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Title: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: dani on April 16, 2006, 11:15:11 PM
Has someone build a replication of the motor at
www.budinst.com/FILIPIAK_MOTORuser=budinstpassword=energy
Title: Re: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: hartiberlin on April 17, 2006, 01:22:47 AM
Interesting motor !

The docs says the following:


Dear Sir or Madam,
   
We have the pleasure to introduce you to an exceptional invention, namely
the synchronous magneto-electric motor producing clean, environment-friendly and free energy ? the only costs are the manufacturing costs on the motor.
We are in possession of a home-made prototype motor that generates power equalling around 10W as measured on the motor?s shaft.
The advantages of the synchronous magneto-electric motor, according to the inventor:
1 -  The motor exploits push and pull forces of magnetic fields of permanent magnets and Earth?s gravity.
      2 -   The motor, despite the fact that it operates without any standard external energy supply, such
   as electricity or fossil fuels,
      is not a "perpetum mobile", as it utilises an external energy source ? Earth?s gravity.
      3 -   The motor is set in motion by a starter (similarly to a car engine) and its operation       
      time is virtually unlimited, restricted only by the durability of   its mechanical parts,
      such as bearings, shaft, etc.
4 -   The motor is silent, it does not consume or produce heat and it generates environment-friendly, clean energy.
5 - A simply-built mechanism with relatively low manufacturing costs, the motor generates free power. 

The simple construction and low manufacturing costs give a wide array of applications, such as electricity generators or even cars.
We assume that the invention is of strategic importance in the 21st  century.
An alternative for the currently used sources of energy worldwide.
We would like to emphasise that the provided information on the invention, however true and factual, is hardly to believe without actually seeing  the working model.
On the enclosed CD the motor is shown when operative, yet one can still have doubts. 
The black measurers show the power consumed by the magnetic synchronizer, which equals around 0,08 Watt. On the enclosed film, the yellow measurers show the motor?s power on its shaft, equaling 2,4 Watts.
The maximum power of the motor equaled 10 Watts with around 0,2 Watt consumed by the synchronizer.
It is worth seeing the model working freely and under strain. The invention was registered in the Patent Office of the Republic of Poland and the international PCT system.
Due to the above, we have not presented the invention to wider public and address, among others, you and offer the license for sale.

We kindly invite you to see the working model.

        Yours faithfully,
 Filipiak WÅ‚odzimierz, the author

Monawar Davoud, the co-author   
contact person: Robert Zieliński
Email: robertz107@wp.pl
Tel.: 0048-667324823
Title: Re: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: hartiberlin on April 17, 2006, 02:23:31 AM
Here is a video of it converted to smaller size !
Title: Re: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: hartiberlin on April 17, 2006, 02:30:45 AM
Here is the next video.
I wonder, if he can really get up to 10 Watts from the slow running
rpm shaft of the big 2 discs ?
Or is he generating the 10 Watts from the rotating weight with the
magnets down there inducing power into coils ?
Title: Re: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: Nastrand2000 on April 17, 2006, 02:35:43 AM
It apears that there are no batteries, just a capicitor being charged (used to run the  synchronizer). A very interesting idea
Title: Re: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: hartiberlin on April 17, 2006, 03:05:35 AM
Here is a FLASH animation in an *.exe file.
www.overunity.com/filipiak (http://www.overunity.com/filipiak)

This shows pretty well the functional principle.
What do you think about this ?
Is it already working in a closed loop
mode ?Or is he just charging batteries with it ?
Title: Re: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: Nastrand2000 on April 17, 2006, 03:23:33 AM
if he is using a two battery system (again i dont see any batteries, could be behind the meters in the video tho), would this constitute an open system? If he is charging and discharging a capacitor (you can see a capacitor behind motor for a second or two in the video), then it would be a closed system. If no batteries are used i assume its a closed system, and if it contiued to run, then this is a feat in itself. This is the next motor i will replicate once my torbay replication is done.
 
