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Solid States Devices => solid state devices => Topic started by: hartiberlin on April 14, 2006, 06:18:43 AM
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Hi All,
Lindsay Mannix has uploaded to me this new video.
It is really great, but unfortunately as Steven Mark explained
how it worked, the audio was muted... Too bad.
Anyway, the only thing I can say is:
I want one too !
Have a look at this yourself.
You need to unzip the 23 parts and then you get an AVI video
file which you can play via Windows Mediaplayer or Mediaplayer Classic.
You should at least have DIVX.COM Codec Version 5.21 installed or later.
The audio is in MP3.
Each main part is 5 Mbytes big, only
the start ZIP fileis just only 721 Kbytes big.
Use Winzip or WinRAR to unzip the parts to get the 115 Mbytes AVI file.
Okay, here are the files now:
www.overunity.com/stevenmark/ (http://www.overunity.com/stevenmark/)
Regards, Stefan.
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The first file to download should be saved as stevennew_split.z01 instead of stevennew_split.zip.
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Hallo Steven and Lindsay
thanks for showing the video but i did not see the rotating compass? that was which i gladly would to see!
regards
Norbert
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The first file to download should be saved as stevennew_split.z01 instead of stevennew_split.zip.
it can be also: rename the stevennew_split.zip to stevennew_split.z00. than open it with the zip programm.
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Hi all ,
Glad that you like the movie!
It took all night on a dialup to get it there.
The audio mute was un fortunate I tried my best to clean the audio but some parts were just not there ..it was not done on purpose and he has revealed much more in the texts anyway.
cheers
Lindsay Mannix
PS Thanks to Stephan for gettin it on line so quickly.
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If you have problems with the extraction,
just install WinRAR.de packer and rightclick onto
stevennew_split.zip
and click
extract to here
and it will extract the AVI file.
Yes, too bad it is only a 320x240 resolution and pretty darkly taped,
so one can not see much detail.
But it is really an amazing technology.
I really want such a unit....
Maybe it is really based on Barkhausen jumps oscillation excitation...
who knows...
Maybe Lindsay can ask Steven, what kind of core he is using
and if it is using some Barkhausen excitation effect.
but then it would probably need the right iron inside the
cores...at least the ones in the bigger 1 KWatts unit..in the center,
where you can see these 2 toroidal cores...
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I would think that a magnatite core would work very well. It does not conduct, therefore no eddy currents and it makes a wonderful magnetic core.
Hartiberlin,
Do you know of a good (low cost) magnetic field or hall effect meter? One would need this to get you in the ball park to make a device like this work.
Liberty
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In the video, at 6:20s, why Steven turns upside down the small device after disconnect the lamp?
it will stop working when he turn it upside down so he can use it like a switch to turn off/on.
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But it is really an amazing technology.
I really want such a unit....
Maybe it is really based on Barkhausen jumps oscillation excitation...
who knows...
Maybe Lindsay can ask Steven, what kind of core he is using
and if it is using some Barkhausen excitation effect.
but then it would probably need the right iron inside the
cores...at least the ones in the bigger 1 KWatts unit..in the center,
where you can see these 2 toroidal cores...
he said already that no iron is involved. so it has nothing to do with the Barkhausen effect.
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Hi Tao,
I read your description of how you think the device operates. I somewhat agree.
I will give a short version of how I understand the device as well.
I saw a Marks device in one of the movies that was not taped up (concealed), but showed windings on the lower ring and magnets placed on each side of the upper ring. The magnets did not touch the upper ring but were placed close to it. I think that the upper ring created a magnetic field at the point of the coil, that is equal to the earth's magnetic field (~.5 gauss). I think that the locally created magnetic field 'beats together' with the earth's magnetic field at the point of the windings. (The earth's magnetic field is delayed due to the extra distance traveled in comparison to the local magnet field). This creates points in time, (where the coil is wound), where the magnetic field is "cancelled" and then reappears. This is due to the "hetrodyne" effect of the magnetic fields beating together; similar to an AM radio IF section. The 5khz frequency is created from the pulsing of the magnetic field in the lower ring where the copper windings are at due to the beating together or hetrodyning effect of the earth's magnetic field and the local magnetic field.
We know that in order to induce a voltage in a coil, you must have an increasing magnetic field and/or a collapsing magnetic field. This must occur in the Steven Marks device in order to convert a magnetic field into electrical power.
The reason power is not generated in a standard coil (the coil being enveloped in the earth's magnetic field), is because the magnetic field of the earth is constant, or at such a high frequency (perhaps ultra violet range) that it is the same as constant, and does not induce a voltage in the coil. However when a magnetic field is combined with the earth in exactly the proper amount, it may beat together with the earth's magnetic field (effectively lowering the frequency, like an IF section in an AM radio) producing a device similar to Steven Marks' device. The heating problem that Steven Marks had must have been eddy currents in the solid metal that he used for the ring. If it was lamenated or used Magnetite, I think it would work very nicely without the heat up.
Just my take on the device, and how I think it operates, for what it's worth.
Liberty
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Since the Marks device is taking advantage of what naturally occurs, that being a natural magnetic field of the earth, it probably is not totally patentable. Perhaps only certain circuits or methods within his device. The US patent office will not patent something that nature produces naturally such as the earth's magnetic field.
The 'ultimate' Over Unity energy device that God created and gave us; (the earth's magnetic field) has been here from the beginning, and has always been waiting there for us (hidden in plain sight) and is intended for everyone to richly enjoy. So lets see if we can start receiving what God has freely given to us to freely enjoy!
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Probably we comes over a similar Barkhausen-effect method to a
force-field first founded by Casimir,Zero Point sphere !
The used,special material, coils can build a kind of superconduction,
under RT-conditions.
S
dL
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Hi all,
Steven has kindly answered to some comments here ..please keep it positive, please be carefull of assumptions..read all of this topic and especially Stevens comments, before asking stuff and who knows?
Did i ever mention that he does have a sence of humor!
Lindsay Mannix
Dearest Lindsay,
I have read some of the response at the web site.
It is a bit more encouraging then I was expecting.
I have one comment about what KOSH said in regard to the clamp meter.
The meter measures anything powerful in regard to electron flow based on the strength of magnetic field.
So the meter displays that there is OBVIOUSLY a LARGE magnetic field inside the coil!!!!!
If the meter says five amps just from a contact high, that means there is one helava lot of power spinning around inside there!
It amazes me how elementary that example is and yet the geniuses on line say, Whats the meter for?.....It aint clamped on anything...
One engineer from a large American power company told me that the meter says more then anything else about the demonstration. You cant fool the meter, it must have a strong field to react and show a current. So, it aint batteries and it ant radio waves, but it is electron flow of a high order creating a large magnetic field. Or vice versa? Ha, Ha!!!
Sincerely,
SM
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Hi Lindsay and Steven,
why can?t Steven not tell us, what he wants for this technology or
if he sold it to UEC, what they want to have for it ?
Just teasing us with these amazing videos is a bit sadistic, as we can?t
image how it really works and why is then Steven not just saying;
I want to have 10 Million US$ for the knowhow or whatever else,
or what he is really about to want to do with the technology.
ALso, what about the patents ?
He said, there were patents issued, but so far I havenot found
any patents on this technology scanning patents with his name
nor with UEC or the other guys name in it ( the boss of UEC)
So, what is the purpose at all to show these videos, if
only videos are shown, but no info is given, what the inventor
or the license receiver wants ??
Regards, Stefan.
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So the meter displays that there is OBVIOUSLY a LARGE magnetic field inside the coil!!!!!
You cant fool the meter, it must have a strong field to react and show a current. So, it aint batteries and it ant radio waves, but it is electron flow of a high order creating a large magnetic field. Or vice versa? Ha, Ha!!!
Sincerely,
SM
I have a question for SM.
Since the magnetic field from the earth is in the order of .5 gauss, would this be enough magnetic field strength to create this much power as in your ring device?
Liberty
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I rewatched the video again and here are 2 more things I noticed.
1. At: 6:50 minutes Steven switches on the biggest device and says:
Switching on the first frequency and then switching on the second frequency....
So he uses 2 different frequencies !
So it could be really some kind of beating frequency produced by mixing two
carrier frequencies and using the difference frequency for the output....
2. at 25:23 he says
"....this is part of the converter circuit here, which takes the
12 Volts direct current, 5000 cycle output......"
Hmm, this puzzles me, as he did measure the output of the portable coil
device at around 170 Volts DC and not 12 Volts DC !
So what does he mean with this ?
Maybe he just converted a normal 12 Volts DC to 120 Volts AC converter
to accept 170 Volts DC input ?
For what is the relay in it ?
Otherwise, if this would be a fake, he could have hidden a big
12 Volts car battery inside
the inverter and at the input he just measures if there is some
voltage from the device coil ring ( maybe hidden 9 Volts batteries)
and then switches with a relay the internal hidden 12 Volts car battery
to the inverter to produce 120 Volts AC at 3 Amperes , so the output power
is about max. 360 Watts...
But as he also shows the bigger unit with 1 KWatts output, I think it is
genuine and no fake, cause in the bigger 1 KWatts units there are no
big hidden batteries, which could produce so much power....
In the older video the 1 KW unit was sawed into parts and shown, that
there are no hidden batteries...
P.S: One can not see, if he really clamped the clamp meter to the wires
or if he just only used it to use the induction coil from it to show,
how much magnetic "noise" there is inside the unit ?
Also I noticed, that when they went back into the house from the street
there was some more background noise on the videotape...
Was this from any device still working and jamming the videocam ?
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@ tao,
I agree with you, this is dangerous to just give to someone that goes Immediately to the end of the thread, as well as the legal implications ( from their investors to accidental death). One must learn to crawl before they walk.
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Hi all,
I have not seen this latest video. I have a slow modem.
However, I would like to make a general comment in regards to all of this.
Steven wants us to figure this out, the videos speak for themselves.
If his motives were only to raise capital, he would just show them working, like the airport video.
If that was all we had to go on, it could take years just to get to first base.
But, he goes on in the other videos giving us golden clues.
He shows the use of a magnet to start them up.
He says one runs at 7.37 hertz and the other at 6,000hertz.
I think he is doing the best he can under what is probably is a complicated situation.
I thank him for what he has achieved and shared.
