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Author Topic: Another HV / space-time experiment  (Read 3950 times)

ckreol1

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Another HV / space-time experiment
« on: July 04, 2010, 06:03:07 AM »
Hi everyone,
Just had another idea I wanted to share. I'm preparing to try this experiment.  I'll post results to this forum.

An experiment to determine if a uniform electrostatic field will effect the strength of a magnet in relation to an external observer

Hypothesis: When a magnet is placed in a uniform high potential electrostatic field, it will cause an observer in an external frame of reference to detect a different magnetic field strength than when the magnet is not in potential electrostatic field.

This experiment is designed to determine if an electrostatic field is able to effect the local space-time continuum in a manner similar to gravity.  If it is, then other effects such as changes in the speed of the passage of time and changes in mass in reference to an external observer can be inferred.

Setup: (figure 1 - see attached) A magnet is placed inside an aluminum tube.  The aluminum tube is completely insulated on the outside to prevent ionization, left bare on the inside, and it is charged to a high voltage. In an adjacent grounded aluminum tube, a linear Hall effect sensor is placed.  Analog electrical circuitry is used to amplify and view the output reading of the Hall effect sensor.  The circuitry is able to detect extremely small variations in magnetic field strength. The magnets placement is adjusted to provide the maximum reading on the output meter. 

Regarding the magnet, it is wrapped in high voltage electrical tape or otherwise insulated.  This reduces the variables in this experiment be eliminating the possibility of charge transfer between the magnet and the surrounding aluminum pipe.

Testing the setup:

I. Testing the setup without the magnet. 
   1. The magnet is removed from the pipe, both pipes are then grounded and a reading is taken from the Hall effect    sensor.
   2. The magnet is removed from the pipe, that pipe is then charged to a high potential and a reading is taken from the Hall effect sensor.

Expected result: No change in the reading of the Hall effect Sensor


Experiment

I.
1. The magnet is placed in the pipe and a reading is taken from the Hall effect sensor while the pipe containing the magnet is grounded.
2. The magent is placed in the pipe and a reading is taken from the Hall effect sensor while the pipe containing the magnet is charged to a high DC electrostatic potential.

Expected result: If the hypothesis is true, then there will be a change in the reading of the Hall effect sensor output.


Variables to test:

1. A test should be made to ensure that the electrostatic field inside the pipe is uniform. The could be done with the following circuit or a variation:
 figure 2 (see attached)source: http://amasci.com/emotor/chargdet.html

2. Both positive and negative electrostatic fields could be tried. 
3. Different strength electrostatic fields can be used.  If this experiment produces results, a higher potential fields will result in a higher reading on the Hall effect sensor.


exnihiloest

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Re: Another HV / space-time experiment
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2010, 12:20:32 PM »
What you want to test is named "gauge invariance" (does a physics phenomenon depend on potential?).
The question is still in little debat but the vast majority of physicists have already answered "no" and to support their affirmation they have provided much more accurate experiments than this one you project (physics phenomena in a Faraday cage do not depend on the potential of the cage. Physics experiments on earth are not disturbed by the fact that the earth is at 200 MV from the mean potential of the solar system...).

Here is the conclusion of this paper (in French)
http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-26j/aflb26jp345.pdf

"It is the gauge invariance that permits local experiments. It is locally very accurately verified by the functionning of very numerous devices. I will name in particular the lasers of the GPS in the satellites. In space lie electrostatic potentials of megavolts relative to the earth as well as its vector potential. No anomaly was observed, according to current theory. Gauge invariance could only be disproved by experiments with an exceptionnal accuracy which would contradict quantum mechanics as usually accepted."


« Last Edit: July 04, 2010, 12:47:33 PM by exnihiloest »

ckreol1

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Re: Another HV / space-time experiment
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2010, 05:03:06 PM »
Thanks for the post.  I appreciate your knowledgable reply.  Clearly, I have been operating under an incorrect assumption. 

Thanks!

sm0ky2

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Re: Another HV / space-time experiment
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2010, 10:37:58 PM »
Thanks for the post.  I appreciate your knowledgable reply.  Clearly, I have been A under an incorrect assumption. 

Thanks!

the type of phenomena you are chasing do not occur from a static field, but rather from a fluxuating / oscillating one.
and potential only plays a role in the size/effective area of the phonemena produced.
These are frequency dependent. and depending on the frequency, there are a lot of anomolies that occur.
most are defined in well-known models of einstein's unified field theory.





ckreol1

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Re: Another HV / space-time experiment
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 03:16:58 PM »
sm0ky,
Can you provide some more details about the anomolies you referenced?

I've had trouble locating additional info on google.