Jason P.
Title: Re: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: hartiberlin on April 17, 2006, 04:04:36 AM
Have a closer look at the vdeos,
it seems he is using 2 x 12 Volts batteries under the meters,
there are glued these white paper stickers ontop of them...
Title: Re: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: Nastrand2000 on April 17, 2006, 04:15:53 AM
i would have to agree...i didnt see the soldering to the posts of the batteries
Title: Re: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: mark australia on April 17, 2006, 06:08:03 PM
one of the volt metres is showing 12 volts even when it is stationary...I suspect batteries. However why dont you email him and ask???? I dont speak polish.
I also ....like with all mag motor projects, would like to know how long it has run for and do the magnets hold up after running under load. I think that could also be the reason everyone has gone to cover in Argentina Re the Torbay motor.
Kind Regards
mark
Title: Re: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: lancaIV on April 18, 2006, 12:45:44 AM
This is a magnetic torque amplifier with -to electricity- conversion !

Donald Kelly,US4191161 or US4082969 as same without e-conversion !

This  Inventor has got a wide experiment-spectrum,
a kind of Tesla-turbine,kinds of Sterling/Rankine-engines,
solar-concentrator and the inverse use of micro-motors(Li Yng Tyan)
as coupled wind-force-converter !
Really fresh/not common ideas !

S
  dL

p.s.: When I post names/patent-numbers of inventors,
       I hope that object interested people will use the white pages
       to get contact with such extraordinary "re-/searcher",
       "they normally do not bite you" if you show real interest about their work !
       Thomas Cosby,Joseph C. Yater,Helmut Reichelt,....-they are all in the
       seventhees/eightees(evtl.+X),think about maskulin/male life exspectance
       and probably you will action a little faster
       or it will be too late !      
       
Title: Re: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: lancaIV on April 22, 2006, 02:50:17 AM
You can push/start this systems by hand(human motorik)
or with a starter-motor,the effect is the same.

Sincerely
            de Lanca
Title: Re: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: budinst on April 22, 2006, 12:38:56 PM
Hi,
here some mail " discussion":



What are those exe files? I would never trust running them.
Norman Bollinger
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That site is as good an example of bad communication
as it is possible to find. I expect he is selling
shares.
Paul.
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If people cant loop simpler things yet I doubt they can replicate
and FINISH the guys invention and R&D . 

(Anyways interesting ) but such powerfull array of magnets and cant
hit 1KW ?  :P""" braaaapppp !  (not cost effective )

Cant compete with a 120W solar cell at $700 (retail)  versus the
$17,000 per 10W if it ever goes retail ...

Something like the 2and half ton newman Motor ( I certify is OU ) but
also certify is a big piece of shit junk on the practical aplication
side ...  Demostrating OU is no longer the Point ,its the screwy
aplications that require atention ...

Untill RV there was nothing to move a Lathe a Drill or a Konehead
Lawnmower in practical power level and using standard off the shelve
frames ...

Thing this man have of value is the principle used to attain the
effect ... Question is ?  Will he share it ? 

Hector

Use a PM gen and RV or a Kone Muller RV driven mix ...
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Hi Hector,

You are right, that it's better to buy solar panel or to cope with RV. It was not my intention to focus only on this motor, but just to show the conception that works - Mr Filipiak's motor. I'm not so sure about Perendev one. It doesn't really mettter that it gives only 10W of power for free - it is just a model, without any optimisation. The inventor is not engineer, and he built it because science didn't tell him that it is impossible . The picturees shown at www.budinst.com/FILIPIAK_MOTOR  (user=budinst ; password=energy) primary as raw files(sorry), then as simple webpage was  placed there just in order to widen our horizons in free energy. Every invention can potencially lead to other inventions. The photos were taken by my friend "GREG" on 13th April when he visited personally the inventor and saw working device. He also did some memasurements personally

cheers, AW (budinst)
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Its ok to focus on Broadband R&D, we can find a lot of concepts
leading to universal truth , integrating that universal truth is the
difficulty , turning it into aplications a nightmare ...

Hector :) 
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looks like you recd a cd with the pics and the letter in .doc format

what's the inventor expecting ?


the model is nice .. simple .. credible .. and the animation flash movie clearly explains the principle involved

..peekay

(where can one see the perendev type of motor .. to compare the similarity ?)
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dear friend
   
  thanks a lot for info.i would like to get some more info about investing in mr.filipiak's work.it is an exciting info.post me if you can.
   