Tishatang
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I think in the movie that Steven said that the device is a conversion device. It has no batteries. It uses common things like we use every day. Fence or bailing wire was used in his first device. No super conductors. Magnetic fields and basic electronics - a transformer. Steven said that the power comes from the earth's magnetic field. It is obviously a torroid transformer is what he uses to accomplish this. The coil in order to have electricity induced, must use an alternating magnetic field, but the earth's magnetic field is constant. So the trick to figure out is: How do you fluctuate the earth's magnetic field? For the answer to this, look at my previous post on this thread.
Liberty
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For your convenience, I have restated the explaination here.
I saw a Marks device in one of the movies that was not taped up (concealed), but showed windings on the lower ring and magnets placed on each side of the upper ring. The magnets did not touch the upper ring but were placed close to it. I think that the upper ring created a magnetic field at the point of the coil, that is equal to the earth's magnetic field (~.5 gauss). I think that the locally created magnetic field 'beats together' with the earth's magnetic field at the point of the windings. (The earth's magnetic field is delayed due to the extra distance traveled in comparison to the local magnet field). This creates points in time, (where the coil is wound), where the magnetic field is "cancelled" and then reappears. This is due to the "hetrodyne" effect of the magnetic fields beating together; similar to an AM radio IF section. The 5khz frequency is created from the pulsing of the magnetic field in the lower ring where the copper windings are at due to the beating together or hetrodyning effect of the earth's magnetic field and the local magnetic field.
We know that in order to induce a voltage in a coil, you must have an increasing magnetic field and/or a collapsing magnetic field. This must occur in the Steven Marks device in order to convert a magnetic field into electrical power.
The reason power is not generated in a standard coil (the coil being enveloped in the earth's magnetic field), is because the magnetic field of the earth is constant, or at such a high frequency (perhaps ultra violet range) that it is the same as constant, and does not induce a voltage in the coil. However when a magnetic field is combined with the earth in exactly the proper amount, it may beat together with the earth's magnetic field (effectively lowering the frequency, like an IF section in an AM radio) producing a device similar to Steven Marks' device. The heating problem that Steven Marks had must have been eddy currents in the solid metal that he used for the ring. If it was lamenated or used Magnetite, I think it would work very nicely without the heat up.
Just my take on the device, and how I think it operates, for what it's worth.
Liberty
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But the earth magnet field is a steady "DC" field.
No "AC" field....so how should it then oscillate ?
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Hi Kosh,
I thinkin the big 1 Kwatts unit Steven has 2 oscillators that are powered by small
batteries and that these generate the used 2 primary frequencies, but these then
interact and generate the huge output, this I guess, cause he just switches on the big unit
with an electric switch...
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I looked at the latest video and noticed on the TV that the channel Steven Marks is watching on one of his tests is in Los Angeles on channel 9 KCAL. Only California would have marble floors and gates around a property too. Just thought that was interesting to know where he lives.
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But the earth magnet field is a steady "DC" field.
No "AC" field....so how should it then oscillate ?
I propose to you, that the earth's magnetic field can be cancelled or nullified. A local magnetic field would "mask" the earth's magnetic field and effectively lower the frequency through cancellation of most of the magnetic field frequency. Leaving a roughly 5khz sine wave output such as Steven Marks had on his device.
Or imagine two transmitters. One in orbit around the earth and the other one is just outside in your same city. These transmitters are transmitting the same sine wave at a high frequency. The one that is farther away will lag in time, compared to the one that transmitted just outside of your city. If you combine these signals, many of the sine waves will cancel out each other due to being out of sync. Effectively lowering the frequency of the combined sine wave that is received. The same would happen with a magnetic field. The magnetic fields would partially cancel each other out and what remains is apparently 5khz to induce the power in the coil as in the Marks device.
If you take two magnets that both repel, in exactly the middle of the two fields there is no magnetic pull one way or the other. They cancel each other out because the forces are equal. But if one becomes stronger than the other, you have a "static" or very high frequency magnetic field again.
Liberty
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If you have a pulsating 0 to 0.5 Gauss field you could only extract millivolts
in such a small sized 12 inch device but not 360 Watts !
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Perhaps, but can you think of any other way to convert the power from the earth's magnetic field that would induce power in a coil?
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I think he is using a kind of vortex effect like in the water in the bathtube is accelerated,
the magnetfield of the earh might be accelerated into a vortex...
then it could probably be more power extracted in a small size and the vortex might
suck in more magnetfield from the earth...
Maybe he also just using the magnets only in his device and
just has found a way to violate Lentz law...
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I think he is using a kind of vortex effect like in the water in the bathtube is accelerated,
the magnetfield of the earh might be accelerated into a vortex...
then it could probably be more power extracted in a small size and the vortex might
suck in more magnetfield from the earth...
Maybe he also just using the magnets only in his device and
just has found a way to violate Lentz law...
If he can create a vortex effect, we should be able to replicate this and do it with magnets that are stronger than the earth's magnetic field? How do you think a vortex was made with the device that you have seen in the movie?
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One of the experiments that I have done is to wrap 1 metre length of wire with a smaller wire ie a long coil with a big wire inside.
when you drive the small wire with low impedance sine wave ...the scope hooked to the big wire shows something that to me, was unexpected.
I really do not know if this is a clue of not .It was just something that made me think and realise how little i knew.
This is one of many things that I have done .I do not have a free energy machine.....yet!
Lindsay Mannix
Hi Lindsay,what did it show ?
Could you post a scope shot for analysation ?
Thanks.
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Hi stefan,
I have downloaded all the parts of the video also the win rar and unzip them but it will not show, can you help me out what i do wrong?
greetings
walt
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hi stefan,
its me again I was to fast with the last post, can you not put the whole video on your site for downloading? I got broadband and this should take only 5 minute to download the 112mb.
thanks
walt
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Hi Walt,
just download all the parts to your harddisk and
then rightclick onto the stevennew_split.zip and in the popup
leftclick
Extract to here
via the WinRar symbol.
Then it will extract easily.
To put up one 115 Mbytes file would make too much traffic,
cause several people would need to download it several times
due to download crashes...
I hope this helps.
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Hi Lindsay,
what did your experiment show ?
Could you please post a scope shot for analysation ?
Many thanks.
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Stephan and all,
The experiment that i described is an easy one. I will be more specific. 1 metre of lamp wire(twinflex) wrapped with thin insulated wire..it takes about half an hour. you will get sore fingers!
Drive the thin wire with low frequency sinewave and check out the result from the lamp wire!
I would not have expected pulsed high frequency from this setup.
It is not a free energy generator!
just do it!
Arm chair analysis is will not work here and this may not even be relevant it is just something that was un usual in my limmited understanding of this. It is a simple experiment and it encourages people to be "hands on" so if you have a cro and some basic knowledge of how to use it You could just try it!
Perhaps and just perhaps they are little kicks that could be phased.
An explanation from somebody more experienced that myself could be helpfull.
Lindsay Mannix
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Hi Lindsay and all,
The following link might explain what is going on with your wire experiment and possibly what Steven's device is. Namely, a miniature tesla coil. Standing waves are being created in the wire.
http://www.ttr.com/corum/
Tesla wanted high voltage. But the principal should hold true using small currents and voltages. The basic idea is that standing waves are created to magnify the voltage. It is enferred that the magnification can be much higher than can be with just tuned circuits. The tesla coil should be thought to resemble a tuned pipe organ or like a vibrating guitar string. Along the wire there will be points of high voltage and noids with no voltage. Testa said the best results are with a 1/4 effective wave length.
Steven mentioned the physical size of the coil was important. This would fit the description of a tesla coil.
It is interesting in the article, that the secondary of the tesla coil had a freqency of 5k different that the driving frequency. Is this 5k a coincidence or a another indicator that this is one of Steven's principals?
I hope this helps, I want one too!
Tishatang
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Tishatang,
Thanks for the link . I need to study this as a lot!
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Hi Lindsay and all,
As I reread my link, I realized it did not include the 5k difference in frequency. I cannot find the source of this discussion, but have referenced some links below. The first link shows secondary frequency differences of 5k in one original Tesla.
http://www.totse.com/en/fringe/tesla/tcad.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnifying_Transmitter#Tuned_electrical_circuit
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/teslatutorial/MEASUREMENTS.htm
Lindsay, another possible explanation for your wire experiment is that it is a variation of a trigger coil. As I recall from memory, its design is a transformer with its primary driving the core into satuation. When that happens, the secondary delivers pulse waves.
In your case the wire is the secondary and a virtual core combined. The single wire (secondary) has its virtual core driven into saturation, thus delivering pulse waves.
If your scope is showing high gain, maybe Steven's concept is to couple more than one of them together like gain stages of an amplifier. Or, maybe what you have is the trigger pulse signal source into a mini Tesls coil?
Hope this helps,
Tishatang
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Hi Lindsay and all,
Here is a link to simple experiment about Hertz discovery. A short PDF file that explains the origin of the different beating freq of the Tesla Coil.
http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0602073
Tishatang
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Tishatang
I think your explanation (using magamps, magnetic amplifiers) has sense.
Even more, think about cockroft multiplier. There are some analogies:
- AC input and DC output
- Cockroft multiplies voltage input, SM multiplies flux input
- Inductances vs. capacitors, and magamps vs diodes
Maybe ...
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Hi Steven, Lindsay, et all,
Steven, did you ever give a demo of your device with start-up power provided by a solar panel?
In the large device, do the 2 small toroids together with the 2 cylindrical capacitors form two resonant circuits, at two different and unique frequencies?
Are these two L/C circuits part of two free-swinging [power ?] oscillators?
Does the DC output, with residual RF component, result from some type of rectification of high frequency energy?
Do the two electrolytic capacitors serve as DC output filtering C's?
Are there several smaller ceramic capacitors in parallel with the electrolytic capacitors to give better by-passing at higher frequencies?
Apparently the electrolytics are not absolutely necessary, since they don't appear in the smaller devices.
Some of the videos show two flat, round plates with a certain separation distance.
Are these plates (a good portion of which are air) made of a magnetic metal, such
as steel or iron or transformer laminations?
Are they made of non-magnetic metal, such as aluminium?
From non-metallic material such as plastic or fiberglass?
The lower plate appears to have a coil with few turns. Am I correct to assume that there are two other coils, all three with a 120 degree spacing? Is energy put into these 3 coils in order to create a rotating magnetic field?
