not correct at very small scale of space-time, especially the second law. Nevertheless we have not yet a conclusive experiment that would dismiss it.


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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2010, 10:35:52 PM »
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Does anyone of you think that these new repulsion and attraction magnetic forces look likely to make the wheels
 rotate.
Reply please.
Raj

Raj Balkee,

sorry to take so long with this reply.  couldn't find it.  and when i did it wasn't as close to yours as i was thinking.  it still might be interesting to you.  a fellow did a really nice build and couldn't get it to work.  i can't find that either, yet.

http://www.fdp.nu/cack_movie/janpcack.asp

tom

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Re: These magnet wheels look set to run !!!
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2010, 05:41:35 PM »
Thanks Tom!
The magnet wheel you mention is like most on this forum, i.e the stator and rotor, one maintaining its same orbit in relation to the other, which I think will be gravitationally BALANCED, and will rely entirely on the magnetic repelling and/or attracting forces to provide torque for rotation.
My AGE magnet wheels (outer larger as stator and inner smaller as rotor) are expected to rotate because the stator will continuously change its orbit round the rotor, by being brought closer to the rotor on counterclockwise side and further away from the rotor on the clocwise side by corresponding magnets pull and push, thereby unbalancing the rotor, forcing it to rotate and gravity providing the resetting force each time continuously.

To our friend Thay.
I have been expecting a reply...
As they say...' Silence is golden! 'and/or  'No news is good news!'
But is it?
I wonder...just fable!
Raj

 

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