   
                                                                                       nilesh modhwad
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Dear Andrzej:Is there any chance of posting an English translation of the printed pages on your website?Do you have any information about whether the invention has been sold, or if it has not not, what arrangements Mr. Filipiak would prefer?Best regards,
Sam Smith
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How was the output power measured? Has the Filipiak motor run for days producing 10 watts outputpower continuously? What is the torque output of the motor at 20 RPM (2.09 rad/sec)?

vcrepair@juno.com
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 hi
 the output power due to low RPM was not measured directly. There was  used a high efficiency calibrated DC motor supplied with regulated  DC which behaved as a brake.> regards Andrzej (budinst)
vcrepair@juno.com
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>
> DC motors are only efficient at normal RPM.
>
> To use a DC motor as a "brake" and measure the input electrical
> power IS NOT very accurate.
>
> Why not use a permanent magnet field type small DC motor
> as a generator and measure the electrical power output?
>
> You will need to "gear up" the ratio between the Fillipiak motor
> and the DC motor/generator, since typical small DC motors
> run at several thousand RPM.
>
> Something like a cordless screwdriver would work since those
> run at low RPM output with a DC motor providing power.
>
> Then just multiply that by inverse of the load motor/generator
> efficiency. For example if motor/generator was 75% efficient
> then 1 watt electrical output would be 1/.75 = 1.33 watts total
> power input.
>
> Or just have the Fillipiak motor with pulley and string lift a weight
> and measure how far and how fast it rises.
>
> 1 KG mass on Earth gravity is 9.8 Newtons.
> 9.8 Newtons * 1 meter = 9.8 Joules
> 9.8 Newtons * 1 meter/second = 9.8 Watts.
>
> SO if a pulley and string on that Fillipak motor could lift
> 1 KG weight at 1 meter per second, that would be about
> 10 watts of output power.
>
> 20 RPM = 2.09 Radians/second
>
> (1 meter/sec) / (2.09 radians/sec) = 0.478 meters radius
>
> To be practical make pulley diameter 5 cm radius, then
> 5 cm * 2.09 radians/second = 0.1045 meters/second.
>
> 1 meter / 0.1045 meter = 9.76 KG mass lifted on Earth
> gravity at 0.1045 meters/second = 10 watts.
>
> So 10 KG mass and 10 cm diameter pulley or so with
> string that wraps around pulley and lifts weight, just
> measure how far and fast it rises to calculate the power.
>


> vcrepair@juno.com
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I know that this method of output power measurement gives large error, but now i havn't got anything better. In one month i will meet this guy and measure real torque of this motor at such a low RPM. I expect that output power will be significantly lower. Even 100 times.. But anyway, there is another load - a coil below rotor, which now supplies LEDs. I wil ltry to supply the synchronising motor from this current via micropower voltage regulator. This motor is a second prototype. Mr filipiak has first 1st prototype, without synchronising motor. i will ask him for it
budinst
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> for such small input power and large output power, why doesn't he just
> find a way to substitute the battery for a capacitor charged by excess
> power from the large output power available?
>
> How long have you seen it run for?    Is he willing to demonstrate it
> openly?

> vcrepair@juno.com






Title: Re: FILIPIAK Motor Replication
Post by: pese on May 03, 2006, 03:31:49 PM
if the electrical power is sinus wave following , you ca rectify  (use elko min 1000mf foe any 2AMP (if 50Hz  - othrtwise  higer or lower caps need. and  uses for load (and mesurements) preffered ohm- resistor loads or blubs (lamps)

if other waves come from outpute , spikes , rf and so on (newman motor  ?with brushes) (sparks) ONLY
use bubs lamps to test (als thermal(ligning) coupler , for cheapes and best way.
ro read the power , you must take onother lamp (same value) and power this by
powersupply , regulate the voltage to same lightning power as the other.

to be "accurate" adjust with luxmeter , candle meeter or with photgraph-ligning -meter.

if adjusted by intrument (or eyes) reed the voltage and amps on the power suplly to ave the
VA = Watt , that are 100 % identical to the power of the test oblect.

dieter
http://ch.to/FE (german)