Best regards, Earl
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Please help me to watch video . I 'm download video after complete all file and double click on file stevennew_split.zip and extract stevenew.avi to harddisk but winzip say "please insert disk number 1 , the diskette is labeled ELECTRONICS , I don't know why someone in this forum advice rename first file stevennew_split.zip to stevennew_split.z00 or use winrar to open i'm try all but can't help.
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Please help me to watch video . I 'm download video after complete all file and double click on file stevennew_split.zip and extract stevenew.avi to harddisk but winzip say "please insert disk number 1 , the diskette is labeled ELECTRONICS , I don't know why someone in this forum advice rename first file stevennew_split.zip to stevennew_split.z00 or use winrar to open i'm try all but can't help.
you shoud copy all files to the same directory then rename *.zip to *.z00, open this file with winrar or winzip and extract it. that is all.
else you try it with the newest version of winzip or winrar.
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you shoud copy all files to the same directory then rename *.zip to *.z00, open this file with winrar or winzip and extract it. that is all.
else you try it with the newest version of winzip or winrar.
Thankyou "rensseak" for your advice I 'm new install winzip10 and rename that file now can see movie.
Thankyou again
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Hi Steven, Lindsay, et all,
I have taken another look at the large device video, and it now seems to me that the two toroid coils and two capacitors are an optional power output filter. I say optional since the small devices do not have them. However, it would still be correct engineering practice to include such filtering, and in fact enclose the entire device in a metal box with the output leads passing through feedthrough Pi-Filters. This would keep the environment free of any radiated RF. Eventually one could use a steel box in order to shield the RF magnetic-field components.
The toroids look like standard EMC common-mode line chokes. One of them has a clearly seen insulation strip in the interior hole and there are two separate windings. The two capacitors are probably what are called AC X-capacitors and would be located on the load side.
These would work as very effective low-pass filters, removing RF from the output.
Steven, are the two toroids and two capacitors a line filter - or - oscillator tank circuits?
Steven, have you tried enclosing the devices in a non-magnetic metallic box? A ferric metal box?
Do they still work in such Faraday cages? Are there still inertial effects?
Best regards, Earl
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I think that everyone is getting too hung up on details of hardware based on some fuzzy videos and stills. For instance Earl wants to know what kind of capacitors are used in the 1.5kW coil and someone else wrote about Litz wire. In my opinion attempts to copy the Mark device based on such scanty information that we have is futile without a good understanding of the basic physical principles involved. For that we need to educate ourselves about how the Earth receives energy from the Sun and in what way the Earth?s magnetic field is involved. It cannot be anything as straight forward as cutting lines of flux, changing or collapsing magnetic fields otherwise we would all have these devices whirling away in our lofts by now. Governments have been able to suppress this for sixty years because it depends on phenomenon that are in contradiction with current scientific teachings and military researchers discovered it first. Nethertheless, don?t despise what the textbooks tell you about the geomagnetic field because there are important clues in sources like Wikipedia and the Encyclopedia Brittanica. For example here is a quotation from the latter:
?At a distance of about 60,000 kilometres outwards towards the Sun, the pressure of the solar wind is balanced by the geomagnetic field. This serves an obstacle to the solar wind, and the plasma is deflected around the Earth by the resulting bow shock. The magnetsphere so produced streams out into an elongated magnetotail that stretches several million kilometres downstream from the Earth away from the Sun. The magnetotail can store an enormous amount of energy ? several billion megajoules ? for hours. This occurs through a process called reconnection, in which the interplanetary magnetic field, carried by the solar wind, becomes linked with the magnetic field in the Earth?s magnetosphere. The energy is released in dynamic structural reconfigurations of the magnetosphere called geomagnetic substorms, which often result in the precipitation of energetic particles into the ionosphere, giving rise to flourescing auroral displays.?
This may not be the answer we are looking for but it could provide clues we need. In my opinion the true answer is provided at this site: www.magneticenergy.co.uk . Based on their analysis I hypothesis that solar photons are trapped by the geomagnetic field in the ionosphere and exist as ?source free magnetic fields? or magnetic particles. This is where free energy comes from in my opinion.
With this kind of understanding we can build our own energy coils based on first principles just as we would build a radio transmitter.
Wikipedia key words: Reconnection, magnetosphere, aurora, solar wind, ionosphere
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But the earth magnet field is a steady "DC" field.
No "AC" field....so how should it then oscillate ?
Well, actually you may be wrong. That is what I thought untill I read this article from the University Of Oulu in Finland
ULF waves (geomagnetic pulsations)
http://www.oulu.fi/~spaceweb/textbook/ulf.html
I don't know what to make of this but it could be worth further investigation. How the geomagnetic field could exhibit these ultra low frequency pulsations is not clear. Maybe the magnetosphere is being modulated by the solar wind or there could be some kind of cavity mode resonance going on beneath the ionosphere. Whatever it is, it is going on high above the surface of the Earth so the Mark device would have to be acting as an antenna beaming a signal into space rather like radar, (it is not called 'space energy' for nothing). Once we understand the natural phenomenon that it exploits we can also understand how the Mark coil acts as an antenna. This would be more useful than trying to fathom out it's function from blurry videos.
The thing to bear in mind is this: there is a LOT of energy in the sky. My previous post quotes the Encyclopedia Brittanica as claiming 'billions of magajoules' in the phenomenon of reconnection alone and that is just part of it. There is also the awesome phenomenon of 'sprites' and 'blue jets' also known as 'mega-lightning' in the mesosphere and the lower ionosphere, not to mention the mother of all WMDs.
Check out Magnetospheric Electric Field
http://www.oulu.fi/~spaceweb/textbook/efields.html
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Thanks
Freedomfuel,
The rellevant bits of discovery that Steven has revealed are
Multiple frequencies combining in a space around a collector
Kicks combining to form bigger kicks
Deliberately creating noise
a rotational field that posseses inertia once created
Remember in the large coil demo he says when the "slap" frequencies come together.
Interactions between out of phase xformers
There is no Iron core
They behave as variable tuning devices
They have a natural tendency to run with gain ( positive feedback)
Like Freedomfuel has stated getting a few cap values may not help. Getting kicks to combine is the first step however you do it.
Steven kindly revealed his discovery process so we should really go back to these basics and try to get a result as he did.
Teslas "standing waves" do seem relevant here . It is a jigsaw puzzle and we do not have all the pieces but we do have a few. The question is are we capable of putting them into practice?
The one thing that Steven has revealed is that his process is certainly not conventional and what I like about it most is that it challenges us to understand..not copy ..for this, I for one am gratefull to him . Many others are completely frustrated by it and may be tempted to give up.
My approach at present is wire on wire with circuits like the TEP project .Perhaps several transformers in one circular space creating out of phase interactions.
Lets enjoy the puzzle
Lindsay Mannix
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Hi Freedomfuel,
>I think that everyone is getting too hung up on details of hardware based on some fuzzy videos and stills.
>For instance Earl wants to know what kind of capacitors are used in the 1.5kW coil
I never expressed any interest in knowing what kind of capacitors are being used. What they have
for dielectric doesn't interest me.
Fuzzy videos or not, it is still important to know if these L/C components are oscillator tanks or line fiter.
For example, people have said look at the juicy spark of the big unit, it shows that RF is present.
But if the output goes through a low-pass filter, then there are no RF components on the output.
One can theorize hundereds of years about what esoteric principles may or may not be in play, and refer
to this Web page or that, but we have very little luxury left. In some days, weeks, possiblly months,
all oil supplies from the Middel East may be cut off from one day to the next. News filtering out from GIs
in Iraq say Bush has given an ultimatum to Iran that runs out on April 28.
I personally see the output falling to zero when inverted as proof that the energy source has nothing to
do with magnetic field of any kind, neither Earth's nor Sun's. It is quite obvious that the device is tapping
into an aether flow, perhaps the same one that is pushing all objects to the surface of the Earth. Some
people call this gravity.
I had a lot of questions for Steven in another thread, but no answers unti now. Therefore without any
facts, I have no basis for theorizing about anything. The only thing I presently have are fuzzy videos.
I will be drawing some block diagrams concerning multiple frequencies, as soon as time permits.
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Hi Lindsay,
Has Steven *explicitly* said that the unit uses no magnetic cores / discs / plates ?
Steven has said that his experiments used transformers, and transformers have magnet cores, so at least
his past experiments used magnetic cores even if the Ring of Power does not..
The two toroids definitely use magnetic cores, but my present opinion is they play no role in the concept;
but only RF filtering.
Regards, Earl
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Harti> But the earth magnet field is a steady "DC" field.
Harti> No "AC" field....so how should it then oscillate ?
Freedomfuel> Well, actually you may be wrong.
Dear Freedomfuel,
You also could be absolutely, completely wrong about Steven's device
having any connection to Solar energy, the Earth's magnetic field, the
ionosphere, the magnetosphere, ULF waves, geomagnetic pulsations, etc.
It is also possible that such hypothesized relations deserve no
further study whatsoever. Having designed antennas for over 40 years,
I do not believe the Steven's device is acting as an antenna for
energy high above the Earth.
In my opinion, it is much simpler. Aether is everywhere. The presence
of Earth's mass causes a distortion of aether flow. This aether flux
is what causes all objects to be pushed to the Earth (not pulled by
gravity). His device captures this flux in the form of a rotating
aether vortex. An invisible hurricane. Imagine a ring slightly larger
than a hurricane's vortex and trying to move this ring. Would you feel
resistance to movement?
Your fixed idea that Steven's device ***MUST* be connected to Solar/Earth
interactions could led you down a false path so that you never understand
the phenomena behind its operation.
In my opinion, we should should act like a detective at a crime scene,
pay attention to the facts as presented by Steven and not be led
astray by what we think MUST be. This means the only way to advance
is:
1) to study blurry videos until your eyes turn red
2) ask Steven questions
3) Steven must answer reasonable, non-silly questions on a timely basis
4) forget Steven's device, develop your own theories, built it, change
your theories, rebuilt it, until it works. Your device may have nothing
to do with Steven's and may still work. This approach might even be
faster if the above 3 points are not realized.
At the moment, we don't even know if Steven's device operates on a cause/response
relation, such as putting energy in the form of two frequencies into a "tickler"
monophase coil/multi-phase coils. This tickle than causes an avalanche of energy
into another coil, which might have an orthogonal relation to the tickler coil.
The tickler coil might be monophase, while the collector coil might be multi-
phase. Or vice-versa. Or both could be multi-phase, etc.
