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hartiberlin

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Counter EMF cancellation ?
« on: August 23, 2007, 09:04:18 AM »
Hi Butch and Mark,

in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYlrLV0Juwo

you showed, that there is no counter EMF, when you
plugin both magnets when the coils are in series.

The big question is now:

Are both magnets attracted into the coils with this setup ?
As you seem to put in DC current into the coils, surely there is
a current change, when you move just one magnet.

But if in your last configuration both magnets are attracted and
there is no current change ( no counter EMF voltage)
then one can really design overunity motors with this principle.

Please let me know, if both magnets are attracted into the 2 coils
and how the winding configuration and the magnet polarisation
was versus the coils.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: Counter EMF cancellation ?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2007, 09:15:28 AM »

If both magnets are attracted into the coils,
then one can make just the magnets and the coils bigger
and one can easily get an overunity motor from it!

You could NOT build a generator with it, just a motor !


Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

wattsup

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Re: Counter EMF cancellation ?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2007, 02:53:45 PM »
@stefan

Incredible, just yesterday I posted to @mem and had an idea to put two permanent magnet motors and modify the rotor windings to have them in series with each other. Then I had the simpler idea to test this as shown below, then you come up with this video.

I will test this during the weekend as shown in the diagram below with two motors turning and see the voltage and amp draw. I won'T have the generator on there yet but preliminary tests will give me a reason to stop or move forward.

The idea here is  using two 6 volts batteries in series to make 12 vdc. But the series connection is actually the motor windings.

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Re: Counter EMF cancellation ? From Butch
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2007, 08:30:44 PM »
Stefan,
One magnet is in repulsion to it's coil, and the other magnet is in attraction to it's coil.
The two magnets are connected by the wood cross bar and it makes it appear that they are both in attraction. I am talking to Mark today to see if he is in agreement to disclose the drag free generator design we have been holding back on for many months.
We have tested it and have video, drawings and animations. It needs testing with better test equipmemt though.
Also a bifilar coil as the generator winding is a possibly also.
Also the two spiral equilibrium motor near the bottom of our front web page shows this principle of EMF cancellation.
Thanks Stefan,
Butch
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Re: Counter EMF cancellation ?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2007, 08:39:04 PM »
@Wattsup,
interesting setup ! Please let us know,what you will find.

@Butch,
I see, so the energy output is zero, as one magnet is repelled
and one magnet is attracted.....so it cancels out..
Hmm, so no easy overunity motor with this.

Okay,looking forward to other designs you have been speaking of.
Many thanks for clarification.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Counter EMF cancellation ?
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2007, 08:26:58 PM »
Didnt i spend a couple of years trying to get you guys to try this back around the turn of the century ???

Hope this dosent feature in the patent as i clearly made it public many years ago.

Cant make a gen from it but its sure the key to making a fe gen once you understand it.

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Re: Counter EMF cancellation ?
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2010, 07:48:37 PM »
arent the direction of the windings just phased opposite therefore cancelling eachother out? couldnt you reverse the phase on one of them and combine them which would show you an output?