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### Author Topic: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !  (Read 46703 times)

#### hartiberlin

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2006, 05:17:40 AM »
I rewatched the video again and here are 2 more things I noticed.

1. At: 6:50 minutes Steven switches on the biggest device and says:
Switching on the first frequency and then switching on the second frequency....
So he uses 2 different frequencies !

So it could be really some kind of beating frequency produced by mixing two
carrier frequencies and using the difference frequency for the output....

2. at 25:23 he says
"....this is part of the converter circuit here, which takes the
12 Volts direct current,  5000 cycle output......"

Hmm, this puzzles me, as he did measure the output of the portable coil
device at around 170 Volts DC and not 12 Volts DC !
So what does he mean with this ?

Maybe he just converted a normal 12 Volts DC to 120 Volts AC converter
to accept 170 Volts DC input ?

For what is the relay in it ?

Otherwise, if this would be a fake, he could have hidden a big
12 Volts car battery inside
the inverter and at the input he just measures if there is some
voltage from the device coil ring ( maybe hidden 9 Volts batteries)
and then switches with a relay the internal hidden 12 Volts car battery
to the inverter to produce 120 Volts AC at 3 Amperes , so the output power

But as he also shows the bigger unit with 1 KWatts output, I think it is
genuine and no fake, cause in the bigger 1 KWatts units there are no
big hidden batteries, which could produce so much power....
In the older video the 1 KW unit was sawed into parts and shown, that
there are no hidden batteries...

P.S: One can not see, if he really clamped the clamp meter to the wires
or if he just only used it to use the induction coil from it to show,
how much magnetic "noise" there is inside the unit ?

Also I noticed, that when they went back into the house from the street
there was some more background noise on the videotape...
Was this from any device still working and jamming the videocam ?
« Last Edit: April 15, 2006, 05:28:58 AM by hartiberlin »

#### Nastrand2000

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2006, 06:19:46 AM »
@ tao,

I agree with you, this is dangerous to just give to someone that goes Immediately to the end of the thread, as well as the legal implications ( from their investors to accidental death). One must learn to crawl before they walk.

#### tishatang

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2006, 08:36:58 AM »
Hi all,

I have not seen this latest video.  I have a slow modem.
However, I would like to make a general comment in regards to all of this.

Steven wants us to figure this out, the videos speak for themselves.
If his motives were only to raise capital, he would just show them working, like the airport video.

If that was all we had to go on, it could take years just to get to first base.

But, he goes on in the other videos giving us golden clues.
He shows the use of a magnet to start them up.
He says one runs at 7.37 hertz and the other at 6,000hertz.

I think he is doing the best he can under what is probably is a complicated situation.

I thank him for what he has achieved and shared.

Tishatang

#### Liberty

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2006, 04:51:08 PM »
I think in the movie that Steven said that the device is a conversion device.  It has no batteries.  It uses common things like we use every day.  Fence or bailing wire was used in his first device.  No super conductors.  Magnetic fields and basic electronics - a transformer.  Steven said that the power comes from the earth's magnetic field.  It is obviously a torroid transformer is what he uses to accomplish this.  The coil in order to have electricity induced, must use an alternating magnetic field, but the earth's magnetic field is constant.  So the trick to figure out is:  How do you fluctuate the earth's magnetic field?  For the answer to this, look at my previous post on this thread.

Liberty

#### Liberty

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2006, 05:28:59 PM »
For your convenience, I have restated the explaination here.

I saw a Marks device in one of the movies that was not taped up (concealed), but showed windings on the lower ring and magnets placed on each side of the upper ring.  The magnets did not touch the upper ring but were placed close to it.  I think that the upper ring created a magnetic field at the point of the coil, that is equal to the earth's magnetic field (~.5 gauss).  I think that the locally created magnetic field 'beats together' with the earth's magnetic field at the point of the windings.  (The earth's magnetic field is delayed due to the extra distance traveled in comparison to the local magnet field).  This creates points in time, (where the coil is wound), where the magnetic field is "cancelled" and then reappears.  This is due to the "hetrodyne" effect of the magnetic fields beating together; similar to an AM radio IF section.  The 5khz frequency is created from the pulsing of the magnetic field in the lower ring where the copper windings are at due to the beating together or hetrodyning effect of the earth's magnetic field and the local magnetic field.

We know that in order to induce a voltage in a coil, you must have an increasing magnetic field and/or a collapsing magnetic field.  This must occur in the Steven Marks device in order to convert a magnetic field into electrical power.