Going back to some basic comments by Steven, I have drawn up some images and would
like Steven's comments on them. Since adding two frequencies also gives the sum
and difference, I have isolated the difference frequency with a series capacitor
since it might be a very low frequency causing problems with excessive current due
to insufficient winding inductance. This line of thinking assumes that energy
is being sent to a tickler winding.
I see no way to take a multi-frequency signal and generate, for example, a 3-phase
signal in order to excite 3 windings at 120 degrees physical spacing.
I do see a way to do this, but it would take two sets of independent windings,
in other words 6 windings altogether.
Correction, using B or C might work with only 3 windings, but not sure
about this.
Best regards, Earl
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It's been nine years (at least) since Steven began showing off his device. While you're doing detective work, you might want to dust that 900 pound gorilla for fingerprints. hahaha
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Fantastic!
Constructive and objective input is what really sends us hurtling down the path of discovery and all this time it was fingerprints from a gorrila that we needed ...damm we are so stupid. Nobody could see it. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
I hope you got what you were looking for.
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Actually, I was being polite. :) But since you insist on insulting anyone who dares to challenge the validity of this 'device' I'll be a little more blunt.
Your posts that ramble on and on about how wonderful things will be with free energy... and how 'lucky' we are to be graced with these fuzzy videos and repeated mile long posts about kicks, kicks, KICKS... are have lost their luster for me.
The question remains - why has it been 9 years since the device was invented (at least) and there is not ONE working unit in service anywhere? The plain and simple fact is that it works or it doesn't. If it works - then free energy is here and we can all go home.
So where's it at?
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Actually, I was being polite. :) But since you insist on insulting anyone who dares to challenge the validity of this 'device' I'll be a little more blunt.
Your posts that ramble on and on about how wonderful things will be with free energy... and how 'lucky' we are to be graced with these fuzzy videos and repeated mile long posts about kicks, kicks, KICKS... are have lost their luster for me.
The question remains - why has it been 9 years since the device was invented (at least) and there is not ONE working unit in service anywhere? The plain and simple fact is that it works or it doesn't. If it works - then free energy is here and we can all go home.
So where's it at?
Do you truly think governments and corporations are simply going to say "Yes, we've found free energy. Now everyone use it and destroy the energy sector that is making trillions of dollars."
As for this technology, it's not that hard to understand the concept behind it. The pupose, as Stephen Marks and Mannix have mentioned is to let people learn and understand this technology instead of just build it without a clue. Although, clearly many people just want to build something and watch it work...
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Only nine years ago?
Nope 19 years ago allready.
Why not simply telling us a patent number Steven?
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Hi all,
I think that a bit of perspective is needed here.
For all those who,after reading all the reports by qualified people who have names and are mostly still alive just cant get it , I suggest that you either re-read the reports and comment on them or just watch and read.
The "Yapping terriers of ignorance" will not encourage anything here.
Of course people dont have to believe but..there are videos there are reports so be really objective by all means.
What has a skeptik ever created ?
What has a skeptic ever achieved?
What has a skeptik ever constructed?
Objectivity is quite another thing and some people simply cannot grasp the fact that they have missed something in school.
For my part I will desist from responding to the Yapping dogs it gets nobody any where
Demonstrating your incapacity to grasp a new concept doesnt even serve you.
Lindsay Mannix
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Dear Mr. Mannix,
Please don't get me wrong, I do believe the Stevens' device works.
It just makes me feel sad that after 19 years it is still not on the market.
So many (oil)wars are not needed if only we could buy this device.
With this device we can get free electricity and heat and via a waterpump and electric distillation clean drinkingwater.
Also can we light and heat greenhouses to grow our own food.
This device means freedom.
Maybe that is the reason this device is not found on the market and even patents are not been found.
I am not in it for the money because a patent would stop that anyway and it has never been my goal.
I have had a dream so to say (as a child) just like many others here and that is to build a free energy device because I am so **** sure it is possible to do so.
I have been tinkering myself with mechanical devices but with the birth of the internet I found out that I was reinventing the wheel.
Steven must know how frustrated we are because we can't grasp it yet how his device works.
I for one am frustrated to be honest.
I think I speak for most of us when I say that we are afraid that his device will never get on the market so we must try to get it out of the claws of the powers that be and get it out in the open.
Please do not give up on us.
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Tink and all,
I take your point about why is it not out there so I will attempt to explain something that I have had to reluctantly accept as well.
If we look at various bits of technology over the years and study their history we will find the same disturbing picture but because we are looking in hindsight we are do not feel the isolation of discovery. This is what prompted me in the first instance to investigate the issue. The inventor that is Steven, has an agreement with UEC that prevents him from going into too much detail.It is a fine line for him . There is a concerted effort to bring this into use. Consider the info here not as a relevation of a free energy device but as a place where we may be able to get a few clues and perhaps some practical understanding of the process. This has already happened in many ways... not enough for some ,but enough for those who are prepared to do some hard work to follow in his footsteps.
Is it possible that this, that is this forum is a part of the process of acceptance. You see that some people cannot accept that there is a world outside the one where thay are completely subservient to ideas that were not theirs in the frist place.
Perhaps a circuit will appear here that encompasses everything that Steven has revealed. The problem is that Unless we can grasp the process it would be like handing petrol and matches to a child.
There is much more support out there for those who say "impossible"
I will include the engineers reports in this thread for those who have not had the time to go thru the other one
29 September 1997
Michael Fennell (Consulting Engineer)
8348 Menkar Road
San Diego, CA. 92126
To whom it may concern:
I have been hired by Mr. Green to evaluate the performance of the Toroidal Power Unit or TPU as has been described to me as a proprietary invention of Steven Mark who was until 1995 President and Chief engineer of Spheric Laboratories, a public corporation.
I have been instructed to compare the performance of the TPU with that of any known batteries and other storage systems.
As understood the device is universally observed to have the following characteristics:
Outside Diameter: 6"
Inside Diameter: 5"
Height: 1 - 3/4"
Weight: 12 ounces
Output Power: 250 Watts
Output Voltage: 160 Volts
Voltage Frequency: 5000 Hz.
Duration of Performance: 30 Minutes
To compare the TPU with commercially available and developed batteries I described its performance in terms of -Specific Energy-.
The power delivered by a battery or motor is the amount of energy delivered per unit time.
A 250 Watt device delivers 250 Joules per second. The total energy delivered is the power times the amount of time that the device is on. A 250 Watt power supply that is on for 1 second delivers 250 Joules. Since the TPU was on for a half an hour, it delivered (250W) x (0.5 Hours) = 125 Watt Hour of energy. In Joules that is (250 W) x (1800 s) = 450,000 J.
A convenient way of comparing two energy sources is to compare their specific energies.
The specific energy of a battery is the total power it delivers divided by its weight. For the TPU that would be 125 W-Hour / 0.34 Kg or 367 W-Hour / Kg.
Specific energy is a useful number for comparing power supplies for vehicles and portable electronics, because a battery may deliver a large amount of power, but weigh too much to be useful. If the batteries constitute a large fraction of the vehicle mass, much of the power they supply is used just to move their own mass.
I have included a table comparing the specific energy of the TPU with that of other batteries. Generally, batteries are defined as self-contained electrochemical cells: they burn no fuel and require no outside chemicals.
BATTERY SPECIFIC ENERGY COMPANY
W-Hr / Kg REFERENCE
TPU 367 As Observed
Lithium-iron Disulfide 130 (2)
Lithium 125 Battery Engineer(3)
Sodium Sulfur 100 (2)
Nickel-metal Hydride 75 Energy Conversion Devices.(3)
Zink-Bromide 70 Electro Energy(1)
Nickel Cadmium 56 (2)
Lead-Acid(Experimental) 50 (1)
Lead-Acid(Conventional) 35 (1)
(1) ?Electric-Vehicle Batteries,? H. Oman and Gross Feb. 1995
(2) ?Solar Dome,? Robert Q. Riley
(3) Phone conversation. See text.
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For electric vehicle applications, the most promising near term successor to conventional lead acid batteries are Nickel-Metal-Hydride (NiMH) batteries. These are currently used in laptop computers.
Energy Conversion Devices (ECD) has a large number of patents on NiMH technology, and has licensed the technology to GM in the U.S. and other manufacturers in Europe and South East Asia. To obtain more information on these batteries contact Greg Fritz at ECD (248-363-1750) or John Dunbar at Gold Peak (619-674-5620). Gold Peak Inc. Makes NiMH batteries and is a licensee of ECD. Greg Fritz says that ECD may be able to produce batteries with a specific energy of up to 150 W-Hour / Kg within several years.
Lithium polymer batteries are another promising battery technology. Battery Engineering is bringing out a 125 W-Hour / Kg battery this summer, according to Sal Piazza (619-830-5820), a battery engineer and spokesman.
Capacitors can also be used as energy storage devices. Maxwell Technologies produces a line of ultracapacitors that can achieve extremely high energy storage densities. Their ultracapacitors are used in electric vehicles to capture energy from regenerative brakes and store it for subsequent accelerations.
However, according to Ed Blank at Maxwell (619-279-5100) their capacitors can not possibly match the performance characteristics of the TPU
He said that if their capacitors could match the TPU then he would not be at work; he?d be at the beach.
A small Maxwell capacitive energy storage device system is about 18'x18"x6". It can deliver about 42 W-Hr. The unit described by Ed Blank is designed to deliver 5000 W For 30 seconds at 56 volts. I do not have the weight of the device, but the specific energy should be much lower because the box has 108 times the volume of the TPU.
Two characteristics differentiate the performance of the TPU from batteries. First, it has a 5000Hz AC output. Batteries are strictly DC devices.
Second, its output voltage is very high compared to typical batteries. Batteries are constructed from electrochemical cells with a small fixed voltage; a typical value is 1.5 volts. Higher voltages are achieved by stacking these small cells together in series. Typically the largest stacks are 12 volts.
These higher voltages can not be made arbitrarily large.
Battery cells have internal resistance; if a large number of cells are stacked in a series, each cell in the series will pass all the current delivered by the stack. Consider the concept of the weakest link in a chain.
For example, if ten 1.5 volt cells rated at 1 amp each are stacked together, the stack can only be operated at 1 amp at 15 volts.
Drawing higher current would result in each cell in the stack passing more then its rated 1 amp. This would cause internal changes in the cells which can lead to a cessation of the electrochemical energy producing activity or a buildup of gas with possible explosion.
