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Gravity powered devices => Gravity powered devices => Topic started by: iacob alex on June 30, 2010, 02:08:46 PM
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...concept,this time with three spare parts,only (a wire,a magnet and a battery),you can find easy on youtube .
If you agree,we have one spare part ,only (the wire) ,the two others representing the playing fields and the power source.
For instance,take a look at: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOdboRYf1hM
You can find so many others...
Regarding the topic of this forum,if the simplicity is the "top view" (and the commencement...) of the understanding,knowledge ...why not to think alike?!
"Two sticks game..." is an easy practical proposal...not only on youtube...
All the best! / Alex
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.....or a homopolar motor,a simplified electric motor,made from only a battery,a magnet and a wire,you can notice (and "reproduce" so easy,then play) ,if you take a look at this address on net: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aPQqNt15-o
Let's say,as a fancy,that the power source (battery) is "perpetual"...has it the "status of PM"?
Sure,this is a nonsense:an electrical battery,an electric voltage difference (a limited power storage) is a temporary current source...we must replace it again and again.
But how about a gravitational level difference (gravitational potential fall),if we presume it as a "battery" (perpetual mechanical power storage) ?!
As an analogy,with the simplest electric motor,thinking about the possibility to imagine the simplest gravity motor,we have:
-battery(current) ~ gravity (fall)
-magnet ~inertial property of space
-wire ~ ?...here is your suggestion !...
All the best! / Alex
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Maybe we should focus on gravity powered motors in this area? :)
Vidar
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Hi !
A gravity (powered) motor is a better denomination than the classical PM (perpetual motion machine-a machine that can continue to work indefinitely,without drawing energy from some external source ).
As a "black box problem",with no input ,it's an absurd,ridiculous,meaningless "puzzle"...you know the history of this "toxic" description.
A motor is a device (machine) that converts any form of energy into mechanical energy.
An electric motor converts electricity into mechanical motion.
A possible gravity motor ,is supposed to convert natural gravity motion into workable mechanical power.
A possible gravity powered motor,can draw energy from a "perpetual input" (gravitational level difference can be an analogous of the electric"battery" ):so,
the "black box problem" has an input.
If we have the simplest electrical motor,why not the simplest gravity (powered) motor,also?!
All the best! / Alex
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.....can it be an electric motor (three spare parts,only) ,or a possible gravity motor (how many spare parts?!) ,they have a common conceptual element :the power supply.
An electric battery is a temporary,used only for a time energy source.
A gravity level difference is for ever,at any time...perpetual spring,mechanical power source.
We know that gravity potential is "m*g*h" ,so we can play,vary "m" and "h" ,for the same potential power input.
Thinking about the everlasting friction ,this "motion taxation" ,we can minimize the "m" /mass equivalent...and lengthen the "h"/fall (size).
All the best! / Alex
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You can make a motor that uses little power and works as a pulse motor, see http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9737 (http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9737)
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...for the beggining,is no more than a simple proposal to think about,imagine a gravity powered device (gravity motor).
Regarding the electrical motor concept,we have the proof of simplicity:battery,magnet and wire (take a look on net).
Regarding the possibility to imagine a gravity motor,in the same plain manner,simplicity...we must take into account how many spare parts?
All the best! / Alex
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....thinking as a general principle,is a device consisting of fixed and moving parts ,that modifies energy (electrical,mechanical) and transmits it in a more useful form.
As we can see movies on youtube. com ,the play with the simplest electrical motor,involves no more than a power source and two fields.
If we have in mind a possible gravity motor,we need (and have...) a "perpetual" power source (gravity potential difference/gravity fall)...remains to imagine a "game" between two physical fields.
Maybe,we must think in the terms of mesodynamics,a domain between classical and quantum physics.
All the best! / Alex
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.....with a rotating wire , at : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VhaYLnjkf1E
...or with a rotating lever,at : http://www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text028.JPG
Al_ex