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Title: Aetheric propulsion patent I found while I was browsing...
Post by: raisdfist on July 01, 2010, 01:38:31 AM
did anybody seen anything like this before?

http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/2541517/summary.html?section=claims&modificationDate=20100331&page=1&scale=25&rotation=0&type=basic_search&query=aether&start=1&num=50#View_Images

I was just wondering what you guys think about that, I find that it was an interesting read
Title: Re: Aetheric propulsion patent I found while I was browsing...
Post by: ElectricGoose on July 01, 2010, 01:58:16 AM
did anybody seen anything like this before?

http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/2541517/summary.html?section=claims&modificationDate=20100331&page=1&scale=25&rotation=0&type=basic_search&query=aether&start=1&num=50#View_Images

I was just wondering what you guys think about that, I find that it was an interesting read

Another useless piece of paper sitting at the patent office.  The only reason this 'patent' (and I don't know why it can be called that since it describes nothing and details none of the invention outline - merely an IDEA) survived the censorship process was because it contains a big fat zero.  A couple of paragraphs outlining a notion and a diagram of a ball/mass + shield.

E-Goose
Title: Re: Aetheric propulsion patent I found while I was browsing...
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 01, 2010, 03:28:05 PM
oddly enough, what is described in this patent, is precisely the technology believed to be used by "UFO's"
Title: Re: Aetheric propulsion patent I found while I was browsing...
Post by: void109 on July 01, 2010, 03:59:18 PM
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The secondary role of this shield is to remove the effect of inertia. Inertia
is the absorption of aether particles in accelerating body. The faster a body
moves, the greater its mass becomes as a result of the collection of greater
amounts of aether within the body.

This sounds quite contrary to observed phenomenon, no?  No relativity here.  As I accelerate, at higher speeds, I would observe myself having more inertia, not relative to some initial reference point, but period.  Even minute local adjustments of velocity/direction would be difficult at high speeds.  Sounds wrong to me.
Title: Re: Aetheric propulsion patent I found while I was browsing...
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on July 02, 2010, 02:57:05 AM
Quote from: raisdfist link=topic=9381.msg247304#msg247304 =1277941111
did anybody seen anything like this before?
Just so you know:  I may need to try this on another computer because I get an Error 404 : File Page Not Found
And this happens every time I try looking on this publicly available computer lab.

I can go elsewhere, but it'll be Trial-and-Error until I've tried all desktop units available to me.

--Lee
Title: Re: Aetheric propulsion patent I found while I was browsing...
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 02, 2010, 07:51:18 AM
This sounds quite contrary to observed phenomenon, no?  No relativity here.  As I accelerate, at higher speeds, I would observe myself having more inertia, not relative to some initial reference point, but period.  Even minute local adjustments of velocity/direction would be difficult at high speeds.  Sounds wrong to me.

this patent was based on an aetheric theory, where-in all space is permeated by an interconnected aether.   Momentum, inertia, acceleration, the speed of light, fluxuations in space-time, or even motion in general, are all governed by their interaction with the aether. 
The patent assumes this aether can be manipulated by an EMF, and thus the effects of the eather on the moving body no longer apply. i.e. traveling at 1600mph in one direction, then suddelny reversing and going the other way. essentially giving the craft no frame of reference for "momentum" to apply, unless of course it hits a physical object...  although according to the man who walked through the berlin wall, that too can be controlled by an EMF of the right frequency.

Einstein spent a good portion of his life trying to disprove the eatheric theory, and while i personally don't think he ever succeeded, he managed to convince himself that he had.


Title: Re: Aetheric propulsion patent I found while I was browsing...
Post by: Archmax on August 07, 2010, 02:38:15 PM
Please check it. Is it reliable?
http://arxiv.org/abs/1006.5026
Title: Re: Aetheric propulsion patent I found while I was browsing...
Post by: CompuTutor on August 08, 2010, 08:13:10 AM
That was a nice read Archmax,
some other works by the author:

Aether and gravitational wave from electromagnetic-dynamics equations
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1006.5026v4

Low-Dimensional Physics Opened Up by Dimensional Downfolding
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1007.4429v1

Spin density functional study on magnetism
http://arxiv.org/pdf/0909.4432v1

Electronic structure of A-type antiferomagnetic
http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0508751v1

http://arxiv.org/find/grp_physics/1/au:+Nohara%5fYoshiro/

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-abs_connect?return_req=no_params&author=Nohara,%20Yoshiro&db_key=PRE
("X" leads to PDF download pages)
Title: Re: Aetheric propulsion patent I found while I was browsing...
Post by: Archmax on August 09, 2010, 08:21:28 PM
Thanks CompTutor for checking about the author. It seems his first work of field theory.
But I cannot know if it is true or not. From his paper, aether is scalar fields themselves
because all fields (E and B) are written by those. Charges and currents also are written.
Can his theory explain any experiments or nature? The scalar wave interacts with light. Really? Can anybody try to proof that?
Title: Re: Aetheric propulsion patent I found while I was browsing...
Post by: sparks on August 10, 2010, 06:39:01 AM
This sounds quite contrary to observed phenomenon, no?  No relativity here.  As I accelerate, at higher speeds, I would observe myself having more inertia, not relative to some initial reference point, but period.  Even minute local adjustments of velocity/direction would be difficult at high speeds.  Sounds wrong to me.

   If your inertia was such that it was a rotating frame then you would stay put.  By staying put you would appear to move at millions of miles per second if the aether itself is moving expanding or inflating.  A fish in a river current flowing at 2o meters a second has no problem moving from spot to spot within the mass of the moving water.  It is no harder for the fish to swim upstream or downstream in the inertial frame of the moving water,  If the fish approaches the bottom then the relative at rest potential energy of the fish becomes observable.
Title: Re: Aetheric propulsion patent I found while I was browsing...
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on August 10, 2010, 07:12:36 PM
...The scalar wave interacts with light. Really? Can anybody try to proof that?
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5564-my-questions-about-scalar-waves.html

Can gravity from a black hole interact with light?  Yes.
Is gravity scalar?  Well, as an example, stars in space have gravity fields that theoretically extent to infinity?  Is that so?  But, as "waves" they're out of phase with each other, so they can't be scalar by being out of phase.  They can have a vector by going in a particular direction with respect to other stars, yes?
Assuming gravity is also wavelike in constituency, that is.  I'm speculating as I go along, since this concept is new to my understanding.

Comments on this are welcomed by me.

--Lee