To use many batteries to create the current and high voltage associated with the TPU would be out of the question.
AC voltages can be obtained from battery based power supplies using converters or actually inverters. However, inverters are built using capacitors and inductors that tend to be bulky. This means that it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to build a 160 volt 5000 Hz power source by linking together a large number of low voltage batteries and the additional inverter electronics in a package with the small size and mass of the TPU.
In Summary:
No known form of battery or capacitor comes close to the performance specifications of the TPU as described. Even the best available lithium batteries would require almost triple the weight to deliver an equivalent amount of energy.
Whatever this device is, it does not seem to be a battery in the conventional sense of a self contained electrochemical cell that burns no fuel and requires no outside chemicals.
Another point to consider is; from what I understand 30 minutes may not be the limit of this device?s performance. If that is the case, it will be proportionally better in performance. For example, if the device is capable of operating at the same power for 60 minutes, this would equate to about six times its weight in the best available lithium batteries that would be required to deliver the equivalent amount of energy.
Sincerely,
Michael Fennell
B.A. Physics, Swarthmore College1983
M.S. Applied Physics, UCSD, 1988
I have worked on projects for NASA.
I have been a project engineer for ENERGY SCIENCE LABORATORIES, a senior technical associate with AT&T BELL LABORATORIES and have been a technical Writer for the HARVARD UNIVERSITY COMMITTEE ON PATENTS AND COPYRIGHTS.
THE ?TPU? POWER SOURCE
I have been asked to prepare this document to address some criticism, which may exist in relation to the ?TPU? power source as developed by Steven Mark. I have seen the various videotapes and have attended live demonstrations of the device in operation. I have also received the feedback and comments of various engineers and experts in electronics and electrical power generation who have also seen the tapes and witnessed live demonstrations.
First of all, there has been some considerable speculation as to the origins of the ?TPU? technology and who actually owns it. It was conceived and developed by Steven Mark and is owned by Universal Energy Corporation and has been legally owned by that company since 1992. I have personally seen the various contracts and summary evidence myself to conclude that the ?TPU? technology is owned by Universal Energy Corporation. I have heard that someone named Brian Collins in Australia has claimed that he invented the technology and has used some of the videotapes to gather sums of money from would be investors. This activity is criminal and Brian Collins did not invent the technology and does not own it or have the right to sell any part of it in any way. Additionally, there have been others that have found a way to ?Cash In? by using the videotapes and claiming they own or represent the technology in some way. This is all very unfortunate because the ?TPU? is a real power source and deserves to be developed by legitimate means. These people in Australia and other places have taken advantage of, and grievously injured the inventor (Steven Mark) and legal owners (UEC) of the ?TPU?.
The second point of criticism is that the ?TPU? is a fake and doesn?t really work. I have received the input of a variety of engineers and technical people. Most relevant is the feedback from two highly qualified individuals. The first of these is Chris Campbell, an experienced Radio Engineer from California, and the second is Roland Shinzinger, a well known authority on power systems, and a Professor Emeritus of Engineering, (UCI).
Mr. Campbell was selected by myself because of his well known expertise in radio and microwave transmission devises. Mr. Campbell was asked to be as skeptical and critical as possible regarding potential ways that these effects might be faked. Dr. Schinzinger was hired by an outside firm and presumably given similar instructions to examine the device for possible fraud or trickery.
Mr. Campbell made it very clear that it was virtually impossible to transmit the necessary energy via radio or electromagnetic means of a magnitude necessary to light all the light bulbs seen lit in the demonstrations. This is especially true because of the inventor?s willingness to drive around town and perform the demonstration anyplace desired.
Neither Campbell nor Dr. Schinzinger, nor any of the other technical personal have been able to find any evidence of fraud or trickery. Nor have they been able to offer a plausible explanation of how the device actually functions.
The ?TPU? units apparently heat up to a potentially dangerous level after a considerable period of time, and must be shut off at that point. This makes some people suspicious of a battery that is being depleted and which must be recharged after a few minutes. However, after having cooled down, the inventor has always managed to start the unit up again and light the lamps again for the same amount of time as before, until the unit heats up again, without removing the device from the observers sight to be ?recharged?. This can apparently be done any number of times, such as the cumulative ?ON? time can be extended to at least 30 or 40 minutes. This is several times longer then the theoretical limit of any kind of concealed battery pack that I, the battery experts or electrical engineers have yet been able to discover. I have personally seen this demonstration at least fifty times.
In point of fact, there is in existence a video tape showing a ?TPU? putting out over 1,000 Volts and lighting ten 100 Watt/ 120 volt light bulbs in series for ten minutes. (I have seen this demonstration in person several times). In order to light ten 120 Volt, 100 Watt bulbs for even five minutes, the size and weight of the batteries necessary would need to be quite large. I have discussed this issue with a number of battery experts who have assured me that such a power supply made of batteries would need to weigh somewhere between 25 and 70 pounds or more. When I asked if there is not some way, perhaps using Nickel-Cadmium or Lithium batteries or some other kind of exotic or extremely expensive batteries, to make such a unit that would weigh less than 20 pounds, they have frequently laughed at the absurdity of the suggestion, insisting that I am asking the impossible. One battery expert told me that by using some kind of extraordinarily expensive new military spec Lithium batteries that he has heard of (but never seen), it might be possible to get closer to a figure of 20 pounds, but that he knew of no battery in existence that would actually power ten 120 volt, 100 watt bulbs for even five minutes that could possibly weigh under 20 pounds. Since the total weight of the larger ?TPU? unit in the demonstration is only about 6 lbs., it seems impossible to do this even if the entire weight of the device consisted only of batteries. The bottom line is; the ?TPU? ain?t a battery.
I understand that an Engineer, Michael Fennell, has written a paper comparing the small ?TPU? in W-Hr / Kg to all the various battery types currently available. In this paper the ?TPU? has an energy storage advantage over the best (Lithium-iron Disulfide) battery of almost three to one!
So, even if the ?TPU? were nothing more then a battery, it must be some new kind of fantastic battery. Therefore, in itself very valuable, regardless.
As a final word, I must say that ?I saw what I saw?. As unbelievable to me as it is. From all I can see, and from all the things the various Engineers and technical experts that have witnessed in the video tapes and live demonstrations, so far the device appears to be most genuine.
David Doleshal PhD.
800-920-4292
PO BOX 5165
Balboa Island, CA.
92662
THE ?TPU? POWER SOURCE
I have been asked to prepare this document to address some criticism, which may exist in relation to the ?TPU? power source as developed by Steven Mark. I have seen the various videotapes and have attended live demonstrations of the device in operation. I have also received the feedback and comments of various engineers and experts in electronics and electrical power generation who have also seen the tapes and witnessed live demonstrations.
First of all, there has been some considerable speculation as to the origins of the ?TPU? technology and who actually owns it. It was conceived and developed by Steven Mark and is owned by Universal Energy Corporation and has been legally owned by that company since 1992. I have personally seen the various contracts and summary evidence myself to conclude that the ?TPU? technology is owned by Universal Energy Corporation. I have heard that someone named Brian Collins in Australia has claimed that he invented the technology and has used some of the videotapes to gather sums of money from would be investors. This activity is criminal and Brian Collins did not invent the technology and does not own it or have the right to sell any part of it in any way. Additionally, there have been others that have found a way to ?Cash In? by using the videotapes and claiming they own or represent the technology in some way. This is all very unfortunate because the ?TPU? is a real power source and deserves to be developed by legitimate means. These people in Australia and other places have taken advantage of, and grievously injured the inventor (Steven Mark) and legal owners (UEC) of the ?TPU?.
The second point of criticism is that the ?TPU? is a fake and doesn?t really work. I have received the input of a variety of engineers and technical people. Most relevant is the feedback from two highly qualified individuals. The first of these is Chris Campbell, an experienced Radio Engineer from California, and the second is Roland Shinzinger, a well known authority on power systems, and a Professor Emeritus of Engineering, (UCI).
Mr. Campbell was selected by myself because of his well known expertise in radio and microwave transmission devises. Mr. Campbell was asked to be as skeptical and critical as possible regarding potential ways that these effects might be faked. Dr. Schinzinger was hired by an outside firm and presumably given similar instructions to examine the device for possible fraud or trickery.
Mr. Campbell made it very clear that it was virtually impossible to transmit the necessary energy via radio or electromagnetic means of a magnitude necessary to light all the light bulbs seen lit in the demonstrations. This is especially true because of the inventor?s willingness to drive around town and perform the demonstration anyplace desired.
Neither Campbell nor Dr. Schinzinger, nor any of the other technical personal have been able to find any evidence of fraud or trickery. Nor have they been able to offer a plausible explanation of how the device actually functions.
The ?TPU? units apparently heat up to a potentially dangerous level after a considerable period of time, and must be shut off at that point. This makes some people suspicious of a battery that is being depleted and which must be recharged after a few minutes. However, after having cooled down, the inventor has always managed to start the unit up again and light the lamps again for the same amount of time as before, until the unit heats up again, without removing the device from the observers sight to be ?recharged?. This can apparently be done any number of times, such as the cumulative ?ON? time can be extended to at least 30 or 40 minutes. This is several times longer then the theoretical limit of any kind of concealed battery pack that I, the battery experts or electrical engineers have yet been able to discover. I have personally seen this demonstration at least fifty times.
In point of fact, there is in existence a video tape showing a ?TPU? putting out over 1,000 Volts and lighting ten 100 Watt/ 120 volt light bulbs in series for ten minutes. (I have seen this demonstration in person several times). In order to light ten 120 Volt, 100 Watt bulbs for even five minutes, the size and weight of the batteries necessary would need to be quite large. I have discussed this issue with a number of battery experts who have assured me that such a power supply made of batteries would need to weigh somewhere between 25 and 70 pounds or more. When I asked if there is not some way, perhaps using Nickel-Cadmium or Lithium batteries or some other kind of exotic or extremely expensive batteries, to make such a unit that would weigh less than 20 pounds, they have frequently laughed at the absurdity of the suggestion, insisting that I am asking the impossible. One battery expert told me that by using some kind of extraordinarily expensive new military spec Lithium batteries that he has heard of (but never seen), it might be possible to get closer to a figure of 20 pounds, but that he knew of no battery in existence that would actually power ten 120 volt, 100 watt bulbs for even five minutes that could possibly weigh under 20 pounds. Since the total weight of the larger ?TPU? unit in the demonstration is only about 6 lbs., it seems impossible to do this even if the entire weight of the device consisted only of batteries. The bottom line is; the ?TPU? ain?t a battery.
