Hi,
here some mail " discussion":
What are those exe files? I would never trust running them.
Norman Bollinger
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That site is as good an example of bad communication
as it is possible to find. I expect he is selling
shares.
Paul.
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If people cant loop simpler things yet I doubt they can replicate
and FINISH the guys invention and R&D .
(Anyways interesting ) but such powerfull array of magnets and cant
hit 1KW ?
""" braaaapppp ! (not cost effective )
Cant compete with a 120W solar cell at $700 (retail) versus the
$17,000 per 10W if it ever goes retail ...
Something like the 2and half ton newman Motor ( I certify is OU ) but
also certify is a big piece of shit junk on the practical aplication
side ... Demostrating OU is no longer the Point ,its the screwy
aplications that require atention ...
Untill RV there was nothing to move a Lathe a Drill or a Konehead
Lawnmower in practical power level and using standard off the shelve
frames ...
Thing this man have of value is the principle used to attain the
effect ... Question is ? Will he share it ?
Hector
Use a PM gen and RV or a Kone Muller RV driven mix ...
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Hi Hector,
You are right, that it's better to buy solar panel or to cope with RV. It was not my intention to focus only on this motor, but just to show the conception that works - Mr Filipiak's motor. I'm not so sure about Perendev one. It doesn't really mettter that it gives only 10W of power for free - it is just a model, without any optimisation. The inventor is not engineer, and he built it because science didn't tell him that it is impossible . The picturees shown at
www.budinst.com/FILIPIAK_MOTOR (user=budinst ; password=energy) primary as raw files(sorry), then as simple webpage was placed there just in order to widen our horizons in free energy. Every invention can potencially lead to other inventions. The photos were taken by my friend "GREG" on 13th April when he visited personally the inventor and saw working device. He also did some memasurements personally
cheers, AW (budinst)
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Its ok to focus on Broadband R&D, we can find a lot of concepts
leading to universal truth , integrating that universal truth is the
difficulty , turning it into aplications a nightmare ...
Hector
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looks like you recd a cd with the pics and the letter in .doc format
what's the inventor expecting ?
the model is nice .. simple .. credible .. and the animation flash movie clearly explains the principle involved
..peekay
(where can one see the perendev type of motor .. to compare the similarity ?)
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dear friend
thanks a lot for info.i would like to get some more info about investing in mr.filipiak's work.it is an exciting info.post me if you can.
nilesh modhwad
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Dear Andrzej:Is there any chance of posting an English translation of the printed pages on your website?Do you have any information about whether the invention has been sold, or if it has not not, what arrangements Mr. Filipiak would prefer?Best regards,
Sam Smith
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How was the output power measured? Has the Filipiak motor run for days producing 10 watts outputpower continuously? What is the torque output of the motor at 20 RPM (2.09 rad/sec)?
vcrepair@juno.com
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hi
the output power due to low RPM was not measured directly. There was used a high efficiency calibrated DC motor supplied with regulated DC which behaved as a brake.> regards Andrzej (budinst)
vcrepair@juno.com
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>
> DC motors are only efficient at normal RPM.
>
> To use a DC motor as a "brake" and measure the input electrical
> power IS NOT very accurate.
>
> Why not use a permanent magnet field type small DC motor
> as a generator and measure the electrical power output?
>
> You will need to "gear up" the ratio between the Fillipiak motor
> and the DC motor/generator, since typical small DC motors
> run at several thousand RPM.
>
> Something like a cordless screwdriver would work since those
> run at low RPM output with a DC motor providing power.
>
> Then just multiply that by inverse of the load motor/generator
> efficiency. For example if motor/generator was 75% efficient
> then 1 watt electrical output would be 1/.75 = 1.33 watts total
> power input.
>
> Or just have the Fillipiak motor with pulley and string lift a weight
> and measure how far and how fast it rises.
>
> 1 KG mass on Earth gravity is 9.8 Newtons.
> 9.8 Newtons * 1 meter = 9.8 Joules
> 9.8 Newtons * 1 meter/second = 9.8 Watts.
>
> SO if a pulley and string on that Fillipak motor could lift
> 1 KG weight at 1 meter per second, that would be about
> 10 watts of output power.
>
> 20 RPM = 2.09 Radians/second
>
> (1 meter/sec) / (2.09 radians/sec) = 0.478 meters radius
>
> To be practical make pulley diameter 5 cm radius, then
> 5 cm * 2.09 radians/second = 0.1045 meters/second.
>
> 1 meter / 0.1045 meter = 9.76 KG mass lifted on Earth
> gravity at 0.1045 meters/second = 10 watts.
>
> So 10 KG mass and 10 cm diameter pulley or so with
> string that wraps around pulley and lifts weight, just
> measure how far and fast it rises to calculate the power.
>
> vcrepair@juno.com
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I know that this method of output power measurement gives large error, but now i havn't got anything better. In one month i will meet this guy and measure real torque of this motor at such a low RPM. I expect that output power will be significantly lower. Even 100 times.. But anyway, there is another load - a coil below rotor, which now supplies LEDs. I wil ltry to supply the synchronising motor from this current via micropower voltage regulator. This motor is a second prototype. Mr filipiak has first 1st prototype, without synchronising motor. i will ask him for it
budinst
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> for such small input power and large output power, why doesn't he just
> find a way to substitute the battery for a capacitor charged by excess
> power from the large output power available?
>
> How long have you seen it run for? Is he willing to demonstrate it
> openly?
> vcrepair@juno.com