The reason power is not generated in a standard coil (the coil being enveloped in the earth's magnetic field), is because the magnetic field of the earth is constant, or at such a high frequency (perhaps ultra violet range) that it is the same as constant, and does not induce a voltage in the coil.  However when a magnetic field is combined with the earth in exactly the proper amount, it may beat together with the earth's magnetic field (effectively lowering the frequency, like an IF section in an AM radio) producing a device similar to Steven Marks' device.  The heating problem that Steven Marks had must have been eddy currents in the solid metal that he used for the ring.  If it was lamenated or used Magnetite, I think it would work very nicely without the heat up.

Just my take on the device, and how I think it operates, for what it's worth.

Liberty
« Last Edit: April 15, 2006, 06:17:40 PM by liberty »

#### hartiberlin

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2006, 08:22:48 PM »
But the earth magnet field is a steady "DC" field.
No "AC" field....so how should it then oscillate ?

#### hartiberlin

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2006, 08:26:30 PM »
Hi Kosh,
I thinkin the big 1 Kwatts unit Steven has 2 oscillators that are powered by small
batteries and that these generate the used 2 primary frequencies, but these then
interact and generate the huge output, this I guess, cause he just switches on the big unit
with an electric switch...

#### Liberty

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2006, 08:49:52 PM »
I looked at the latest video and noticed on the TV that the channel Steven Marks is watching on one of his tests is in Los Angeles on channel 9 KCAL.  Only California would have marble floors and gates around a property too.  Just thought that was interesting to know where he lives.

#### Liberty

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2006, 09:21:05 PM »
But the earth magnet field is a steady "DC" field.
No "AC" field....so how should it then oscillate ?

I propose to you, that the earth's magnetic field can be cancelled or nullified.  A local magnetic field would  "mask" the earth's magnetic field and effectively lower the frequency through cancellation of most of the magnetic field frequency.  Leaving a roughly 5khz sine wave output such as Steven Marks had on his device.

Or imagine two transmitters.  One in orbit around the earth and the other one is just outside in your same city.  These transmitters are transmitting the same sine wave at a high frequency.  The one that is farther away will lag in time, compared to the one that transmitted just outside of your city.  If you combine these signals, many of the sine waves will cancel out each other due to being out of sync.  Effectively lowering the frequency of the combined sine wave that is received.  The same would happen with a magnetic field.  The magnetic fields would partially cancel each other out and what remains is apparently 5khz to induce the power in the coil as in the Marks device.

If you take two magnets that both repel, in exactly the middle of the two fields there is no magnetic pull one way or the other.  They cancel each other out because the forces are equal.  But if one becomes stronger than the other, you have a "static" or very high frequency magnetic field again.

Liberty

#### hartiberlin

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2006, 09:31:35 PM »
If you have a pulsating  0 to 0.5 Gauss field you could only extract millivolts
in such a small sized 12 inch device but not 360 Watts !

#### Liberty

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2006, 09:49:57 PM »
Perhaps, but can you think of any other way to convert the power from the earth's magnetic field that would induce power in a coil?

#### hartiberlin

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2006, 10:24:23 PM »
I think he is using a kind of vortex effect like in the water in the bathtube is accelerated,
the magnetfield of the earh might be accelerated into a vortex...
then it could probably be more power extracted in a small size and the vortex might
suck in more magnetfield from the earth...

Maybe he also just using the magnets only in his device and
just has found a way to violate Lentz law...

#### Liberty

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2006, 11:12:48 PM »
I think he is using a kind of vortex effect like in the water in the bathtube is accelerated,
the magnetfield of the earh might be accelerated into a vortex...
then it could probably be more power extracted in a small size and the vortex might
suck in more magnetfield from the earth...

Maybe he also just using the magnets only in his device and
just has found a way to violate Lentz law...

If he can create a vortex effect, we should be able to replicate this and do it with magnets that are stronger than the earth's magnetic field?  How do you think a vortex was made with the device that you have seen in the movie?

#### Mannix

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2006, 11:45:47 AM »
Quote
One of the experiments that I have done is to wrap 1 metre  length of wire with a smaller wire ie a long coil with a big wire inside.
when you drive the small wire with low impedance sine wave ...the scope hooked to the big wire  shows something that to me, was unexpected.
I really do not know if this is a clue of not .It was just something that made me think and realise how little i knew.
This is one of many things that I have done .I  do not have a free energy machine.....yet!
Lindsay Mannix

Hi Lindsay,what did it show ?
Could you post a scope shot for analysation ?
Thanks.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2006, 05:52:19 PM by hartiberlin »

#### Walter Hofmann

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##### Re: New Steven Mark video released April 2006 !
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2006, 12:32:59 PM »
Hi stefan,
I have downloaded all the parts of the video also the win rar and unzip them but it will not show, can you help me out what i do wrong?
greetings
walt