I understand that an Engineer, Michael Fennell, has written a paper comparing the small ?TPU? in W-Hr / Kg to all the various battery types currently available. In this paper the ?TPU? has an energy storage advantage over the best (Lithium-iron Disulfide) battery of almost three to one!
So, even if the ?TPU? were nothing more then a battery, it must be some new kind of fantastic battery. Therefore, in itself very valuable, regardless.
As a final word, I must say that ?I saw what I saw?. As unbelievable to me as it is. From all I can see, and from all the things the various Engineers and technical experts that have witnessed in the video tapes and live demonstrations, so far the device appears to be most genuine.
David Doleshal PhD.
800-920-4292
PO BOX 5165
Balboa Island, CA.
92662
Roland Schinzinger
Ph.D.
29 Gilman St. Irvine, CA 92715-2703, Phone & FAX: (714) 786-7691
Dear Stephen,
Thank you for your kind words of sympathy regarding my loss. We both share similar feelings.
In your letter you asked my opinion: I think it is a miracle that your device works. Exactly how it converts energy is elusive to both of us at this time. That does not mean we shouldn't apply ourselves to know for sure. My offer to work with you still stands. I understand your difficulties with the gentlemen you work for and I will not take your decision personally. I will be glad to talk to you and help you all I can. My offer to work on the project was made with the greatest respect and not as some kind of justification to the Foremost Corporation. I told them that from what I could see of your units they did supply substantial amounts of both voltage and current. I told them I could not give any indication of the value of the discovery without knowing more about it. I did recommend that they invest necessary funds to continue working on the discovery and that I was interested in working with you. That is about all I said to them on the subject. Anything you may have heard to the contrary is not true.
To further our discussion, the reason you can not use small transformers within or at close proximity to your unit is because of the leakage fields of magnetic flux. They induce currents into nearby circuitry and most likely cause frequency changes in the operating point of the control unit. Remember when you inject even a small frequency component into sensitive frequency dependant equipment you can have a disaster. That is exactly what I believe is occurring when you try to use a transformer close to your units. There will be all kinds of harmonics present within this field extending past the radio frequency range. If I were to compare the two I would say that toroidal transformers would be more susceptible. This may be contrary to common thought. Toroidal transformers have all their flux aligned with the grain of the steel used in them. This is the reason for their reduced size as compared with E I cores. When operated at higher flux density you can permit a smaller core. Toroids will always saturate quickly, however, E I transformers ramp up to saturation levels slowly. If anything, I would suggest you work with E I rather then Toroids. In either case I believe you will find that you will have to place the inverter well outside the collector coils.
You may also leave a message for me at my office at the University of California Irvine.
Sincerely,
Roland
RESUME ROLAND SCHINZINGER
Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering (UCI)
Professor Emeritus of Electrical Engineering (UCI)
PhD, Univ. California, Berkeley 1966
MS, ? 1954
BS, ? 1953
Westinghouse Design School / U. of Pittsburgh 1955
Apprenticeship (Technikum), Bosch Co. 1947
High School (Doitsu Gakuin, Tokyo, Abitur) 1945
Academic Appointments:
(UCI) Associate Dean 1979-83, 1985-86
(UCB)Teaching Fellow 1963-65
Robert College Istanbul Turkey:
Associate Professor 1962-63
Associate Professor 1958-62
University of California, energ. & Mgt. (Grad Program) 1991-92
California State Polytechnic University 1978-80
University of Santa Maria, Brazil 1993
University of Kariruhe, Germany-
Power and High Voltage Institute 1986
University of Manchester Inst. Of Science and Tech.-
And Imperial College, London: 1972-73
Honors:
Fellow, Institute of Electrical and Electronics Eng.,(IEEE)
Fellow, Institute for the Advancement of Engineering
Award for Contributions to Professionalism (IEEE)
1983 Centennial Medal (IEEE)
Science Faculty Fellow (Natl. Sc. Foundation) 1964-65
Sangamo Prize Fellowship (Sangamo Electric) 1953
Honor Societies HKN, TBN, Sigma xi
Listed in ?Who?s Who, Am. Men & Women in Science and Engineering
Publications:
Over 70 technical papers, plus numerous reports and commentaries.
Also four books: Ethics in Engineering McGraw-Hill
Conformal Mapping P.A.Laura
Emergencies in Water Delivery Davis Pub.
Electrical Laboratory SIMA Ltd.
This does not satisfy everybody ..there are times when I tear my remaining hair out ...but the are time of clarity and i urge you to discover this part of yourself .. It is important to you for many things and vital for this.
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Recitation:(Keelynet) Room Temp Superconductor/Negative Resistor ?
From.DMBOSS1021
Date:Mon,31 Jul 2000
Hi Folks:
Found this patent claiming a process for fabricating a room temperature
superconductor,that also seems to become a negative resistor,gaining
or collecting energy in one mode of it`s use !
http://www.patents.ibm.com/details? &pn=US04325795__
"Process for forming ambient temperature superconducting filaments "
"Bourgoin,Ronald C."
"Abstract:
This invention is a process for forming electrical conductors in the form
of filaments which exhibit properties of electrical superconductivity at ambient
or normal room temperature.The process includes the preparation of a molten
mixture of conducting and insulator materials,the introduction of the nearly
homogeneous mixture between electrodes across which a voltage is applied causing fine filaments to be formed having a diameter within the range of
10 to 1.000 A.The filaments thus formed give almost no resistance to the passage of the electricity therethrough at room temperature thus effectively
forming an ambient temperature superconductor."
This patent describes the theory,and investigative journey that led to this
discovery,from others work. And also describes how the material is made,
and the subsequent tests.
It is using an anomalous property of Bismuth,when formed in a very thin
filament,and being formed in a molten state,under the influence of a high
electric field applied to the ends of the filaments as it cools/crystalizes.
It describes a simple apparatus to do this.and to make an array of these
filaments,encased in an insulating matrix so that the overall power of the
composite superconducting "cable" is quite high.
Apparently in tests,it was found that the overall circuit resistance of a sample
of the filament array,connected to normal leads,was actually less than
the resistance of the leads by themselves,demonstrating a negative resistance-
or extra energy input by the filament structure !
......
Sincerely,
DMBoss1021
-Recitation end.!
Probably a little more "light" !
Sincerly
de Lanca
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...The inventor that is Steven, has an agreement with UEC that prevents him from going into too much detail.It is a fine line for him .
...First of all, there has been some considerable speculation as to the origins of the ?TPU? technology and who actually owns it. It was conceived and developed by Steven Mark and is owned by Universal Energy Corporation and has been legally owned by that company since 1992. I have personally seen the various contracts and summary evidence myself to conclude that the ?TPU? technology is owned by Universal Energy Corporation.
I have written to UEC to ask them for the patent number and when they will bring the device forward.
I will make another post when (or if) I get an answer. Here is the content of the questions:
I understand that your company has the TPU (Toroidal Power Unit) invented by Steven Marks. Are you going to release patent information on this device and introduce it for market soon?
Liberty
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Mannix - it is your attitude, and your name-calling that wastes time.
Considering the time that this has been floating around... it's perfectly acceptable, logical, and polite to question the reality of the situation. Why do you have to react like I called Steven or his device a fraud?
Assuming the letter posted from Michael Fennell (in 1997) is 100% accurate - then there is (or was) a working device. But that still doesn't take away from the validity of my complaint. The implications of such a device are greater than patents and NDAs... especially after this amount of time.
The letter from Roland Schinzinger (above) iindicates that Steven has no idea how the device works. Maybe that is the problem. If that is the case, it *might* indicate the true motive for involving others while closely guarding the actual cricuit design.
It's my opinion that this is too damned important for anyone to be worried about future profit.
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Mr.Steven Mark invented a superconductive amplifier,
a MEG with a superconductive coil,
not more-but also-not less !
I am only interested in the coil manufactoring process,
the rest:08/15 procedere !
Adolf Zielinski"superconductive amplifier"-level:input 1KW-output 1000KW,
recitating his published(real?)numbers !
Sincerely
de Lanca
p.s.: I am not from the toroid(-al) party,I am EI-user !
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Superconductive??? He uses standard copper wire.....
Rich
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The only "patent claims",and this is the barrier, are coil related- not for a "TPU"-concept !
S
dL
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One of his first units used bailing wire and a magnet on top. Kind of like picture hanging wire.
I think the device is much less technical than most of us are making it out to be. He found it through experimentation, using common everyday materials along with high tech lab equipment (probably an O-scope) and some electronics. We can too, if it is the real deal. The best unit to study is the one where it is not all taped up. It shows copper windings on the lower half. Dual windings I think. One for each bulb circuit. It also has two magnets near the upper ring on opposite sides.
In that film, Steven said that it was just the special interaction of the coils. "Coils are very important". I think that there is also a capacitor that is black in color mounted near the center of the device. The picture does not allow a clear view of how it is wired. But due to the nature of the device, it must use some sort of feed back loop to continue the oscillation at about 5khz.
In later devices, it appears that under the tape, that the two magnets are on one side of the upper ring and the magnets are together, probably in attract...
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I have looked at other similar devices that have used iron wire in a coil around a magnet and zinc as the voltage receptor. Something about iron wire seems to yield some interesting results. Perhaps the iron wire should be used from magnet to magnet to set up the frequency?
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You can often get the same effect with the use of other elements,quantity depending !
The published phaenomen is like a "superconductor",and I as also the worldwide
scientists are theretime in search of a "superconductivity"-matrix !
S
dL
p.s.:If iron as coil would be so important,this invention is in a really low level:
Marcel Meredieux,FR, invented an induction amplifier without magnets !
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This is a similar device that must operate in a similar fashion. Take a look at it, perhaps it will help?
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This is a similar device that must operate in a similar fashion. Take a look at it, perhaps it will help?
After looking at the pdf file of the aerial generator, notice the iron wire is coiled around the horseshoe magnets... It is also uninsulated wire. Could this be the type of coil arrangement used in Steven Marks device??? The very important relationship of the coils? Maybe he is still using that bailing wire!
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A first question:when the Dragan Kovac,WO2004100349,invention is true-
what is the value of all"overunity-demonstrations"?!
"The invention relates to an infinite utilization of energy,achieved by the series connection of single resistors(for example lamps/bulbs).
Mr.Mannix also describes the use of "seriell connection" !
Kovac seriell connection invention:as example"Ten bulbs a 200W consumes:58W",
so 10 bulbs a 100w will consume:???
Second question/statement:Professor Kanarev describes the use of measuring tools,like oszilloscope/oszillograph and multimeter,different results but both right !
Paradox,yeah!
Sincerely
de Lanca
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This device is no what apears to be. It's a S.E.A.R.L. disc Inside. I have one and works, like a generator. It vibrate because of cilindrical rotation magnets inside. It produces DC voltage high amperage current. I have to turn it off when no current is draw from it, the start to demonstrate some acomulative effects of ether energy.
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And what is next?
A jet engine inside running on kerozine?
Edit:
Sorry about my stingy remark Razor, but I don't think it is a Searl type device.
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I have concluded that Steven was justified in expressing disapointment in our inability to follow up the clues he had provided in one of his letters to Lindsay. Most of the discussion has been about how does it work rather than where does the energy come from and although Steven did not say we should pay particular attention to the videos they have become a focus for speculation about the energy coil's construction. Earl says the world is hurtling towards chaos and we don't have time for lengthy theoretical discussions. He could be right about time running out because this is something that is sixty years overdue but there is no shortcut that can eliminate the need for good theoretical understanding. Once you know where the energy comes from and how the device interacts with the environment then the details of construction will become obvious. You may even find an engineering paper that has an experimental setup that illustrates the phenomenon and which you could use as a basis for design.
The essence of what Steven has been telling us about where does the energy come from is that the electrical transients from switching receive energy from the Earth's magnetic field. I remain sceptical about this hypothesis but I believe that it deserves serious attention because one of Steven's associates is a scientist and the device could be utilyzing something really simple that people have overlooked till now. All I had to do to confirm the reality of the phenomenon was key the following into Google 'electrical' 'transients' 'earth's' 'magnetic' 'field'. This brought up a large number of articles for the layman that reveal that magnetic storms do indeed create electrical transients and that the Earth's magnetic field does store energy. I also found out what Steven was getting at when he told us to consider what causes the EM pulse from a nuclear explosion, but I don't suppose anyone would be interested in discussing the subject.
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Freedomfuel - the atmosphere does store energy the same as a capacitor. We see this everytime we see a lightning storm. The concentration and/or discharge of energy is due to ionized particles creating a path for this energy.
After noticing the 'surge' on a DC line when the switch was thrown... Tesla's experiments led to the spark-gap tesla-coil. Yes - he used power from a generator... and capacitor-banks to store the high-voltage input for his coil... but the 'special' thing about it was that by discharging that energy across a gap and DISRUPTING the discharge... he was able to free something that may be best described as pure potential. But whatever we call it... it was ionization or at least whatever precursor causes that.
His experiments show that this potential could be increased 10,000 times per foot of his conical coil.
Do you think this device operates like that? Is it possible that the magnets interaction with the device creates this ionization on a smaller scale and steps it up?
There is no doubt that if nature can produce lightning out of the atmosphere, then we should be able to reproduce that on a smaller scale. And if this device actually works... then odds are that's the only way it could work.
If the magnet placed on the outside induced enough current to start oscillation in an LC circuit - then it must be set up to use that oscillation to resonate with another coil and/or circuit... and the two (or more) of them compliment each other with more and more energy.
This is the only way - since the original magnet is not moving. Unless the coils in the device are moving.
If the device stops when the magnet is removed... this *could* point to resonance - since the removal of the magnet would change the resonance of the circuit it was interacting with.
As for the controller circuit... this must be a major part of the secret. What do you think it does?
OH! You know... it is possible that a small amount of energy is stored in a capacitor before it even begins running. Nothing observed by anyone can preclude that... and I'm not sure if Steven's ever answered that.
And for Mannix... even if a cap were charged ahead of time, there's nothing wrong with that... so don't call me a 'yapping terrier of doubt'... you 'lapdog of gullibility' ;)
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"electrical transients from switching receive energy from the Earth's magnetic field"
Perhaps, but that will not cause a constant dynamic 5khz AC output. It would be more like a static electric discharge (which are one time events and not dynamic and continuous). I think that it is interesting to think about, but probably not the source of the power that we seek to tap.
Steven already said that the device uses the earth's magnetic field for the energy source and that the device which he made is only a conversion device. So the next logical thing to do is to understand the method of conversion.
I think the patent that I posted earlier of the aerial generator gives valuable information on how to achieve this power conversion from the earth's magnetic field, using magnets and iron wire coils. Perhaps Steven read the same patent and used the understanding from the aerial generator to create his own TPU device using bailing wire on his first device? The patent is from 1913, so there are no secrets to withhold the information. The aerial generator was designed well before the TPU existed. The TPU appears to be a better conversion device with higher power output levels. I wonder if Steven used copper windings instead of zinc plate to act as the collector of the 5khz AC power? (This may have the advantage of a higher voltage output?)
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All in all, a very good discussion we have here, thanks to all who have participated.
One thing I'd like to add is that no one yet has discussed the permanent magnets used in
the device and their importance. I?ve noticed that the PM?s (permanent magnets) used in
All but the first device are disc shaped. Poles assumed to be on the large faces of the PM?s. These can especially be seen in the videos with investors, he has some gold plated ones in his hand that he keeps pulling in and out of his jacket pocket. In the device he shows on the cardboard box in his garage (2nd device?, transparent) he uses 2 PM?s and notes the strategic placement of them. I believe the PM?s are the INPUT and OUTPUT of the device. One PM acts as the gateway/portal/receiver to the aether and the other PM acts as the outlet/exhaust.
Myself personally, I have what I believe to be a good understanding of PM?s but not electronics. I understand basic electricity and basic thermodynamics well also. But, when it comes to advanced electricity and electronics, I?m lost. There seems to be many here that understand my deficiencies well.
In regards to PM?s lets look at what a PM wants to do.
It would seem that their sole purpose/desire is to circulate flux efficiently. Whether it be North to South Pole, or South to North (many have debated) its purpose would seem to be to act as a conduit or super highway of flux. The question is what flux? Its own flux or flux from the aether? I tend to believe (just recently) that the earth is its self is acting a large magnet, in regards to aether flux, pulling it in one pole and circulating to the other.
Why is ferrous metal attracted to a PM? The ferrous metal acts as a conduit of flux that provides a better path back to the return pole of the PM than does ambient atmosphere.
So by pulling the ferrous metal to it, it can more efficiently circulate its flux. In return, one could theorize that ferrous metal itself, acts as a weak PM of sorts? (Flux willingly jumps in one and exits out the other) The difference I believe is the ability of the PM to kick start the process or attract a large enough density of flux in one area to begin the circulation.
What happens to aether flux once it enters SM?s device and before it exits is the mystery to me. I would assume that the coils and circuits, ect., act as the harnessing/amplifier that processes the AF (aether flux). Maybe it starts with a basic magnetic generator principle, and is amplified. Or, maybe what happens in between the PM?s, causes an enormous vacuum of sorts (void/black hole) that draws in the AF like a cyclone?
Just some thoughts that popped in my head after reading through this thread.
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I have just seen the new Steve Mark video and I am reminded of the quotation by Arthur C Clark to the effect that every new technology if sufficiently advanced has the appearance of magic. Notable is the lack of visible magnets and the pulse generator for the coil is so small that it is only visible as a bulge on the inside of the coil. In this video, as in the previous one, Steven denies that there is a battery within the coil assembly, but I think that he is being economical with the truth here. It could be that the coil needs kick starting with a moving magnet like the TH Moray device but I noticed that Steven actuated a switch on the coil just before demonstrating it. This does not detract from the value of his achievment because obviosly two penlight batteries could not run a Black and Decker. The luxury villa where the video was made is more likely to belong to the wealthy philanthropist who supported Steven.
According to steven's own words the device functions much like a electromagnetic generator since there is a powerful rotating magnetic field in the coil whose lines of flux are perpendicular to the turns of a secondary coil from which pulsed DC is outputed. The difference is that there is a virtual magnet rotating and this must be supplied with a source of magnetism from the environment. The big secret they have been keeping for sixty years is this: most of the energy that the Earth receives from the sun is in the form of magnetism since this is all that photons and quanta really are according to Bibhas De. The truth of this is revealed in NASA photographs of orbiting satellites which show twice as much illumination coming from the Earth as comes from the sun. The ionosphere acts as a vast solar energy collector which traps solar photons which, when at rest, exist as magnetic particles in the form of spinning magnetic torii. This is obviously at varience with current scientific theories so it has not been difficult to keep this a secret. The involvement of the geomagnetic field is uncertain but I believe that secondary geomagnetic poles are vortices that suck this solar magnetic energy into the interior of the Earth which is heated magnetically and not by nuclear fission as science teaches. The energy coil pumps the ionosphere with it's own magnetic vortex in the same way and a stream of magnetic photon particles are drawn down to energise it's coil. This magnetic current through the air is sometimes visible with the Adams motor, for instance, as a glow around the device visible in the dark.
I know that this will not convince you ether fans but study the Bibhas De website and this site www.magneticenergy.co.uk. Big Brother has tried to silence both these sources. As William Lyne says 'if it ain't true then why suppress it?'
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I Like the Video. Seen other similar videos but it is still frustrating that not a lot of technical data
released as yet...
I would like to add if Steve is producing a rotating magnetic field then perhaps it is travelling fast enough
to create a minute amount of moving mass within the toroid.
( mass = E/(c^2) etc...)
Excuse the lack of physics references here but isn't an electric field a by product when you 'create mass' in this way?
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Stefan,
What is the metal of the torroidal ring made of? Is it ordinary steel, or a heavy magnet? I didn't understand this. Also I notice the smaller units, like the one running the TV in the video, appears to be only a simple torroidal ring with some amount of wire wrapped around it, but the larger unit running the 10 light bulbs has some extra devices like capacitors and other items inside the ring. Why the difference?
Thanks,
Dean
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Dare we think out of the box?
What if,....
It is not the Earths magneticfield what is powering Steven's TPU?
It is just a smart synergistic effect not looked at much before?
The stopping when turned upside down is caused by a mercury switch to conseal Steven's secret?
The TPU works in a way it should not do so according to science?
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Tink, you may be right. I have another friend familiar with electronics, etc, and he says the unit has to be a hoax...it cannot work. So I dunno! It seems too good to be true, and usually if something seems to good to be true, it usually is! I guess I'm just "hoping" it's for real!
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Please read about the Wingate A. Lambertson WIN cell development
www.rexresearch.com/lambrtsn/lambrtsn.htm
www.keelynet.com/energy/win.htm
about their own speculations:"it is- this-the source; no,it is- that-the source;..." and the structural changes(with and without use of ....).
The question/answer about "right measuring" of FE/OU-sphere-gains,
the different "experiment-results"(965% down to UU-85%) and much more !
He/they invested something more than 20 years(1966- ) of re-/search,
with any remarkable kind of success ?
Sincerely
de Lanca
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I would like to comment on some of the ideas expressed in this thread.
Nrg_revolution in post 87 put forward the idea that the poles of permanent magnets and the poles of the geomagnetic field act as funnels through which ether flows in and out. This is similar to Earl?s ideas about ether being drawn into the device. The idea of ether as a source of energy seems odd to me because Faraday, Maxwell and Tesla all thought of the ether only as a medium through which magnetic and electric fields could produce action at a distance. Tesla, like all 19th century scientists, thought that the stars were the source of all energy although his ideas of what constituted solar energy were unconventional. If this ubiquitous ether could flow in this way it would be omnidirectional but overunity devices like this one need to be orientated correctly in relation to the Earth in order to function. Also the rotating magnetic field they produce needs to rotate in one direction only which suggests that the Coriolis effect is at work here. This is the apparent deflection of a force in a rotating frame of reference, so does this mean that the ether rotates as it enters the device and if so why should it rotate in opposite directions in the north and south hemispheres? Also how is ether translated into the magnetic field created by the device? In my opinion ether theories are unhelpful because you cannot design a technology around something so ineffable.
Liberty in post 53 questioned the idea that electrical transients from switching could receive energy from the Earth? magnetic field. He thinks that such transients would be more like static electrical discharges rather than a continuous train of pulses. One interesting possibility was suggested by Steven when he advised us to consider what happens to cause the EM pulse in nuclear explosions. See this link:
An Introduction To the EMP and Lightning Threat
http://www.blackmagic.com/ses/bruceg/EMC/EMP-Light.html
Electro-magnetic Pulse (EMP) Systems
http://www.tfd.chalmers.se/~valeri/EMP.html
It seems that during a high altitude burst gamma ray photons eject electrons from air molecules which then spread horizontally along the Earth?s magnetic field lines while making a spiralling motion. Such charges accelerating towards a centre of rotation will produce a broad band of radio emissions from 10kHz to 100Mhz known as synchrotron radiation. This is analogous to the production of synchrotron radiation by solar wind protons trapped in the inner Van Allen belt. As these zig zag back and forth along the Earth? magnetic field lines they also make a spiralling motion. Could the Steve Mark device be receiving these radio emissions? It seems a bit unlikely, but we should consider every possibility.
Elvis Oswald in post 108 suggested that the Earth stores energy like a capacitor and that this could account for lightning. There is something called the ?equatorial ring current? in the ionosphere caused by the deflection of solar wind protons by the Earth?s magnetic field and this does create a weak electric field between the Earth and the ionosphere like a capacitor. In my opinion this is not the origin of lightning. If members of this forum could overcome their aversion to scientific literature they could learn about some exciting discoveries about lightning due in the near future. Scientist admit that they do not know what lightning really is because the electric field strength in clouds is insufficient to make a spark 3km long. A clue as to the true nature of lightning is provided by UFOs when their rotating magnet assemblies accelerate before take off. The production of a bang and a flash of light suggests to me that this is the same phenomenon as lightning and that it is primarily a magnetic phenomenon associated with the Earth?s magnetic field. What Elvis may be referring to in Tesla?s capacitor discharge experiments is a precursor to the electric discharge in the form of a luminous channel through the air that conducts electrons. In my opinion such a luminous channel consisting of a magnetic current is formed during a lightning discharge and it can conduct electrons over a greater distance than should be possible by electric force and ionization of air alone. I also believe that the Steve Mark device also creates an invisible channel to the ionosphere through which a magnetic current can flow, though not so abruptly as with lightning. This magnetic current is merely static solar photons trapped in the ionosphere where they exist as magnetic vortices.
Liberty in post 53 put forward the hypothesis that the superimposition of the geomagnetic field on the locally produced field of the coil causes a heterodyne effect whereby the mean of the two frequencies added together results in a lower frequency 60 kHz output. Stefan pointed out the obvious flaw in this argument because the geomagnetic field does not change direction like an alternating current. However, the geomagnetic field does have transverse waves due to the influence of the solar wind on the magnetosphere and the displacement of the field lines does periodically change direction. Here is a quote from this article:
Magnetosphere, Ionosphere, and Atmosphere
http://www.nap.edu/nap-cgi/skimit.cgi?recid=2238&chap=75-99
?In addition to receiving steady electrical currents, the Earth is also bathed in a variety of magnetohydrodynamic waves, or pulsations, produced at much higher altitudes in the magnetosphere?
See also:
James L Green. The Magnetosphere
http://ssdoo.gsfc.nasa.gov/education/lectures/magnetosphere/index.html
ULF waves (geomagnetic pulsations)
http://www.oulu.fi/~spaceweb/textbook/ulf.html
For the Steve Mark device to receive energy from these waves high above the Earth?s surface it would have to act as both a transmitter and receiver in ways I cannot imagine. This is still a possibility worth considering.
Here is my conclusion about how the device does draw energy from the Earth?s magnetic field. 90% of this field is a dipole whose axis is slightly offset from the Earth?s axis of rotation. The other 10% is north and south poles randomly distributed over the Earth?s surface. The existence of these secondary magnetic poles was confirmed by the European Space Agency?s ?Cluster? satellites when they detected micro-vortices in the Earth?s magnetic field.
Micro-vortices in Earth's magnetosphere
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1449
http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=203500&source=r_space
The article ascribed the cause of such vortices to turbulence caused by the impact of the solar wind on the magnetosphere but in my opinion they are an integral part of the geomagnetic field rather than being induced by moving charges. I see these vortices as being funnels through which magnetic current from the ionosphere is channelled into the Earth. It has been observed by several OU researchers, including Bushwacker on this forum, that their devices are location sensitive and this could be due to geomagnetic vortices rather than the proximity of power lines as some have suggested.
OK, that?s enough space physics lessons for today.
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This backward moving light is very interesting !
If you look at the MPEG video:
http://www.rochester.edu/news/photos/backward_light.mpg (http://www.rochester.edu/news/photos/backward_light.mpg)
It can only be explained, that the light pulse already has a faster moving other field with it,
which tunnels already through the medium and is reflected back then.
But the most intersting thing is, that a light pulse is already moving forward behind the medium with the same speed.
This lets us make communication must faster cause you can jump a distance without needing to go through to it
and thus save time !
Imagine having light jump across a distance without delay !
How much faster than light speed is this ?
Also very interesting is, that the backgoing light pulse cancels out the energy
from the incoming light pulse.
Does anybody know, what kinbdof medium are they using for this ?
P.S: It could also be, that the laser they are using has not a pure green light,
but also some other higher speed wavelength , so the other wavelength has already gone
faster through the medium and is just reflected...much easier explanation...
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This device is no what apears to be. It's a S.E.A.R.L. disc Inside. I have one and works, like a generator. It vibrate because of cilindrical rotation magnets inside. It produces DC voltage high amperage current. I have to turn it off when no current is draw from it, the start to demonstrate some acomulative effects of ether energy.
YOU have a searl disc? Give me a break. Where did you get it? Don't tell me, John Searl drove down your street in an ice cream truck handing them out with plans and building instructions eh? How did you manufacture the rollers? In fact, what are the rollers made of? because they are not simple "cylindrical magnets", according to John, they are multi layers of material. If you have a searl disc please, post a video and let us all see it in action. John Searl himself doesn't have one, so how on earth did you get one? If you made one, please, show us all the plans, building materials, and exactly step by step the methods of building one, so the world can finally see this technology in the private sector instead of the grubby mits of the public sector bandits who have kept us from it for so long.
BTW Searl is not an acronym, It's his farking name.
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Hi all,
I found an interesting link possibly relating to Mark Device and extracting energy from atmosphere. Explore all links within article.
http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html
Hope this helps?
tishatang
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Hi all,
I found an interesting link possibly relating to Mark Device and extracting energy from atmosphere. Explore all links within article.
http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html
Hope this helps?
tishatang
hallo tishatang,
that is a nice link and also also this one
http://amasci.com/tesla/tmistk.html
http://amasci.com/tesla/teslabad.html
http://amasci.com/tesla/high_voltage3.html#tcaps
http://amasci.com/tesla/tesla.html
thanks
rensseak
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This was an email I found in my email box some time ago,
but forgot to post it.
Maybe he is really using iron wire for the coils ?
"Hey Stefan,
Steve said he used bailing wire? that?s iron wire. Not sure why in the 21 pages of posts it wasn?t noted that he was using Iron, just not as a core. It may be that he is putting a pulse to a small piece of iron wire to induce a magnetic moment at which point many other pieces of the same wire while isolated are inductively coupled due the lentz kick thus creating a forward avalanche of sorts in magnetic moments. Also I didn?t see how he is powering the input to the device, can you elaborate on that for me? It does look interesting? and the fact all the controller circuitry is within the toroid? seems to allow for the polarity emitted above or below the large external toroid gets to freely interact. Wouldn?t it be kinda like having a large coil with a couple smaller pulsed coils within the larger coil in all instances with only the flux moving beyond the edge? Thus you could invert the magnetic fields with each DC pulse and if done fast enough you would present kind of a scalar interference field that should freely couple to the large coil to let you draw energy off to run a load. Its interesting to see how it interacts with the gravity field. It would be interesting to find out what frequencies he is coupling to produce the effect.
Anyways, just thought I?d shoot a note? good read on that thread?
Gene
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Hartiberlin,
This is an earlier post that is a device that uses iron wire around the magnets.
I thought that it goes with your post very well.
It is downloadable in pdf format. I think you will find it interesting if you missed it.
It is an aerial generator from around 1913 I think. Just shows that you don't need to be a good scientist, just a good rancher. (Ranchers use a lot of iron wire on fence).
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=937.78 (http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=937.78)
Liberty